Re: IceTV app - recommended? - and Elgato EyeTV Hy brid/i7 iMac problems

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Kyle,

Yes, I can understand that not all USB ports on modern Macs are created
equal ­ System profiler on my 27² iMac only shows two USB High-Speed Busses
­ each with one hub and so each of these hubs already has internal Mac
hardware hanging off it ­ The IR Receiver and Built-in iSight on one hub and
the Internal Memory Card Reader and BRCM2046 Hub (with the Bluetooth
Controller hanging off it) on the other hub.

The situation with the MacBook Pro I find much more confusing:

* There are only two external USB ports but sometimes these ports show up on
a USB bus (USB1) and sometimes they show up on a USB high speed bus (USB2)
* These external ports can switch busses independently of each other.
* The EyeTV is obviously a USB2 device and needs to be connected to a USB
high speed bus (USB2)
* A given port can be showing as on a USB high speed bus (USB2) with a USB
flash drive mounted but then, when I eject the drive and plug the EyeTV unit
in, the port is switched to a USB bus (USB1) - and so the EyeTV software
tells me to connect it to a USB2 port!
* The problem is convincing the MacBook Pro to connect the port to a a USB
high speed bus (USB2) and not to a USB bus (USB1)
* Once the EyeTV is connected to a port AND the MacBook Pro has the port
connected to a a USB high speed bus (USB2) everything works OK.
* This situation is the same for either/both of the two external USB ports.

I may well get a powered USB hub (although the iMac now seems to be working
OK) - but if I¹m travelling light with the laptop I probably wouldn¹t want
the extra weight (not so much the hub as the powerpack) whereas the actual
EyeTV hybrid is small & light enough to throw in the bag.

Anyway, it¹s all part of the fun of learning how it all works ;o)


Cheers



Neil
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Email: n...@possumology.com


on 11/12/10 3:53 PM, Kyle Kreusch at kylekreu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Neil
>  
>> Finally, I shut down the computer, plugged the EyeTV in and THEN restarted ­
>> this time the EyeTV shows up on a USB high speed bus and so EyeTV works fine
>> ­ I change channels and even unplug and re-plug the EyeTV (with EyeTV
>> running) and there is no problem.
> 
> As I mentioned earlier in several members on this list at as well not all USB
> ports on modern Macs are created equal. This is the exact same problem my dad
> has with his Elgato EyeTV Hybrid (Previous Generation) and exactly what you
> have mentioned above is how we fix the problem unfortunately I have not been
> able to find another solution.
> 
> I have speculated Most of these problems most likely could be solved it by
> using a USB powered hub or maybe one of
> these 
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[Kyle Kreusch]

Hi, Neil


> Finally, I shut down the computer, plugged the EyeTV in and THEN restarted
> – this time the EyeTV shows up on a USB high speed bus and so EyeTV works
> fine – I change channels and even unplug and re-plug the EyeTV (with EyeTV
> running) and there is no problem.


As I mentioned earlier in several members on this list at as well not all
USB ports on modern Macs are created equal. This is the exact same problem
my dad has with his Elgato EyeTV Hybrid (Previous Generation) and exactly
what you have mentioned above is how we fix the problem unfortunately I have
not been able to find another solution.

I have speculated Most of these problems most likely could be solved it by
using a USB powered hub or maybe one of these <
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/229190/Screen.Shots/USB-Power.jpg>

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[Kyle Kreusch]

Hi, Neil

Good news about you getting it to work now I've added some more information
to your points from your previous e-mail.



> Check System preferences, Accounts, login items – still no EyeTV helper –
> is this perhaps installed during the set-up process


Yes you are correct this happens after you have completed this set-up
process.


Check inside the EyeTV application package – EyeTV Helper is in the
> Resources folder


That is correct it is also then copied to /Library/Application Support/EyeTV
 After the setup process


 Elgato EyeTV Hybrid (Previous Generation) into the USB port closest to the
> FireWire 800 port


As various members have mentioned on the mailing list previously Intel iMacs
most USB ports are not created equal as they using a USB hub internally. on
this computer the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid (Previous Generation) must be always
plugged into this USB ports. more information below


Start up the computer  - EXCEPT it didn’t start!! - Got the chime, got the
> white screen but no “counting clock” - left it for quite a while but finally
> switched off with the power button.


This is actually good news. (But it really shouldn't happen. But it does)
Why it's good it means the iMac is finally recognising the Elgato EyeTV
Hybrid (Previous Generation).


Now I’m panicking – thinking I’ve bricked my iMac (about 2 weeks after
> warranty expired!) - however, I disconnect the EyeTV and UPS USB plugs (just
> the keyboard now) and try re-starting – and it starts up OK. I run disk
> verification and repair permissions (yes, I know it doesn’t sound like it
> was a disk problem – it didn’t get as far as looking for a system disk – but
> it can’t hurt eh? - everything looks fine).
>

Next time don't panic just unplug the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid
(Previous Generation). And wait a few minutes and the computer will proceed
with the boot process once it's gotten to the next step you can plug in
the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid (Previous Generation).

