Re: Apple: some food for thought
Hi Rob, I will do a Tutorial over the next day or so and upload it to my website, showing you that it does work using the steps I explained below. I did the process again today so I could take screenshots on my iPad to do a Tutorial. I took a few photos on my camera and connected to iPad using the CCK (Camera Connection Kit), imported the photos, then uploaded the imported photos to dropbox. And all the uploaded photos have synced to my Dropbox Photos folder on all my devices - MBP /iPad / iPhone I'll let you know when I have done the Tutorial. Cheers, Ronni On 18/09/2012, at 11:22 AM, Rob Phillips r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au wrote: Hi Ronni I don't have the iPad here - it's still with the boss in Switzerland... Your description of Dropbox is as I remember it, with one exception. I don't remember seeing the + at the top of the uploads section. I could only see the contents of my camera roll, not the other events/albums (e.g. Last Imported) which I could see in the Photo App. I was able to use the iResize App to access hi-res photos in Last Imported, and this inserted the compressed images into the Camera Roll, where Dropbox could see them and synch them, but I really wanted a backup of my originals. Cheers Rob On 18/09/12 9:45 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Rob, Perhaps I'm not understanding your problem correctly. The iPad version of the Dropbox mobile app allows you to upload any videos or photos synced to your gallery. 1. Open the Dropbox App, link to account etc. 2. Click the Box icon on the left hand side, a pop up opens 3. Click the uploads tab at the bottom, which is immediately next to the settings 4. Click the + at the top of the uploads section The app still asks for permission to access your locations, (because photos can contain location data) 5. Tap the photos and videos you want to send to Dropbox from the resulting photo gallery. 6. Once done select 'Upload' Cheers, Ronni On 17/09/2012, at 10:18 PM, Rob Phillips r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au wrote: G'day Mart and others, This may be a bit heretical, but I have concerns how Apple is locking things down to its commercial benefit. Let me give you a concrete example. I've just returned from a month hiking through Switzerland. (If you have the interest, check out http://www.everlater.com/raphillips1). To prepare for this, I bought an iPad to: use to display Swiss topographical maps and record our track by GPS; to maintain a trip blog; to store and process Rita's photos; and do general web surfing. The iPad was great except for one element. Photo management. I was able to purchase an adaptor to download photos from the camera to the iPad. I had 15GB of DropBox space to backup the photos to the cloud. Everything was sweet. Then I downloaded the first lot of photos, and I could see them on the iPad, but they weren't in the 'camera roll'. Only items in the camera roll can be synched to DropBox and Mobile me. By default, only photos taken with the iPad camera go in the camera roll. The only way to get access to these photos seems to be to connect the iPad to a Mac registered to me, then upload/ download the photos to that machine. I didn't have one of these with me! Why does Apple restrict the functionality of powerful devices like the iPad so that it can only be used in ways that Apple determines, and which require other hardware. The underlying OS should enable me to do much more. I spent hours at nights trying to find apps to work around this, without much success. It shouldn't be so difficult. I am concerned that I am being manipulated by Apple. Cheers Rob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Apple: some food for thought
This is the reply I posted to the article below: I'm sorry, but complaining about a $35 adapter is frankly silly. Why don't you go complain about car manufacturers charging an atrocious $400 for a replacement key remote instead - a far more nefarious example of corporate greed than Apple's little adapter. NFC has been termed Not For Commerce because it has been dead in the water as it requires huge changes by retailers. Apple only supports these sorts of standards once they become widespread enough to be useful - witness the time Apple took introducing 3G and 4G in their devices - they waited until there was enough 3G and 4G coverage to be useful for consumers saving them the terrible battery life impact inherent with jumping in too soon on early chipsets. Likewise, the ACCC's crusade against Apple re 4G was ridiculous as the International Telecommunications Union classes Telstra's HSPA+ dual carrier NextG network as 4G even if Telstra doesn't advertise it as such locally. It gives up to 42mbps speeds which is far faster