Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mike Hammett]

Yeah, most of my towers aren't going anywhere unless hit directly by a tornado. 
Even most of the ones that aren't that strong are still decent. 

That's part of why I cringe when I hear of people using much less than Rohn 65 
for towers. Ya just can't put enough useful stuff up there. 




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From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:59:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 


We avoid sissy towers :P 


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 08/28/2014 02:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



Not so simple - massive wind load increase. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
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On Aug 28, 2014 6:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@spitwspots.com > wrote: 




Surprised more antenna manufacturers aren't using that "one simple trick to 
increase your  by several " :) 



Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 08/28/2014 02:06 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



It is hard to beat 1/4" of aluminum. ;-) 




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From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:12:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 


I have seen the reports from various people doing direct comparison of signal 
levels on the tower between kp/ubnt+rfarmor. The ubnt+rfarmor won in the 
isolation test, by far. 


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 08/28/2014 01:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



You don't need shield kits, they ship with a metal case to go around a Rocket. 
It's just one part instead of two. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Aug 28, 2014 5:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@spitwspots.com > wrote: 




To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard about them, but we could 
never use them. No shield kit makes them unusable to us. 

The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits make pretty much 
everything else obsolete, except for 45-120deg Ti sectors with RF Armor. 


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



KP hands down. Better antennas. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam" < w...@csilogan.com > wrote: 


That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in 
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible? 

Thanks 
Sam 



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote: 
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for 
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock 
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas. 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
> Behalf Of Sam 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM 
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 
> 
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance 
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences 
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi 
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as 
> well. 
> 
> Thanks 
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Reynolds]

We avoid sissy towers :P

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 02:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Not so simple - massive wind load increase.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 6:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds" > wrote:


Surprised more antenna manufacturers aren't using that "one simple
trick to increase your  by several " :)

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 02:06 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

It is hard to beat 1/4" of aluminum.  ;-)



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*From: *"Josh Reynolds" 

*To: *wireless@wispa.org 
*Sent: *Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:12:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 I have seen the reports from various people doing direct
comparison of signal levels on the tower between kp/ubnt+rfarmor.
The ubnt+rfarmor won in the isolation test, by far.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 01:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

You don't need shield kits, they ship with a metal case to go
around a Rocket.  It's just one part instead of two.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 5:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:

To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard
about them, but we could never use them. No shield kit
makes them unusable to us.

The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits
make pretty much everything else obsolete, except for
45-120deg Ti sectors with RF Armor.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

KP hands down.  Better antennas.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam" mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:

That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about
differences in
performance between the two? Big difference?
Negligible?

Thanks
Sam



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is
they come with a cover for
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements
cover if you're using stock
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] On
> Behalf Of Sam
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both
UBNT and KP Performance
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to
share their experiences
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm
specifically looking at 13 dBi
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the
sector antennas compare as
> well.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

Not so simple - massive wind load increase.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 28, 2014 6:40 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

>  Surprised more antenna manufacturers aren't using that "one simple trick
> to increase your  by several " :)
>
>  Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>  On 08/28/2014 02:06 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> It is hard to beat 1/4" of aluminum.  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
>
>  --
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds"  
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:12:55 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
>  I have seen the reports from various people doing direct comparison of
> signal levels on the tower between kp/ubnt+rfarmor. The ubnt+rfarmor won in
> the isolation test, by far.
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>  On 08/28/2014 01:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> You don't need shield kits, they ship with a metal case to go around a
> Rocket.  It's just one part instead of two.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Aug 28, 2014 5:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>>  To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard about them, but
>> we could never use them. No shield kit makes them unusable to us.
>>
>> The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits make pretty much
>> everything else obsolete, except for 45-120deg Ti sectors with RF Armor.
>>
>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>  On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> KP hands down.  Better antennas.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam"  wrote:
>>
>>> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
>>> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>>> > I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
>>> > the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using
>>> stock
>>> > Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> On
>>> > Behalf Of Sam
>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
>>> > To: WISPA General List
>>> > Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>>> >
>>> > I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
>>> > antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
>>> > of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13
>>> dBi
>>> > omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
>>> > well.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Reynolds]

Surprised more antenna manufacturers aren't using that "one simple trick 
to increase your  by several " :)


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 02:06 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

It is hard to beat 1/4" of aluminum.  ;-)



-
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*From: *"Josh Reynolds" 
*To: *wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:12:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 I have seen the reports from various people doing direct comparison 
of signal levels on the tower between kp/ubnt+rfarmor. The 
ubnt+rfarmor won in the isolation test, by far.