The reason I believe this happens is the problem I mentioned earlier
with "EyeTV
Helper"


>- With EyeTV software running – unplug & re-plug – the picture picks up
>where it left off – no problems.
>- Quit EyeTV – unplug & re-plug – EyeTV launches (my preference
>setting) and the picture picks up where it left off – no problems.
>
> You should never have any problems doing this while the device has been
recognised by the computer. but you may have some problems after a reboot


>
>- Unplug EyeTV, restart the iMac and re-plug - EyeTV launches and the
>picture picks up where it left off – no problems.
>
>
if you ever have problems again unplugged the device before shutting down
your computer than re-plug the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid
(Previous Generation) into the computer use the same USB port I mentioned
earlier. if you encounter the same problem mentioned above are follow the
steps mentioned there and then continue on

Alsoif your computer has problems shutting down just unplug the Elgato EyeTV
Hybrid (Previous Generation) and it should continue the shutdown process.
(Did not experience this on my current iMac was on the previous model)


So, touch wood, it all seems to be running OK – thank you VERY MUCH Kyle –
> without your specific order of actions I would have said I had done
> everything there already!! I’m not used to things being quite that touchy.
>

You Are Welcome, I know a lot about problems with EyeTV 2 and 3 and with
the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid. Also I will send you some more information tomorrow
regarding the problems with the MacBook Pro

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[Neil Houghton]

Hi Kyle,

First, thanks for the heads-up on EyeTV3 ­ it would have been a real pain to
pay for the upgrade & then find I had to go back to EyeTV 2 to get it to
work!!

OK ­ finally some progress!!

Forgive the (very) long posting ­ but it may just help clarify the
problems/issues - I composed this email as I progressed ­ so hopefully it
gives a good record of the steps/problems/results:

Starting with Kyles instructions, I gave it a try:

* Uninstall using EyeTV Reporter
* Reboot iMac 
* Check EyeTV no longer in apps folder ­ OK
* Check /Library/Application Support/EyeTV ­ folder still there - delete
* Check ~/Library/Application Support - no EyeTV folder
* Check System preferences, Accounts, login items ­ no EyeTV helper
* Empty trash 
* Re-installed EyeTV 2.5.3
* Launched EyeTV ­ the EyeTV setup assistant starts ­ leave open but do not
proceed at this point
* Check finder:
>>  /Library/Application Support - no EyeTV folder
>>  ~/Library/Application Support - no EyeTV folder
> Presume that this folder is created during the set-up process?
* Check System preferences, Accounts, login items ­ still no EyeTV helper ­
is this perhaps installed during the set-up process
* Check inside the EyeTV application package ­ EyeTV Helper is in the
Resources folder 
* Quit EyeTV 
* Shut down computer
* Unplug all USB devices and then re-plug:
>> Elgato EyeTV Hybrid (Previous Generation) into the USB port closest to the
>> FireWire 800 port.
>> Wired keyboard into another USB port (did not note)
>> UPS USB connection into another USB port (did not note)
* Start up the computer  - EXCEPT it didn¹t start!! - Got the chime, got the
white screen but no ³counting clock² - left it for quite a while but finally
switched off with the power button.

Now I¹m panicking ­ thinking I¹ve bricked my iMac (about 2 weeks after
warranty expired!) - however, I disconnect the EyeTV and UPS USB plugs (just
the keyboard now) and try re-starting ­ and it starts up OK. I run disk
verification and repair permissions (yes, I know it doesn¹t sound like it
was a disk problem ­ it didn¹t get as far as looking for a system disk ­ but
it can¹t hurt eh? - everything looks fine)


Then to make sure the EyeTV hasn¹t just died I try it on the MacBook Pro ­ I
get a repeat of the previous problem where it keeps telling me it is plugged
into a USB 1 port and needs to be plugged into a USB 2 port ­ I¹m finding
this very confusing, system profiler shows me 5 USB busses and 2 USB high
speed busses ­ but it seems that the 2 USB ports get switched between the
busses as the system thinks appropriate ­ eg I plug the EyeTV into a port
and refresh the view and it shows on a USB bus (low speed) - then I remove
it and plug in a flash drive (same port) and refresh the view and it shows
up on a USB high speed bus ­ eject the drive, plug in the EyeTV and refresh
the view and it¹s back on a USB bus (low speed) - I tried this a few time,
in both ports, with the same result. I restarted the computer and tried
again ­ same result. Finally, I shut down the computer, plugged the EyeTV in
and THEN restarted ­ this time the EyeTV shows up on a USB high speed bus
and so EyeTV works fine ­ I change channels and even unplug and re-plug the
EyeTV (with EyeTV running) and there is no problem.

I¹m not sure exactly what the MacBook testing shows/proves but:
* There seems to be some problem with the Macbook connecting the device onto
the right bus 
* Once the EyeTV Hybrid is correctly connected to a USB 2 bus, it is still
working OK


I must admit, after my scare with the iMac, I nearly gave up at this point!
However, I hate to be beaten by a machine ­ so I persevered:

* Shut down iMac 
* Unplug all USB devices and then re-plug:
>> Elgato EyeTV Hybrid into the USB port closest to the FireWire 800 port.
>> Wired keyboard into next USB port.
* Reboot the iMac ­ this time it boots OK
* Check System Profiler ­ the EyeTV is now showing on the USB bus (they are
both high speed on the 27² iMac)
* Open the EyeTV application and I can now proceed with set-up and auto-tune
­ which all works OK.
* Check System preferences, Accounts, login items ­ EyeTV helper is now
there. 
* Check finder:
>>  /Library/Application Support - EyeTV folder now present
>>  ~/Documents/EyeTV Archive folder now present


So, at this point, I know that this particular EyeTV hybrid WILL work with
my 27² i7 iMac ­ but I have none of my other USB devices plugged in. Before
I start adding other USB devices, however, I decide to check if the device
will still be recognised/connected if it is unplugged/re-plugged while the
computer is running (note I have the tuner plugged into the short extension
cable that ElGato provides ­ so I am plugging/unplugging from this cable,
not from the actual port at the back of the computer) :

* With EyeTV software running ­ unplug & re-plug ­ the picture picks up
where it left off ­ no problems.
* Quit EyeTV ­ unplug & re-plug ­ EyeTV launches (my preference setting) and
the picture picks up w

Re: IceTV app - recommended? - and Elgato EyeTV Hy brid/i7 iMac problems

[Kyle Kreusch]

Hi, Neil

OK let's see if I can help.

