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On 9/12/07, Reg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, Deb Drew :):) This is exactly the type of help we were hoping to receive. :):):):):):) We'll take a look at those headers and see what we can do. Should page content titles be coded as H1 level and the side bar heading.at what level? H2s? In some ways it is almost like having TWO level 1 headings on the page -- the heading for page content and the heading for the sidebar. Our current stylesheet relies on the sidebar menus being at the top of the HTML markup. We know this is a problem for accessibility (needs a skip repeated navigation'), but we're not sure how best to resolve. Does anyone have a suggestion? Nothing wrong with having more than a single h1 on a page since that is what the specs show in their example. You could achieve your goal of h2 for the sidebar by using a double float right setup. That is, float the main content right then float the side bar right. That also neatly takes care of the skip-to-contents question since the content will appear first in the code. It's also a wonderful reminder of the power of css just watching things reverse with a few quick editing changes. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Drew -- thanks for this tip! I think it just might solve several of our problems. At 06:10 AM 9/13/2007, you wrote: On 9/12/07, Reg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, Deb Drew :):) This is exactly the type of help we were hoping to receive. :):):):):):) We'll take a look at those headers and see what we can do. Should page content titles be coded as H1 level and the side bar heading.at what level? H2s? In some ways it is almost like having TWO level 1 headings on the page -- the heading for page content and the heading for the sidebar. Our current stylesheet relies on the sidebar menus being at the top of the HTML markup. We know this is a problem for accessibility (needs a skip repeated navigation'), but we're not sure how best to resolve. Does anyone have a suggestion? Nothing wrong with having more than a single h1 on a page since that is what the specs show in their example. You could achieve your goal of h2 for the sidebar by using a double float right setup. That is, float the main content right then float the side bar right. That also neatly takes care of the skip-to-contents question since the content will appear first in the code. It's also a wonderful reminder of the power of css just watching things reverse with a few quick editing changes. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check Please
On 9/11/07, Reg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've finally taken the plunge and attempted to create fully CSS page layout templates for our website. We have over 8,000 pages to convert to the new template, too. So, we are asking for help finding potential problems before we get too far into the process. Unfortunately, we do not have access to Macs, Linux, etc., for testing -- only Windows. We've placed each of the template pages here: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/wDCcssSample/ We would greatly appreciate your thoughts, opinions, and feedback. Couple of small things relating to css. There are a couple of errors in the .ul1 selectors. I think you are trying to comment out the #margin-left using the #. In css the comments as in the /* stuff */ format. The other 'errors' are background color issues and not something that matters. Because you are using transitional doctype, fully valid, you get to cheat a little. You've got some align attributes in the element tags: align=center in a p tag for example. This works in transitional but in fact is wrong. That's presentation and needs to go into the styling. Similarly you have images which are align=right which properly should be floated. It's usually better to play with floats a bit until they make sense. If you try to change at this point it might mess everything up. But it gives you something to do in your free time. Lastly, a point I'm almost loath to mention -- header order. There is a note in the specs about having to use headers in their numerical order h1 to h6 without skipping. While the note refers to some people, it was once mentioned on this list best I can recall, that those people are the IETF. So if appeals to authority are important to you, that would matter. What might matter more is that headers are generally taken to be an outline structure for a page. If you accept this (it isn't specified) then you have to rethink your column headings. Starting with h2 is wrong. And it is certainly erroneous if you are doing it only for the size effect of the text. Use bigger text instead. Again your practice may be acceptable in transitional states. (Just as an aside there is an old and what I find to be sterile debate about having more than a single h1 per page -- the specs talk about sections and have two h1's in the example.) Overall, it's a good effort and these are mostly minor issues which familiarity resolves. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Reg wrote: We've finally taken the plunge and attempted to create fully CSS page layout templates for our website. We have over 8,000 pages to convert to the new template, too. So, we are asking for help finding potential problems before we get too far into the process. Unfortunately, we do not have access to Macs, Linux, etc., for testing -- only Windows. We've placed each of the template pages here: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/wDCcssSample/ We would greatly appreciate your thoughts, opinions, and feedback. Looks good for me (FF 2.0.0.6 on Linux) - but the 3 column layout isn't 3 column, what I assume would be the right column appears on the left side underneath the real left column. Cheers Dave P http://blog.preshweb.co.uk/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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PBC Web Design wrote: Here are two places you can go to check your work in all the browsers: http://browsershots.org/ http://www.browsercam.com/ The first one I believe is free, the second one may have a trial and is costly for a one-on-one account but they take groups and you divvy up the annual cost. Yup, BrowserCam rocks. Perhaps we should all club together and get a BC account for the wdvltalk regulars? :) The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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At 12:17 p.m. 12/09/2007, you wrote: We've finally taken the plunge and attempted to create fully CSS page layout templates for our website. We have over 8,000 pages to convert to the new template, too. So, we are asking for help finding potential problems before we get too far into the process. Unfortunately, we do not have access to Macs, Linux, etc., for testing -- only Windows. We've placed each of the template pages here: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/wDCcssSample/ The three-column one places two small columns vertically on the left (FF2.0.0.6 XP). Regards, David The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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At 12:17 p.m. 12/09/2007, you wrote: We've finally taken the plunge and attempted to create fully CSS page layout templates for our website. We have over 8,000 pages to convert to the new template, too. So, we are asking for help finding potential problems before we get too far into the process. Unfortunately, we do not have access to Macs, Linux, etc., for testing -- only Windows. We've placed each of the template pages here: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/wDCcssSample/ Didn't complete email: three column seems to render correctly, but strikes me as an odd concept. 