Re: All Contacts lost +

[Bill Parker]

I do not and have never used any softwares to manage my 8000+ pictures ( most 
of them hires TIFFs) .  I keep two external hard drives with all of them on and 
manipulate and use them when required for jobs.  If anything looks like 
controlling what I do it gets deleted!

Call me a Luddite, but I like to have complete control of where things are.

Bill



> On 3 Jun 2016, at 18:24, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin, I suspect the answer is no. You will still have the iPhotos 
> application resident on your Mac (Go to Finder>Applications>iPhoto) and you 
> will see it there. You can launch it and it will look at your iPhoto library 
> as it was at the time of OSX update AND conversion to Photos. Imported photos 
> SINCE the migration are not backwards-visible in iPhotos but your images as 
> they were at the time of migration are visible in both iPhoto and Photos. All 
> future Imports go to Photos library only.
> 
> Ronni may have some higher level tips but if you have Photos on your Mac, it 
> is implied the OS you have is tailored for this environment so deleting 
> Photos not a good idea.
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> petercr...@westnet.com.au <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 5:46 PM, Kevin Lock <kal...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:kal...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pete,
>> 
>> can I delete Photos and install iPhoto?
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 4:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have come to use Photos without any issues It is reliant upon awareness 
>>> of the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to Photos as if you get 
>>> that wrong you can create a headache to rectify.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why such a 
>>> fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under the hood were 
>>> needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe there are some 
>>> things I can do now that I was not previously able to do with iPhoto.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Pete.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From:
>>> wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>
>>> To:
>>> <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>>> Cc:
>>> 
>>> Sent:
>>> Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: All Contacts lost
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
>>> 
>>> Kev
>>> 
>>> On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:clamsh...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
>>> decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
>>> Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
>>> 
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
>>> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work 
>>> out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update 
>>> will actually do I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - 
>>> that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to 
>>> install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to 
>>> copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're 
>>> on loan from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in 
>>> the late nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Blasphemy! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au <> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Kevin, I suspect the answer is no. You will still have the iPhotos 
application resident on your Mac (Go to Finder>Applications>iPhoto) and you 
will see it there. You can launch it and it will look at your iPhoto library as 
it was at the time of OSX update AND conversion to Photos. Imported photos 
SINCE the migration are not backwards-visible in iPhotos but your images as 
they were at the time of migration are visible in both iPhoto and Photos. All 
future Imports go to Photos library only.

Ronni may have some higher level tips but if you have Photos on your Mac, it is 
implied the OS you have is tailored for this environment so deleting Photos not 
a good idea.


Peter Crisp
petercr...@westnet.com.au



> On 3 Jun 2016, at 5:46 PM, Kevin Lock <kal...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Pete,
> 
> can I delete Photos and install iPhoto?
> 
> Kev
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 4:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I have come to use Photos without any issues It is reliant upon awareness of 
>> the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to Photos as if you get 
>> that wrong you can create a headache to rectify.
>> 
>>  
>> Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why such a 
>> fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under the hood were 
>> needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe there are some things 
>> I can do now that I was not previously able to do with iPhoto.
>> 
>>  
>> I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.
>> 
>>  
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>
>> To:
>> <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: All Contacts lost
>> 
>> 
>> I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
>> On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:clamsh...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
>> decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
>> Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
>> 
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
>> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work 
>> out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update 
>> will actually do I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - 
>> that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to 
>> install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to 
>> copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're 
>> on loan from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in 
>> the late nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Blasphemy! 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au <> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Getting worse!
>> 
>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>> 
>> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> This is weird.
>> 
>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>> Con

Re: All Contacts lost

[Kevin Lock]

Pete,

can I delete Photos and install iPhoto?