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 01:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

You don't need shield kits, they ship with a metal case to go
around a Rocket.  It's just one part instead of two.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 5:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:

To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard about
them, but we could never use them. No shield kit makes them
unusable to us.

The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits make
pretty much everything else obsolete, except for 45-120deg Ti
sectors with RF Armor.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

KP hands down.  Better antennas.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam" mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:

That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about
differences in
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

Thanks
Sam



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they
come with a cover for
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover
if you're using stock
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

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] On
> Behalf Of Sam
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT
and KP Performance
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to
share their experiences
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm
specifically looking at 13 dBi
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector
antennas compare as
> well.
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mike Hammett]

It is hard to beat 1/4" of aluminum. ;-) 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:12:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 


I have seen the reports from various people doing direct comparison of signal 
levels on the tower between kp/ubnt+rfarmor. The ubnt+rfarmor won in the 
isolation test, by far. 


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 08/28/2014 01:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



You don't need shield kits, they ship with a metal case to go around a Rocket. 
It's just one part instead of two. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Aug 28, 2014 5:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@spitwspots.com > wrote: 




To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard about them, but we could 
never use them. No shield kit makes them unusable to us. 

The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits make pretty much 
everything else obsolete, except for 45-120deg Ti sectors with RF Armor. 


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



KP hands down. Better antennas. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam" < w...@csilogan.com > wrote: 


That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in 
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible? 

Thanks 
Sam 



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote: 
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for 
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock 
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas. 
> 
> -Original Message- 
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> Behalf Of Sam 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM 
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 
> 
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance 
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences 
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi 
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as 
> well. 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Reynolds]

 I have seen the reports from various people doing direct comparison of 
signal levels on the tower between kp/ubnt+rfarmor. The ubnt+rfarmor won 
in the isolation test, by far.


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 01:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


You don't need shield kits, they ship with a metal case to go around a 
Rocket.  It's just one part instead of two.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 5:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds" > wrote:


To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard about them,
but we could never use them. No shield kit makes them unusable to us.

The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits make
pretty much everything else obsolete, except for 45-120deg Ti
sectors with RF Armor.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


KP hands down.  Better antennas.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam" mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:

That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

Thanks
Sam



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with
a cover for
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if
you're using stock
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

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] On
> Behalf Of Sam
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP
Performance
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
experiences
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically
looking at 13 dBi
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas
compare as
> well.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

You don't need shield kits, they ship with a metal case to go around a
Rocket.  It's just one part instead of two.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 28, 2014 5:04 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

>  To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard about them, but
> we could never use them. No shield kit makes them unusable to us.
>
> The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits make pretty much
> everything else obsolete, except for 45-120deg Ti sectors with RF Armor.
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>  On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> KP hands down.  Better antennas.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam"  wrote:
>
>> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
>> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sam
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> > I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
>> > the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
>> > Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> > Behalf Of Sam
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>> >
>> > I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
>> > antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
>> > of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Reynolds]

To be honest, I've never used a KP antenna. I've heard about them, but 
we could never use them. No shield kit makes them unusable to us.


The regular unbiquiti antennas with Chris's shield kits make pretty much 
everything else obsolete, except for 45-120deg Ti sectors with RF Armor.


Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 08/28/2014 06:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


KP hands down.  Better antennas.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam" > wrote:


That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

Thanks
Sam



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a
cover for
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
using stock
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

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] On
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> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP
Performance
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
experiences
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking
at 13 dBi
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas
compare as
> well.
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Randy Cosby]

Unfortunately the manufacturer who seems to miss crucial parts or ship 
me the wrong units (if they ship to the correct location) on a 
consistent basis is frequently late as well. So I stick tend to stick 
with UBNT for UBNT applications.