'Two column small right' displays small column on left. Again FF2.0.0.6 XP. Regards, David The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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At 12:17 p.m. 12/09/2007, you wrote: We've finally taken the plunge and attempted to create fully CSS page layout templates for our website. We have over 8,000 pages to convert to the new template, too. So, we are asking for help finding potential problems before we get too far into the process. Unfortunately, we do not have access to Macs, Linux, etc., for testing -- only Windows. We've placed each of the template pages here: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/wDCcssSample/ The large table looks very subdued. I would have used black text, and I think it might still work on the background colors. Regards, David The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Thanks David! We appreciate your comments. I see what you mean about the three-column design. We've decided to convert all of the existing 3-column layout pages to 2-column pages with the old right/left columns stacked on the left. A classic case of what made perfect sense to us not being obvious to anyone but us. Sorry for the confusion. At 09:00 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote: At 12:17 p.m. 12/09/2007, you wrote: We've finally taken the plunge and attempted to create fully CSS page layout templates for our website. We have over 8,000 pages to convert to the new template, too. So, we are asking for help finding potential problems before we get too far into the process. Unfortunately, we do not have access to Macs, Linux, etc., for testing -- only Windows. We've placed each of the template pages here: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/wDCcssSample/ The three-column one places two small columns vertically on the left (FF2.0.0.6 XP). Regards, David The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Looks like it's working here. I don't know that I'd give copyright to Google, though g Here are two places you can go to check your work in all the browsers: http://browsershots.org/ http://www.browsercam.com/ The first one I believe is free, the second one may have a trial and is costly for a one-on-one account but they take groups and you divvy up the annual cost. I've not used Browser Shots but from what I hear it's very good. I may dump my BrowserCam for BrowserShots because BS is free. But BC has more browsers you can view in and from what I can tell more features like screen res etc ... Deb __ At 07:17 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote: We've finally taken the plunge and attempted to create fully CSS page layout templates for our website. We have over 8,000 pages to convert to the new template, too. So, we are asking for help finding potential problems before we get too far into the process. Unfortunately, we do not have access to Macs, Linux, etc., for testing -- only Windows. We've placed each of the template pages here: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/wDCcssSample/ We would greatly appreciate your thoughts, opinions, and feedback. Thanks in advance :) Reg B. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. ÷÷÷ ÷÷÷ ÷ ÷÷÷ Deb Designer @ Digital Mouse Designs com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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From: Peter MacGregor I'd appreciate comments on www.healthandsafetyformicrofirms.com if anyone has time. There is no checkout at the moment and we're still uploading data and tidying up some of the data but some initial reactions please. You need to register to get inside the site but at the moment you can do that at no cost - ignore the cost that it shows if you register, it goes nowhere! I'll delete all names from the database before we go live in a few weeks. Tens of thousands of small firms in UK have no HS system even though it is a legal requirement. (Must be in writing if there are five or more employees). Most think it is too costly to bring in professional help to set one up - this is an attempt to tap that market. Thanks for any comments - good bad or indifferent! Regards Peter MacGregor PS - the ads are purely for testing purposes at this stage! Peter, If you are part educating to the fact of responsibility should the first line of text to meet the eye be: 'Are you meeting your legal Health and Safety responsibilities? Your answers are here.' What the hell is a 'microfirm'? One that makes computer chips? ;-) i.e. are you speaking to fellow consultants or small business owners and club secretaries? In the pink slab too, drop micro. The more I'm reading the more I think you need to spend a penny or two and get an ad/sales/marketing writer to sharpen this up. It is a description, but not a sales tool. I'm no expert that way, but I am picking up changes needed every half sentence. Those you are addressing are not going to be the same people who attend conferences, or who spend half their life on courses. They won't have the 'bizspeak'. Layout and colour seems to me good and easy to follow. I am not sure that the right hand column has the right list; or maybe it needs an intro of a dozen or so words. 'Everything your organisation does is subject to Health and Safety law. Here is a list of many aspects to be checked.' Sorry, can't spend time inside the site, but this is the page that should get people to stay. Joseph Joseph Harris http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com family friendly humour The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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On 8/21/07, PBC Web Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Peter, Well, my first look says wa to busy looking. My feeling when I view it is governmental so if that's what you're shooting for then in my opinion you hit the mark. Have to agree with Deb it is both busy looking and governmental. And that is probably the effect you want on the home page. But maybe a little less busy on other pages might be good? Once someone starts looking through the categories, might it not be helpful to drop the left column? You've got Login and Membership at the top and I imagine it would be triggered when they go to check out as well. Or perhaps add some elements of the left column to the lighter red menu preceding the content? This way you are down to two content content columns -- documents and categories. Much easier on the eye and as a user I think I'd likely be ignoring the left column while looking for my documents. Oh and is the Unauthorized Copy splashed across the documents on even the downloads? Here that might create the impression that there is something wrong with the document. Good luck with it. