Re: [WISPA] awesome mount

[Andy Trimmell]

Nothing more permanent than a temporary install.



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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:46 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] awesome mount

This was done by a former tech that "forgot" to fix his temp mount several 
years ago due to insufficient parts availability. The Canopy belongs to a 
computer store who called last night a few minutes before 5 PM. They were cool 
with us coming down at 8 this morning. A few minutes later the bar that uses 
the UBNT called saying their point of sale system was down during Wing Night. 
My tech had just left for the day to go to his martial arts class so I was 
stuck making the fix. Was I surprised to see this monstrosity with the bolts 
pulled out of the OSB board and laying on its side. Fortunately there were a 
few dish network roof mounts laying around with extra bricks to get me by
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Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts

[Andy Trimmell]

One tip for the Skywalker mount (I used them all the time they're great) is to 
use a die set and retool all the screws or you will have issues taking them off 
and putting them on. 

 

They used crappy tool and die and its painful if you don't. It's time consuming 
I know but do it or you'll hate yourself.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:13 PM
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I don't have my order handy, but Skywalker was under $10.

On 10/3/2014 6:24 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:

I finally found some at katerno.com that we are going to try.  Spending 
between $20 and $40 for what we were spending $8 on seemed difficult to deal 
with.

Kevin

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 3:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts

 

Mowinet sells them says out of stuck right now tho

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On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Kevin Owen  wrote:

Thanks Scott and Louis. 

We will take a look. 

Kevin 


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We just ordered similar product from Skywalker. 

On 10/3/2014 2:58 PM, Louis Arsenault wrote: 
> http://aisatellite.com/products#Eaves-Mounts 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Kevin Owen  
wrote: 
>> Awhile back someone posted some information about a 
particular mount 
>> they really liked. It was similar to the one below. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Item #: MTPEVE: 
>> 
http://www.summitsource.com/eagle-satellite-dish-gable-eave-mount-bra 
>> 
cket-universal-support-outdoor-hdtv-antenna-aerials-with-swivel-easy- 
>> mount-setup-part-perfect-evemnt-p-6109.html 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We tried them out and the guys loved them. Problem is 
SummitSource 
>> has been and expects to remain out of stock. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anybody have another source for these types of mounts? 
>> 
>> thanks, 
>> 
>> Kevin 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

[Andy Trimmell]

I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for
the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock
Rockets with stock UBNT antennas. 

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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance
antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences
of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi
omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as
well.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] package ideas

[Andy Trimmell]

you can add about $10-20 in taxes and fees on ATT here in Indiana. That
also goes for all the telecoms like Endeavor, Comcast, etc.

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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] package ideas

Always check to see what the price add-ons are for those services...
Is AT*T charging the $5/month modem fee?  How about the USF fee?   That
$34.95 could be closer to $45 when they get done and that needs to be
clear to who you are selling to...

On 05/07/2014 10:47 PM, John Thomas wrote:
> My suggestion was only relative to your current pricing.
> 
> For reference, AT&T UVerse in my area is $34.95 for 6 Meg down, and 
> 768 k up, and when you go past 150 gigs in a month, it's $10 for each 
> 50 gigs. Charter is bragging about 30 megs down, and 4 megs up, capped

> at
> 250 gig ( I think) for $29.95 (12 month promo), however, they have it 
> oversubscribed so bad I have run speed tests to Charters speedtest 
> server and got 30 kilobits per second down-not a good way to impress a
> $100 per month Business class customer.
> 
> 
> Greg Osborn  wrote:
> 
> It's gotta make dollars to make sense.  You might have to explain 
> that the cable/telcos don't come for them for that reason.  If they 
> can't get a high take rate, they can't make money either.
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *wi...@mncomm.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2014 5:25 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] package ideas
> 
>  
> 
> is that something you've done and people pay for that? I need to do 
> some market research for these customers. A lot of customers are 
> "stuck" with me, might leave a bad taste when in town customers can 
> get 30 meg for
> $50 or so a month. I have customers beating me for more speeds but I 
> have a lot that think they are getting robbed at what they get now LOL
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*John Thomas 
> 
> *Sent:*Tuesday, May 06, 2014 3:51 PM
> 
> *To:*WISPA General List 
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] package ideas
> 
>  
> 
> How about adding 5 Meg at $79, then 10 Meg at $109?
> 
> 
> 
> wi...@mncomm.com  wrote:
> 
> So, I am going to be twisting on the owners soon. I need to start 
> offering different packages to our customers, getting tired of people 
> wanting more speed. If they want more than everyone they need to pay 
> for it. So, aside from special instances, the vast majority of our 
> subs pay
> $45 per month for unlimited usage. No real statement on speed, but 
> typically we set most to a stream of 1.6 meg or so, enough where they 
> can run Netflix in basic definition with no buffering. We have some 
> set to a little more depending on needs. If I can get by they usually 
> get
> 512 up & down with some bursting, but those are far and few between 
> with streaming media.
> 
>  
> 
> I was thinking of setting all of those users to 1.5 or 2 meg for the 
> $45 and jumping to a 5 meg package for $69 per month. I currently 
> charge most businesses $69, they may not get much more speed just 
> expedited service from us if they have issues. I was also thinking, if

> I can stretch it out, to 10 meg for $100 a month.
> 
>  
> 
> We are negotiating for more bandwidth from our upstream shortly, I 
> believe our towers are capable of of meeting these needs for the most 
> part. If not I am hoping the prospect of selling more will offset the 
> additional upgrade costs
> 
>  
> 
> I figure if only 10 percent of the $45 customers upgraded to $69 it 
> would generate an additional $50k a year.
> 
>  
> 
> Anyways I wanted to throw it out to you folks to see what they have 
> experienced in doing similar situations. I am sure I will get some 
> back lash from certain areas where a competitor might be able to do 
> something better or cheaper or customers that want it all for nothing,

> the ones who think they are getting screwed anyways
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone use these?

[Andy Trimmell]

Here's where I get mine.

http://skywalker.com/Products/Aska-AMT-2-DBS-Dish-GableEve-Mount__ASK1012.aspx

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone use these?

 

Awesome!

I talked with these same exact guys a half hour ago on the phone and they 
didn’t have the previous part number in stock, but failed to locate these for 
me. Thanks for the help!

 

heith

 

From: Scott Reed   

Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:20 PM

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone use these?

 

This looks like a different manufacturer
http://www.summitsource.com/eagle-satellite-dish-gable-eave-mount-bracket-universal-support-outdoor-hdtv-antenna-aerials-with-swivel-easy-mount-setup-part-perfect-evemnt-p-6109.html

On 3/11/2014 12:52 PM, heith petersen wrote:

 
image
 

My guys have been using the piss out of these for the last few years. 
Creates a real stable mount to and adjusts real nicely to the pitch of your 
standard fascia. Anyways this company, GEM, has quit manufacturing them. If 
anyone else uses a similar device and knows who might have some in stock that 
would be great. Maybe something Wireless Beehive could make

 

thanks

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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Andy Trimmell]

I've blown out countless Mikrotik boards without shielded cable. 

 

I use Primus or Apex9 shielded cable and I get them from Tiffany Jones @ CTI. 
Primus is my first choice though.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

 

Fair enough

 

From: Scott Reed   

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:10 AM

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

 

We do not use UBNT, so I can not help you with that.

On 1/23/2014 9:02 AM, heith petersen wrote:

Are you using the unshielded for UBNT installs? I have started to to 
avoid radio defaulting due to crap cable install. Well, I havent seen the 
cables myself but they were unshielded and may have taken a surge of sorts.

 

From: Scott Reed   

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:31 AM

To: WISPA General List   

Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

 

Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations.
Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers.

On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote:

I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also 
heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same 
cable for towers and installs so there is that option 

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:

UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use

Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote:

Just looking for what others are using for 
boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a 
certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the 
ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from 
the BS from earlier go arounds

 

thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment

[Andy Trimmell]

This helps thanks.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 7:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment

 

is the bottle neck on your network the fiber connection out to the
Internet or at your APs?

 

for us the APs are the biggest bottleneck and the fiber internet
connection (GigE) has plenty of bandwidth.

 

so in our case a cache server wouldn't do much except chew a hole in my
wallet.  If your connection out to the internet is your bottleneck then
it may help some but I wouldn't expect it to help more than 10%.

 

2 cents

 

 

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Tyson Shreeves  wrote:

We have been looking at a setup from Allot networks.  The setup is
called a net enforcer, netxplorer, and a SMP server.  Its a bandwidth
management solution, but what interested me the most was the ability to
cache videos and prioritize different web traffic to optimize streaming
movies.  Any experiences with this equipment or information would be
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

[Andy Trimmell]

I've been using Primus cable from CTI. I love it.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

 

I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable for 
months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don’t know if I could sell our partner 
on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the office for an install 
out in the field

 

From: Clay Stewart   

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM

To: dco...@infowest.com ; WISPA General List   

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

 

Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very good and 
we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier is in using 
UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4" second shield as the 
cable is too thick at the outer jacket.

 

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential installs.   
Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box is a bit heavy 
- a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.  The Carrier version 
is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.

