Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Hello Steven, I'm having an enforced Medical Break from WAMUG, but have given you a suggestion below. On 13/10/2010, at 8:44 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks for your help on this Ronni. I followed your suggestions through, and after a few attempts the back up seemed to get through things and all was good. Throwing things back to the group once again, I have a new TC related problem. Following relocation, I'm now on an Optus cable connection. I have an Optus-supplied NETGEAR CVG824G wireless cable modem to connect to the internet. All Macs talk wirelessly to the CVG824G just fine. I've connected the TC to the CVG824G via ethernet cable and the WAN port on the TC. As far as I know, the Macs should be able to back up to it that way. I can see the TC via Airport Utility, a delightful green dot appears next to the TC image. I had an orange dot initially, however I changed 'Connection Sharing' to 'Share a public IP address' from 'Distribute a range of IP addresses' (an overhang from trying to get round a single computer connection in a hotel), and now all seems fine. But … In Airport Utility under 'Internet' - Internet Connection - Connect Using: Ethernet Connection Sharing: OFF (Bridge Mode). Cheers, Ronni When I 'Back Up Now' the message my Mac throws up after a couple of minutes is ... Time Machine could not complete the backup. The backup disk is not available. Time Machine Buddy says ... --- Starting standard backup Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://myfirstname%mylastn...@time-capsule.local/Data NetAuthConnectToServerSync failed with error: 64 for url: afp://myfirstname%20mylastn...@time-capsule.local/Data Backup failed with error: 19 --- Any clues? Many thanks, Steven On 30/09/2010, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your internal HD may not match the hidden File System Event Database that OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed since the last backup and needs to be copied. Since it is untrustable, TM must examine every directory (folder) on your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of course, a lengthy procedure. This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes normally. If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run. But Firstly: 1. Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System Preferences Spotlight Privacy. 2. In System Preferences Energy Saver make sure you don't have selected Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible. Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to Never as well. Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the computer too much while this backup is occurring. Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish. If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups. When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc. Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight. I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message up on the web led me to this page ... http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... which seemed to be about the problem I was having. The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Thanks Ronni. Ahead of your email I ended up connecting my MBP directly to the TC (via ethernet) and continued to get partial backups followed by varying error messages. I connected an iMac directly to the TC as well, same problem. Even took the TC to a service shop, because a search of the internet indicated the problem could be the software not communicating with the hard disk, but the service shop couldn't see a problem. The TC was reset, tried backing up, more error messages. My latest move has been to erase the TC hard disk completely, and as I type it's 50% through a full back up, which is the most it's got to. A shame because I've lost all historical backups, but I was out of options. The web is full of reports about unresolved TC problems, TCs working fine then suddenly not, seemingly since the introduction of 10.5. Cheers, Steven On 16/10/2010, at 10:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hello Steven, I'm having an enforced Medical Break from WAMUG, but have given you a suggestion below. On 13/10/2010, at 8:44 PM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks for your help on this Ronni. I followed your suggestions through, and after a few attempts the back up seemed to get through things and all was good. Throwing things back to the group once again, I have a new TC related problem. Following relocation, I'm now on an Optus cable connection. I have an Optus-supplied NETGEAR CVG824G wireless cable modem to connect to the internet. All Macs talk wirelessly to the CVG824G just fine. I've connected the TC to the CVG824G via ethernet cable and the WAN port on the TC. As far as I know, the Macs should be able to back up to it that way. I can see the TC via Airport Utility, a delightful green dot appears next to the TC image. I had an orange dot initially, however I changed 'Connection Sharing' to 'Share a public IP address' from 'Distribute a range of IP addresses' (an overhang from trying to get round a single computer connection in a hotel), and now all seems fine. But … In Airport Utility under 'Internet' - Internet Connection - Connect Using: Ethernet Connection Sharing: OFF (Bridge Mode). Cheers, Ronni When I 'Back Up Now' the message my Mac throws up after a couple of minutes is ... Time Machine could not complete the backup. The backup disk is not available. Time Machine Buddy says ... --- Starting standard backup Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://myfirstname%mylastn...@time-capsule.local/Data NetAuthConnectToServerSync failed with error: 64 for url: afp://myfirstname%20mylastn...@time-capsule.local/Data Backup failed with error: 19 --- Any clues? Many thanks, Steven On 30/09/2010, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your internal HD may not match the hidden File System Event Database that OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed since the last backup and needs to be copied. Since it is untrustable, TM must examine every directory (folder) on your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of course, a lengthy procedure. This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes normally. If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run. But Firstly: 1. Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System Preferences Spotlight Privacy. 2. In System Preferences Energy Saver make sure you don't have selected Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible. Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to Never as well. Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the computer too much while this backup is occurring. Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish. If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups. When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc. Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Thanks for your help on this Ronni. I followed your suggestions through, and after a few attempts the back up seemed to get through things and all was good. Throwing things back to the group once again, I have a new TC related problem. Following relocation, I'm now on an Optus cable connection. I have an Optus-supplied NETGEAR CVG824G wireless cable modem to connect to the internet. All Macs talk wirelessly to the CVG824G just fine. I've connected the TC to the CVG824G via ethernet cable and the WAN port on the TC. As far as I know, the Macs should be able to back up to it that way. I can see the TC via Airport Utility, a delightful green dot appears next to the TC image. I had an orange dot initially, however I changed 'Connection Sharing' to 'Share a public IP address' from 'Distribute a range of IP addresses' (an overhang from trying to get round a single computer connection in a hotel), and now all seems fine. But ... When I 'Back Up Now' the message my Mac throws up after a couple of minutes is ... Time Machine could not complete the backup. The backup disk is not available. Time Machine Buddy says ... --- Starting standard backup Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://myfirstname%mylastn...@time-capsule.local/Data NetAuthConnectToServerSync failed with error: 64 for url: afp://myfirstname%20mylastn...@time-capsule.local/Data Backup failed with error: 19 --- Any clues? Many thanks, Steven On 30/09/2010, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your internal HD may not match the hidden File System Event Database that OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed since the last backup and needs to be copied. Since it is untrustable, TM must examine every directory (folder) on your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of course, a lengthy procedure. This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes normally. If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run. But Firstly: 1. Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System Preferences Spotlight Privacy. 2. In System Preferences Energy Saver make sure you don't have selected Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible. Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to Never as well. Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the computer too much while this backup is occurring. Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish. If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups. When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc. Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight. I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message up on the web led me to this page ... http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... which seemed to be about the problem I was having. The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight directory seems to make sense, and a better option than erasing the Time Capsule (which may end up being necessary if I can't get Time Capsule to index Spotlight again). Regards your questions Ronni ... Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? Yes. Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder?
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Yep, that's the one I have. Doesn't seem to show it's name. On 30/09/2010, at 9:23 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, As I mentioned below in my reply to Steven, Applications Utilities Console App - System logs. But if you want a Widget to show the system logs: Time Machine Buddy: http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/status/timemachinebuddy.html Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 12:30 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Ok, I am interested in this thread and watching with interest. Is the Widget noted below something I could use to monitor my TM backups? There isn’t any indication of the exact part of the process that’s going on unless opening TM preferences and watching the progress bar – but still not much info about what is really going on. How do I get this Widget? Is it something users recommend I DON’T use? Regards Peter. From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 12:08 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume' Hi Steven, Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your internal HD may not match the hidden File System Event Database that OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed since the last backup and needs to be copied. Since it is untrustable, TM must examine every directory (folder) on your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of course, a lengthy procedure. This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes normally. If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run. But Firstly: 1. Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System Preferences Spotlight Privacy. 2. In System Preferences Energy Saver make sure you don't have selected Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible. Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to Never as well. Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the computer too much while this backup is occurring. Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish. If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups. When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc. Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight. I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message up on the web led me to this page ... http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... which seemed to be about the problem I was having. The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight directory seems to make sense, and a better option than erasing the Time Capsule (which may end up being necessary if I can't get Time Capsule to index Spotlight again). Regards your questions Ronni ... Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? Yes. Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder? Yes. Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences Time Machine? Yes. Do Attempts to back up get backup disk is not available message? More detail in a second. Or is your problem Time Capsule gets stuck at Preparing Backup… ? No. Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1? Yes. As I type, a back up is 20GB through a 104GB back up. I have a 250GB hard disk with 100GB available. I don't know why
Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
My Macbook Pro isn't backing up to Time Capsule. From this page http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... Glenn Carter refers to the following string for Terminal ... sudo rm -ri /path_to_volume/.Spotlight-V100 where /path_to_volume is the path of the volume in question. To replace 'path_to_volume' I've tried Volumes/Time Machine Backups Volumes/Data Volumes/Data/afp://Time Capsule._afpovertcp._tcp.local/Data/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle ...but all give me No such file or directory. Can anyone please suggest what I should be using as the Terminal command? Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
On 30/09/2010, at 1:08 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: My Macbook Pro isn't backing up to Time Capsule. From this page http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... Glenn Carter refers to the following string for Terminal ... sudo rm -ri /path_to_volume/.Spotlight-V100 where /path_to_volume is the path of the volume in question. To replace 'path_to_volume' I've tried Volumes/Time Machine Backups Volumes/Data Volumes/Data/afp://Time Capsule._afpovertcp._tcp.local/Data/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle ...but all give me No such file or directory. Can anyone please suggest what I should be using as the Terminal command? Cheers, Steven This is extremely difficult to answer without having direct access to your system. One way of sorting out the /path_to_volume is to open a Terminal window, then type cd at the prompt (note: include the space character after cd) then drag the icon of your Time Capsule disk onto the Terminal Window, and press return. If you then type pwd you will see the correct path to the Time Capsule device. The command you supply is puzzling. It literally says recursively remove all files with the name '.Spotlight-V100' from the volume in question, and ask me each time before deleting. I'm not sure how this will help. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Hi Steven One of the cool things you can do with Terminal is drop files into the Terminal window and it will give you the unix path. If you're able to mount your Time Capsule volume using the GUI you might be able to determine the path to it by simply dragging and dropping the icon for it on to the terminal window. Hope this helps. Andrew Quoting Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au: My Macbook Pro isn't backing up to Time Capsule. From this page http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... Glenn Carter refers to the following string for Terminal ... sudo rm -ri /path_to_volume/.Spotlight-V100 where /path_to_volume is the path of the volume in question. To replace 'path_to_volume' I've tried Volumes/Time Machine Backups Volumes/Data Volumes/Data/afp://Time Capsule._afpovertcp._tcp.local/Data/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle ...but all give me No such file or directory. Can anyone please suggest what I should be using as the Terminal command? Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Andrew McColl ski...@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
On 30/09/2010, at 8:19 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 30/09/2010, at 1:08 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: My Macbook Pro isn't backing up to Time Capsule. From this page http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... Glenn Carter refers to the following string for Terminal ... sudo rm -ri /path_to_volume/.Spotlight-V100 where /path_to_volume is the path of the volume in question. To replace 'path_to_volume' I've tried Volumes/Time Machine Backups Volumes/Data Volumes/Data/afp://Time Capsule._afpovertcp._tcp.local/Data/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle ...but all give me No such file or directory. Can anyone please suggest what I should be using as the Terminal command? Cheers, Steven This is extremely difficult to answer without having direct access to your system. One way of sorting out the /path_to_volume is to open a Terminal window, then type cd at the prompt (note: include the space character after cd) then drag the icon of your Time Capsule disk onto the Terminal Window, and press return. If you then type pwd you will see the correct path to the Time Capsule device. The command you supply is puzzling. It literally says recursively remove all files with the name '.Spotlight-V100' from the volume in question, and ask me each time before deleting. I'm not sure how this will help. Hi Steven, I agree with Peter, I fail to see this command helping. We need some more information to be able to give any constructive assistance. Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder? Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences Time Machine? Do Attempts to back up get backup disk is not available message? Or is your problem Time Capsule gets stuck at Preparing Backup… ? Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1? Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight. I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message up on the web led me to this page ... http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... which seemed to be about the problem I was having. The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight directory seems to make sense, and a better option than erasing the Time Capsule (which may end up being necessary if I can't get Time Capsule to index Spotlight again). Regards your questions Ronni ... Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? Yes. Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder? Yes. Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences Time Machine? Yes. Do Attempts to back up get backup disk is not available message? More detail in a second. Or is your problem Time Capsule gets stuck at Preparing Backup… ? No. Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1? Yes. As I type, a back up is 20GB through a 104GB back up. I have a 250GB hard disk with 100GB available. I don't know why the back up is so large. The widget I spoke of gave recent error details as ... --- Starting standard backup Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://steven%20know...@time-capsule.local/Data Mounted network destination using URL: afp://steven%20know...@time-capsule.local/Data QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN Disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db| No pre-backup thinning needed: 118.85 GB requested (including padding), 133.81 GB available Copied 19.6 GB of 96.5 GB, 73391 of 183430 items Stopping backup. Error: (-43) SrcErr:NO Copying /users/steven/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/NML2NDeviceObserver_2010-09-29-193147_MacBook-Pro-2.crash to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/MacBook Pro (2)/2010-09-28-085307.inProgress/***----/Macintosh HD/Users/steven/Library/Logs/CrashReporter Copied 88263 files (19.9 GB) from volume Macintosh HD. Copy stage failed with error:11 Backup failed with error: 11 Ejected Time Machine disk image. Ejected Time Machine network volume. --- Those asterisks I've manually included, overtyping a code I thought may be private. That backup underway has just failed, with error message in widget showing --- Starting standard backup Network destination already mounted at: /Volumes/Data-1 QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN Disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db| --- I've tried the suggestions re identifying the path, still no success on that note. Happy to hear other suggestions for a fix, but ultimately I guess I may have to wipe Time Capsule. Cheers, Steven On 30/09/2010, at 5:21 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 30/09/2010, at 8:19 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 30/09/2010, at 1:08 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: My Macbook Pro isn't backing up to Time Capsule. From this page http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... Glenn Carter refers to the following string for Terminal ... sudo rm -ri /path_to_volume/.Spotlight-V100 where /path_to_volume is the path of the volume in question. To replace 'path_to_volume' I've tried Volumes/Time Machine Backups Volumes/Data Volumes/Data/afp://Time Capsule._afpovertcp._tcp.local/Data/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle ...but all give me No such file or directory. Can anyone please suggest what I should be using as the Terminal command? Cheers, Steven This is extremely difficult to answer without having direct access to your system. One way of sorting out the /path_to_volume is to open a Terminal window, then type cd at the prompt (note: include the space character after cd) then drag the icon of your Time Capsule disk onto the Terminal Window, and press return. If you then type
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Hi Steven, Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your internal HD may not match the hidden File System Event Database that OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed since the last backup and needs to be copied. Since it is untrustable, TM must examine every directory (folder) on your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of course, a lengthy procedure. This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes normally. If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run. But Firstly: 1. Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System Preferences Spotlight Privacy. 2. In System Preferences Energy Saver make sure you don't have selected Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible. Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to Never as well. Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the computer too much while this backup is occurring. Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish. If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups. When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc. Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight. I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message up on the web led me to this page ... http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... which seemed to be about the problem I was having. The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight directory seems to make sense, and a better option than erasing the Time Capsule (which may end up being necessary if I can't get Time Capsule to index Spotlight again). Regards your questions Ronni ... Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? Yes. Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder? Yes. Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences Time Machine? Yes. Do Attempts to back up get backup disk is not available message? More detail in a second. Or is your problem Time Capsule gets stuck at Preparing Backup… ? No. Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1? Yes. As I type, a back up is 20GB through a 104GB back up. I have a 250GB hard disk with 100GB available. I don't know why the back up is so large. The widget I spoke of gave recent error details as ... --- Starting standard backup Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://steven%20know...@time-capsule.local/Data Mounted network destination using URL: afp://steven%20know...@time-capsule.local/Data QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN Disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db| No pre-backup thinning needed: 118.85 GB requested (including padding), 133.81 GB available Copied 19.6 GB of 96.5 GB, 73391 of 183430 items Stopping backup. Error: (-43) SrcErr:NO Copying /users/steven/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/NML2NDeviceObserver_2010-09-29-193147_MacBook-Pro-2.crash to /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/MacBook Pro (2)/2010-09-28-085307.inProgress/***----/Macintosh HD/Users/steven/Library/Logs/CrashReporter Copied 88263 files (19.9 GB) from volume Macintosh