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Thanks, Deb. Appreciate your comments. At 04:34 22/08/2007, you wrote: Hi Peter, Well, my first look says wa to busy looking. I think maybe there's to much of the same look all over. Perhaps if you break it up a little bit by saying putting a bg color in the right or left cells? I don't think I'd go w/red but maybe - I'd have to play w/it. Just seems to need some breaking up for the visual. The grey on this page might do it: http://healthandsafetyformicrofirms.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=4 or a lighter grey. I think I'd also change the light pink to very light grey - the pink is a little hard on my eyes anyway and since this is not strictly a female site - I'd try to get a more uni-sex color combo going. I'll pass these comments on to the programmer working with me. Perhaps we'll introduce them in v2 - there's loads more to do! I like the logo :) My feeling when I view it is governmental so if that's what you're shooting for then in my opinion you hit the mark. In act I am looking for reflected glory from the UK Government site - trying to indicate we know what we're about! Governments of course will never endorse anything officially, but I've worked with the HSE and a County Fire Service and have run the site past my contacts there unofficially and the feedback was positive. Question, is this all set in a Zencart template or is the cart separate? No - it's all done in ZenCart for speed but again, once we're earning money (hopefully!) we'll consider options. Looks like a huge undertaking - I wish you the best of luck! This in fact is going to be one section of my overall site dealing with a number of areas of business from which I've earned money over the past 17 years. My main domain is ranworth.co.uk but at the moment that just shows an earlier version of this. In a few weeks I'll be reloading that with my old site content and a link to this one. Then work starts on the rest to provide a Corporate Look and Feel across the other sections. We then plan to come back to this to do the same here - but that is probably a year away given the amount we have to do on the rest first! Cheers Peter Deb At 02:08 PM 8/21/2007, you wrote: I'd appreciate comments on www.healthandsafetyformicrofirms.com if anyone has time. ÷÷÷ ÷÷÷ ÷ ÷÷÷ Deb Designer @ Digital Mouse Designs com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 20/08/2007 17:44 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Should have said UK Government Health and Safety Site which is at www.hse.gov.uk. Peter At 04:34 22/08/2007, you wrote: Hi Peter, Well, my first look says wa to busy looking. I think maybe there's to much of the same look all over. Perhaps if you break it up a little bit by saying putting a bg color in the right or left cells? I don't think I'd go w/red but maybe - I'd have to play w/it. Just seems to need some breaking up for the visual. The grey on this page might do it: http://healthandsafetyformicrofirms.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=4 or a lighter grey. I think I'd also change the light pink to very light grey - the pink is a little hard on my eyes anyway and since this is not strictly a female site - I'd try to get a more uni-sex color combo going. I like the logo :) My feeling when I view it is governmental so if that's what you're shooting for then in my opinion you hit the mark. Question, is this all set in a Zencart template or is the cart separate? Looks like a huge undertaking - I wish you the best of luck! Deb At 02:08 PM 8/21/2007, you wrote: I'd appreciate comments on www.healthandsafetyformicrofirms.com if anyone has time. ÷÷÷ ÷÷÷ ÷ ÷÷÷ Deb Designer @ Digital Mouse Designs com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 20/08/2007 17:44 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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At 10:56 22/08/2007, you wrote: Peter, If you are part educating to the fact of responsibility should the first line of text to meet the eye be: 'Are you meeting your legal Health and Safety responsibilities? Your answers are here.' Good point - I'll revise text What the hell is a 'microfirm'? One that makes computer chips? ;-) i.e. are you speaking to fellow consultants or small business owners and club secretaries? It's the official designation for firms employing less than ten people! In the pink slab too, drop micro. The more I'm reading the more I think you need to spend a penny or two and get an ad/sales/marketing writer to sharpen this up. It is a description, but not a sales tool. I'm no expert that way, but I am picking up changes needed every half sentence. The first iteration of this site was done by someone that said they'd use professionals to produce the text etc. In fact I ended up paying a significant sum of money and ended up with a site that was four months late being delivered, full of problems (links not working etc.) and earned absolutely nothing for me. Stage payments fortunately and the last not paid - but the perpetrator has vanished. As a result the budget is extremely tight now, especially as I've earned nothing for 12 months while nursing my wife who has terminal cancer. Those you are addressing are not going to be the same people who attend conferences, or who spend half their life on courses. They won't have the 'bizspeak'. OK - will consider that. Layout and colour seems to me good and easy to follow. I am not sure that the right hand column has the right list; or maybe it needs an intro of a dozen or so words. 'Everything your organisation does is subject to Health and Safety law. Here is a list of many aspects to be checked.' Like that too! Sorry, can't spend time inside the site, but this is the page that should get people to stay. Joseph Thanks Joseph. Cheers Peter The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check Please