than Vivid Wireless's 4G WiMax network here in Australia which tops out at a pathetic 5mbps. In contrast, Apple's iPad 4G has demonstrated real-world speeds of 20mbps on NextG in Australia. Now you tell me who is putting one over the consumer in that context? @David, this continued witch-hunt against Apple over Chinese working conditions is unfortunately based on a lot of untruth exacerbated by the infamous Mike Daisy. For example the topic that started the media frenzy originally was the supposed suicide cluster at Foxconn, Apple's major Chinese assembler. The reality which still very few media outlets mention is that only 17 suicides were verified over a 5 year period. This may sound like a lot until you realise that if Foxconn had the same suicide rate as the rest of China, they would have had 1,320 suicides over that same timeframe out of their 1.2 million workers. Make no mistake about it, these sorts of complaints are nothing but tall-poppy syndrome and sour grapes On 17/09/2012, at 1:03 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=33211 Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Apple: some food for thought
Totally agree with you Martin on all you have mentioned below. This is classic Tall Poppy Syndrome and jealousy of Apple's huge success! Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 17/09/2012, at 2:31 PM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: This is the reply I posted to the article below: I'm sorry, but complaining about a $35 adapter is frankly silly. Why don't you go complain about car manufacturers charging an atrocious $400 for a replacement key remote instead - a far more nefarious example of corporate greed than Apple's little adapter. NFC has been termed Not For Commerce because it has been dead in the water as it requires huge changes by retailers. Apple only supports these sorts of standards once they become widespread enough to be useful - witness the time Apple took introducing 3G and 4G in their devices - they waited until there was enough 3G and 4G coverage to be useful for consumers saving them the terrible battery life impact inherent with jumping in too soon on early chipsets. Likewise, the ACCC's crusade against Apple re 4G was ridiculous as the International Telecommunications Union classes Telstra's HSPA+ dual carrier NextG network as 4G even if Telstra doesn't advertise it as such locally. It gives up to 42mbps speeds which is far faster than Vivid Wireless's 4G WiMax network here in Australia which tops out at a pathetic 5mbps. In contrast, Apple's iPad 4G has demonstrated real-world speeds of 20mbps on NextG in Australia. Now you tell me who is putting one over the consumer in that context? @David, this continued witch-hunt against Apple over Chinese working conditions is unfortunately based on a lot of untruth exacerbated by the infamous Mike Daisy. For example the topic that started the media frenzy originally was the supposed suicide cluster at Foxconn, Apple's major Chinese assembler. The reality which still very few media outlets mention is that only 17 suicides were verified over a 5 year period. This may sound like a lot until you realise that if Foxconn had the same suicide rate as the rest of China, they would have had 1,320 suicides over that same timeframe out of their 1.2 million workers. Make no mistake about it, these sorts of complaints are nothing but tall-poppy syndrome and sour grapes On 17/09/2012, at 1:03 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=33211 Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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Well done Martin ! On 17/09/2012, at 2:31 PM, Martin Hill wrote: This is the reply I posted to the article below: I'm sorry, but complaining about a $35 adapter is frankly silly. Why don't you go complain about car manufacturers charging an atrocious $400 for a replacement key remote instead - a far more nefarious example of corporate greed than Apple's little adapter. NFC has been termed Not For Commerce because it has been dead in the water as it requires huge changes by retailers. Apple only supports these sorts of standards once they become widespread enough to be useful - witness the time Apple took introducing 3G and 4G in their devices - they waited until there was enough 3G and 4G coverage to be useful for consumers saving them the terrible battery life impact inherent with jumping in too soon on early chipsets. Likewise, the ACCC's crusade against Apple re 4G was ridiculous as the International Telecommunications Union classes Telstra's HSPA+ dual carrier NextG network as 4G even if Telstra doesn't advertise it as such locally. It gives up to 42mbps speeds which is far faster than Vivid Wireless's 4G WiMax network here in Australia which tops out at a