Kev


> On 3 Jun 2016, at 4:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> I have come to use Photos without any issues It is reliant upon awareness of 
> the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to Photos as if you get that 
> wrong you can create a headache to rectify.
> 
>  
> Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why such a 
> fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under the hood were 
> needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe there are some things 
> I can do now that I was not previously able to do with iPhoto.
> 
>  
> I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.
> 
>  
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: All Contacts lost
> 
> 
> I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
> 
> Kev
> 
> On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:clamsh...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
> decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
> Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work 
> out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update 
> will actually do I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - that's 
> the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to install. 
> iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to copy onto 
> my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're on loan 
> from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late 
> nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
> Blasphemy! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au <> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Getting worse!
> 
> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
> 
> Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> This is weird.
> 
> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
> Contacts are there!
> 
>  Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok Bill,
> 
> You said you have Time Machine Backups
> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
> 
> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
> 
> This folder needs to be restored:
> 
> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
> 
> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
> and selecting
>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
> 
> Enter Time Machine 
> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the Address 
> Book content from a Time Machine backup
> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
> 
> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
> contacts listed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
> <ma

Re: All Contacts lost

[petercrisp]

I have come to use Photos without any issues. It is reliant upon
awareness of the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to
Photos as if you get that wrong you can create a headache to rectify. 

 

Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why
such a fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under
the hood were needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe
there are some things I can do now that I was not previously able to
do with iPhoto.

 

I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.

 

Pete 

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
Subject:Re: All Contacts lost

 I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
 Kev  
 On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au [1] wrote: 
 Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it,
but I decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even
farther back.) Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just
change for change’s sake.
 Pat 

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more
insidiously insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to
iOS but can't work out a safe way of finding out before I download and
install what the update will actually do. I feel as if the update has
already been downloaded - that's the inference I draw from messages
telling me the update is ready to install. iTunes has run rampant
through my music and CDs I had the right to copy onto my laptop seem
to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're on loan from Apple.
Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late
nineties and early 2000's come to the fore

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:

  Blasphemy!  

ROD BLITVICH  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 GOOD IDEAS 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  Windows is starting to look strangely attractive

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Getting worse!
 Now Contacts has “self restored”. 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote: 
 Ronni,
 This is weird.
 I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in
TIme Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where
you suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address
Book nor Contacts are there! 
  Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Ok Bill,
 You said you have Time Machine Backups Quit all applications, or at
least - QUIT MAIL AND CONTACTS.  
  If you need to _RESTORE FROM TIME MACHINE BACKUP_: 
 This folder needs to be restored: 
 ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook 
 Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the
OPTION key and selecting    GO ▹ LIBRARY from the
Finder menu bar.   Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated  
  ENTER TIME MACHINE  Then Go to ~/Library/Application
Support/AddressBook and Restore the ADDRESS BOOK content from a Time
Machine backup Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder
from the backup and overwrite the contents of this folder on your
system drive. 
 Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see
your contacts listed. 
   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 

   On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote: 
Ronni,

 Thanks, 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact
I put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they
usually come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several
regulars missing) 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote: 
 Hi Bill, 
 I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through
to the list. Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was
down which did come to the list... But my original reply message has
not?? Go figure :) So I've copied my reply message to you below: --- 
 Hi Bill, 
 IF YOU ARE USING ICLOUD: 
 Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and
Contacts is Selected. Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it. 
 IF YOU ARE NOT USING ICLOUD.  
 Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click
Contacts Card: "Open Button”.  All cards previously in your Address
Book should recover.  
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Hi Wamuggers,

I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I
typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found
nothing.  All my contacts gone.

I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the
conta

Re: All Contacts lost

[Marlene Oostryck]

Hi Neil and others,

I couldn’t agree more.
I have just upgraded from Snow Leopard to El Capitan.
I had 39,000 photos in iPhoto and I knew where to find every one.
Now I am saving to Photos - I can’t find anything.
I will sign any petition to bring back SL!!!

Regards

Marlene Oostryck

> On 3 Jun 2016, at 2:46 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> HeHe,
> 
> Maybe we need a campaign to bring back Snow Leopard ;o)
> 
> Best OSX ever IMHO.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 3/6/16 13:48, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
> 
>> I agree with that Kevin.
>> Can’t even do batch changes any more and I find that a real pain !
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Kevin Lock  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
>>> 
>>> Kev
>>> 
>>> On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>>> 
 Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
 decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
 Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
 
 Pat
 
 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't 
> work out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the 
> update will actually do. I feel as if the update has already been 
> downloaded - that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the 
> update is ready to install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and 
> CDs I had the right to copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed 
> into iTunes, as if they're on loan from Apple. Memories, real or 
> imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late nineties and early 2000's 
> come to the fore
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
>> Blasphemy! 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>>> 
 Getting worse!
 
 Now Contacts has “self restored”.
 
 Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> This is weird.
> 
> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
> Contacts are there!
> 
>  Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Ok Bill,
> 
> You said you have Time Machine Backups
> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
> 
> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
> 
> This folder needs to be restored:
> 
> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
> 
> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
> and selecting
>  Go ? Library from the Finder menu bar. 
> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
> 
> Enter Time Machine 
> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the Address 
> Book content from a Time Machine backup
> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
> 
> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
> contacts listed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put in 
> this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come up but 
> that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
> 
> Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the 
> list.
> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did come 
> to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
> So I've copied 

Re: All Contacts lost

[petercrisp]

I have come to use Photos without any issues. It is reliant upon
awareness of the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to
Photos as if you get that wrong you can create a headache to rectify. 

 

Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why
such a fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under
the hood were needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe
there are some things I can do now that I was not previously able to
do with iPhoto.

 

I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.

 

Pete

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
Subject:Re: All Contacts lost

 I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
 Kev  
 On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au [1] wrote: 
 Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it,
but I decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even
farther back.) Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just
change for change’s sake.
 Pat 

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more
insidiously insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to
iOS but can't work out a safe way of finding out before I download and
install what the update will actually do. I feel as if the update has
already been downloaded - that's the inference I draw from messages
telling me the update is ready to install. iTunes has run rampant
through my music and CDs I had the right to copy onto my laptop seem
to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're on loan from Apple
Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late
nineties and early 2000's come to the fore

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:

  Blasphemy!  

ROD BLITVICH  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 GOOD IDEAS 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  Windows is starting to look strangely attractive

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Getting worse!
 Now Contacts has “self restored”. 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote: 
 Ronni,
 This is weird.
 I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in
TIme Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where
you suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address
Book nor Contacts are there! 
  Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Ok Bill,
 You said you have Time Machine Backups Quit all applications, or at
least - QUIT MAIL AND CONTACTS.  
  If you need to _RESTORE FROM TIME MACHINE BACKUP_: 
 This folder needs to be restored: 
 ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook 
 Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the
OPTION key and selecting    GO ▹ LIBRARY from the
Finder menu bar.   Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated  
  ENTER TIME MACHINE  Then Go to ~/Library/Application
Support/AddressBook and Restore the ADDRESS BOOK content from a Time
Machine backup Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder
from the backup and overwrite the contents of this folder on your
system drive. 
 Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see
your contacts listed. 
   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 

   On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote: 
Ronni,

 Thanks, 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact
I put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they
usually come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several
regulars missing) 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote: 
 Hi Bill, 
 I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through
to the list. Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was
down which did come to the list... But my original reply message has
not?? Go figure :) So I've copied my reply message to you below: --- 
 Hi Bill, 
 IF YOU ARE USING ICLOUD: 
 Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and
Contacts is Selected. Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it. 
 IF YOU ARE NOT USING ICLOUD.  
 Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click
Contacts Card: "Open Button”.  All cards previously in your Address
Book should recover.  
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Hi Wamuggers,

I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I
typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found
nothing.  All my contacts gone.

I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the
conta

Re: All Contacts lost

[Neil Houghton]

HeHe,

Maybe we need a campaign to bring back Snow Leopard ;o)

Best OSX ever IMHO.


Cheers


Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com





on 3/6/16 13:48, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

> I agree with that Kevin.
> Can’t even do batch changes any more and I find that a real pain !
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Kevin Lock  wrote:
>> 
>> I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
>> On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> 
>>> Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I
>>> decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.)
>>> Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
>>> 
>>> Pat
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins 
 wrote:
 
 I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously
 insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work
 out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update
 will actually do. I feel as if the update has already been downloaded -
 that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to
 install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to
 copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're
 on loan from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in
 the late nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
 
> Blasphemy! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Getting worse!
>>> 
>>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>>> 
>>> Bill
On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:

Ronni,

This is weird.

I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme
Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you
suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor
Contacts are there!

 Bill
On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:

Ok Bill,

You said you have Time Machine Backups
Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.

If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:

This folder needs to be restored:

~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook

Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key
and selecting
  Go ? Library from the Finder menu bar.
Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated

Enter Time Machine 
Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the Address
Book content from a Time Machine backup
Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and
overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.

Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your
contacts listed.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

El Capitan OS X 10.11.5


On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

Ronni,


Thanks,

Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put in
this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come up
but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)

Bill
On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:

Hi Bill,

I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the
list.
Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did come
to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
So I've copied my reply message to you below:
--- 
Hi Bill,

If you are using iCloud:

Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is
Selected.
Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.

If you are NOT using iCloud.

Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click
Contacts Card: "Open Button”.
All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

Hi Wamuggers,

I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed
the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Stephen Chape]

I agree with that Kevin.
Can’t even do batch changes any more and I find that a real pain !


> On 3 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Kevin Lock  wrote:
> 
> I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
> 
> Kev
> 
> On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
>> decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
>> Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
>> 
>> Pat
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
>>> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work 
>>> out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update 
>>> will actually do. I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - 
>>> that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to 
>>> install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to 
>>> copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're 
>>> on loan from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in 
>>> the late nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Blasphemy! 
 
 
 
 
 Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  Good Ideas 
  0409 681 256  
  rb...@iinet.net.au  
 
 
 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
>> Getting worse!
>> 
>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.
>>> 
>>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>>> Contacts are there!
>>> 
>>>  Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown > wrote:
 
 Ok Bill,
 
 You said you have Time Machine Backups
 Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
 
 If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
 
 This folder needs to be restored:
 
 ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
 
 Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option 
 key and selecting
   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
 Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
 
 Enter Time Machine 
 Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
 Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
 Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup 
 and overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
 
 Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see 
 your contacts listed.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
 
 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I 
> put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they 
> usually come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several 
> regulars missing)
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through 
>> to the list.
>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which 
>> did come to the list... But my original 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Kevin Lock]

I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.

Kev

On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
> decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
> Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
>> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work 
>> out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update 
>> will actually do. I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - 
>> that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to 
>> install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to 
>> copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're 
>> on loan from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in 
>> the late nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>> 
>>> Blasphemy! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
  wrote:
 
 Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
 
> Getting worse!
> 
> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> This is weird.
>> 
>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>> Contacts are there!
>> 
>>  Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok Bill,
>>> 
>>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>>> 
>>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>>> 
>>> This folder needs to be restored:
>>> 
>>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>>> 
>>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option 
>>> key and selecting
>>>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>>> 
>>> Enter Time Machine 
>>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
>>> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
>>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>>> 
>>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>>> contacts listed.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I 
 put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they 
 usually come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several 
 regulars missing)
 
 Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through 
> to the list.
> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which 
> did come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go 
> figure :)
> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
> --- 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If you are using iCloud:
> 
> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and 
> Contacts is Selected.
> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
> 
> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
> 
> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
> 
> Cheers,
> 

Re: All Contacts lost

[clamshell]

Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it, but I 
decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even farther back.) 
Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just change for change’s sake.

Pat


> On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
> insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work 
> out a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update 
> will actually do. I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - 
> that's the inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to 
> install. iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to 
> copy onto my laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're 
> on loan from Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in 
> the late nineties and early 2000's come to the fore
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  > wrote:
> 
>> Blasphemy! 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Getting worse!
 
 Now Contacts has “self restored”.
 
 Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> This is weird.
> 
> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
> Contacts are there!
> 
>  Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok Bill,
>> 
>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>> 
>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>> 
>> This folder needs to be restored:
>> 
>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>> 
>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option 
>> key and selecting
>>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>> 
>> Enter Time Machine 
>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
>> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>> 
>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>> contacts listed.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I 
>>> put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they 
>>> usually come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several 
>>> regulars missing)
>>> 
>>> Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown > wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
 the list.
 Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which 
 did come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go 
 figure :)
 So I've copied my reply message to you below:
 --- 
 Hi Bill,
 
 If you are using iCloud:
 
 Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts 
 is Selected.
 Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
 
 If you are NOT using iCloud. 
 
 Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
 Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
 All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni

Re: All Contacts lost

[Bill Parker]

Ronni,

I went through the select and deselect  in iCloud.  The results:-

If selected I do see my contacts 

If NOT selected I do not see my contacts

I checked again with Time machine - Contacts is not there in the recent back 
ups.

I think the best way might be re-build Contacts with iCloud deselected. (so far 
that works nicely)

I only use iCloud for “Find my Phone”  and “Calendar" anyway.

Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> 
> --- 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If you are using iCloud:
> 
> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
> Selected.
> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
> 
> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
> 
> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed 
>> the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  All my 
>> contacts gone.
>> 
>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
>> entries.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Bill
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Re: All Contacts lost

[Michael Hawkins]

I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work out 
a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update will 
actually do. I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - that's the 
inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to install. 
iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to copy onto my 
laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're on loan from 
Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late 
nineties and early 2000's come to the fore

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> Blasphemy! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Getting worse!
>>> 
>>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>>> 
>>> Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 
 This is weird.
 
 I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
 Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
 suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
 Contacts are there!
 
  Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Ok Bill,
> 
> You said you have Time Machine Backups
> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
> 
> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
> 
> This folder needs to be restored:
> 
> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
> 
> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option 
> key and selecting
>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
> 
> Enter Time Machine 
> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
> 
> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
> contacts listed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I 
>> put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually 
>> come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
>>> the list.
>>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
>>> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
>>> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
>>> --- 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> If you are using iCloud:
>>> 
>>> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts 
>>> is Selected.
>>> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
>>> 
>>> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
>>> 
>>> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
>>> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
>>> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
 
 Hi Wamuggers,
 
 I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
 typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found 
 nothing.  All my contacts gone.
 
 I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the 
 contacts entries.
 
 ?
 
 Bill
> 
> 
> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
> Archives - 
> Guidelines - 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Rod Blitvich]

Blasphemy! 




Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
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> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
>> Getting worse!
>> 
>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.
>>> 
>>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>>> Contacts are there!
>>> 
>>>  Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown > wrote:
 
 Ok Bill,
 
 You said you have Time Machine Backups
 Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
 
 If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
 
 This folder needs to be restored:
 
 ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
 
 Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
 and selecting
   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
 Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
 
 Enter Time Machine 
 Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
 Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
 Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
 overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
 
 Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
 contacts listed.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
 
 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put 
> in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come 
> up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
>> the list.
>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
>> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
>> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
>> --- 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> If you are using iCloud:
>> 
>> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts 
>> is Selected.
>> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
>> 
>> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
>> 
>> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
>> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
>> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>> 
>>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
>>> typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found 
>>> nothing.  All my contacts gone.
>>> 
>>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the 
>>> contacts entries.
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Bill
 
 
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Re: All Contacts lost

[Michael Hawkins]

Windows is starting to look strangely attractive

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Getting worse!
> 
> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> This is weird.
>> 
>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>> Contacts are there!
>> 
>>  Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok Bill,
>>> 
>>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>>> 
>>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>>> 
>>> This folder needs to be restored:
>>> 
>>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>>> 
>>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
>>> and selecting
>>>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>>> 
>>> Enter Time Machine 
>>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
>>> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
>>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>>> 
>>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>>> contacts listed.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put 
 in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come 
 up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
 
 Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
> the list.
> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
> --- 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If you are using iCloud:
> 
> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
> Selected.
> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
> 
> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
> 
> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
>> typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found 
>> nothing.  All my contacts gone.
>> 
>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the 
>> contacts entries.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
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>>> Guidelines - 
>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
>>> 
>> 
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>> 
> 
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> 
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Settings & Unsubscribe - 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Ronni Brown]

Bill - Quit All Applications or at least Apple Mail.app and Contacts.app

> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:08 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I think I have it sorted out.   Looks like the contacts are only in iCloud, 
> so when I delesect iCloud the contacts all disappear.
> 
> The apps are there all right.   BUt see below:
> 
> B
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Ronda Brown > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do you mean you don't and have never had the Address Book.app or 
>> Contacts.app?
>> Or are you in the wrong Library?
>> 
>> You Home Folder Library - NOT the Hard Drive Library
>> The ~ tilde represent your Home User Library which is hidden.
>> 1. In the Finder, choose GO > Go to Folder dialog
>> Copy and paste 
>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
> 
> 
> All I get there is 
> 
> ~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData
> 
>> into that dialog box
>> 
>> Then when it shows - leave the resulting window OPEN
>> Then go to 'Enter Time Machine' in the Menu bar at the top of your desktop
>> Then Select a backup date in the Time Machine backup 
>> Then when Time Machine shows the 'AddressBook' folder window
>> The window will show all the data that the AddressBook folder contains 
>> Underneath you will see two buttons 'Cancel'  and 'Restore'
>> Click Restore.
>> 
>> I'll send you offlist in another email a screenshot of the window you should 
>> see.
>> But please reply back to the mailing list, or you will be charged for my 
>> support.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Getting worse!
>>> 
>>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>>> 
>>> Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker > wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 
 This is weird.
 