At 14:33 22/08/2007, you wrote: Have to agree with Deb it is both busy looking and governmental. And that is probably the effect you want on the home page. But maybe a little less busy on other pages might be good? You've probably seen my response to Deb by now - aiming to freeload of the HSE web site to some extent! Once someone starts looking through the categories, might it not be helpful to drop the left column? You've got Login and Membership at the top and I imagine it would be triggered when they go to check out as well. Or perhaps add some elements of the left column to the lighter red menu preceding the content? This way you are down to two content content columns -- documents and categories. Much easier on the eye and as a user I think I'd likely be ignoring the left column while looking for my documents. Good point - will discuss with my programmer. Oh and is the Unauthorized Copy splashed across the documents on even the downloads? Here that might create the impression that there is something wrong with the document. No - that's just to stop rip-offs. I'll add a few words saying the downloads are free of the watermark. Good luck with it. Thanks Peter The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check Please
Hi Peter, Well, my first look says wa to busy looking. I think maybe there's to much of the same look all over. Perhaps if you break it up a little bit by saying putting a bg color in the right or left cells? I don't think I'd go w/red but maybe - I'd have to play w/it. Just seems to need some breaking up for the visual. The grey on this page might do it: http://healthandsafetyformicrofirms.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=4 or a lighter grey. I think I'd also change the light pink to very light grey - the pink is a little hard on my eyes anyway and since this is not strictly a female site - I'd try to get a more uni-sex color combo going. I like the logo :) My feeling when I view it is governmental so if that's what you're shooting for then in my opinion you hit the mark. Question, is this all set in a Zencart template or is the cart separate? Looks like a huge undertaking - I wish you the best of luck! Deb At 02:08 PM 8/21/2007, you wrote: I'd appreciate comments on www.healthandsafetyformicrofirms.com if anyone has time. ÷÷÷ ÷÷÷ ÷ ÷÷÷ Deb Designer @ Digital Mouse Designs com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] site check please - http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com
Joseph - I've looked using Firefox 1.0.6 under Windows XP and the only thing I've found is that the 'more' link at the bottom of every page I tried gave a 404. Maybe because these are only samples - but thought you should know. Otherwise, loads fast and didn't spot any problems - through the giggles I had while checking! Regards Peter MacGregor At 15:30 22/09/2005, you wrote: At long last my new site... In the end simple html with some css. I have worked only with IE6 (trouble with Firefox before my disaster and Opera couldn't find its way to the local server!) so any comments from other browsers would be appreciated. Sample pages were generated through a publishing program and the css is embedded. Later I will add other things, but I intend to go live quickly now. Look forward to all comments. Joseph Oh - the url: http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com Joseph Harris Humor coming soon: (When Nature Calls) http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com (Loo as in English toilet...) http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com (family friendly humour) The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] site check please - http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com
Thanks Peter. - through the giggles I had while checking! That's specially good to know. Joseph Joseph Harris (When Nature Calls) http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com (Loo as in English toilet...) http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com (family friendly humour) - Original Message - From: Peter MacGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] site check please - http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com Joseph - I've looked using Firefox 1.0.6 under Windows XP and the only thing I've found is that the 'more' link at the bottom of every page I tried gave a 404. Maybe because these are only samples - but thought you should know. Otherwise, loads fast and didn't spot any problems - through the giggles I had while checking! Regards Peter MacGregor At 15:30 22/09/2005, you wrote: At long last my new site... In the end simple html with some css. I have worked only with IE6 (trouble with Firefox before my disaster and Opera couldn't find its way to the local server!) so any comments from other browsers would be appreciated. Sample pages were generated through a publishing program and the css is embedded. Later I will add other things, but I intend to go live quickly now. Look forward to all comments. Joseph Oh - the url: http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com Joseph Harris Humor coming soon: (When Nature Calls) http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com (Loo as in English toilet...) http://www.smilepoetryweekly.com (family friendly humour) . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005 . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 14/09/2005 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site check please
Hi Stephen As I'm at home to visit me mother for Mother's Day I've just acquired my stepdad's old G3 iMac (shame it's red not blue to match my glowing blue P4) but it's more than enough to do my Mac testing on. I will annoy the chief at work some more to get a Mac mini or cheap iMac or SOMETHING to save us pratting about and I think now with these minor Mac issues arrising I have even more weight to my argument. Now that I've seen Franni's screengrabs I would concur that it's IE5's box model issues that are to blame - with the padding and borders added to the various panels I have on the site they're ended up too wide for the width of the containing elements. Annoying really because I've not specified prece pixel measurements for my floated elements (I think I got something like a 15px strip between my elements which would cover any extra width rendering) and also I've worked out a way I can still get precise pixel dimensions without worrying about hacks - looks like this time it's failed. Thanks to all I've give you an update when this is all finished. MOU Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site check please
Hi Ross, Tested in Firefox 1.0 on Linux. Looks *very* nice, very clean and professional. Nice use of Flash too. I really like some of the effects in the Flash bit, especially when you do the full view which lists each item. I like the rounded corners on all the boxes. On first sight, the 'video cd-rom web dvd' bit at the top right almost looks like it should be some form of navigation. On the 'Our Services' page, I think the big space to the left of each paragraph looks wrong - it looks like there should be something there that's missing. On the left nav, I feel that the link for 'IEI' should probably give a clue to what it is - 'IEI Newsletter' perhaps. Over 4 days, two Maclagan film crews visited 18 pubs across the UK from Newcastle-upon-Tyne to Brighton, - oh what a job! I want to work for these guys!!! I'm sure you know, but trying to access http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/company/ gives a 403 error (prob no index page created yet). Cheers Dave P On Friday 04 March 2005 02:18, Ross Clutterbuck wrote: Hi all The new site is nearing completion so I thought I'd better ask you wonderful people for a once over. Not a lot of the site actually has any content yet (for example the Flash widget has temporary graphics and the portfolio has test documents) but you should be able to see the structure. I've not set up a dummy account yet to test the Client Login and I don't think the only client on there would appreciate me passing around her login details! http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/ Comments on a postcard to the usual address. Thanks MOU The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site check please