On 8/28/2014 2:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

That is of course assuming that you don't get it the day you need it.  ;-)



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




*From: *"Randy Cosby" 
*To: *"WISPA General List" 
*Sent: *Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:30:43 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Just open up all boxes and check all your parts before you go out. 
Nuts. Brackets. Cables.


I've never had a problem with missing parts on UBNT sectors.

On 8/28/2014 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you
have the right parts before you go to the job...

even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal
with getting sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything
though - for instance, I once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of
2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've been better off with the
wrong pigtails ;-)


*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Jim Patient [jpati...@linktechs.net]
*Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:01 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because
the vendor didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault. 
You should have several spares of every flavor in your truck.  If

not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show up throwing his laws around :-)

Jim Patient

Office: 314-735-0270

linktechs.net 

towercoverage.com 

ispradio.com 

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by
mistake... =P



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle
mailto:mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N
connectors on antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket. 
YMMV


-Matt

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM


*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35,
maybe the RF armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn
mailto:gregwosb...@gmail.com>> wrote:

UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we
prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.
On a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or
below, where UBNT
see one another in the -50's. On a tower without standoffs and
KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] On

Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or
all covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with
water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the
Rocket over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mike Hammett]

That is of course assuming that you don't get it the day you need it. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Randy Cosby"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:30:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 

Just open up all boxes and check all your parts before you go out. Nuts. 
Brackets. Cables. 

I've never had a problem with missing parts on UBNT sectors. 


On 8/28/2014 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: 




Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you have the right 
parts before you go to the job... 

even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal with getting 
sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything though - for instance, I 
once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of 2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've 
been better off with the wrong pigtails ;-) 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of 
Jim Patient [ jpati...@linktechs.net ] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:01 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 




If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the vendor 
didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault. You should have several 
spares of every flavor in your truck. If not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show 
up throwing his laws around :-) 


Jim Patient 
Office: 314-735-0270 
linktechs.net 
towercoverage.com 
ispradio.com 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 


Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle < 
mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com > wrote: 


KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers. KPP has N connectors on 
antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket. YMMV 
-Matt 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM 



To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 




Same radios but I had the opposite experience. I had one at -35, maybe the RF 
armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work. 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn < gregwosb...@gmail.com > wrote: 


UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp. UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT 
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP. On a grainleg 
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where UBNT 
see one another in the -50's. On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget 
it, you will have problems. 

2.4 in 10mhz cw. 


-Original Message- 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 


Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by 
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the 
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over 
the ethernet port. 
 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] on behalf of 
Sam [ w...@csilogan.com ] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets. 

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with a 
ton of interference... But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the shielding 
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all about 
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :) 


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote: 
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of 
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in 
performance between any of them. 
> 
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz? 
> 
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it 
seems somewhat pointless to me... 
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] on 
> behalf of Sam [ w...@csilogan.com ] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM 
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas 
> 
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in 
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible? 
> 
> Thanks 
> Sam 
> 

Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Randy Cosby]

Just open up all boxes and check all your parts before you go out. Nuts. 
Brackets. Cables.


I've never had a problem with missing parts on UBNT sectors.

On 8/28/2014 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you have 
the right parts before you go to the job...


even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal 
with getting sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything 
though - for instance, I once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of 
2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've been better off with the wrong 
pigtails ;-)



*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on 
behalf of Jim Patient [jpati...@linktechs.net]

*Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:01 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the 
vendor didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault.  You 
should have several spares of every flavor in your truck.  If not, 
it's a safe bet Murphy will show up throwing his laws around :-)


Jim Patient

Office: 314-735-0270

linktechs.net 

towercoverage.com 

ispradio.com 

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman

*Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle 
> wrote:


KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N 
connectors on antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV


-Matt

*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org  
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman

*Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM


*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, 
maybe the RF armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn > wrote:


UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On
a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below,
where UBNT
see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and
KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] On

Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all
covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the
Rocket over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] on behalf of
Sam [w...@csilogan.com ]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an
area with a
ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the
shielding
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm
all about
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different
brands of
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable
difference in
performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an
omni? it
seems somewhat pointless to me...
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] on
> behal

Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mathew Howard]

Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you have the right 
parts before you go to the job...