In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey 
flakes after being in the sun  a few days. 

 

On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the 
plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a box 
now!!!

 


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
 wrote:

Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using 
more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked on 
the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were using for 
something easier to work with

 

thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

[Andy Trimmell]

We've haven't had much luck with our UBNT 365 ptmp setups either. Not
that they're horrible but it's not giving us optimal performance. Also
don't think that you're going to make shots through a grove of trees
because it's not going to work. "A" tree maybe but you're pushing it.
I've got a neighborhood with about a dozen or less customers on each
sector (2 sectors total) and the capacity sucks but i'm also using 5mhz
channels.

I have everyone at -70 or better and we're seeing 50% quality 50%
capacity. All shots under 1/4 mile. 

Dear God I hope Cambium comes out with a 450 3.65ghz solution because
the options we have right now are downright horrid.



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Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:32 PM
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I have to agree with Gino.  I have not had much luck with M365 PTMP
setup.  PTP is fine but you only have 25MHz to use.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

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Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

Don't do it??  Where'd that come from.

There's really only two models of CPEs in the 3.65 world... the
NanoStation and the NanoBridge.  The NanoStation will be good for about
a mile clear line of site.  The NanoBridge will be good a few miles out,
and perhaps closer with a small obstruction (bush, single tree, etc).

3GHz requires nearly clear line of site to operate properly.

You must register your 3GHz with the FCC and pay the $200 license fee.

You must coordinate with grandfathered earth stations if there are any
near you.


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On 7/31/13 11:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Hey it could work...
>
> Why are you replacing the gear?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:
>> Don't do it...
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:01 AM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site
>>
>> We are putting up a 3.65 GHz system next week to take existing
customers off of an existing Canopy 2.4GHz system.
>>
>> Is there anyone who has deployed the 3 Ghz gear from Ubnt and could
recommend which model of CPE and if there anything to know to avoid a
steep 'learning curve' since we have never deployed anything from
Ubiquiti until now.
>>
>> Suggestions as to the best prices are most welcome too!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Daniel
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Re: [WISPA] DIN rail mount front facing POE injector

[Andy Trimmell]

I 3rd that!

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DIN rail mount front facing POE injector

 

Yes it does!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 17, 2013 9:50 AM, "Scott Reed"  wrote:

Works great!!

On 7/17/2013 9:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

PacketFlux.  4 or 8 ports.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Jul 17, 2013 8:59 AM, "heith petersen" 
wrote:

Is anyone using a compact but high capacity POE injector that
DIN rails mounts? We have used a lot of the devices that we have
pictured but they are a pain to install in small cabinets, plus their
only cable plug is from the side. I have seen a lot on the net, but
mostly 1 or 2 port models. 


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Re: [WISPA] # of subs per ap

[Andy Trimmell]

I wouldn't exceed 30 either with each AP.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of jrichard...@aircloud.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:58 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] # of subs per ap

 

With 5x5 and 5x3 sustained ~30.

 

 

~Jerry

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Terry White
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 11:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] # of subs per ap

 

I have put up 2 UBNT 3.65 ap on a tower with a 60 mg fiber backhaul. I
have set the Aps to 10 MHZ Channel and was going to offer a 5x5 or a
5x3. how many subs should I expect to be able to put on each ap

 

Thanks 

 

Terry White

United Services

(800) 585 - 6454

twh...@ueci.coop

  

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Airband acquired

[Andy Trimmell]

you can also put yourself on vacation in the list. just login to your
account.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:58 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband acquired

 

That's why it's smart to use a secondary address for list traffic...

 

 

Regards,

 

Jeff Broadwick

Bitlomat Sales Director

847-238-2481 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

www.bitlomat.com

https://www.facebook.com/Bitlomat

http://www.linkedin.com/company/bitlomat

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Coenraad Loubser
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:06 PM
To: WISPA General List; atrimm...@precisionds.com
Cc: mbuss...@designnine.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired

 

You're begging for another response! :-p Perhaps we should demand a full
hike report or set of photos instead? 

PS. Smart mail software has an option to only respond if you are
explicitly in the list of recipients, so as to avoid this exact
scenario.

 

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Please turn off autoreply while you're on your extended hike.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of mbuss...@designnine.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 12:12 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired

I will be on vacation from 5-5-2013 to 5-13-2013. I will be on an
extended hike and will truly have no access to phone or email. Please
contact Mike Vellines for assistance (mvelli...@designnine.com,
540.951.4400).

Thanks,
Matt


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Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired

[Andy Trimmell]

Please turn off autoreply while you're on your extended hike.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of mbuss...@designnine.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 12:12 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired

I will be on vacation from 5-5-2013 to 5-13-2013. I will be on an
extended hike and will truly have no access to phone or email. Please
contact Mike Vellines for assistance (mvelli...@designnine.com,
540.951.4400).

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Short UBNT PTP link

[Andy Trimmell]

For shear cost effectiveness I'd agree with Josh. You're going to be
falling a bit short of 50Mbps full duplex if you go with Rocket gear.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:14 PM
To: us...@wug.cc
Cc: WISPA General List; a...@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Short UBNT PTP link

 

Ubnt at 20 MHz will get you at most 80 megs aggregate.  If you need 50
fdx you're falling short.

 

If you're using 3.65 I'm not sure what your other options would be,
Redline is more carrier grade but I'm not sure of the bandwidth.
Depending on the price of carrier grade stuff it might just be easier to
do AirFiber.




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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

Hi Gang,

 

I am looking at installing a short (100m) PTP backhaul across a
campground for a wifi system we are putting in.  I'm looking at using a
pair of UBNT NSM365 units to accomplish this.  I need about 50Mbps full
duplex.  I'd like to use the 3.65Ghz spectrum for this PTP so that i
keep all my other part15 spectrum clean.

 

Is this the best option or do you have another recommendation.  

 

I'm a bit new to UBNT and not completely familiar with the product line.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

-sean

 


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

[Andy Trimmell]

I'd recommend the standard of making sure APs are on one tower and
slaves are on the other. 



AP-AP
|   \
SL   SL
+ +
SL SL
|\
APAP

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:49 AM
To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

Hi All

I was wondering what is your experience on Airfiber. In particular my
question is if the following scenario could work or not work in your
opinion/experience

On tower at LocationA there are two Airfiber pointing at the same
direction LocationB and LocationC, more or less.
On the tower at LocationA, the two airfibers are mounted at let's say
1-2 meters distance (horizontal and vertical) and 10 degrees of
difference in the 2 directions LocationB and LocationC.
LocationB and LocationC are two other towers both pointing at LocationA.

I am wondering if at 24Ghz I could see some interference or not , in
this situaitons

Thank you in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Medical companies

[Andy Trimmell]

We also have a ton of customers that work for hospitals.  There's no
reason why they can't use your service. I've argued with IT guys for big
companies like Eli Lilly when we set customers up with WPA or WPA2 on
their routers and their company laptop won't connect because they only
allow WEP. Ironic eh?  Encryption that can be cracked in under a minute
and they're worried about a WISP. 

 

Once the VPN connection is made it shouldn't matter what kind of
internet they have.  I do see requirements for speed is going up though
in some cases. We did have a lady leave our service because her work
requirement 4Mbps and we could only serve her 1.5Mbps in the forest she
lived in.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Andy Trimmell

Systems Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

@PDSWireless

www.facebook.com/PDSWireless

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Asher
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Medical companies

 

Hello All,

I have someone who wants to work from home, they work for a hospital
and the hospital
says they have to use dsl and wireless is not allowed. Is this a law,
maybe hipaa?  Thank
you for any info.

-- 
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Atm-Internet 
765-792-6165 

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Re: [WISPA] Slides

[Andy Trimmell]

He let us know at the closing ceremony.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slides

Thanks,
I had not heard that.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 10/31/12 9:19 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> Nathan said it would be middle to end of this week.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:58 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slides
>
> I suspect there will be an announcement when they are.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:58:28 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Slides
>
> Are the slides from the various presentations up yet?
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Re: [WISPA] Slides

[Andy Trimmell]

Nathan said it would be middle to end of this week. 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slides

I suspect there will be an announcement when they are.



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- Original Message -
From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:58:28 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Slides

Are the slides from the various presentations up yet?
-- 

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Re: [WISPA] Fax VoIP solution

[Andy Trimmell]

Since we get about 10 faxes a year we use Fax.com

 

Easy to send and receive. You can add email addresses that are able to
send to it and as easy as sending an email to 317...@fax.com sends
it to the phone number 317-555-. 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:19 PM
To: a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Fax VoIP solution

 

Just talked to someone who has been having good luck with this solution.
Put a server in your NOC and then the AudioCodes device is $150

 

http://www.faxback.com/  


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti and thunderstorm issue

[Andy Trimmell]

Since we had the first issue like this we started using industrial cisco
switches at each site with spanning tree on. That at least shuts the
port off until we can find the bad radio instead of ruining the entire
tower.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Joey Craig
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:10 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti and thunderstorm issue

 

Has happened to us several times over the past 2 years. 

Just figured the static from the lightning messed with the radio. We
have tried doing the firmware recovery procedure, but the problem
continued even on the bench testing. It acted like someone plugged their
router in backwards. 