Dave: On the 'Our Services' page, I think the big space to the left of each paragraph looks wrong - it looks like there should be something there that's missing. That's because there is something missing! I forgot to upload the images that go with each service. On the left nav, I feel that the link for 'IEI' should probably give a clue to what it is - 'IEI Newsletter' perhaps. Good call thanks I'm sure you know, but trying to access http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/company/ gives a 403 error (prob no index page created yet). Good catch - it is done just not uploaded it seems... MOU Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site check please
Joseph: The site came up quickly on FF (Xphome) but the image is taking for ever to load (56 dial-up). Yeah I forgot to mention that I've not done any image optimisation at this point so the images that teh Flash movie loads in are around 100k each - sorry for all you dial-up testers at this point! Now it is all visible it looks attractive and holding - the title graphic is interesting without being demanding. Thank you Unless it is for strong selling I am not sure the flash part helps; it distracts from reading what is below. But what is below is clean and easy to read. The Flash movie ultimately will be a running slideshow of a few of the very biggest things we want our clients to see, so yes it will be a major selling point when this thing goes live. Also, I'm going to get teh author of the content to reduce the size of the synopses (?) he's writing - this front page to the site is not supposed to be read for very long. It's supposed to be rigged up for a quick overview to everything and a lot of teh important information is one-click away. The fact that you're reading it, and thus being distracted by the Flash widget (which will have its timer increased to 7 seconds not 5) means this front page is not working 100% as intended. Are the fading lines in the main part graphics or what? The fading lines are actually a layer over the top of the images in Flash as the 50% transparent area does morph into a menu system when you view the Flash widget in full mode. Thanks muchly Jospeh - any feedback on the rest of the site? The IEI section is available and working (you'll get the main page layout and navigation then). MOU The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site check please
All the other pages come up very fast and there is a consistent clarity. I particularly like the way you've done the login page.It's the log in windows that really seem more inviting than most, even though the blue is slightly cold. Joseph Joseph: The site came up quickly on FF (Xphome) but the image is taking for ever to load (56 dial-up). Yeah I forgot to mention that I've not done any image optimisation at this point so the images that teh Flash movie loads in are around 100k each - sorry for all you dial-up testers at this point! Now it is all visible it looks attractive and holding - the title graphic is interesting without being demanding. Thank you Unless it is for strong selling I am not sure the flash part helps; it distracts from reading what is below. But what is below is clean and easy to read. The Flash movie ultimately will be a running slideshow of a few of the very biggest things we want our clients to see, so yes it will be a major selling point when this thing goes live. Also, I'm going to get teh author of the content to reduce the size of the synopses (?) he's writing - this front page to the site is not supposed to be read for very long. It's supposed to be rigged up for a quick overview to everything and a lot of teh important information is one-click away. The fact that you're reading it, and thus being distracted by the Flash widget (which will have its timer increased to 7 seconds not 5) means this front page is not working 100% as intended. Are the fading lines in the main part graphics or what? The fading lines are actually a layer over the top of the images in Flash as the 50% transparent area does morph into a menu system when you view the Flash widget in full mode. Thanks muchly Jospeh - any feedback on the rest of the site? The IEI section is available and working (you'll get the main page layout and navigation then). MOU . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] Site check please
MOU, you have 70 validation errors. They are in two principal groups. One is the no such attribute problem. The other is the entity issue in the php links. There is one error that seems to indicate you've used an id twice -- to the tower with ye! Many of the attribute issues have to do with xhtml strict not working well with other web addons such as flash and php. For example, in php you need name for the database but xhtml strict only wants id. This cause validation errors. Same thing with some of the flash. The entity problem has to do with the use of , the ampersand. Xhtml doesn't like that. Use either the amp; or the html number #34; (source for html codes is http://www.ascii.cl/ ). To ease the attribute/id issue switch to a strict html 4.01 doctype. You'll have to remove the / endings but that's easy enough with a search and replace. I think this will also resolve the flash errors but I'm not positive since I don't use flash (to me it rarely adds anything worth seeing -- but that's just me). drew -Original Message- From: Ross ClutterbuckHi all http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/ Comments on a postcard to the usual address. Thanks MOU The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site check please