First: I have never managed to get EyeTV 3 Working with the Elgato EyeTV
Hybrid (Previous Generation) on my 27” i7 iMac. Also I have never gotten it
to work on any other computer and have always had to revert to the last
version of EyeTV 2.
Doesn't really apply to you Neil But I thought I would let you know that
upgrading to EyeTV 3. Most likely will not fix your problem.

Like you I had a problem getting the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid (Previous
Generation) to work on my 27” i7 iMac. but it would work perfectly fine on
other machines as mentioned above.
I did eventually get it working but as the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid
(Previous Generation)
was my dad's, and I got sick of sharing I eventually bought myself a new
one.

As I can't remember exactly what solution I eventually used to get it to
work and my notes are not useful regarding this problem we will have to
start from the beginning. Going from memory the problem is a combination of
not enough power getting supplied to the unit and a problem with "EyeTV
Helper"

I know you have completed this but I would do it again

I would start by running the EyeTV Reporter utility and I would choose the
uninstall option. if the EyeTV 2 Application is still in the applications
folder I would remove it. Once you have completed this step I would make
sure that "EyeTV Helper" has been removed. Navigate to /Library/Application
Support/EyeTV if this folder is here remove it. Now go to system
preferences, Accounts choose your username and remove "EyeTV Helper" from
the login items. Then Restart your computer.

Installation, Download the latest version from <
http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/support/Update-Start/Update-EyeTV-2
>
if you've already done this is not necessary to download a new copy (do not
use EyeTV 2's built-in software updater)

Once you have the updated disk image install the EyeTV 2.5.3 application
into your applications folder. Make sure the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid
(Previous Generation)
is not plugged into your computer launched the EyeTV 2.5.3 application. then
proceed to system preferences, Accounts choose your username make sure a
copy of "EyeTV Helper" is in login items.

Then shut down your computer then plug the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid
(Previous Generation)
into the USB port closest to the FireWire 800 port. start up the computer
and open the EyeTV 2.5.3 application.

if you are lucky everything should be working. if not I will have more for
you later

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[Neil Houghton]

Hi Kyle,

Yes, I tried Ronni¹s suggestion of using Elgato's uninstaller program Eye TV
Reporter to uninstall EyeTV 2.5.3, reboot the iMac and then re-install EyeTV
2.5.3 ­ but it made no difference.

As I said, it seems to me the problem is at a higher level ­ ie the new 27²
i7 iMac does not recognise the old EyeTV hybrid as an attached USB device AT
ALL.

As yet, I have not gotten around to buying a powered USB2 hub and trying the
unit on that.
 

There has been no response from anybody who could confirm that a circa 2006
EyeTV Hybrid WILL work when plugged directly into a Nov 2009 27² i7 iMac
running Snow Leopard.


If anything changes, I will be sure to let the list know.


Cheers



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on 7/12/10 12:48 PM, Kyle Kreusch at kylekreu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Neil
> 
> Sorry for my extremely late reply Neil, Are you still having problems?
> 
> --
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> 
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> Hi Ronni,
>> 
>> First off - there is nothing wrong with the EyeTV Hybrid ­ it will work just
>> fine with my 24² iMac (2.4 GHz Core 2 duo, running OSX 10.5.8 and EyeTV
>> 2.5.3) - however, I am planning on passing this computer on ­ and I want to
>> watch TV on my nice new big 27² iMac ;o)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I checked out the link and also one at Apple ³EyeTV 2.5.3 works with Snow
>> Leopard²
>> 
>> 
>> The fix you refer to seems to be for when EyeTV 2.5.3 won¹t work after
>> upgrading to Snow Leopard ­ which isn¹t really my problem ­ the 27²iMac came
>> with Snow Leopard installed and my instalation of EyeTV 2.5.3 fires up just
>> fine and proceeds through the set-up OK until it gets to the ³Now, plug the
>> EyeTV Hybrid into a USB 2.0 port² stage.
>> 
>> When I plug the EyeTV Hybrid in, the ³Next² key stays greyed out ­ and if I
>> hit the ³Previous² key then I get the message:
>> 
>> ³No hardware is available which supports the TV standards of the selected
>> country² (and, yes, I did select Australia).
>> 
>> At this point, I have no option but to cancel the set-up assistant.
>> 
>> The EyeTV message ³No hardware is available ...²  seems to gel with the fact
>> that System profiler doesn¹t even see the device as attached to the USB hub.
>> 
>> I¹m currently wondering if the USB port is, for some reason, not supplying
>> enough power to fire up the EyeTV unit, which is why it would be good to know
>> if ANYONE can confirm that a circa 2006 EyeTV Hybrid WILL work when plugged
>> directly into a Nov 2009 27² i7 iMac running Snow Leopard.
>> 
>> I¹ve also just discovered a different problem/issue/weirdness with the EyeTV
>> unit when trying to run it on my MacBook Pro ­ as I mentioned in my previous
>> post, the EyeTV shows up in system profiler OK ­ but I just had the following
>> experience:
>> 
>> * Tried to run the EyeTV but it told me I was plugged into a USB1 port - I
>> then tried the other port and it again told me I was plugged into a USB1 port
>> (and system profiler showed the unit on a ³USB bus² rather than a ³USB
>> high-speed bus² - I found this very confusing as I thought both the ports
>> were USB 2!
>> 
>> * However, after confirming the unit was working on my 24² iMac, I tried it
>> later on the MacBook and this time it worked fine ­ in both USB ports ­ and
>> system profiler now showed the unit on a ³USB high-speed bus². I found this
>> EXTREMELY confusing ­ how can the USB ports migrate between the  ³USB bus²
>> and the ³USB high-speed bus² ??!!
>> 
>> However, I don¹t think this has any bearing on the problem with the 27² iMac
>> as system profiler only shows this computer as having ³USB high-speed bus² x
>> 2
>> 
>> I am now wondering if it is worth buying a powered USB2 hub and trying the
>> unit on that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 24/11/10 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Neil,
>>> 
>>> You need to use Elgato's uninstaller program Eye TV Reporter to uninstall
>>> EyeTV 2.5.3. Reboot the MBP, reinstall EyeTV 2.5.3 Copy to Applications
>>> folder).
>>> Entered the activation code, and then it should worked.  
>>> Note: That is if there is nothing wrong with the EyeTV Hybrid. They don't
>>> last forever, I had one die on me a year or so ago.
>>> 
>>> Details on Elgato Systems Technical Support here:
>>> >> leid=3794 
>>> 