RE: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Ok, I am interested in this thread and watching with interest. Is the Widget noted below something I could use to monitor my TM backups? There isn't any indication of the exact part of the process that's going on unless opening TM preferences and watching the progress bar - but still not much info about what is really going on. How do I get this Widget? Is it something users recommend I DON'T use? Regards Peter. From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 12:08 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume' Hi Steven, Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your internal HD may not match the hidden File System Event Database that OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed since the last backup and needs to be copied. Since it is untrustable, TM must examine every directory (folder) on your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of course, a lengthy procedure. This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes normally. If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run. But Firstly: 1. Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System Preferences Spotlight Privacy. 2. In System Preferences Energy Saver make sure you don't have selected Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible. Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to Never as well. Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the computer too much while this backup is occurring. Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish. If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups. When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc. Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight. I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message up on the web led me to this page ... http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... which seemed to be about the problem I was having. The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight directory seems to make sense, and a better option than erasing the Time Capsule (which may end up being necessary if I can't get Time Capsule to index Spotlight again). Regards your questions Ronni ... Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? Yes. Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder? Yes. Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences Time Machine? Yes. Do Attempts to back up get backup disk is not available message? More detail in a second. Or is your problem Time Capsule gets stuck at Preparing Backup... ? No. Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1? Yes. As I type, a back up is 20GB through a 104GB back up. I have a 250GB hard disk with 100GB available. I don't know why the back up is so large. The widget I spoke of gave recent error details as ... --- Starting standard backup Attempting to mount network destination using URL: afp://steven%20know...@time-capsule.local/Data Mounted network destination using URL: afp://steven%20know...@time-capsule.local/Data QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN Disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle mounted at: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups Backing up to: /Volumes/Time
Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'
Hi Peter, As I mentioned below in my reply to Steven, Applications Utilities Console App - System logs. But if you want a Widget to show the system logs: Time Machine Buddy: http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/status/timemachinebuddy.html Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 12:30 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote: Ok, I am interested in this thread and watching with interest. Is the Widget noted below something I could use to monitor my TM backups? There isn’t any indication of the exact part of the process that’s going on unless opening TM preferences and watching the progress bar – but still not much info about what is really going on. How do I get this Widget? Is it something users recommend I DON’T use? Regards Peter. From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 12:08 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume' Hi Steven, Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your internal HD may not match the hidden File System Event Database that OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed since the last backup and needs to be copied. Since it is untrustable, TM must examine every directory (folder) on your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of course, a lengthy procedure. This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes normally. If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run. But Firstly: 1. Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System Preferences Spotlight Privacy. 2. In System Preferences Energy Saver make sure you don't have selected Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible. Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to Never as well. Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the computer too much while this backup is occurring. Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish. If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups. When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc. Cheers, Ronni On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail... Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight. I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message up on the web led me to this page ... http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555 ... which seemed to be about the problem I was having. The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight directory seems to make sense, and a better option than erasing the Time Capsule (which may end up being necessary if I can't get Time Capsule to index Spotlight again). Regards your questions Ronni ... Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? Yes. Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder? Yes. Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences Time Machine? Yes. Do Attempts to back up get backup disk is not available message? More detail in a second. Or is your problem Time Capsule gets stuck at Preparing Backup… ? No. Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1? Yes. As I type, a back up is 20GB through a 104GB back up. I have a 250GB hard disk with 100GB available. I don't know why the back up is so large. The widget I spoke of gave recent error details as ... --- Starting standard