even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal with getting 
sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything though - for instance, I 
once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of 2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've 
been better off with the wrong pigtails ;-)


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Jim 
Patient [jpati...@linktechs.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the vendor 
didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault.  You should have several 
spares of every flavor in your truck.  If not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show 
up throwing his laws around :-)


Jim Patient
Office: 314-735-0270
linktechs.net
towercoverage.com
ispradio.com



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle 
mailto:mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N connectors on 
antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV
-Matt

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe the RF 
armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn 
mailto:gregwosb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where UBNT
see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with a
ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the shielding
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all about
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
seems somewhat pointless to me...
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
>> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
>> using stock

Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

It's not the vendor's fault the job didn't get done that day, no.  It is
the vendors fault you got the wrong part.

Murphy's law is more of a way of life for WISPs it seems.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

> If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the
> vendor didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault.  You should
> have several spares of every flavor in your truck.  If not, it's a safe bet
> Murphy will show up throwing his laws around :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Patient
>
> Office: 314-735-0270
>
> linktechs.net 
>
> towercoverage.com 
>
> ispradio.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
>
>
> Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle <
> mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N
> connectors on antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM
>
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
>
>
> Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe
> the RF armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn 
> wrote:
>
> UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
> because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a
> grainleg
> platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where
> UBNT
> see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
> it, you will have problems.
>
> 2.4 in 10mhz cw.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>
> Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
> the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
> connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
> the ethernet port.
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
> Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.
>
> I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with
> a
> ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the
> shielding
> is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all
> about
> using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
> dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
> performance between any of them.
> >
> > Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
> >
> > Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
> seems somewhat pointless to me...
> > 
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
> > behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
> >
> > That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> > performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> >> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
> >> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
> >> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Sam
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
> >>
> >> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
> >> antennas (with Rockets) who wou

Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Jim Patient]

If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because the vendor 
didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault.  You should have several 
spares of every flavor in your truck.  If not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show 
up throwing his laws around :-)

 

 

Jim Patient

Office: 314-735-0270

linktechs.net  

towercoverage.com  

ispradio.com   

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 

Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle 
 wrote:

KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N connectors on 
antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV

-Matt

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 

Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe the RF 
armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn  wrote:

UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a 
grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where 
UBNT
see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, 
forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all 
covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket 
over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf 
of
Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area 
with a
ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the 
shielding
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all 
about
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different 
brands of
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? 
it
seems somewhat pointless to me...
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
> behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
>> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
>> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On Behalf Of Sam
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>>
>> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
>> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
>> exper

Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by mistake... =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle <
mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N
> connectors on antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
>
>
> Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe
> the RF armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn 
> wrote:
>
> UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
> because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a
> grainleg
> platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where
> UBNT
> see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
> it, you will have problems.
>
> 2.4 in 10mhz cw.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>
> Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
> the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
> connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
> the ethernet port.
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
> Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.
>
> I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with
> a
> ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the
> shielding
> is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all
> about
> using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
> dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
> performance between any of them.
> >
> > Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
> >
> > Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
> seems somewhat pointless to me...
> > 
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
> > behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
> >
> > That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> > performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> >> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
> >> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
> >> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Sam
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
> >>
> >> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
> >> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
> >> experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically
> >> looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector
> >> antennas compare as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Sam
> >> ___
> >> Wireless mailing list
> >> Wireless@wispa.org
> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
> >> ___
> >> Wireless mailing list
> >> Wireless@wispa.org
> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
> >>
> >
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> >
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>
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Matt Brendle]

KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N connectors on 
antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket.  YMMV

-Matt

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

 

Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe the RF 
armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn mailto:gregwosb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where UBNT
see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org   
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org  ] On

Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org   
[wireless-boun...@wispa.org  ] on behalf of
Sam [w...@csilogan.com  ]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with a
ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the shielding
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all about
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
seems somewhat pointless to me...
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org   
> [wireless-boun...@wispa.org  ] on
> behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com  ]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
>> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
>> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org   
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org  ]
>> On Behalf Of Sam
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>>
>> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
>> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
>> experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically
>> looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector
>> antennas compare as well.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sam
>> ___
>> Wireless mailing list
>> Wireless@wispa.org  
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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>
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[WISPA] Service in Oakford, IL

[Adam Vocks]

Hello all,

 

One of my employees asked me if I know of anyone who provides internet
service in Oakford, IL.  I have no other details than that.