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Hi, Neil

Sorry for my extremely late reply Neil, Are you still having problems?

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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:

>  Hi Ronni,
>
> First off - there is nothing wrong with the EyeTV Hybrid – it will work
> just fine with my 24” iMac (2.4 GHz Core 2 duo, running OSX 10.5.8 and EyeTV
> 2.5.3) - however, I am planning on passing this computer on – and I want to
> watch TV on my nice new big 27” iMac ;o)
>
>
>
> I checked out the link and also one at Apple “EyeTV 2.5.3 works with Snow
> Leopard”
> 
>
> The fix you refer to seems to be for when EyeTV 2.5.3 won’t work after
> upgrading to Snow Leopard – which isn’t really my problem – the 27”iMac came
> with Snow Leopard installed and my instalation of EyeTV 2.5.3 fires up just
> fine and proceeds through the set-up OK until it gets to the “Now, plug the
> EyeTV Hybrid into a USB 2.0 port” stage.
>
> When I plug the EyeTV Hybrid in, the “Next” key stays greyed out – and if I
> hit the “Previous” key then I get the message:
>
> “No hardware is available which supports the TV standards of the selected
> country” (and, yes, I did select Australia).
>
> At this point, I have no option but to cancel the set-up assistant.
>
> The EyeTV message “No hardware is available ...”  seems to gel with the
> fact that System profiler doesn’t even see the device as attached to the USB
> hub.
>
> I’m currently wondering if the USB port is, for some reason, not supplying
> enough power to fire up the EyeTV unit, which is why it would be good to
> know if ANYONE can confirm that a circa 2006 EyeTV Hybrid WILL work when
> plugged directly into a Nov 2009 27” i7 iMac running Snow Leopard.
>
> I’ve also just discovered a different problem/issue/weirdness with the
> EyeTV unit when trying to run it on my MacBook Pro – as I mentioned in my
> previous post, the EyeTV shows up in system profiler OK – but I just had the
> following experience:
>
>
>- Tried to run the EyeTV but it told me I was plugged into a USB1 port
>- I then tried the other port and it again told me I was plugged into a 
> USB1
>port (and system profiler showed the unit on a “USB bus” rather than a “USB
>high-speed bus” - I found this very confusing as I thought both the ports
>were USB 2!
>
>
>
>- However, after confirming the unit was working on my 24” iMac, I
>tried it later on the MacBook and this time it worked fine – in both USB
>ports – and system profiler now showed the unit on a “USB high-speed bus”. 
> I
>found this EXTREMELY confusing – how can the USB ports migrate between the
> “USB bus” and the “USB high-speed bus” ??!!
>
>
> However, I don’t think this has any bearing on the problem with the 27”
> iMac as system profiler only shows this computer as having “USB high-speed
> bus” x 2
>
> I am now wondering if it is worth buying a powered USB2 hub and trying the
> unit on that.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Neil
> --
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
>
>
>
> on 24/11/10 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> You need to use Elgato's uninstaller program Eye TV Reporter to uninstall
> EyeTV 2.5.3. Reboot the MBP, reinstall EyeTV 2.5.3 Copy to Applications
> folder).
> Entered the activation code, and then it should worked.
> *Note:* That is if there is nothing wrong with the EyeTV Hybrid. They
> don't last forever, I had one die on me a year or so ago.
>
> Details on Elgato Systems Technical Support here:
>  >
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> On 24/11/2010, at 10:09 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> As I said to Kyle, this is an old unit which I bought it from Daniel in
> September 2006 - so it came with EyeTV2 - which I have updated as far as
> EyeTV 2.5.3.
>
> I didn't pay to upgrade to EyeTV 3 because I wasn't using EyeTV much after
> I
> got a digital TV - partly because my computer has moved rooms and the
> reception with the supplied antenna was marginal - this was all with the
> old
> iMac, as I say, the new iMac doesn't even recognise the EyeTV as an
> attached
> USB device.
>
> Just as a further comparison, I tried plugging the EyeTV into my MacBook
> Pro, running Leopard - it shows up fine in system profi