Finally decided to just throw them in the trash figuring lightning
damage was not covered under the warranty. We never investigated it any
further.

 

Joey Craig 

Network/RF Engineer

Firenet1.Com <http://www.firenet1.com/> 

Phone:  (662) 510-0764

Mobile: (662) 404-1118



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Arthur Stephens
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:47 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti and thunderstorm issue

 

This has also occurred with NS2 and NSM365.
The network is running really slow to no internet for customers after a
lighting storm rolls thru. Ping an AP on the network and you get 2 reply
then 2 timeouts 2 reply 2 timeouts repeatedly. Looking at the ARP table
of the Mikrotik router for that network and one MAC is registered to a
lot of ip addresses belonging to other equipment on the network (The
device also announces that it owns the gateway also). Locate the device
for that mac and log into that device, (keeping deleting the arp tables
entries in order to get there) and Disable the LAN interface. I ARP
stealing stops. Replacing the radio is the long term fix.
This has happened quite a few times after lightning storms and across
all the different devices made by Ubiquiti. Reloading or upgrading
firmware has no effect. Today we had one on one network and two on a
different network. With two of them it was even harder to fix. Had to
MAC access deny the radios to get service restored on the network.

Are we the only one with this issue? Has some one else had this issue
and found a fix? 


 

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Ptera Wireless Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
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Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

[Andy Trimmell]

I have a little Acer netbook that I take up with me. It weighs as much as an 
ipad. I just hate that I cant see it in the sunlight very good.

-Original Message-
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Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method

Many android tablets have ethernet ports.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Android-2-3-PC-Netbook-Tablet-4GB-Superpad-GPS-HDMI-Camera-Bundle-/261026229869?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3cc6602e6d

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Kunze  wrote:
> At 11:05 AM 5/16/2012, you wrote:
>>Trying to figure out a good way to do site surveys and monitor signal 
>>strength while on the customer's roof
>
> To this day, I'm still using the same iPad PDA I used 12 years ago 
> when I bought it.  I've not seen anything come along that would replace it.
>
> It's a PDA with the "accessory pack" thing attached, so that I can run 
> an Orinoco PCMCIA card in it.  Someone back then whipped up driver for 
> WinCE so that the Orinico card worked.  (Lonnie)  With that and a hand 
> held small tubular yagi, it works like a charm.  It reads 802.11b only 
> of course.  Shows other AP's, signal strength, noise floor, etc.  I 
> use a 15db yagi and pigtail to the Orinoco.  Climb onto the roof, 
> sweep for signal, read the level, and you can easily calculate margin 
> for various alternative antennas.
>
> What I'd really like to find is a hand held device like that with an 
> Etnernet port.  It seems nobody puts Ethernet ports in anything 
> smaller than a laptop and even that's getting replaced more and more 
> with wireless.
>
> Rk
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Andy Trimmell]

One customer that knows enough to be dangerous runs around town telling 20 
people they hate your service. 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

 

Yes there are. But the ones who don't know what you are doing cost 
you money, time, and reputation.

 

Had one guy just the other day called every time his Internet went 
out. This had been going on for 3 days.   It would go out for 3-4 minutes at a 
time. He's a gamer and belongs to some Clan.  Guy was so irate one of the 
younger techs went out and sat with him for an hour. During that time his 
Internet went out 3 times.   Tech breaks out a 751, hooks it up, Internet lasts 
an hour. Hooks his router backup and within 15 minutes Internet goes out.  

 

We were willing to give him the 751 and just charge him for the 
service call. The Customers response was "I paid $200 for this gaming router. 
If you can't make it work I am switching".  Even if we installed our own router 
he was going to hook up his gaming router anyway because the box said 
"optimized for online gaming".

 

Service was pulled, he want to the 15 meg Wild Blue, and now he is begging to 
come back because he can't deal with 700ms ping times.

 

This customer was so clueless and such a loud mouth he scared away 
3 installs, not to mention all the support time. That is why we don't install 
software. Most of the time we si the customer in front of the computer and walk 
them through the configuration. No room for "I don't know what they did to my 
computer but now my printer doesn't work." 

 

 

 

Justin

 

From: Al Stewart 
Reply-To: , WISPA General List 
Date: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:54 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

 

Been following this thread ... seems like you guys assume that ALL your 
customers, and ALL users of internet are total idiots with crappy equipment. 
Surely there are some who have decent equipment and know what they are doing. 
:-)

Al
    
    
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You really think customers listen? I had a lady blame us for lightning 
hitting her TV. People are going to blame you regardless of how much money you 
lose on them. We also keep routers separate of our responsibility. We do 
require our customers to have one at the time of the installation and we set it 
up for them.  We explain that our responsibility starts at the little 
white/black box (injector) includes the cable and the unit on the roof. 
Anything else is their problem.
 
We have a nifty screen that pops up when their router is on DHCP 
letting them know that they‚re „internet is working great! But oops! Your 
router has lost its configuration‰ „here‚s the instructions in this pdf or you 
can call us for a $30 router setup.‰ „you‚re also welcome to bring in the 
router for us to configure free of charge.‰
 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> ] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
 
They should have no reason to do that and if they do, they're only 
causing problems for themselves with double or triple NAT. I make it clear when 
I install that the router I give them is the only router they can use and I 
will fix/replace it free of charge if THEY don't break it. If they cause an 
issue with my equipment or by adding another router and they expect me to fix 
it, there will be a charge. If they follow my instructions, they will be taken 
care of.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your 
provided router?
 
From: Darin Steffl 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM

To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
 

I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to control 
everything up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which means I 
provide the router.  I hear from too many people that blame their ISP like 
Charter or the phone company for bad internet when much of the time it is their 
own wireless router.  That same bad mouthing will happen for my company if the 
customer continues to use crappy rou

Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Andy Trimmell]

You really think customers listen? I had a lady blame us for lightning
hitting her TV. People are going to blame you regardless of how much
money you lose on them. We also keep routers separate of our
responsibility. We do require our customers to have one at the time of
the installation and we set it up for them.  We explain that our
responsibility starts at the little white/black box (injector) includes
the cable and the unit on the roof. Anything else is their problem.

 

We have a nifty screen that pops up when their router is on DHCP letting
them know that they're "internet is working great! But oops! Your router
has lost its configuration" "here's the instructions in this pdf or you
can call us for a $30 router setup." "you're also welcome to bring in
the router for us to configure free of charge."

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

 

They should have no reason to do that and if they do, they're only
causing problems for themselves with double or triple NAT. I make it
clear when I install that the router I give them is the only router they
can use and I will fix/replace it free of charge if THEY don't break it.
If they cause an issue with my equipment or by adding another router and
they expect me to fix it, there will be a charge. If they follow my
instructions, they will be taken care of.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:

How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your
provided router?

 

From: Darin Steffl 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 

Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM


To: WISPA General List 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

 

I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to
control everything up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which
means I provide the router.  I hear from too many people that blame
their ISP like Charter or the phone company for bad internet when much
of the time it is their own wireless router.  That same bad mouthing
will happen for my company if the customer continues to use crappy
routers so I thought I would provide one to them, configure it, lock it,
and replace it if it ever fails.  That way, I am handing out something
reliable that works and if they need help, I'm there to fix it for them.
In my opinion, that should cut down on tech support calls if the router
is stable. 

 

I am currently testing the Ubiquiti Airrouters and the TP-Link
TL-WR841N

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:

I would avoid the 751 for now based on my hell of an
experience.  That's just me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Apr 26, 2012 6:27 PM, "Justin Wilson"
 wrote:

My Take on routers.

 

Off the shelf routers are the #1 trouble issue
on the Zig network.  Anything from gaming issues, to speed issues, to
reliability issues. They account for roughly 92% of all calls.  The
first thing we have the customer do after reboots of everything is
bypass the router. Most of the time this shows the customer it's their
router, or something behind it.

 

In our past life we started out selling routers.
We looked for the cheapest ones we could find, which at the time were
dlink. What we found was customers then considered that our equipment.
"Well the router you sold me went out." was something we heard a lot. Or
"I reset the router now you have to come out and configure it"

 

What we are doing this time around is we have
only one officially approved router. The Mikrotik 751. We have a local
computer shop which stocks them and sets them up.  What he does as far
as support is between him and the customer. I am pretty sure he tells
them he is just a retailer for the product and if they want his help he
will gladly charge them his hourly rate. All about expectations up
front.

 

By doing all of this we are not in the router
business, but the customer gets a solid product and cuts down on our
calls. In turn we have a happier customer base. And if need be, we can
actually login to their router and do torch, etc.

 

Justin

 

From: Darin Steffl 
Reply-To: WISPA General List

Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:31 PM
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Routers

 

Hey guys,

Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

Exactly!

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Oshatz.


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. 

 

I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add
anything.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.


Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our
rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Before and After.


Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

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Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. 

 

I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add
anything.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our
rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Before and After.


Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our
rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

Before and After.


Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

[Andy Trimmell]

I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what
kind of questions people would go with.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz

 

Jay maybe?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, "Andy Trimmell" 
wrote:

I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz
they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it
from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire
someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people
for the job. 