pathetic 5mbps. In contrast, Apple's iPad 4G has demonstrated real-world speeds of 20mbps on NextG in Australia. Now you tell me who is putting one over the consumer in that context? @David, this continued witch-hunt against Apple over Chinese working conditions is unfortunately based on a lot of untruth exacerbated by the infamous Mike Daisy. For example the topic that started the media frenzy originally was the supposed suicide cluster at Foxconn, Apple's major Chinese assembler. The reality which still very few media outlets mention is that only 17 suicides were verified over a 5 year period. This may sound like a lot until you realise that if Foxconn had the same suicide rate as the rest of China, they would have had 1,320 suicides over that same timeframe out of their 1.2 million workers. Make no mistake about it, these sorts of complaints are nothing but tall-poppy syndrome and sour grapes On 17/09/2012, at 1:03 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=33211 Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120917/b0d12097/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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It is a common ploy to defend oneself by saying that everybody else is doing it. Throw in some adjectives such as silly, ridiculous and tall poppy syndrome to add to the mix. The issue of ethics in business is the sub-text of the article. At the more literal reading the author of the article was suggesting that a $35 adapter was a small amount for a company at the top of profit list in the world and would have been a gesture of goodwill to its devoted customers. Merv On 17/09/12 5:25 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: Well done Martin ! On 17/09/2012, at 2:31 PM, Martin Hill wrote: This is the reply I posted to the article below: I'm sorry, but complaining about a $35 adapter is frankly silly. Why don't you go complain about car manufacturers charging an atrocious $400 for a replacement key remote instead - a far more nefarious example of corporate greed than Apple's little adapter. NFC has been termed Not For Commerce because it has been dead in the water as it requires huge changes by retailers. Apple only supports these sorts of standards once they become widespread enough to be useful - witness the time Apple took introducing 3G and 4G in their devices - they waited until there was enough 3G and 4G coverage to be useful for consumers saving them the terrible battery life impact inherent with jumping in too soon on early chipsets. Likewise, the ACCC's crusade against Apple re 4G was ridiculous as the International Telecommunications Union classes Telstra's HSPA+ dual carrier NextG network as 4G even if Telstra doesn't advertise it as such locally. It gives up to 42mbps speeds which is far faster than Vivid Wireless's 4G WiMax network here in Australia which tops out at a pathetic 5mbps. In contrast, Apple's iPad 4G has demonstrated real-world speeds of 20mbps on NextG in Australia. Now you tell me who is putting one over the consumer in that context? @David, this continued witch-hunt against Apple over Chinese working conditions is unfortunately based on a lot of untruth exacerbated by the infamous Mike Daisy. For example the topic that started the media frenzy originally was the supposed suicide cluster at Foxconn, Apple's major Chinese assembler. The reality which still very few media outlets mention is that only 17 suicides were verified over a 5 year period. This may sound like a lot until you realise that if Foxconn had the same suicide rate as the rest of China, they would have had 1,320 suicides over that same timeframe out of their 1.2 million workers. Make no mistake about it, these sorts of complaints are nothing but tall-poppy syndrome and sour grapes On 17/09/2012, at 1:03 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=33211 Merv -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120917/b0d12097/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The whole psychology of modern disquiet is linked with the sudden confrontation with space-time. (Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man') -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Apple: some food for thought