Re: IceTV app - recommended? - and Elgato EyeTV Hy brid/i7 iMac problems

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ronni,

First off - there is nothing wrong with the EyeTV Hybrid ­ it will work just
fine with my 24² iMac (2.4 GHz Core 2 duo, running OSX 10.5.8 and EyeTV
2.5.3) - however, I am planning on passing this computer on ­ and I want to
watch TV on my nice new big 27² iMac ;o)



I checked out the link and also one at Apple ³EyeTV 2.5.3 works with Snow
Leopard²


The fix you refer to seems to be for when EyeTV 2.5.3 won¹t work after
upgrading to Snow Leopard ­ which isn¹t really my problem ­ the 27²iMac came
with Snow Leopard installed and my instalation of EyeTV 2.5.3 fires up just
fine and proceeds through the set-up OK until it gets to the ³Now, plug the
EyeTV Hybrid into a USB 2.0 port² stage.

When I plug the EyeTV Hybrid in, the ³Next² key stays greyed out ­ and if I
hit the ³Previous² key then I get the message:

³No hardware is available which supports the TV standards of the selected
country² (and, yes, I did select Australia).

At this point, I have no option but to cancel the set-up assistant.

The EyeTV message ³No hardware is available ...²  seems to gel with the fact
that System profiler doesn¹t even see the device as attached to the USB hub.

I¹m currently wondering if the USB port is, for some reason, not supplying
enough power to fire up the EyeTV unit, which is why it would be good to
know if ANYONE can confirm that a circa 2006 EyeTV Hybrid WILL work when
plugged directly into a Nov 2009 27² i7 iMac running Snow Leopard.

I¹ve also just discovered a different problem/issue/weirdness with the EyeTV
unit when trying to run it on my MacBook Pro ­ as I mentioned in my previous
post, the EyeTV shows up in system profiler OK ­ but I just had the
following experience:

* Tried to run the EyeTV but it told me I was plugged into a USB1 port - I
then tried the other port and it again told me I was plugged into a USB1
port (and system profiler showed the unit on a ³USB bus² rather than a ³USB
high-speed bus² - I found this very confusing as I thought both the ports
were USB 2!

* However, after confirming the unit was working on my 24² iMac, I tried it
later on the MacBook and this time it worked fine ­ in both USB ports ­ and
system profiler now showed the unit on a ³USB high-speed bus². I found this
EXTREMELY confusing ­ how can the USB ports migrate between the  ³USB bus²
and the ³USB high-speed bus² ??!!

However, I don¹t think this has any bearing on the problem with the 27² iMac
as system profiler only shows this computer as having ³USB high-speed bus² x
2

I am now wondering if it is worth buying a powered USB2 hub and trying the
unit on that.


Cheers



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on 24/11/10 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> You need to use Elgato's uninstaller program Eye TV Reporter to uninstall
> EyeTV 2.5.3. Reboot the MBP, reinstall EyeTV 2.5.3 Copy to Applications
> folder).
> Entered the activation code, and then it should worked.
> Note: That is if there is nothing wrong with the EyeTV Hybrid. They don't last
> forever, I had one die on me a year or so ago.
> 
> Details on Elgato Systems Technical Support here:
>  id=3794 
>  barticleid=3794> 
>  id=3794 >  >
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 24/11/2010, at 10:09 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Ray,
>> 
>> As I said to Kyle, this is an old unit which I bought it from Daniel in
>> September 2006 - so it came with EyeTV2 - which I have updated as far as
>> EyeTV 2.5.3.
>> 
>> I didn't pay to upgrade to EyeTV 3 because I wasn't using EyeTV much after I
>> got a digital TV - partly because my computer has moved rooms and the
>> reception with the supplied antenna was marginal - this was all with the old
>> iMac, as I say, the new iMac doesn't even recognise the EyeTV as an attached
>> USB device.
>> 
>> Just as a further comparison, I tried plugging the EyeTV into my MacBook
>> Pro, running Leopard - it shows up fine in system profiler plugged into
>> either of the USB ports (I didn't actually try configuring the EyeTV on the
>> laptop - but the point is the system could "see" it).
>> 
>> So, it would seem to me, the problem is either down to Snow Leopard or the
>> i7 iMac hardware configuration (and possibly the compatibility of this older
>> EyeTV unit with it/them) - I don't think the EyeTV software is the issue if
>> the device is not even showing as an attached USB device in system profiler.
>> 
>> I guess it would be good to know if ANYONE has got a circa 2006 EyeTV Hybrid
>> working OK and plugged into a 27" i7 iMac (November 2009 vintage, actually).
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil




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Neil,

Here is my current experience with my EyeTV hybrid:

1  My EyeTV Hybrid's tuner is An Xceive XC3028 1,0 2,7; quite an old one. It 
shows up in System Profiler as WinTV HVR-900.

2 My Hybrid receives well when I connect it to my PacPro5,1 under MacOS 10.6.5, 
regardless of whether I'm using EyeTV 2.5.3 or EyeTV 3.4.3. In Fremantle I'm 
receiving channels 6, 8, 11, 12, 29 and 32. These digital frequencies contain a 
total of 16 TV substreams and 4 radio substreams; which is every substream 
available in the Perth area.