 

Anyone know?

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211  

 


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Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

[Andy Trimmell]

We use Cisco E1000 E1200 WRT54g. We also found out that WRT110 120 and
300 320 do not pass traffic through PPPoE no matter what you do. We're
also using a Microsoft network if that question was to come up.

 

I've also found out that Belkin's are horrible for staying connected and
Netgears by default are dial on demand instead of Keep Alive.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Phil Curnutt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:45 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question

 

We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are
having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and
reconnecting.  Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router
that works best on your wireless network?

 

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

 

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth
for 2 omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's
worth it.


Regards,
Chuck



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein 
wrote:

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Andy Trimmell]

I sent you offlist because of the abundance of negative comments I have
about them. 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Gotstein
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SBA Towers

Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP 
friendly?  Any estimates on costs?

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[WISPA] New employee quiz

[Andy Trimmell]

I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz
they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it
from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire
someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people
for the job. 

 

Anyone know?

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Payment Drop-off

[Andy Trimmell]

This is a real sticky subject. We had a problem like this and had to post a 
warning not allowing customers to drop off cash payments. The other problem was 
people were dropping off checks and putting them in the door because they 
didn’t see the drop box and the checks just blew away when someone opened the 
door. I would be very leery of taking cash drop offs in any case. I will only 
take cash when they’re handed from one hand to another hand.

 

But if it’s a must I’d put a ubnt camera on it and make a drop box cut out on 
the office like at the bank.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of gregosb...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Payment Drop-off

 

We were looking at lock boxes at lowest... That plus a ubnt camera seems like a 
solution for under $150 

Sent from my android device.



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Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:22 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Payment Drop-off

We are outfitting a new office location. We have customer that, for 
whatever reason, like to drop-off their payments which are sometimes 
cash. So, I am looking for suggestions on what to use for a secure 
payment drop-box. If you accept after hours drop-off payments, what do 
you use to collect them?

-- 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

[Andy Trimmell]

That's a pretty good range of what I've heard also. 30-50. 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

Unfortunately you asked a question that doesn't have a great solid
answer.

You're going to need to monitor throughput usage on the sector to really

answer that question for you.

However, with that said, you can probably get upwards of 30-50 on a 
sector without issue.


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On 1/17/12 10:58 AM, Carl Shivers wrote:
> We are planning to sell a mixture of speeds using our Ubiquiti 3.65
APs;
> 1,3,5 and 10 Mbps circuits. We are a bit concerned on how many clients
> we can get on each AP. Does anyone have some stats on this? Most of
our
> customers would be in the 1 and 3 Mbps range. Only a few are
purchasing
> the 5 and 10 Mbps circuits.
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[WISPA] Doppler

[Andy Trimmell]

Looking at northern Missouri on wunderground.com I can see a streak
going northwest of St Louis skimming north of Macon and south of
Kirksville. Anyone out there blasting equipment?

 

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage

[Andy Trimmell]

Definitely a good way to look at it. We actually took AT&T's plan and
doubled it to show how fair we were. 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage

 

I believe Excessive usage should be calculated by considering the
average use.  Ignore the top 5% and lower 5% users, then add up all
those in between and divide by the number of subs considered, and taht
will give a good average.  If 50G is the average, its OK if one guy does
75, if its matched by a guy that only does 25. Thats what over
subscription and averaging is all about.

 

Then you need to calculate your total available capacity. Then you need
to calculate your "total" cost to deliver that capacity.  Until you have
those numbers, you dont really know what you should charge for averge
usage. Is average usage above or below your cost to deliver, from a per
GB point of view? How much growth in average use can you tolerate, and
still be profitable? I'd suggest doubleing average usage, and start
charging extra per GB, once it exceeds that value of doubling average
use.   

 

But even then, that misses the boat. You really need to define how many
subs you want to be able to serve per sector, and then calaculate the
maximum tolerable average use able to be accommodated on your
technology. What ever that number is, you then need to compare it to
what your current average use is.

 

When I calculate cost, I pretend I have half the badnwdit h that I have.
If its a 10mb sector, I consider it 5mb. That allows the business model
to work during growth phase, understanding that you'll need to upgrade
to handle demand before a network is saturated. And factoring that a
network works less good when operating at peak capacity, so leaving your
self some headroom.

 

I dont actually carge people pe GB, but the math is all the same,
whether the choice is to charge more when it reaches a threshold versus
bandwdith limit when a threashold has been reached.

 

Another approach is to compare it to the cost of a movie.  For example,
if Comcast charges $5 for a movie, and an average movie is 5GB large,
then charge $1 per GB.

Make it a financial deission for the customer to choose video over
Internet versus Dish/Comcast, so it is strictly a decission of
convenience.

 

My point is, its not a generic answer what to charge. It reall dpends
what your capacity and costs are, which can vary drastically for many
reasons.

 

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

 

 

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From: Andy Trimmell <mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com>  

To: WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>  

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage

 

If your #2 user is using 37GB then I'd call anything above 75GB
excessive. Our biggest package is 60GB and then charge $1 per GB over
with a maximum of a $250 monthly bill. So in theory they can have an
unlimited package for $250 a month J We have a guy that consistently
goes to about 120gb per month. He pays for a business package which is
$100 a month and he sometimes goes over $10 a something.

 

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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Usage

 

What do you folks feel is "excessive" usage on your system?  And
how do you deal with it?  Do you have bandwidth limits?  Where do you
draw the line.  I have one residential sub  who month after month uses
more bandwidth than the next 3-4 residential subs combined.  Last month,
they used over 105GB.  Is this excessive?  The next top residential sub
in the same month consumed 37GB (which in and of itself was 10GB higher
than the next one).  

With Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc, this may be the new normal . .
.   

 

Thoughts?

 

Kind Regards,
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New Era Broadband, LLC

 

 








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Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage

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If your #2 user is using 37GB then I'd call anything above 75GB
excessive. Our biggest package is 60GB and then charge $1 per GB over
with a maximum of a $250 monthly bill. So in theory they can have an
unlimited package for $250 a month J We have a guy that consistently
goes to about 120gb per month. He pays for a business package which is
$100 a month and he sometimes goes over $10 a something.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David Hannum
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Usage

 

What do you folks feel is "excessive" usage on your system?  And how do
you deal with it?  Do you have bandwidth limits?  Where do you draw the
line.  I have one residential sub  who month after month uses more
bandwidth than the next 3-4 residential subs combined.  Last month, they
used over 105GB.  Is this excessive?  The next top residential sub in
the same month consumed 37GB (which in and of itself was 10GB higher
than the next one).  

With Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc, this may be the new normal . . .   

 

Thoughts?

 

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New Era Broadband, LLC

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

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I hear if you’re trying to port from a rural telephone company the porting 
process is pretty horrible. They make it almost impossible and drown you in 
paperwork and most people give up. That might be the same case here.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

 

I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an ATA 
to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home 
exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office 
exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that 
can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get 
the port to go I will have very few takers.

 

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the FCC?

 

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Re: [WISPA] wall plate style AP

[Andy Trimmell]

Since the cabling probably comes down the wall I'd be more into the
UniFi stuff mounted up in the ceiling. They look like smoke alarms and
I'd think they'd be less tampered with coming out of the ceiling. Comes
with the metal bracket and the software management is extremely nice if
you're using a lot of them. Sorry if I'm getting away from wallplate
only installation.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jawad A Hai
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 4:39 AM
To: scubac...@gmail.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wall plate style AP

Ruckus has below which is similar to Extreme in looks, its about 280 USD

list price.
http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-indoor/7025

below are from Taiwan between 60-80 USD depends on QTY  you pick, all 
supports b,g,n

http://www.handlink.com.tw/products_wap-001.php

http://www.equaline.com.tw/product_cg2793.html#



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From: "Rogelio" 
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:28 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] wall plate style AP

> Has anyone used or deployed these style access points?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izV6UnNSEyU
>
> And are there any other brands that do this sort of thing?  I would
> imagine that there has to be cheaper versions out there
>
> -- 
> Also on LinkedIn?  Feel free to connect if you too are an open
> networker: scubac...@gmail.com
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits

[Andy Trimmell]

So you got a better room for half the price. I can see why you went your own 
route. Kind of sucks you booked it and now you can't attend it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits

I'm sorry, not per night, for the whole cruise.
Regards,

Chuck



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> $139/night? The "standard" cabins were $279 for all 4 nights.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 11/3/2011 10:29 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> I know I checked on the cruise for myself, and with my timeshare
>> discounts it was $139/night (or free if I transferred some of my
>> timeshare in) in a much better room, not the base room.  When I asked
>> DR if I could pay an at the door reg fee, they said no.
>>
>> I decided not to go since I just got back from Vegas...too many things
>> going on to leave another week...not because of their response.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>> The most interesting part is the cruise was only $279 per person. How much
>>> cheaper could he have gotten it with an employee discount? And how much
>>> would DR have to charge to allow this person into all the
>>> sessions/keynotes/afterhours free drinks/etc.?
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/3/2011 10:02 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> I would think if the guy was one of your customers and specifically went on
>>> the cruise to be a part of the show, then you could let it slide or at least
>>> have a door price. It seems to me a little good will for someone who helps
>>> support you all year is in order. And as to others attending, I say charge a
>>> door price and let them come if they really want. I doubt there would be a
>>> lot of takers.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>>> I see your point and agree.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:29 AM, David Sovereen
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>> Shafty really?  How much are they charging for the event?  Zero, except
>>>>> that
>>>>> you need to book through them, and they derive some revenue through the
>>>>> booking.  How much was registration to Wispapalooza?  How much is
>>>>> registration to Animal Farm?
>>>>>
>>>>> The policy seems fair to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose they could charge an event registration fee of ___ for persons
>>>>> who
>>>>> booked through another means, which might help Ralph's situation, but I
>>>>> don't think Double Radius' position is without merit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Andy Trimmell"
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:09 AM
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List"
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for pretty shafty!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:09 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
>>>>>
>>>>> That's pretty shafty!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:58 PM, rwf  wrote:
>>>>>> I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to
>>>>>> participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not
>>>>> their
>>>>>> travel agent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you
>>>>> to
>>>>>> leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brig

Re: [WISPA] Installation videos

[Andy Trimmell]

Does anyone remember the episodes of the provider that was doing youtube
videos? It was pretty funny. Showed a couple episodes, cleaning out the
van, installing an empty house

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation videos

 

There was one out there from a Texas provider but it wasn't educational
more for WISP entertainment. I forget the name though.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Installation videos

 

We are thinking of video documenting some customer installations and
tower maintenance to post on youtube for the entertainment and education
of our customers.  Is anyone doing this now and have some videos they
would like to share for ideas?

 

Thanks,

Pat

Csweb.net




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Re: [WISPA] Installation videos

[Andy Trimmell]

There was one out there from a Texas provider but it wasn't educational
more for WISP entertainment. I forget the name though.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Installation videos

 

We are thinking of video documenting some customer installations and
tower maintenance to post on youtube for the entertainment and education
of our customers.  Is anyone doing this now and have some videos they
would like to share for ideas?

 

Thanks,

Pat

Csweb.net




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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits

[Andy Trimmell]

+1 for pretty shafty!

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits

That's pretty shafty!

Regards,

Chuck



On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:58 PM, rwf  wrote:
> I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to
> participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not
their
> travel agent.
>
> If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you
to
> leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004.
>
>
>
> Ralph
>
> Brightlan.net
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip

[Andy Trimmell]

Do you buy from Winford regularly?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip

I found the same at mini box...not a wispa vendor member, but have
bought from them before.

http://www.mini-box.com/Din-Rail-mounting-kit-for-M350

Winford has them cheaper.

Regards,

Chuck



On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:
> Do you have any vendors in the WISPA list? I've never bought from
> Winford.
>
> Let me rephrase my question.
>
> Would any vendors from the WISPA list please advise if you carry such a
> device?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy Trimmell
> Network Administrator
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Future reference, I've Googled way before I ask for assistance here. I
> usually get no response for hours or days on the general list anyways.
> Makes it even more less likely to ask on the WISPA general list in the
> future when a fast response is something like that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip
>
> LOL.  The Feeling Lucky button brought it up first time searching for
> "DIN Rail Mounting Clips".
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andy Trimmell
>  wrote:
>> I spent 30 minutes doing that already. You sound like my boss.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:36 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3grtq82
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Andy Trimmell
>>  wrote:
>>> Anyone know where to get these?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Trimmell
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>>>
>>> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip

[Andy Trimmell]

Do you have any vendors in the WISPA list? I've never bought from
Winford. 

Let me rephrase my question. 

Would any vendors from the WISPA list please advise if you carry such a
device?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/

Thanks,

Andy Trimmell
Network Administrator
atrimm...@precisionds.com
317.831.3000 ext 211







Future reference, I've Googled way before I ask for assistance here. I
usually get no response for hours or days on the general list anyways.
Makes it even more less likely to ask on the WISPA general list in the
future when a fast response is something like that.







-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip

LOL.  The Feeling Lucky button brought it up first time searching for
"DIN Rail Mounting Clips".

Regards,

Chuck



On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:
> I spent 30 minutes doing that already. You sound like my boss.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:36 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3grtq82
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Andy Trimmell
>  wrote:
>> Anyone know where to get these?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy Trimmell
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>>
>> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone know where to get these?

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/

 

 

 

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Network Administrator

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Re: [WISPA] Installation Supplies

[Andy Trimmell]

We use Skywalker also with Bushings and Caulk. The silicone from
skywalker is good too.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation Supplies

 

Skywalker. I don't use bushings though. I use caulk.

 

http://www.skywalker.com/Categories/Wire-Management/Bushings.aspx

 

ryan

 

 

On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Matt wrote:





Where does everyone order there installation supplies?  I need some of
the grommets for cat-5 entry again.




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Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Andy Trimmell]

Well since these people aren't using our servers to keep their illegal software 
this section should cover it since it's their computer that has the illegal 
software not ours.

§ 512(a) Transitory Network Communications Safe Harbor

Section 512(a) protects service providers who are passive conduits from 
liability for copyright infringement, even if infringing traffic passes through 
their networks. In other words, provided the infringing material is being 
transmitted at the request of a third party to a designated recipient, is 
handled by an automated process without human intervention, is not modified in 
any way, and is only temporarily stored on the system, the service provider is 
not liable for the transmission.

The key difference in scope between this section, transitory network 
communications under 512(a), and caches, websites and search engine indexes 
under 512(b), 512(c) and 512(d) respectively, relates to the location of the 
infringing material. The other subsections create a conditional safe harbor for 
infringing material that resides on a system controlled by the OSP. For 
material that was temporarily stored in the course of network communications, 
this subsection's safe harbor additionally applies even for networks not under 
the OSP's control.


Isn't that what all that means?

Andy Trimmell
Network Administrator
atrimm...@precisionds.com
317.831.3000 ext 211



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Forrest W Christian (PF Lists)
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

For those of you who are just ignoring these:  I'd recommend you read up 
on the DMCA safe harbor rules  See 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act

In short, if you follow the steps under the law, you have an affirmative 
defense against the copyright holders suing you for contributory 
infringement.

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Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Andy Trimmell]

Sounds like something my dad would do. I hope to be a dad like that.
Builds character!

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

Our network is NATed and hard to pin down the customer but about a year
ago I had one customer who was behind the address the was being
complained about  that was uploading 20GB a month and it was all
torrent.  That's a bunch at 256K up.  So I called and talked to dad.
Explained our AUP on illegal material.  The next day the dad brought the
Kid to my office and had him sweep my service area floors while I
factory restored of his computer to delete all the illegal content. I
told the dad that this is not necessary and he informed me that it most
definitely was.  Since that time they have been great customers and
bought several computers and I really appreciate the father making the
kid follow the law.  

 

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi <http://www.rcwifi.com/> 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

Ok. We just contacted a customer for the first time. We'll take your
advice I think and respond to them and save the customer the grief.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

If I get repeated requests for the same customer my response
to a customer is to tell them they may have a virus, spyware, or a
teenager.  I spin it where the very act of doing this is slowing down
the customer's connection.  If they are a customer who seems reasonable
it might be prudent to mention such activities could expose them to
lawsuits by movie companies.  I don't mention illegal as to not freak
out most customers.   On the flipside you have the customers who share
files just to be defiant to the RIAA.  I don't have time to debate them.

 

I typically do not pass on the request directly to the
customer.  Too many shady firms out there. If the customer contacts them
they can be bullied into paying money.  I just file these requests away
and do respond to CYA.

 

Justin

 

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http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter

 

From: Andy Trimmell 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:42:05 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

Ya we don't give any customer information to anyone. We just
pass along the takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We
were just wondering if anyone had any kind of official template or if
they even passed along any notice to the customer at all stating they
have been downloading copyrighted material. 

 

Does your customers even know they have been doing anything
wrong before a subpoena is made? We've never received any of these until
we switched providers. 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

My .02

 

It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement
agency presents paperwork it is.  It is not up to the ISP to be the
Police.  To me that's a loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and
what is not.  Let the experts determine that.

 

My response to these is something along these lines:

 

"Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to
cooperate with any official legal request. Please have your attorneys
forward all appropriate paperwork to .  

 

If you want to take the extra step throw in there
you charge an administrative fee for providing any information on this
customer. After legal paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of
course.  After all, you are helping these people (most of these are from
law firms seeking a bounty) make money themselves.

 

The only way I would turn over any sort of customer
info is due to a subpoena or other such legal document.  Lessens your
exposure for lawsuits from the customers based upon privacy concerns.

 

Justin

 

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http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter

 

From: Andy Trimmell 
Reply-To: W

Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Andy Trimmell]

Ok. We just contacted a customer for the first time. We'll take your
advice I think and respond to them and save the customer the grief.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

If I get repeated requests for the same customer my response
to a customer is to tell them they may have a virus, spyware, or a
teenager.  I spin it where the very act of doing this is slowing down
the customer's connection.  If they are a customer who seems reasonable
it might be prudent to mention such activities could expose them to
lawsuits by movie companies.  I don't mention illegal as to not freak
out most customers.   On the flipside you have the customers who share
files just to be defiant to the RIAA.  I don't have time to debate them.