Merv, my apologies if I expressed myself a bit too strongly in my comment. I do in fact agree absolutely about the importance of ethical business practices but feel the examples given in the article were just so inaccurate as to damage the author's cause. I have been frustrated in recent years at the amount of unbalanced commentary in much of the media about things like this. The continual tendency to tear down those who do well that is such a feature of the Australian psyche is unfortunately all too evident on the Internet as well. In the case of Apple it almost seems to be an orchestrated campaign for many elements of the media to fixate on some manufactured negative issue with each product release and blow it out of all proportion. Examples include the lack of a keyboard on the original iPhone, the non-removable battery, the supposedly *hot* iPad which was cooler than most other tablets, the Aussie 4G issue and now this $35 adapter. Where was the outcry when Samsung changed their adapter from their 30-pin dock connector (which they copied from Apple) in the Galaxy S2 to the Galaxy S3 without a free adapter for S2 owners? What's wrong with buying a cheaper third party adapter than Apple's for the new iPhone 5 - they're already being advertised. Why should Apple give it away free? Apple already gives lots of free or cheap stuff out - far cheaper OS update prices than Microsoft, far cheaper app prices than desktop software, free iCloud services, the cheap cloud-hosted iTunes Match service even for pirated music, free iOS system updates, free Find My iPhone and Find my Friends apps, free Maps GPS navigation app, free iTunes Remote app, etc etc. How many gestures of goodwill does Apple have to make? What's the big deal about this adapter? What other company has stuck with the same adapter and port on their devices for a decade? Why is there no outcry over the ridiculous number of different USB port sizes and shapes out there that you have to buy different cables and adapters for each different device? Why did I have to pay $400 for a new remote key fob for my Landrover(). ;-( It is this unbalanced commentary that just gets my goat! -Mart On 17/09/2012, at 5:53 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: It is a common ploy to defend oneself by saying that everybody else is doing it. Throw in some adjectives such as silly, ridiculous and tall poppy syndrome to add to the mix. The issue of ethics in business is the sub-text of the article. At the more literal reading the author of the article was suggesting that a $35 adapter was a small amount for a company at the top of profit list in the world and would have been a gesture of goodwill to its devoted customers. Merv On 17/09/12 5:25 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: Well done Martin ! On 17/09/2012, at 2:31 PM, Martin Hill wrote: This is the reply I posted to the article below: I'm sorry, but complaining about a $35 adapter is frankly silly. Why don't you go complain about car manufacturers charging an atrocious $400 for a replacement key remote instead - a far more nefarious example of corporate greed than Apple's little adapter. NFC has been termed Not For Commerce because it has been dead in the water as it requires huge changes by retailers. Apple only supports these sorts of standards once they become widespread enough to be useful - witness the time Apple took introducing 3G and 4G in their devices - they waited until there was enough 3G and 4G coverage to be useful for consumers saving them the terrible battery life impact inherent with jumping in too soon on early chipsets. Likewise, the ACCC's crusade against Apple re 4G was ridiculous as the International Telecommunications Union classes Telstra's HSPA+ dual carrier NextG network as 4G even if Telstra doesn't advertise it as such locally. It gives up to 42mbps speeds which is far faster than Vivid Wireless's 4G WiMax network here in Australia which tops out at a pathetic 5mbps. In contrast, Apple's iPad 4G has demonstrated real-world speeds of 20mbps on NextG in Australia. Now you tell me who is putting one over the consumer in that context? @David, this continued witch-hunt against Apple over Chinese working conditions is unfortunately based on a lot of untruth exacerbated by the infamous Mike Daisy. For example the topic that started the media frenzy originally was the supposed suicide cluster at Foxconn, Apple's major Chinese assembler. The reality which still very few media outlets mention is that only 17 suicides were verified over a 5 year period. This may sound like a lot until you realise that if Foxconn had the same suicide rate as the rest of China, they would have had 1,320 suicides over that same timeframe out of their 1.2 million workers. Make no mistake about it, these sorts of complaints are nothing but tall-poppy syndrome and sour grapes On
Re: Apple: some food for thought