2 The same Hybrid receives all of the channels and their substreams when I 
connect it to my MacMini1,1 under MacOS 10.4.11, but only when using EyeTV 
2.5.3. I have discovered that EyeTV 3.4.3 will only run under MacOS 10.5.8 or 
later, so am currently updating the MacMini to MacOS 10.5.8.

From the above it seems that your Hybrid should work on your i7 iMac, 
regardless of whether you're using EyeTV 2.5.3 or EyeTV 3.4.3, because you are 
using MacOS 10.5.8 or better as specified for EyeTV 3.4.3. This indicates some 
other problem. Have fun finding it.

As far as schedules are concerned, I'm quite happy with the DVB schedule that 
the EyeTV app supplies. It's free and up-to-date and generally gives me the 
programs for the next 7 days, except for WestTV, who issue patchy information. 
If, however, you want a TV schedule on your iPhone, or for more that a week 
ahead, then an Ice TV subscription is the way to go.

On 23/11/2010, at 7:01 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I don't subscribe to the paid IceTV service because, at present, I'm not
> recording TV.
> 
> My Elgato EyeTV Hybrid refuses to work with my i7 iMac running Snow leopard
> - doesn't even show up as a USB device in system profiler - even though it
> still works fine with the older core 2 duo iMac running Leopard.
> 
> Can anyone shine any light on the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid/i7 iMac problem - I
> wondered if it was a USB power issue, but I've tried it in various USB
> sockets (both on the back of the iMac and on the keyboard) - though I don't
> currently have a powered external USB hub to try.
> 
> Anyway, even though I'm not recording, I use the IceTV dashboard widget all
> the time to check what's on/about to start on TV and find it very
> convenient.
> 
> Today, on one of IceTV's emails, I noticed that there was a free IceTV app:
> 
> I thought this looked pretty good but, when I went to the app store, I saw
> that of the 3956 reviews for the current version - 2304 of them had given it
> the minimum one star rating. I know the whingers are often more vocal than
> the satisfied users - but this does seem an unusually high proportion!!
> 
> So, I thought I'd see how many WAMUG list members use this app and would
> like to express their love/hate experiences with it ;o)
> 
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com

Regards,

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Thanks for that Ronni (and thanks to Shayne for his feedback).

OK, if it meets your standards Ronni, I feel safe to give it a go ;o)



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on 24/11/10 11:00 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> 
> 
> On 24/11/2010, at 10:09 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
 
 Today, on one of IceTV's emails, I noticed that there was a free IceTV app:
 
 I thought this looked pretty good but, when I went to the app store, I saw
 that of the 3956 reviews for the current version - 2304 of them had given
 it
 the minimum one star rating.
> 
> Hi Neil,
> 
> I haven't read any of the reviews, as I have never had any problems with IceTV
> and I've been using it and all it's apps for years.
> 
> I've had the IceTV app on my iPhone (since it was first released) & when they
> released a version for iPad I got that as well.
> I have IceTV widget on my computers. I have never had a problem with any of
> the IceTV apps or widget.
>  
> I've had an account with IceTV ever since they commenced business.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
> 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
> 
> OS X 10.6.4 Snow Leopard
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)






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On 24/11/2010, at 10:09 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

>>> 
>>> Today, on one of IceTV's emails, I noticed that there was a free IceTV app:
>>> 
>>> I thought this looked pretty good but, when I went to the app store, I saw
>>> that of the 3956 reviews for the current version - 2304 of them had given it
>>> the minimum one star rating.

Hi Neil,

I haven't read any of the reviews, as I have never had any problems with IceTV 
and I've been using it and all it's apps for years.

I've had the IceTV app on my iPhone (since it was first released) & when they 
released a version for iPad I got that as well.
I have IceTV widget on my computers. I have never had a problem with any of the 
IceTV apps or widget.
 
I've had an account with IceTV ever since they commenced business.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
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Hi Neil,

You need to use Elgato's uninstaller program Eye TV Reporter to uninstall EyeTV 
2.5.3. Reboot the MBP, reinstall EyeTV 2.5.3 Copy to Applications folder).
Entered the activation code, and then it should worked.  
Note: That is if there is nothing wrong with the EyeTV Hybrid. They don't last 
forever, I had one die on me a year or so ago.

Details on Elgato Systems Technical Support here:


Cheers,
Ronni

On 24/11/2010, at 10:09 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> 
> Hi Ray,
> 
> As I said to Kyle, this is an old unit which I bought it from Daniel in
> September 2006 - so it came with EyeTV2 - which I have updated as far as
> EyeTV 2.5.3.
> 
> I didn't pay to upgrade to EyeTV 3 because I wasn't using EyeTV much after I
> got a digital TV - partly because my computer has moved rooms and the
> reception with the supplied antenna was marginal - this was all with the old
> iMac, as I say, the new iMac doesn't even recognise the EyeTV as an attached
> USB device.
> 
> Just as a further comparison, I tried plugging the EyeTV into my MacBook
> Pro, running Leopard - it shows up fine in system profiler plugged into
> either of the USB ports (I didn't actually try configuring the EyeTV on the
> laptop - but the point is the system could "see" it).
> 
> So, it would seem to me, the problem is either down to Snow Leopard or the
> i7 iMac hardware configuration (and possibly the compatibility of this older
> EyeTV unit with it/them) - I don't think the EyeTV software is the issue if
> the device is not even showing as an attached USB device in system profiler.
> 
> I guess it would be good to know if ANYONE has got a circa 2006 EyeTV Hybrid
> working OK and plugged into a 27" i7 iMac (November 2009 vintage, actually).
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> on 23/11/10 8:03 PM, Ray Forma at r...@smartchat.net.au wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Neil,
>> 
>> I have today for the first time tested my EyeTV hybrid on my MacPro5,1 under
>> MacOS 10.6.5 using EyeTV 3.4.3 and it worked perfectly. I find that the DVB
>> program information broadcast by the TV stations themselves better than the
>> info sent by ICETV. Just set up the EyeTV software to collect the DVB program
>> data from the transmissions, and then at any time you can look at the program
>> guide, that you can make as comprehensive as you wish. Clicking on a 
>> program's
>> red button sets it ready for recording; simple!
>> 
>> You don't give any vital details such as the version of EyeTV software that
>> you are using, so I can't give you any useful advice about your problems with
>> EyeTV on the i7 iMac. I also have EyeTV 2.5.3 so, if necessary, can try that
>> under MacOS 10.6.5 when you have given me some more useful info.
>> 
>> My EyeTV Hybrid is now back on the MacMini1,1 under MacOS 10.4.1, with EyeTV
>> 2.5.3, that runs the main TV setup in our house. Tomorrow it gets updated to
>> EyeTV 3.4.3. Hope it keeps working!
>> 
>> On 23/11/2010, at 7:01 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I don't subscribe to the paid IceTV service because, at present, I'm not
>>> recording TV.
>>> 
>>> My Elgato EyeTV Hybrid refuses to work with my i7 iMac running Snow leopard
>>> - doesn't even show up as a USB device in system profiler - even though it
>>> still works fine with the older core 2 duo iMac running Leopard.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone shine any light on the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid/i7 iMac problem - I
>>> wondered if it was a USB power issue, but I've tried it in various USB
>>> sockets (both on the back of the iMac and on the keyboard) - though I don't
>>> currently have a powered external USB hub to try.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, even though I'm not recording, I use the IceTV dashboard widget all
>>> the time to check what's on/about to start on TV and find it very
>>> convenient.
>>> 
>>> Today, on one of IceTV's emails, I noticed that there was a free IceTV app:
>>> 
>>> I thought this looked pretty good but, when I went to the app store, I saw
>>> that of the 3956 reviews for the current version - 2304 of them had given it
>>> the minimum one star rating. I know the whingers are often more vocal than
>>> the satisfied users - but this does seem an unusually high proportion!!
>>> 
>>> So, I thought I'd see how many WAMUG list members use this app and would
>>> like to express their love/hate experiences with it ;o)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TIA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> -- 
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>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>> Email: n...@possumology.com
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Hi Ray,

As I said to Kyle, this is an old unit which I bought it from Daniel in
September 2006 - so it came with EyeTV2 - which I have updated as far as
EyeTV 2.5.3.

I didn't pay to upgrade to EyeTV 3 because I wasn't using EyeTV much after I
got a digital TV - partly because my computer has moved rooms and the
reception with the supplied antenna was marginal - this was all with the old
iMac, as I say, the new iMac doesn't even recognise the EyeTV as an attached
USB device.

Just as a further comparison, I tried plugging the EyeTV into my MacBook
Pro, running Leopard - it shows up fine in system profiler plugged into
either of the USB ports (I didn't actually try configuring the EyeTV on the
laptop - but the point is the system could "see" it).

So, it would seem to me, the problem is either down to Snow Leopard or the
i7 iMac hardware configuration (and possibly the compatibility of this older
EyeTV unit with it/them) - I don't think the EyeTV software is the issue if
the device is not even showing as an attached USB device in system profiler.

I guess it would be good to know if ANYONE has got a circa 2006 EyeTV Hybrid
working OK and plugged into a 27" i7 iMac (November 2009 vintage, actually).


Cheers




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on 23/11/10 8:03 PM, Ray Forma at r...@smartchat.net.au wrote:

> 
> Neil,
> 
> I have today for the first time tested my EyeTV hybrid on my MacPro5,1 under
> MacOS 10.6.5 using EyeTV 3.4.3 and it worked perfectly. I find that the DVB
> program information broadcast by the TV stations themselves better than the
> info sent by ICETV. Just set up the EyeTV software to collect the DVB program
> data from the transmissions, and then at any time you can look at the program
> guide, that you can make as comprehensive as you wish. Clicking on a program's
> red button sets it ready for recording; simple!
> 
> You don't give any vital details such as the version of EyeTV software that
> you are using, so I can't give you any useful advice about your problems with
> EyeTV on the i7 iMac. I also have EyeTV 2.5.3 so, if necessary, can try that
> under MacOS 10.6.5 when you have given me some more useful info.
> 
> My EyeTV Hybrid is now back on the MacMini1,1 under MacOS 10.4.1, with EyeTV
> 2.5.3, that runs the main TV setup in our house. Tomorrow it gets updated to
> EyeTV 3.4.3. Hope it keeps working!
> 
> On 23/11/2010, at 7:01 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I don't subscribe to the paid IceTV service because, at present, I'm not
>> recording TV.
>> 
>> My Elgato EyeTV Hybrid refuses to work with my i7 iMac running Snow leopard
>> - doesn't even show up as a USB device in system profiler - even though it
>> still works fine with the older core 2 duo iMac running Leopard.
>> 
>> Can anyone shine any light on the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid/i7 iMac problem - I
>> wondered if it was a USB power issue, but I've tried it in various USB
>> sockets (both on the back of the iMac and on the keyboard) - though I don't
>> currently have a powered external USB hub to try.
>> 
>> Anyway, even though I'm not recording, I use the IceTV dashboard widget all
>> the time to check what's on/about to start on TV and find it very
>> convenient.
>> 
>> Today, on one of IceTV's emails, I noticed that there was a free IceTV app:
>> 
>> I thought this looked pretty good but, when I went to the app store, I saw
>> that of the 3956 reviews for the current version - 2304 of them had given it
>> the minimum one star rating. I know the whingers are often more vocal than
>> the satisfied users - but this does seem an unusually high proportion!!
>> 
>> So, I thought I'd see how many WAMUG list members use this app and would
>> like to express their love/hate experiences with it ;o)
>> 
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Hi Kyle,