 I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
 Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
 suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
 Contacts are there!
 
  Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  > wrote:
> 
> Ok Bill,
> 
> You said you have Time Machine Backups
> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
> 
> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
> 
> This folder needs to be restored:
> 
> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
> 
> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option 
> key and selecting
>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
> 
> Enter Time Machine 
> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
> 
> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
> contacts listed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I 
>> put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually 
>> come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
>>> the list.
>>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
>>> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
>>> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
>>> --- 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> If you are using iCloud:
>>> 
>>> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts 
>>> is Selected.
>>> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
>>> 
>>> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
>>> 
>>> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
>>> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
>>> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Bill Parker]

I think I have it sorted out.   Looks like the contacts are only in iCloud, so 
when I delesect iCloud the contacts all disappear.

The apps are there all right.   BUt see below:

B
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean you don't and have never had the Address Book.app or Contacts.app?
> Or are you in the wrong Library?
> 
> You Home Folder Library - NOT the Hard Drive Library
> The ~ tilde represent your Home User Library which is hidden.
> 1. In the Finder, choose GO > Go to Folder dialog
> Copy and paste 
> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook


All I get there is 

~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData

> into that dialog box
> 
> Then when it shows - leave the resulting window OPEN
> Then go to 'Enter Time Machine' in the Menu bar at the top of your desktop
> Then Select a backup date in the Time Machine backup 
> Then when Time Machine shows the 'AddressBook' folder window
> The window will show all the data that the AddressBook folder contains 
> Underneath you will see two buttons 'Cancel'  and 'Restore'
> Click Restore.
> 
> I'll send you offlist in another email a screenshot of the window you should 
> see.
> But please reply back to the mailing list, or you will be charged for my 
> support.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
>> Getting worse!
>> 
>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.
>>> 
>>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>>> Contacts are there!
>>> 
>>>  Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown > wrote:
 
 Ok Bill,
 
 You said you have Time Machine Backups
 Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
 
 If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
 
 This folder needs to be restored:
 
 ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
 
 Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
 and selecting
   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
 Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
 
 Enter Time Machine 
 Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
 Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
 Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
 overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
 
 Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
 contacts listed.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
 
 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put 
> in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come 
> up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
>> the list.
>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
>> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
>> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
>> --- 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> If you are using iCloud:
>> 
>> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts 
>> is Selected.
>> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
>> 
>> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
>> 
>> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
>> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
>> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>> 
>>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
>>> typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found 
>>> nothing.  All my contacts gone.
>>> 
>>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Ronda Brown]

Do you mean you don't and have never had the Address Book.app or Contacts.app?
Or are you in the wrong Library?

You Home Folder Library - NOT the Hard Drive Library
The ~ tilde represent your Home User Library which is hidden.
1. In the Finder, choose GO > Go to Folder dialog
Copy and paste 
~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
into that dialog box

Then when it shows - leave the resulting window OPEN
Then go to 'Enter Time Machine' in the Menu bar at the top of your desktop
Then Select a backup date in the Time Machine backup 
Then when Time Machine shows the 'AddressBook' folder window
The window will show all the data that the AddressBook folder contains 
Underneath you will see two buttons 'Cancel'  and 'Restore'
Click Restore.

I'll send you offlist in another email a screenshot of the window you should 
see.
But please reply back to the mailing list, or you will be charged for my 
support.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Getting worse!
> 
> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> This is weird.
>> 
>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>> Contacts are there!
>> 
>>  Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok Bill,
>>> 
>>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>>> 
>>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>>> 
>>> This folder needs to be restored:
>>> 
>>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>>> 
>>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
>>> and selecting
>>>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>>> 
>>> Enter Time Machine 
>>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
>>> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
>>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>>> 
>>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>>> contacts listed.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put 
 in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come 
 up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
 
 Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
> the list.
> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
> --- 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If you are using iCloud:
> 
> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
> Selected.
> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
> 
> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
> 
> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
>> typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found 
>> nothing.  All my contacts gone.
>> 
>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the 
>> contacts entries.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>>> Archives - 
>>> Guidelines - 
>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>> Archives - 
>> Guidelines - 
>> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
>> 
> 
> -- The WA 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Bill Parker]

Getting worse!