Hi all The new site is nearing completion so I thought I'd better ask you wonderful people for a once over. Not a lot of the site actually has any content yet (for example the Flash widget has temporary graphics and the portfolio has test documents) but you should be able to see the structure. I've not set up a dummy account yet to test the Client Login and I don't think the only client on there would appreciate me passing around her login details! http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/ Comments on a postcard to the usual address. Thanks MOU Colour's really good, like the top image tho the flash takes forever to load, the temp images are good so assuming the end products going to be even better much quicker! However, I'm using IE on a Mac here, the menu's dropped so far down the page it's off the screen... I can send a screenshot across if that'd be helpful? Franni The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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At 08:18 PM 3/3/2005, you wrote: http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/ Comments on a postcard to the usual address. Hi Ross, I really like your FLASH =) I think overall it looks very sharp. There are 2 things I would change. 1) it's very narrow - I would widen it out a bit - I'm thinking to 700'ish px or so and 2) I don't care for the grey-purple-y gradient background ~coloring~ I would go with a color already in use in the design. Either that or a solid color - probably white. There seems to be some kind of color clash going on in my opinion. I would like to ask if you'd share the way you did your rounded corners? Deb http://www.puterbug.com Web Design, SEO and Hosting Services Offlist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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I looked at it for a sec from home last night and it took right at 30 seconds to pull up the page on DSL (1.5mbps) then an additional 17 seconds for the flash to load. I still need to do a lot of image optimisation to do on the site to speed things up a bit and this will be most noticable on teh Flash widget when I don't have JPEGs at 100k each to load, but even so it loads faster on my 512K DSL at home and the 1Mb at work so maybe you had a lag that day - the tweaks are continuing... One thing that's not clear on the home page is what exactly The Maclagan Men do. Good call. The title image at the very top was only a knock together when I was Photoshoping the layout but the boss liked it so it stayed. Although I intended to have links direct to what we do on the front page I do agree and see now that it's going to have even more punch if we said straight away what we did - the boss is a little hung up in the fact that people would only visit out site if directed (it's not an advertisement in its own right - it's a resource and promotion when you've already contacted us) but I keep saying that's close-minded bullsh*t so I will re-jig some bits to cater for Google-ers and the like. On letting my eyes drift where they will, I do get the natural resting point of videocd-romwebdvd I'd love to say that was intentional, but as it was a throw-together for design concepts I can't do that! But as it has this welcome effect I think I shall play it up a little more... Oh! But your source is so very nice and clean :) Hand-coded XHTML Strict baby! Custom-written PHP CMS too (nice and basic for what I need - nothing fancy) and I don't mind sounding proud because this is my first venture into PHP. The Portfolio page I'm not crazy about the stock photography. Again it's carried over from the mock-ups I did. Although I do like a nice little image thumbnail to give a visual link tot he portfolio category (too much plain text otherwise) we shall be shooting our own pictures instead of using stock footage. If you think the pictures can or should be dropped altogether I'll do a bit of tweaking and see how it pans out. The about us pages are interesting. Indicative of nepatism, but interesting none the less :P Nepatism, family business or cheap-skate are the same things at The Maclagan Men - should I really say that?!?! We are very good at what we do though... This quote (from the MOU himself) should be featured more prominently: CD-ROM, Web development, programming, motion video graphics and design. All of these skills go hand in hand with what The Maclagan Men is all about communication Good idea - as I said I'll tinker and add it to the front page somewhere... I think you've done a great job, Ross! Kudos! Thanks man! Keep it coming people - means a lot and helps improve my professional eye. MOU Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Drew MOU, you have 70 validation errors. Thanks for the check I've not done a proper XHTML Strict validation yet so I'm aware I'm going to have to tweak things. There is one error that seems to indicate you've used an id twice -- to the tower with ye! Please spare me this once I have been rushing!! Many of the attribute issues have to do with xhtml strict not working well with other web addons such as flash and php. You just can't get Flash to validate with all the required stuff in the code and to be honest I don't really care too much about that as the rest of the markup is (or will be when I've fixed it) compliant and get dealt with properly (or as properly as IE will allow). There was an interesting article on ALA called Flash Satay where all the embed rubbish was cleaned up and made XHTML valid but there were one or two things that were a problem (like the plug-ins auto-updating themselves). I'll look into it some more and make a decision. As far as I know I shouldn't have any PHP/XHTML conflicts as I'm not declaring an XML type at the very head of the page (the ? bit both use conflict with each other) as this is all text-file based, not MySQL (don't ask) but again I'll check it out. The entity problem has to do with the use of , the ampersand. Xhtml doesn't like that. Use either the amp; or the html number Seems like a bad decision on my part then. I've been very keen to use proper typography as best I can with this (subsequently ditched because this is text file based and I'm not writing the content - again don't ask) and the advice given in an ALA article EM and En and other shady characters was talking about using entity numbers instead of names and stuff. I'll probably go back to HTML numbers or named entites if XHTML is moaning. To ease the attribute/id issue switch to a strict html 4.01 doctype. No, I'm putting in the work to stay XHTML Strict as I have been doing for 2 years! Thanks for the input Drew! MOU Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Screen grabs would be good Franni thanks along with system spec and browsers tested! MOU P.S. I am reliant on you Mac guys at this stage - we're Macless in the office (a big bug bear of mine for cross-platform Director development too). Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Deb I really like your FLASH =) I think overall it looks very sharp. Glad somebody likes it lol!!! Trust me guys it will be better when it's finished... There are 2 things I would change. 