No need to apologise, Mat. I thought the article would be provocative and I understand you shooting from the hip in your response. I am glad we are both on the same wave length with respect to ethical business practices. Merv On 17/09/12 8:52 PM, Martin Hill wrote: Merv, my apologies if I expressed myself a bit too strongly in my comment. I do in fact agree absolutely about the importance of ethical business practices but feel the examples given in the article were just so inaccurate as to damage the author's cause. I have been frustrated in recent years at the amount of unbalanced commentary in much of the media about things like this. The continual tendency to tear down those who do well that is such a feature of the Australian psyche is unfortunately all too evident on the Internet as well. In the case of Apple it almost seems to be an orchestrated campaign for many elements of the media to fixate on some manufactured negative issue with each product release and blow it out of all proportion. Examples include the lack of a keyboard on the original iPhone, the non-removable battery, the supposedly *hot* iPad which was cooler than most other tablets, the Aussie 4G issue and now this $35 adapter. Where was the outcry when Samsung changed their adapter from their 30-pin dock connector (which they copied from Apple) in the Galaxy S2 to the Galaxy S3 without a free adapter for S2 owners? What's wrong with buying a cheaper third party adapter than Apple's for the new iPhone 5 - they're already being advertised. Why should Apple give it away free? Apple already gives lots of free or cheap stuff out - far cheaper OS update prices than Microsoft, far cheaper app prices than desktop software, free iCloud services, the cheap cloud-hosted iTunes Match service even for pirated music, free iOS system updates, free Find My iPhone and Find my Friends apps, free Maps GPS navigation app, free iTunes Remote app, etc etc. How many gestures of goodwill does Apple have to make? What's the big deal about this adapter? What other company has stuck with the same adapter and port on their devices for a decade? Why is there no outcry over the ridiculous number of different USB port sizes and shapes out there that you have to buy different cables and adapters for each different device? Why did I have to pay $400 for a new remote key fob for my Landrover(). ;-( It is this unbalanced commentary that just gets my goat! -Mart On 17/09/2012, at 5:53 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: It is a common ploy to defend oneself by saying that everybody else is doing it. Throw in some adjectives such as silly, ridiculous and tall poppy syndrome to add to the mix. The issue of ethics in business is the sub-text of the article. At the more literal reading the author of the article was suggesting that a $35 adapter was a small amount for a company at the top of profit list in the world and would have been a gesture of goodwill to its devoted customers. Merv On 17/09/12 5:25 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: Well done Martin ! On 17/09/2012, at 2:31 PM, Martin Hill wrote: This is the reply I posted to the article below: I'm sorry, but complaining about a $35 adapter is frankly silly. Why don't you go complain about car manufacturers charging an atrocious $400 for a replacement key remote instead - a far more nefarious example of corporate greed than Apple's little adapter. NFC has been termed Not For Commerce because it has been dead in the water as it requires huge changes by retailers. Apple only supports these sorts of standards once they become widespread enough to be useful - witness the time Apple took introducing 3G and 4G in their devices - they waited until there was enough 3G and 4G coverage to be useful for consumers saving them the terrible battery life impact inherent with jumping in too soon on early chipsets. Likewise, the ACCC's crusade against Apple re 4G was ridiculous as the International Telecommunications Union classes Telstra's HSPA+ dual carrier NextG network as 4G even if Telstra doesn't advertise it as such locally. It gives up to 42mbps speeds which is far faster than Vivid Wireless's 4G WiMax network here in Australia which tops out at a pathetic 5mbps. In contrast, Apple's iPad 4G has demonstrated real-world speeds of 20mbps on NextG in Australia. Now you tell me who is putting one over the consumer in that context? @David, this continued witch-hunt against Apple over Chinese working conditions is unfortunately based on a lot of untruth exacerbated by the infamous Mike Daisy. For example the topic that started the media frenzy originally was the supposed suicide cluster at Foxconn, Apple's major Chinese assembler. The reality which still very few media outlets mention is that only 17 suicides were verified over a 5 year period. This may sound like a lot until you
Re: Apple: some food for thought