Now Contacts has “self restored”.

Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> This is weird.
> 
> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
> Contacts are there!
> 
>  Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok Bill,
>> 
>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>> 
>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>> 
>> This folder needs to be restored:
>> 
>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>> 
>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
>> and selecting
>>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>> 
>> Enter Time Machine 
>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the Address 
>> Book content from a Time Machine backup
>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>> 
>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>> contacts listed.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put 
>>> in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come 
>>> up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
>>> 
>>> Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown > wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the 
 list.
 Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
 come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
 So I've copied my reply message to you below:
 --- 
 Hi Bill,
 
 If you are using iCloud:
 
 Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
 Selected.
 Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
 
 If you are NOT using iCloud. 
 
 Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
 Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
 All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker > wrote:
 
> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
> typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing. 
>  All my contacts gone.
> 
> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
> entries.
> 
> ?
> 
> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
>> Archives - > >
>> Guidelines - > >
>> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
>> > >
> 
> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
> Archives - 
> Guidelines - 
> Settings & Unsubscribe - 
> 

-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
Archives - 
Guidelines - 
Settings & Unsubscribe - 

Re: All Contacts lost

[Bill Parker]

Ronni,

This is weird.

I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme Machine 
and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you suggested. Then 
in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor Contacts are there!

 Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Ok Bill,
> 
> You said you have Time Machine Backups
> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
> 
> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
> 
> This folder needs to be restored:
> 
> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
> 
> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
> and selecting
>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
> 
> Enter Time Machine 
> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the Address 
> Book content from a Time Machine backup
> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
> 
> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
> contacts listed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put in 
>> this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come up 
>> but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the 
>>> list.
>>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
>>> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
>>> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
>>> --- 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> If you are using iCloud:
>>> 
>>> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
>>> Selected.
>>> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
>>> 
>>> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
>>> 
>>> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
>>> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
>>> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Wamuggers,
 
 I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
 typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  
 All my contacts gone.
 
 I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
 entries.
 
 ?
 
 Bill
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[Ronni Brown]

Ok Bill,

You said you have Time Machine Backups
Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.

If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:

This folder needs to be restored:

~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook

Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key and 
selecting
  Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 

Enter Time Machine 
Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the Address 
Book content from a Time Machine backup
Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.

Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
contacts listed.

Cheers,
Ronni

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> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Ronni,
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put in 
> this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come up but 
> that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the 
>> list.
>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did come 
>> to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
>> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
>> --- 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> If you are using iCloud:
>> 
>> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
>> Selected.
>> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
>> 
>> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
>> 
>> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
>> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
>> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>> 
>>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed 
>>> the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  All my 
>>> contacts gone.
>>> 
>>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
>>> entries.
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Bill


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Re: All Contacts lost

[Bill Parker]

Ronni,


Thanks,

Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put in 
this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come up but 
that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)

Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the 
> list.
> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did come 
> to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
> --- 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If you are using iCloud:
> 
> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
> Selected.
> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
> 
> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
> 
> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed 
>> the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  All my 
>> contacts gone.
>> 
>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
>> entries.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Bill
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Hi Bill,

If you are using iCloud:

Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
Selected.
Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.

If you are NOT using iCloud. 

Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click Contacts 
Card: "Open Button”. 
All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.

> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed 
> the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  All my 
> contacts gone.
> 
> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
> entries.
> 
> ?
> 
> Bill

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

El Capitan OS X 10.11.5

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Re: All Contacts lost

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Bill,

I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to the list.
Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did come to 
the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
So I've copied my reply message to you below:
--- 
Hi Bill,

If you are using iCloud:

Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
Selected.
Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.

If you are NOT using iCloud. 

Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click Contacts 
Card: "Open Button”. 
All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wamuggers,
> 
> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed 
> the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  All my 
> contacts gone.
> 
> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
> entries.
> 
> ?
> 
> Bill
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All Contacts lost

[Bill Parker]

Hi Wamuggers,

I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I typed the 
recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found nothing.  All my 
contacts gone.

I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the contacts 
entries.

?

Bill
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