Yes, this is an old one ­ I bought it from Daniel in September 2006 (though
it certainly hasn¹t been worked very hard) ­ and yes, it does have what
looks like an LED on the opposite side to the mini-usb where you connect the
video lead.

Does that shed any light on the situation?


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on 23/11/10 7:27 PM, Kyle Kreusch at kylekreu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Neil
> 
> just a quick question before I can help how old is your Elgato EyeTV
> Hybrid. Does it have what appears to be a light on the top of the unit or on
> one of the sides
> 
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Neil,

I have today for the first time tested my EyeTV hybrid on my MacPro5,1 under 
MacOS 10.6.5 using EyeTV 3.4.3 and it worked perfectly. I find that the DVB 
program information broadcast by the TV stations themselves better than the 
info sent by ICETV. Just set up the EyeTV software to collect the DVB program 
data from the transmissions, and then at any time you can look at the program 
guide, that you can make as comprehensive as you wish. Clicking on a program's 
red button sets it ready for recording; simple!

You don't give any vital details such as the version of EyeTV software that you 
are using, so I can't give you any useful advice about your problems with EyeTV 
on the i7 iMac. I also have EyeTV 2.5.3 so, if necessary, can try that under 
MacOS 10.6.5 when you have given me some more useful info.

My EyeTV Hybrid is now back on the MacMini1,1 under MacOS 10.4.1, with EyeTV 
2.5.3, that runs the main TV setup in our house. Tomorrow it gets updated to 
EyeTV 3.4.3. Hope it keeps working!

On 23/11/2010, at 7:01 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I don't subscribe to the paid IceTV service because, at present, I'm not
> recording TV.
> 
> My Elgato EyeTV Hybrid refuses to work with my i7 iMac running Snow leopard
> - doesn't even show up as a USB device in system profiler - even though it
> still works fine with the older core 2 duo iMac running Leopard.
> 
> Can anyone shine any light on the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid/i7 iMac problem - I
> wondered if it was a USB power issue, but I've tried it in various USB
> sockets (both on the back of the iMac and on the keyboard) - though I don't
> currently have a powered external USB hub to try.
> 
> Anyway, even though I'm not recording, I use the IceTV dashboard widget all
> the time to check what's on/about to start on TV and find it very
> convenient.
> 
> Today, on one of IceTV's emails, I noticed that there was a free IceTV app:
> 
> I thought this looked pretty good but, when I went to the app store, I saw
> that of the 3956 reviews for the current version - 2304 of them had given it
> the minimum one star rating. I know the whingers are often more vocal than
> the satisfied users - but this does seem an unusually high proportion!!
> 
> So, I thought I'd see how many WAMUG list members use this app and would
> like to express their love/hate experiences with it ;o)
> 
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
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> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
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[S Beach]

Ice TV iPhone app works well.

I have not used any other similar service to compare it to but it works ok
for me on iPhone 4. I'm not sure how it would work without a subscription
but it is handy with a subscription to be able to check the guide and set a
program to record if I want it to and not at home to set it on the media
centre.

>From my experience I'd say its safe to give it a try and see what you think.

Regards

Shayne Beach


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I don't subscribe to the paid IceTV service because, at present, I'm not
> recording TV.
>
> My Elgato EyeTV Hybrid refuses to work with my i7 iMac running Snow leopard
> - doesn't even show up as a USB device in system profiler - even though it
> still works fine with the older core 2 duo iMac running Leopard.
>
> Can anyone shine any light on the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid/i7 iMac problem - I
> wondered if it was a USB power issue, but I've tried it in various USB
> sockets (both on the back of the iMac and on the keyboard) - though I don't
> currently have a powered external USB hub to try.
>
> Anyway, even though I'm not recording, I use the IceTV dashboard widget all
> the time to check what's on/about to start on TV and find it very
> convenient.
>
> Today, on one of IceTV's emails, I noticed that there was a free IceTV app:
> 
> I thought this looked pretty good but, when I went to the app store, I saw
> that of the 3956 reviews for the current version - 2304 of them had given
> it
> the minimum one star rating. I know the whingers are often more vocal than
> the satisfied users - but this does seem an unusually high proportion!!
>
> So, I thought I'd see how many WAMUG list members use this app and would
> like to express their love/hate experiences with it ;o)
>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
> Neil
> --
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> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
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>
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Hi Neil

just a quick question before I can help how old is your Elgato EyeTV
Hybrid. Does it have what appears to be a light on the top of the unit or on
one of the sides

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