G'day Martin, good dialogue on this one. Email me off line about Land Rover key fob replacement. I'm doing a battery replacement myself and new shell, all for $40 I hope. I hope I'm not too late for you. Sorry for hijacking but wanted to help a fellow mugger. Regards Pete petercr...@westnet.com.au On 17/09/2012, at 8:52 PM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Merv, my apologies if I expressed myself a bit too strongly in my comment. I do in fact agree absolutely about the importance of ethical business practices but feel the examples given in the article were just so inaccurate as to damage the author's cause. I have been frustrated in recent years at the amount of unbalanced commentary in much of the media about things like this. The continual tendency to tear down those who do well that is such a feature of the Australian psyche is unfortunately all too evident on the Internet as well. In the case of Apple it almost seems to be an orchestrated campaign for many elements of the media to fixate on some manufactured negative issue with each product release and blow it out of all proportion. Examples include the lack of a keyboard on the original iPhone, the non-removable battery, the supposedly *hot* iPad which was cooler than most other tablets, the Aussie 4G issue and now this $35 adapter. Where was the outcry when Samsung changed their adapter from their 30-pin dock connector (which they copied from Apple) in the Galaxy S2 to the Galaxy S3 without a free adapter for S2 owners? What's wrong with buying a cheaper third party adapter than Apple's for the new iPhone 5 - they're already being advertised. Why should Apple give it away free? Apple already gives lots of free or cheap stuff out - far cheaper OS update prices than Microsoft, far cheaper app prices than desktop software, free iCloud services, the cheap cloud-hosted iTunes Match service even for pirated music, free iOS system updates, free Find My iPhone and Find my Friends apps, free Maps GPS navigation app, free iTunes Remote app, etc etc. How many gestures of goodwill does Apple have to make? What's the big deal about this adapter? What other company has stuck with the same adapter and port on their devices for a decade? Why is there no outcry over the ridiculous number of different USB port sizes and shapes out there that you have to buy different cables and adapters for each different device? Why did I have to pay $400 for a new remote key fob for my Landrover(). ;-( It is this unbalanced commentary that just gets my goat! -Mart On 17/09/2012, at 5:53 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: It is a common ploy to defend oneself by saying that everybody else is doing it. Throw in some adjectives such as silly, ridiculous and tall poppy syndrome to add to the mix. The issue of ethics in business is the sub-text of the article. At the more literal reading the author of the article was suggesting that a $35 adapter was a small amount for a company at the top of profit list in the world and would have been a gesture of goodwill to its devoted customers. Merv On 17/09/12 5:25 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: Well done Martin ! On 17/09/2012, at 2:31 PM, Martin Hill wrote: This is the reply I posted to the article below: I'm sorry, but complaining about a $35 adapter is frankly silly. Why don't you go complain about car manufacturers charging an atrocious $400 for a replacement key remote instead - a far more nefarious example of corporate greed than Apple's little adapter. NFC has been termed Not For Commerce because it has been dead in the water as it requires huge changes by retailers. Apple only supports these sorts of standards once they become widespread enough to be useful - witness the time Apple took introducing 3G and 4G in their devices - they waited until there was enough 3G and 4G coverage to be useful for consumers saving them the terrible battery life impact inherent with jumping in too soon on early chipsets. Likewise, the ACCC's crusade against Apple re 4G was ridiculous as the International Telecommunications Union classes Telstra's HSPA+ dual carrier NextG network as 4G even if Telstra doesn't advertise it as such locally. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Apple: some food for thought
G'day Mart and others, This may be a bit heretical, but I have concerns how Apple is locking things down to its commercial benefit. Let me give you a concrete example. I've just returned from a month hiking through Switzerland. (If you have the interest, check out http://www.everlater.com/raphillips1). To prepare for this, I bought an iPad to: use to display Swiss topographical maps and record our track by GPS; to maintain a trip blog; to store and process Rita's photos; and do general web surfing. The iPad was great except for one element. Photo management. I was able to purchase an adaptor to download photos from the camera to the iPad. I had 15GB of DropBox space to backup the photos to the cloud. Everything was sweet. Then I downloaded the first lot of photos, and I could see them on the iPad, but they weren't in the 'camera roll'. Only items