 

If you're in that area let me know.

 

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[WISPA] need Nanobridge Dishes / Hardware

[John Vogel]

I am in need of hardware kits (18db dish, mounting brackets, ubolts 
etc.) for Nanobridge M2s. I know I have seen posts where some of you are 
accumulating these things. I am short. Need about 50 or so...

Hit me off-list with pricing if you can help.
Thanks!

--
John Vogel - President
JMZ Corporation - dba KwiKom Communications
http://kwikom.com/  620-365-7782
jvo...@vogent.net



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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35, maybe the
RF armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn  wrote:

> UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
> because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a
> grainleg
> platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where
> UBNT
> see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
> it, you will have problems.
>
> 2.4 in 10mhz cw.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mathew Howard
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
> the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
> connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
> the ethernet port.
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
> Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.
>
> I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with
> a
> ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the
> shielding
> is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all
> about
> using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
> dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
> performance between any of them.
> >
> > Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
> >
> > Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
> seems somewhat pointless to me...
> > 
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
> > behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
> >
> > That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> > performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> >> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
> >> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
> >> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Sam
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
> >>
> >> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
> >> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
> >> experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically
> >> looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector
> >> antennas compare as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Sam
> >> ___
> >> Wireless mailing list
> >> Wireless@wispa.org
> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
> >> ___
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> >> Wireless@wispa.org
> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
> >>
> >
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Greg Osborn]

UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.  On a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or below, where UBNT
see one another in the -50's.  On a tower without standoffs and KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area with a
ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with the shielding
is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without it. I'm all about
using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of
dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in
performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it
seems somewhat pointless to me...
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on 
> behalf of Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in 
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover 
>> for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're 
>> using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>>
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>> On Behalf Of Sam
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>> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>>
>> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance 
>> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their 
>> experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically 
>> looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector 
>> antennas compare as well.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mathew Howard]

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or all covered by the 
shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with water in the connectors, 
and you can throw away that annoying cover on the Rocket over the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Sam 
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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area
with a ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with
the shielding is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without
it. I'm all about using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of 
> dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in 
> performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it 
> seems somewhat pointless to me...
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
> Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
>> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
>> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>>
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>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sam
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>>
>> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
>> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
>> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
>> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
>> well.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Sam]

Mathew, these are for 2. GHz Rockets.

I was wondering about the shielding as well. Unless you're in an area 
with a ton of interference...  But as was mentioned, the KP omni with 
the shielding is the same price basically as the same UBNT model without 
it. I'm all about using stuff that's included at no additional charge :)


On 8/28/2014 10:00, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of 
> dual polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in 
> performance between any of them.
>
> Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
>
> Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it 
> seems somewhat pointless to me...
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
> Sam [w...@csilogan.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
>> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
>> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sam
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>>
>> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
>> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
>> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
>> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
>> well.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Mathew Howard]

I haven't used any KPP omnis, but I have used several different brands of dual 
polarity omnis and I haven't really seen any notable difference in performance 
between any of them.

Are you looking at 2.4ghz or 5ghz?

Is there really a lot of benefit to shielding the radio with an omni? it seems 
somewhat pointless to me...

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Sam 
[w...@csilogan.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

Thanks
Sam



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Sam
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
> well.
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Josh Luthman]

KP hands down.  Better antennas.

Josh Luthman
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On Aug 28, 2014 10:29 AM, "Sam"  wrote:

> That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
> performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> > I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
> > the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
> > Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sam
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
> >
> > I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
> > antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
> > of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
> > omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
> > well.
> >
> > Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Sam]

That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in 
performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

Thanks
Sam



On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
> the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
> Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Sam
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
>
> I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
> antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
> of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
> omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
> well.
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Andy Trimmell]

I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
Rockets with stock UBNT antennas. 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Sam
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
well.

Thanks
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[WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Sam]

I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance 
antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences 
of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi 
omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as well.

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