 

I typically do not pass on the request directly to the
customer.  Too many shady firms out there. If the customer contacts them
they can be bullied into paying money.  I just file these requests away
and do respond to CYA.

 

Justin

 

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From: Andy Trimmell 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:42:05 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

Ya we don't give any customer information to anyone. We just
pass along the takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We
were just wondering if anyone had any kind of official template or if
they even passed along any notice to the customer at all stating they
have been downloading copyrighted material. 

 

Does your customers even know they have been doing anything
wrong before a subpoena is made? We've never received any of these until
we switched providers. 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

My .02

 

It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement
agency presents paperwork it is.  It is not up to the ISP to be the
Police.  To me that's a loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and
what is not.  Let the experts determine that.

 

My response to these is something along these lines:

 

"Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to
cooperate with any official legal request. Please have your attorneys
forward all appropriate paperwork to .  

 

If you want to take the extra step throw in there
you charge an administrative fee for providing any information on this
customer. After legal paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of
course.  After all, you are helping these people (most of these are from
law firms seeking a bounty) make money themselves.

 

The only way I would turn over any sort of customer
info is due to a subpoena or other such legal document.  Lessens your
exposure for lawsuits from the customers based upon privacy concerns.

 

Justin

 

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http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News
http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter

 

From: Andy Trimmell 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:16:47 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to
respond back to our provider with anything? We've just been passing the
information onto the customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part?
Most of the time its kids downloading games. So we send the parents an
email and phone call talking about the takedown request. Is that enough
or should we be responding to the provider that we contacted the pesky
kids that foiled everything?

 

    Thanks

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 



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Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Andy Trimmell]

Ya we don't give any customer information to anyone. We just pass along
the takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We were just
wondering if anyone had any kind of official template or if they even
passed along any notice to the customer at all stating they have been
downloading copyrighted material. 

 

Does your customers even know they have been doing anything wrong before
a subpoena is made? We've never received any of these until we switched
providers. 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

My .02

 

It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement agency
presents paperwork it is.  It is not up to the ISP to be the Police.  To
me that's a loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and what is
not.  Let the experts determine that.

 

My response to these is something along these lines:

 

"Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to cooperate
with any official legal request. Please have your attorneys forward all
appropriate paperwork to .  

 

If you want to take the extra step throw in there you charge
an administrative fee for providing any information on this customer.
After legal paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of course.
After all, you are helping these people (most of these are from law
firms seeking a bounty) make money themselves.

 

The only way I would turn over any sort of customer info is
due to a subpoena or other such legal document.  Lessens your exposure
for lawsuits from the customers based upon privacy concerns.

 

Justin

 

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Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw
http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News
http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter

 

From: Andy Trimmell 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:16:47 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

 

How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to respond
back to our provider with anything? We've just been passing the
information onto the customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part?
Most of the time its kids downloading games. So we send the parents an
email and phone call talking about the takedown request. Is that enough
or should we be responding to the provider that we contacted the pesky
kids that foiled everything?

 

    Thanks

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 



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[WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Andy Trimmell]

How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to respond back to
our provider with anything? We've just been passing the information onto
the customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part? Most of the time
its kids downloading games. So we send the parents an email and phone
call talking about the takedown request. Is that enough or should we be
responding to the provider that we contacted the pesky kids that foiled
everything?

 

Thanks

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 




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[WISPA] TrangoLink 45

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone have any used ones for sale?

 

Andy Trimmell

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317.831.3000 ext 211

 




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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti GPS

[Andy Trimmell]

Please give me some positive points to the shield kits so I can present
them. Every time I speak about them I get the "who needs stinking shield
kits"

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti GPS

and the Shield Kits.  I'll use them even after I use the GPS units.

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On 8/25/2011 10:17 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Matt  wrote:
>>> I am seeing the 5.4.3 improve things on point to multi
point.
>> How well does Ubiquiti handle PtmP?  We have some Canopy AP's with
60+
>> users.  Heard that since Ubiquiti uses a wifi chipset they cannot
>> handle this kind of traffic?
> Wi-Fi chipset isn't equal to Wi-Fi protocol. With a single-sector, the
> new M family could handle large number of users using AirMax TDMA
> protocol.
>
> On multi-sector, it would have issues similar to Canopy without GPS;
> Ubiquiti now has GPS sync as well, but it's to soon to use it in a
> production network.
>
> What one can do now is buy Rocket GPS units but not rely on the GPS
> just yet, using all 3 separations (frequency, horizontal, vertical)
> for the time being.
>
>
> Rubens
>
>
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[WISPA] Puerto Rico

[Andy Trimmell]

I just watched some video of the hurricane hitting PR. Has anyone heard
from Gino?

 

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[WISPA] Loveland, Ft Collins CO Area

[Andy Trimmell]

Can anyone give me a provider near Loveland/Ft Collins, CO? I have a
customer moving there and want to give her the proper information.

 

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Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire

[Andy Trimmell]

+1

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:04 PM
To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire

 

"it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that
allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing
internet access and other communication services"

With all due respect, it's exactly the mindset that government "allows"
us to be in business that IS the problem. Telecom Act or no, regulation
or no, there should be no question that we are allowed to make a living
the way we want to regardless.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

I am going to address your points backwards:-

You wrote ---

And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were
advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not
particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The
current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for
any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and
the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some
reality.

-

We have been wireline ISP's first, since 2000, if you really believe
what you wrote (above) then you are truly mis-informed...
The simple facts are ... it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that
allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing
internet access and other communication services . and it is THE
DEREGULATION over the past 5 years, that has been KILLING the ISP's
off.
You forget, that if you don't have the ability to connect to other
networks in a fair and equitable manner, you are not going to be able to
continue in this business.
Get a grip of reality and the full picture.. you are playing with a DUAL
EDGE sword here...

---You wrote-


You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence
and
the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X
or
advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle.   They should be
TACTICS
to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of
its
soundness and validity.


Not sure where you are coming up with this from ...however each and
every one has his own right to interpret the events .

You wrote -


Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan.   Not even
ideological.
It's simple straightforward business principles.   Principle Numero Uno
is
"have the freedom to be in business", and there is nothing convoluted or
difficult about that.


hehe.. when you start off a paragraph with "this administration"  or do
a follow up with "the previous administration".. that is as partisan as
one can get

I agree with your 'Principle Numero Uno', but you are harking at the
wrong organization.. it is not in  WISPA's charter or mission, maybe
should be a member of the SBA association, or FISPA or COMPTEL ... but
then again you will have to get your head straight about how the US Gov.
has operated for the last 200 years

WISPA's mission has been to address issues related to Wireless, (not
business, not telephone service, not hosted services, etc etc)...
While I understand your frustration with the Gov., and do agree with
some of your points, but what you keep putting forward on the WISPA
forums is  more like 'Don Quixote Tilting  at the windmills"



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom



On 7/16/2011 12:59 AM, MDK wrote:
> A "plan of action"?  If I said "this is what WISPA should do" and laid
it
> out in detail, all you'd do is say "who are you?  Why should we hacve
to do
> what you say?"
>
> Frankly, I have no idea why you're having difficulty.  You see, when
you
> have proper business principles as your guiding mechanism, what you
should
> do is crystal clear.   Nobody needs to write out a plan of action, it
> becomes self evident - you always advocate FOR the proper and best
thing.
> And, after being consistent, year after year, and when stuff like this
comes
> up, which becomes so blatantly obviously a result of failure to follow
true
> principle, again, nothing is obscure or difficult.
>
> Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan.   Not even
ideological.
> It's simple straightforward business principles.   Principle Numero
Uno is
> "have the freedom to be in business", and there is nothing convoluted
or
> difficult about that.
>
> You seem to be interested in mere expediency.   That's what's gotten
us to
> this crisis point, the idea of managing the favoritism, the cronyism,
etc,
> to favor you, or at least not hurt you too much.   That's what's BEEN
going
> on.  Had we (WISPA) been looking for and actively seeking allies who
would
> with us, say with many voices, but one message -

Re: [WISPA] RB1100

[Andy Trimmell]

Depending on ports we've really liked the routermaxx 6 port gigabit
router. Its affordable and super fast.

http://www.balticnetworks.com/routermaxx-6-port-gigabit-router-dual-core
.html


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Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:00 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100

The RB1000 is discontinued and the 1100 is a box product.  What about 
the RB800?  It uses a pretty decent PowerPC processor (with the 
crypto engine), has a daughtercard to add 10/100 slots, and looks 
like it can be mounted outdoors.

The one thing I don't like is the fan; it is a moving part and I 
don't like those outdoors.  The forums have had some complaints about 
heat in the CPU, so downclocking it might make sense.  (Somebody 
posted a note about the new heat sink, with a picture of an anvil.)



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Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

[Andy Trimmell]

I agree. It costs $100 for each smartphone people have yet they want to
download 50-600gb for $30. Not gonna happen

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should
too.

 

I am either firing or increasing rates.  I can't sit there and have
customers doing 600 gigs for less then my cell bill...