in the camera roll can be synched to DropBox and Mobile me. By default, only photos taken with the iPad camera go in the camera roll. The only way to get access to these photos seems to be to connect the iPad to a Mac registered to me, then upload/ download the photos to that machine. I didn't have one of these with me! Why does Apple restrict the functionality of powerful devices like the iPad so that it can only be used in ways that Apple determines, and which require other hardware. The underlying OS should enable me to do much more. I spent hours at nights trying to find apps to work around this, without much success. It shouldn't be so difficult. I am concerned that I am being manipulated by Apple. Cheers Rob On 17/09/12 9:30 PM, Peter Crisp wrote: G'day Martin, good dialogue on this one. Email me off line about Land Rover key fob replacement. I'm doing a battery replacement myself and new shell, all for $40 I hope. I hope I'm not too late for you. Sorry for hijacking but wanted to help a fellow mugger. Regards Pete petercr...@westnet.com.au On 17/09/2012, at 8:52 PM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Merv, my apologies if I expressed myself a bit too strongly in my comment. I do in fact agree absolutely about the importance of ethical business practices but feel the examples given in the article were just so inaccurate as to damage the author's cause. I have been frustrated in recent years at the amount of unbalanced commentary in much of the media about things like this. The continual tendency to tear down those who do well that is such a feature of the Australian psyche is unfortunately all too evident on the Internet as well. In the case of Apple it almost seems to be an orchestrated campaign for many elements of the media to fixate on some manufactured negative issue with each product release and blow it out of all proportion. Examples include the lack of a keyboard on the original iPhone, the non-removable battery, the supposedly *hot* iPad which was cooler than most other tablets, the Aussie 4G issue and now this $35 adapter. Where was the outcry when Samsung changed their adapter from their 30-pin dock connector (which they copied from Apple) in the Galaxy S2 to the Galaxy S3 without a free adapter for S2 owners? What's wrong with buying a cheaper third party adapter than Apple's for the new iPhone 5 - they're already being advertised. Why should Apple give it away free? Apple already gives lots of free or cheap stuff out - far cheaper OS update prices than Microsoft, far cheaper app prices than desktop software, free iCloud services, the cheap cloud-hosted iTunes Match service even for pirated music, free iOS system updates, free Find My iPhone and Find my Friends apps, free Maps GPS navigation app, free iTunes Remote app, etc etc. How many gestures of goodwill does Apple have to make? What's the big deal about this adapter? What other company has stuck with the same adapter and port on their devices for a decade? Why is there no outcry over the ridiculous number of different USB port sizes and shapes out there that you have to buy different cables and adapters for each different device? Why did I have to pay $400 for a new remote key fob for my Landrover(). ;-( It is this unbalanced commentary that just gets my goat! -Mart On 17/09/2012, at 5:53 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote: It is a common ploy to defend oneself by saying that everybody else is doing it. Throw in some adjectives such as silly, ridiculous and tall poppy syndrome to add to the mix. The issue of ethics in business is the sub-text of the article. At the more literal reading the author of the article was suggesting that a $35 adapter was a small amount for a company at the top of profit list in the world and would have been a gesture of goodwill to its devoted customers. Merv On 17/09/12 5:25 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: Well done Martin ! On 17/09/2012, at 2:31 PM, Martin Hill wrote: This is the reply I posted to the article below:
Re: Apple: some food for thought
Hi Rob, Perhaps I'm not understanding your problem correctly. The iPad version of the Dropbox mobile app allows you to upload any videos or photos synced to your gallery. 1. Open the Dropbox App, link to account etc. 2. Click the Box icon on the left hand side, a pop up opens 3. Click the uploads tab at the bottom, which is immediately next to the settings 4. Click the + at the top of the uploads section The app still asks for permission to access your locations, (because photos can contain location data) 5. Tap the photos and videos you want to send to Dropbox from the resulting photo gallery. 