1) it's very narrow - I would widen it out a bit - I'm thinking to 700'ish px or so Just goes to show how long ago I did the design work (been up to my neck in PHP for a month) I thought it was!! Or at least I was going to redesign to 700px wide. If I have the time with deadlines now I think I will, otherwise it'll have to stay as it is for a while :( and 2) I don't care for the grey-purple-y gradient background ~coloring~ That does need to change to a dark blue to go with the rest of the TMM colouring. I think I'll stick with the gradient though as the flat colour seemed, well, too flat when I mocked it up (did originally do a drop shadow on either side but that caused problems if the content div was shorter than the page height). I would like to ask if you'd share the way you did your rounded corners? I'm rather pleased with myself with these things I must say. One of those nice little revelations you get when you're trying to sleep. Don't have the time ATM for full CSS but basically this is what I did: -- used a heading tag (either H2 or H3 depending on where in the page the panel appears) styled with an image with rounded corners for the top. The image is just tall enough to give the rounded edge. The background colour is the same as the background colour in the image, then the image is placed at the top of the block and not repeated. -- the panel content is a ul with the relevant size and colour borders left and right. The lis inside of the ul are styled accordingly for position and stuff. -- there are 3 key classes for the as inside the lis though: .first, .last and .solo. .first (for the first list item) has a background image positioned no-repeat with does the inner rounded corners. As most of the margins are set to 0 in this lot, the inner rounded corners will be flush to the heading, giving the rounded panel look. .last has the thick bottom border to close the panel .solo is a combination of both for single-item panels. So using the images fixed to the top of the relevant blocks (with borders and background colours mainly used for the panel effect) it doesn't matter how much the blocks size with the flow and size of text, the rounded panel effect is maintained. I'm rubbish at describing things so I shall post the CSS I used if you want to have a look, alternatively have a look at http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/lib/css/screen.css and find the quicklinx class (it needs a lot of cleaning up though). MOU Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Screen grabs would be good Franni thanks along with system spec and browsers tested! MOU P.S. I am reliant on you Mac guys at this stage - we're Macless in the office (a big bug bear of mine for cross-platform Director development too). Screenshot on its way offlist - MacOs X, IE5.5 is where the menu isn't appearing where it oughtta, but it's fine in Netscape. Franni The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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The site looks great, Ross, very crisp and clean, easily navigated, and professional. I might change the wording for the Open Full View button on the Flash control (which I like, BTW, especially the texture) to View Menu or something. When I first moused over it I had the idea at first that it might be to open a larger Flash window. The main body content area is a trifle narrow on my 1152 x 864 monitor, but I believe you've already mentioned changing that. Load time for the home page was fairly quick on my DSL connection (1.5 Mb/s), less than 20 seconds. I should note that I did not see the color cast in the gray gradient (SlimBrowser 4.03 build 007, ATI Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO AGP, Envision EN-910, Windows XP SP2, AMD processor). This may be a hardware or OS related issue. I used Iconico's ColorPic to view a 5 x 6 sample of the darkest gray of the gradient and it appeared to be a near-neutral gray visually, about 85-90% gray. The hex color value was 535C6D, which is slightly weighted toward the blue, but no apparent cast can be observed in the expanded sample. All in all, nice work. I'd be interested to see it again when you go live, so maybe you could remind us when you've got it ready so we can take a look. Cheers, Scott - Original Message - From: Ross Clutterbuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Site check please Hi all The new site is nearing completion so I thought I'd better ask you wonderful people for a once over. Not a lot of the site actually has any content yet (for example the Flash widget has temporary graphics and the portfolio has test documents) but you should be able to see the structure. I've not set up a dummy account yet to test the Client Login and I don't think the only client on there would appreciate me passing around her login details! http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/ Comments on a postcard to the usual address. Thanks MOU ::SNIP:: The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Send them out forthwith to procure an Mac and do not let them re-enter the building without one. Seriously. Mac Mini's are cheap-a-cheap-a and pack a hell of a wallop... so long as you're not doing sound or video *editing* on them... then again a powerbook can easily handle that sort of thing, if it's your bag and pricking's not too bad on them. But for the developer (especially LAMP folk or RoR'rs), OS X is just dreamy. Unix underpinnings and eye candy to boot. IDE? Eclipse. With the PHPEclipse plugin... even if you're just doing html, it's a cheap way to get good syntax highlighting and code completion into it. price? free. Plays oh so nice with mySQL (CocoaMySQL for a GUI DB interface), comes with Apache and PHP preinstalled. Did I mention the eye candy? very harmonious and thanks to Apples extensive interface specifications, everything pretty much behaves like you expect it to... stuff just makes sense. They *get* it. Sorry... rant. Your site looks great in the standards compliant browsers on mac. As Franni pointed out though, you've got a small issue in Exploder 5.2 for Mac. It looks like a box model botch. The nav float seems to be a bit too wide... I'm thinking a simple hack for it would clear it up... from http://www.sam-i-am.com/work/sandbox/css/mac_ie5_hack.html , something like this: /* commented backslash hack v2 \*/ #quicklinx {width:???; } /* not for IE 5.2 */ #quicklinx {width:???; } /* for IE 5.2 */ /* end hack */ Check out Dan Vine's site for a free way to get Mac screen grabs... you can at least get the nav float straight. Or just give IE the finger. I do. - Stephen On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 00:11:00 + (GMT), Ross Clutterbuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Screen grabs would be good Franni thanks along with system spec and browsers tested! MOU P.S. I am reliant on you Mac guys at this stage - we're Macless in the office (a big bug bear of mine for cross-platform Director development too). Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Ross, The site came up quickly on FF (Xphome) but the image is taking for ever to load (56 dial-up). Now it is all visible it looks attractive and holding - the title graphic is interesting without being demanding. Unless it is for strong selling I am not sure the flash part helps; it distracts from reading what is below. But what is below is clean and easy to read. Are the fading lines in the main part graphics or what? Joseph Harris Hi all The new site is nearing completion so I thought I'd better ask you wonderful people for a once over. Not a lot of the site actually has any content yet (for example the Flash widget has temporary graphics and the portfolio has test documents) but you should be able to see the structure. I've not set up a dummy account yet to test the Client Login and I don't think the only client on there would appreciate me passing around her login details! http://www.themmen.co.uk/newsite/ Comments on a postcard to the usual address. Thanks MOU Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Yes Peter, blank in IE with this source::: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=windows-1252/HEAD BODY/BODY/HTML Blank in Firefox with this source htmlbody/body/html Blank in Opera with no source at all HTH Joseph (Just like the Cheshire cat! Did I mention Blair?) - Original Message - From: Peter MacGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Site Check please Can someone please check the following: http://www.smugglers-at-sompting.co.uk/clubs/clubs_index.shtml I've uploaded a modification to it this morning but it seems to be showing up blank on my browsers and I have no idea why! It's a page on a client site that I've had for about five years now and all I did was delete an extra comma in the text that we hadn't noticed before! It shows up fine in my Browser Test here and in Dreamweaver - but not when I looked online! If it comes up OK can you also check the Business Club link on that page - on the left? Many Thanks Peter MacGregor -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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It comes blank. Amrit - Original Message - From: Peter MacGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Site Check please Can someone please check the following: http://www.smugglers-at-sompting.co.uk/clubs/clubs_index.shtml I've uploaded a modification to it this morning but it seems to be showing up blank on my browsers and I have no idea why! It's a page on a client site that I've had for about five years now and all I did was delete an extra comma in the text that we hadn't noticed before! It shows up fine in my Browser Test here and in Dreamweaver - but not when I looked online! If it comes up OK can you also check the Business Club link on that page - on the left? Many Thanks Peter MacGregor -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check please
Thanks Joseph - it's definitely old age! Did the upload in a hurry for the client and now realise I uploaded it to the wrong folder! Now fixed - but if you have a minute just check again please www.smugglers-at-sompting.co.uk Click on Clubs in menu bar. Ta ever so Peter At 11:08 18/02/2005, you wrote: Yes Peter, blank in IE with this source::: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN Blank in Firefox with this source htmlbody/body/html Blank in Opera with no source at all HTH Joseph (Just like the Cheshire cat! Did I mention Blair?) - Original Message - From: Peter MacGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Site Check please Can someone please check the following: http://www.smugglers-at-sompting.co.uk/clubs/clubs_index.shtml I've uploaded a modification to it this morning but it seems to be showing up blank on my browsers and I have no idea why! It's a page on a client site that I've had for about five years now and all I did was delete an extra comma in the text that we hadn't noticed before! It shows up fine in my Browser Test here and in Dreamweaver - but not when I looked online! If it comes up OK can you also check the Business Club link on that page - on the left? Many Thanks Peter MacGregor -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check please
Yes it is looking good in IE, page comes up, club link works. - but now neither opera nor firefox will open, looks like Revenge of the Bill. Joseph (Alas, I know what you mean about wrong folder!!!) Thanks Joseph - it's definitely old age! Did the upload in a hurry for the client and now realise I uploaded it to the wrong folder! Now fixed - but if you have a minute just check again please www.smugglers-at-sompting.co.uk Click on Clubs in menu bar. Ta ever so Peter At 11:08 18/02/2005, you wrote: Yes Peter, blank in IE with this source::: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN Blank in Firefox with this source htmlbody/body/html Blank in Opera with no source at all HTH Joseph (Just like the Cheshire cat! Did I mention Blair?) - Original Message - From: Peter MacGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Site Check please Can someone please check the following: http://www.smugglers-at-sompting.co.uk/clubs/clubs_index.shtml I've uploaded a modification to it this morning but it seems to be showing up blank on my browsers and I have no idea why! It's a page on a client site that I've had for about five years now and all I did was delete an extra comma in the text that we hadn't noticed before! It shows up fine in my Browser Test here and in Dreamweaver - but not when I looked online! If it comes up OK can you also check the Business Club link on that page - on the left? Many Thanks Peter MacGregor -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check please
Joseph Harris wrote: Yes it is looking good in IE, page comes up, club link works. - but now neither opera nor firefox will open, looks like Revenge of the Bill. Joseph (Alas, I know what you mean about wrong folder!!!) Comes up fine in FF1.0 and O7.54 for me The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check please
Thanks Stephen Peter At 15:42 18/02/2005, you wrote: Joseph Harris wrote: Yes it is looking good in IE, page comes up, club link works. - but now neither opera nor firefox will open, looks like Revenge of the Bill. Joseph (Alas, I know what you mean about wrong folder!!!) Comes up fine in FF1.0 and O7.54 for me The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] Site Check please
Thanks Franni - if you want a van like that I believe there may be still a few available. They were a special make for South Africa by Citroen (?) I think and then the firm that ordered them didn't take them (Think they went bust). Peter At 16:07 18/02/2005, you wrote: Can someone please check the following: http://www.smugglers-at-sompting.co.uk/clubs/clubs_index.shtml I've uploaded a modification to it this morning but it seems to be showing up blank on my browsers and I have no idea why! It's a page on a client site that I've had for about five years now and all I did was delete an extra comma in the text that we hadn't noticed before! It shows up fine in my Browser Test here and in Dreamweaver - but not when I looked online! If it comes up OK can you also check the Business Club link on that page - on the left? Many Thanks Peter MacGregor It's fine here, both page itself the Business Club link showing up on Mac in IE5 Netscape7 ... (love their cute van) Franni The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.