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Re: [WISPA] What to do about storm damaged SMs?

[Andy Trimmell]

We also have the customer claim it on their home owners if they don't
pay us for our CPE insurance. Home owners will cover it under their
damage claim. Just as if the house fell on a car they were renting or
borrowing for the weekend when the tornado came. It's not theirs but
insurance would also cover that.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What to do about storm damaged SMs?

Two answer:
My carrier has told me a tornado is a single event and all the gear 
damaged in a single event is covered by a single claim.
I have had 2 customers suffer significant storm damage and both have 
submitted our gear and it has been covered.

On 5/1/2011 10:37 AM, John McDowell wrote:
> We've sent out a mass email telling customers to call who were damaged
by the Tornados. Does anyone know of anything we can do with Insurance
for all these SMs we've lost? We'll probably have at least a hundred or
more lost or damaged.
>
> We do the "$4.99 lease" on our radios. Can this be covered in their
homeowners? If anyone has dealt with this I could use help in salvaging
some of our losses here with Insurance, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> John M. McDowell
> Boonlink Communications
> 307 Grand Ave NW
> Fort Payne, AL 35967
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Re: [WISPA] Fuel surcharge for Customer Repairs?

[Andy Trimmell]

If it was your equipments fault I'd say you couldn't charge for
anything. However if the customer built a garage in front of the unit or
reroofed the house and the roofers took it down or something like that,
id say they'd definitely get a truckroll fee. Also unwillingness to trim
a tree or something of that nature would be billable.

 

Example:

Our customer called 3 months after building a garage directly in front
of the client unit that was on a pole on the ground. He called and acted
like nothing was going on and said there was a problem with his
internet. I looked at the signal and it was horrible. I asked the normal
questions "has anything changed recently?" customer answers "no" We get
to the house to find that there was a huge building in front of it.

 

Another one customer calls demanding we come fix his internet so his
daughter can use it for school on a Saturday evening. Again the customer
said "I don't know what the deal is" I asked "has anything changed
recently?" "no" replied the customer. Come to find out the customer cut
through the cable with an aerator after noticing the unit 100' from the
house and no light on the unit with 113 million plugs laying in the
yard.

 

Both billable fees.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Fuel surcharge for Customer Repairs?

 

Any thoughts on a service charge for on-site CPE repairs or relocating
equipment due to changed signals.  We have a bit of a disagreement
within as to whether this would be ethical.  The customer does not own
the equipment at their location.  We use a lot of 900Mhz so there are
regular equipment relocates due to interference or degraded signals.

 

Thanks

 

Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager

http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net

(918) 235-0414

 



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Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's

[Andy Trimmell]

We have a problem that the cable we used is unable to bend to use their
hole they made without drilling our own which would go right through the
clip that holds it on. The door definitely wasn't thought through
completely. It's really flimsy and if its kinda cold and an installer
tries to take it off you might be stuck on the roof with a big gaping
hole from breaking it off. We also broken the tab on the sliding mount
right out of the box. It no longer has any tension after the first
sliding test. Also the little quad holes on the bottom need to be
plugged in case at some point it rains outside.

I foresee the same thing that happened with the all plastic stationboxes
where they just take a transient voltage and it cooks the radio since
the only grounding you'll have is in the cable shielding.

We're going to use the one we bought for a test unit inside and we won't
be purchasing anymore. Cool idea just not thought through completely.


Andy Trimmell
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's

Anyone tried these with a dish yet?


On 3/30/2011 3:18 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
> Excellent,  that is great to hear.  I take it that you aren't doing
anything other than closing the door and keeping the cable routed down.
No additional weather proofing of the door?  We are in a definite snow
and rain zone so just a bit concerned.  We are going to hang a couple
later this week and just wanted to hear from others.  I appreciate it.
>
> FCC cert = TV7SXT-5d
>
> Kevin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:16 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's
>
> Do they have a FCC Cert?
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Dennis
Burgess  wrote:
>> We have had them up for quite some time, no issues yet.  Great
performance.
>> J
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Owen
>> Sent: March 30, 2011 3:56 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] MT SXT's
>>
>>
>>
>> We just received our first shipment of the SXT's.  While they are
certainly
>> very interesting, I am concerned about the ability to weatherproof
the
>> little door on the bottom.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have I missed a previous discussion about these units and the
>> weatherproofing of them?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] History of the Internet

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You better watch it. They get mad now when you call it that! Go check
your Fax Daily! It's called climate change, duh!

 

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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] History of the Internet

 

Thats OK. Algore can get credit for global warming ;)

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Cameron Crum 
wrote:

They left our poor old Al Gore.



On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Jerry Richardson <
jrichard...@aircloud.com> wrote:

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Re: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer

[Andy Trimmell]

We had an old one with a clip but it also had a plug that we used.
Plugged it in inside the office then ran down to the switch and toned it
out.

 

I'm not sure what you can do without a few seconds of downtime. Have
some 2way radios and a guy sitting at the switch running the probe
across. Rinse and repeat

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer

 

Have you tried to clip a toner on the outside of a cat5 cable and gotten
it to tone down the line?  I'm curious if any/some/most toners are
strong enough to get to the copper.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, chris cooper 
wrote:

You should be able to use a tone/probe kit to trace the lines out.  Clip
the toner on one cable, return to switch and use the probe to locate
that line, then repeat on each successive line.

Chris
Intelliwave


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Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:14 AM
To: WUG; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer

Have a network closet with 16 port switch.  Drops go all over
building.  Want to label each one in the closet as to where it goes.
Is there any easy way to trace these lines short of taking each one
offline?  Doubt it but thought I would ask.





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Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......

[Andy Trimmell]

This guy was 23 though.someone email the story to CSI las vegas.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of LaRoy McCann
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy..

 

Well I know the mind can do some strange things.

A little over a year ago, before my father in law passed away,  we got a
call from the police that they had found him walking down the street in
nothing but his underwear and under shirt and bare footed. It was a cold
winter night.
He suffered from deminita or alzheimers.


On 3/17/2011 11:09 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: 

Yea, right, a guy climbed 1,000' in his undies and a T-shirt, in the
cold of Michigan.  Something doesn't add up.  I guess he could undress
once he got to the top, but the story doesn't add up. 


Regards,
Chuck



On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andy Trimmell
 wrote:

Makes me wonder because he died from blunt force trauma. Maybe dropped
from the sky? They didn't said he was tied down or anything.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:47 AM


To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy..

 

LOL, isn't that pretty much a BFOQ to leave terra firma and climb a
piece of metal hundreds of feet into the sky?

 

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy..

 

"A public safety official speculated that the man may have climbed the
tower because he suffered from a mental disorder."

lol - dont we all?!?!

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob Moldashel 
wrote:

http://www.agl-mag.com/newsletter/AB_031511_Oak_Park.htm




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Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......

[Andy Trimmell]

Makes me wonder because he died from blunt force trauma. Maybe dropped
from the sky? They didn't said he was tied down or anything.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:47 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy..

 

LOL, isn't that pretty much a BFOQ to leave terra firma and climb a
piece of metal hundreds of feet into the sky?

 

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106



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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy..

 

"A public safety official speculated that the man may have climbed the
tower because he suffered from a mental disorder."

lol - dont we all?!?!

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob Moldashel 
wrote:

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[WISPA] Mikrotik Mesh

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone know of any good documentation for mikrotik mesh network. I'm
creating mesh network for a park here and they want wifi throughout the
park. 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Google chrome notebooks.

[Andy Trimmell]

I signed up for it months ago but haven’t received it or anything else. Did you 
put anything special in your application?

 

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Of support
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google chrome notebooks.

 

I got mine already they are Awesome!

On 2/14/2011 3:48 PM, wphipp...@gmail.com wrote: 

Just to let you know, Google are giving away chrome notebooks for testing.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

[Andy Trimmell]

Unlimited Plan 

$69.99 per month

The unlimited broadband account is a no contract service that allows for
nationwide coverage without a specific cap on the amount of data
transfer used for $69.99/month.  

Usage over 50 gigabytes in one month will alert our investigative team.

 

I mean really, how to contradict yourself all in the span of a
paragraph.

 

"You can use your gun here at this firing range but if we hear gunfire
we're going to have to hold you in custody for illegal use of that
weapon your using"

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.

 

MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO.
Regards,

Chuck



On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett 
wrote:

 I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last
night repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ .

 

"I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband
wireless.com/ and another provider I have forgot the name of...They both
provide wireless data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and
4G. They both advertise it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is
not unlimited."

 

"My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G
plan on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other
companies? I will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon
as I can return back to the office."






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Re: [WISPA] Blocking DHCP traffic

[Andy Trimmell]

We already have a script to drop on all our client units. Just not sure why 
this one is answer DHCP queries to these 365s. I'm watching the counters go up 
as we type. 

I keep doing captures but these units still won't get an IP address. All the 
other sectors are fine but these 365 units (pmp320)keep freaking out about it.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:04 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking DHCP traffic

Although it's a bit of work to get setup, and it helps to have scripts
and automated provisioning to keep everything organized, we haven't had
any problems with rouge DHCP since implementing it...

http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/2009-November/001178.html

Josh, did you end up implementing something like this yourself?