6. Once done select 'Upload' Cheers, Ronni On 17/09/2012, at 10:18 PM, Rob Phillips r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au wrote: G'day Mart and others, This may be a bit heretical, but I have concerns how Apple is locking things down to its commercial benefit. Let me give you a concrete example. I've just returned from a month hiking through Switzerland. (If you have the interest, check out http://www.everlater.com/raphillips1). To prepare for this, I bought an iPad to: use to display Swiss topographical maps and record our track by GPS; to maintain a trip blog; to store and process Rita's photos; and do general web surfing. The iPad was great except for one element. Photo management. I was able to purchase an adaptor to download photos from the camera to the iPad. I had 15GB of DropBox space to backup the photos to the cloud. Everything was sweet. Then I downloaded the first lot of photos, and I could see them on the iPad, but they weren't in the 'camera roll'. Only items in the camera roll can be synched to DropBox and Mobile me. By default, only photos taken with the iPad camera go in the camera roll. The only way to get access to these photos seems to be to connect the iPad to a Mac registered to me, then upload/ download the photos to that machine. I didn't have one of these with me! Why does Apple restrict the functionality of powerful devices like the iPad so that it can only be used in ways that Apple determines, and which require other hardware. The underlying OS should enable me to do much more. I spent hours at nights trying to find apps to work around this, without much success. It shouldn't be so difficult. I am concerned that I am being manipulated by Apple. Cheers Rob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Apple: some food for thought
Hi Ronni I don't have the iPad here - it's still with the boss in Switzerland... Your description of Dropbox is as I remember it, with one exception. I don't remember seeing the + at the top of the uploads section. I could only see the contents of my camera roll, not the other events/albums (e.g. Last Imported) which I could see in the Photo App. I was able to use the iResize App to access hi-res photos in Last Imported, and this inserted the compressed images into the Camera Roll, where Dropbox could see them and synch them, but I really wanted a backup of my originals. Cheers Rob On 18/09/12 9:45 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Rob, Perhaps I'm not understanding your problem correctly. The iPad version of the Dropbox mobile app allows you to upload any videos or photos synced to your gallery. 1. Open the Dropbox App, link to account etc. 2. Click the Box icon on the left hand side, a pop up opens 3. Click the uploads tab at the bottom, which is immediately next to the settings 4. Click the + at the top of the uploads section The app still asks for permission to access your locations, (because photos can contain location data) 5. Tap the photos and videos you want to send to Dropbox from the resulting photo gallery. 6. Once done select 'Upload' Cheers, Ronni On 17/09/2012, at 10:18 PM, Rob Phillips r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au wrote: G'day Mart and others, This may be a bit heretical, but I have concerns how Apple is locking things down to its commercial benefit. Let me give you a concrete example. I've just returned from a month hiking through Switzerland. (If you have the interest, check out http://www.everlater.com/raphillips1). To prepare for this, I bought an iPad to: use to display Swiss topographical maps and record our track by GPS; to maintain a trip blog; to store and process Rita's photos; and do general web surfing. The iPad was great except for one element. Photo management. I was able to purchase an adaptor to download photos from the camera to the iPad. I had 15GB of DropBox space to backup the photos to the cloud. Everything was sweet. Then I downloaded the first lot of photos, and I could see them on the iPad, but they weren't in the 'camera roll'. Only items in the camera roll can be synched to DropBox and Mobile me. By default, only photos taken with the iPad camera go in the camera roll. The only way to get access to these photos seems to be to connect the iPad to a Mac registered to me, then upload/ download the photos to that machine. I didn't have one of these with me! Why does Apple restrict the functionality of powerful devices like the iPad so that it can only be used in ways that Apple determines, and which require other hardware. The underlying OS should enable me to do much more. I spent hours at nights trying to find apps to work around this, without much success. It shouldn't be so difficult. I am concerned that I am being manipulated by Apple. Cheers Rob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Apple: some food for thought
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