-Kristian

On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 14:44 -0500, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> We’re blocking DHCP traffic on mikrotik client units. We’ve found a
> rogue dhcp that I’ve talked about the last couple weeks in a few
> threads. I found the unit. We’re blocking the 67 port like we’re
> suppose to but unit are still attempting to connect to the DHCP behind
> it. Should I be blocking 67 and 68 to alleviate this? The clients need
> to get an IP with the tower dhcp server but I don’t want people’s
> routers giving out responses.
> 
>  
> 
> The counters are going up but im still seeing the 192.168.1.1 IP on
> the ARP table and the only units on the tower having a problem is
> these 320 units but it’s the rogue server behind one of these
> mikrotiks.
> 
>  
> 
> Irritating.
> 
>  
> 
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> 
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> 
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[WISPA] Blocking DHCP traffic

[Andy Trimmell]

We're blocking DHCP traffic on mikrotik client units. We've found a
rogue dhcp that I've talked about the last couple weeks in a few
threads. I found the unit. We're blocking the 67 port like we're suppose
to but unit are still attempting to connect to the DHCP behind it.
Should I be blocking 67 and 68 to alleviate this? The clients need to
get an IP with the tower dhcp server but I don't want people's routers
giving out responses.

 

The counters are going up but im still seeing the 192.168.1.1 IP on the
ARP table and the only units on the tower having a problem is these 320
units but it's the rogue server behind one of these mikrotiks.

 

Irritating.

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Announcements] Baltic Networks introduced a newlow-cost 6 Port Gigabit Router Powered by MikroTik at theAnimal Farm Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah

[Andy Trimmell]

Looks like we'll be purchasing one of these next week. We'll let you
know how it holds up.

 

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:12 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Announcements] Baltic Networks introduced a
newlow-cost 6 Port Gigabit Router Powered by MikroTik at theAnimal Farm
Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah

 

Nice to see products like this developing and being made available, but
it still misses the mark by not including SFP ports.  Also, the GigE
port count is far too few.  Six?  Need more like 24 or 48 ports!  

 

USB ports are great to see on this router!  Good job there and what IMO
should be mandatory on all HUB site or core based routers.

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

From: announcements-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:announcements-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:55 AM
To: announceme...@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA Announcements] Baltic Networks introduced a new low-cost
6 Port Gigabit Router Powered by MikroTik at the Animal Farm Expo in
Salt Lake City, Utah

 

 

 

Baltic Networks introduced a new low-cost 6 Port Gigabit Router Powered
by MikroTik at the Animal Farm Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah

January 14, 2011

 

Aurora, Illinois - Baltic Networks introduced MaxxWave RouterMaxx
1106(tm), a new low cost 6-port Gigabit Router powered by Intel(r)
newest technology, the Core(tm)2 Quad/, the Core(tm)2 Duo Processor at
the Animal Farm Expo.  RouterMaxx 1106(tm) runs on the MikroTik RouterOS
platform and by combining it with the latest Intel technology, it is the
next-generation commercial-grade gigabit router.  Based on the latest
Intel 82574L Gigabit Chipset and utilizing 6 independent Intel gigabit
controllers and a multi-core CPU, it's possible to achieve over
200,000pps.  The product provides performance up to 3 times faster than
MikroTik's flagship product, the RB/1100. RouterMaxx 1106(tm) competes
directly with MikroTik RB/1100, Cisco and LinkTech PowerRouter(tm).

 

Brian Vargyas, Managing Director at Baltic Networks, said: "We felt that
there was a need to bring in the next generation gigabit router to the
market, given that the existing products on the market are all based on
the technology that is either out of date or not providing enough port
power for commercial-grade applications.  Teaming up with MikroTik and
MaxxWave, this next product represents a further step ahead in Baltic
Networks' strategy, aimed at providing low-cost and ready-to-deploy
solutions."

 

RouterMaxx 6(tm) Features:

 

- Fanless Desktop Size

- 1U Rackmount Bracket Optional

- Runs RouterOS V5+

- Level 4 RouterOS license included

- 1.6Ghz Dual Core Intel Atom Processor

- 6 Intel 82574L / 82583V Gigabit controllers (Supports Jumbo Frames) 

- 1 GB DDR2 800 RAM

- 1 mPCI-E internal slot for expansion (3G/4G Wireless Cards)

- 2 GB Flash

- 2 USB 2.0 Ports

- 1 RJ45 Console Port (Includes RJ45 to DB9 Console Cable)

- 1 2.5" Open HDD Spaces -- Includes SATA Cables - Use for Web Proxy
Cache

- MTBF over 100,000 Hours

- Low power consumption of 15Watts (+2 Watts per port running)

 

Power: 100-240Vac, .5-3A, 50/60Hz  (12Vdc 5A Max)

Tested Operational Temperature:  -20C to 70C

Dimensions: 1.4"H x 7.4"W x 5.7"D

Weight: 2.6lb

 

About Baltic Networks

Baltic Networks offers a complete line of products and design solutions
for broadband wireless and mobile internet.   We are an authorized
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

Mikrotik concentrators

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you
using?

On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell  wrote:
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why
> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and
> everything..
>
>
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
>
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

Why would it work with all the 700 customers and not for this customer
with this router? Is it the handshake? He has 3 choices for
authentication and he's tried all of them except for PAP because we
don't allow PAP. PAP / CHAP / MSCHAP

IAS responds with event log entry 

Reason-Code = 3
Reason = The Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service (RADIUS) request
was not properly formatted.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you
using?

On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell  wrote:
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why
> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and
> everything..
>
>
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
>
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

Correction. There's no mac address list. We authenticate through IAS.
Run-on sentence for the win.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:52 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

It relays it to our IAS. Theres no mac access list for router only for
the CPEs.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just 
authenticating from the MAC access list?


Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their 
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that 
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why

> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and 
> everything..
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've 
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>

>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

It relays it to our IAS. Theres no mac access list for router only for
the CPEs.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just 
authenticating from the MAC access list?


Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their 
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that 
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why

> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and 
> everything..
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've 
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>

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[WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their
connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that
worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why
their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and
everything..

 

I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"

 

Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've
had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Andy Trimmell

Network Administrator

atrimm...@precisionds.com

317.831.3000 ext 211

 




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Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, & more wires!

[Andy Trimmell]

It's kinda the same way here in America when you hit a east coastal town
down south. After a hurricane they don't even remove the old they just
wrap it around bundle it up and duct tape it to the pole. 

 

I took some pictures of it down in florida when I went to destin a
couple years ago.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:18 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, & more wires!

 

Looks like Marlon doing DSL !


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On 1/13/2011 10:34 PM, RickG wrote: 

See attached. I wonder which country that is?
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Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

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Great thing about ESXi is that its footprint is so small. It uses like
300k of memory and you can run it from a USB thumbdrive and all the
storage is simply virtual machines.

 

EUREKA!

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

 

That's for premier.  You want partner, like an ISP.  Someone said like a
dollar forty?

On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum"  wrote:
> On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user
per year
> (that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's pretty pricey
to me.
> People complain about the price of our software which does a ton of
stuff at
> less than $1/month/sub.
> 
> Cameron
> 
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Matt  wrote:
> 
>> > Great stuff...can't say enough good about VMware and their support.
Dell
>> > support has been fantastic too.
>>
>> I think Redhat uses KVM?
>>
>> http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/server/
>>
>> Imagine it will work its way into CentOS soon. How does it compare to
>> VMware?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

[Andy Trimmell]

We've been using @Mail for quite some time.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 

We're using Courier Mail.  www.tallon.com handles the servers for us.

 

We've had very little trouble with it.

 

I'm thinking of tucows though.  Just not sure if I can justify the
increase in costs vs. what my in-house costs are.

marlon

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mark Nash   

To: WISPA General List   

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 

We used to use Squirrel Mail and I though it was unprofessional.
The Everyone.Net web interface is very good.  It looks alot like
Roundcube...

- Original Message - 

From: Martha Huizenga   

To: WISPA General List   

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting

 

I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check
out the others.

martha

Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC  
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook
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On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to
agree..the Interface is
hard to use.
 
Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short
while we had it
and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite.
 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga
   wrote:

We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly
user friendly and easy to
use.
 
Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter
 
On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote:
 
What user email client are you using? Are your
users happy with it? We
are considering hosting email ourselves, as we
used to, but we need an
email client that is a little more full-featured
and less clunky than
the older web clients we were used to.
 
 
 
On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 
We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on
Centos Servers
But if I had to out-source, I would consider
Tucows email service before
Google.
 
Tucows service tend to be more suited for
ISP/NSP's and they don't
market to yours and our customers.
 
Regards.
 
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet&  Telecom
 
 
On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote:
 
 
Hello,
 
We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party
email hosting provider for
about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are
very displeased with
their service and have decided to make a change.
Last time it was a bit
of a shot in the dark, this time we would like
to make a choice we can
stick with for a long time.
 
What 3rd-party providers have been successful
for you, in the 1000+ user
range? Responsive support is our

Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

[Andy Trimmell]

Meaning we can walk out and cut it with a special tool in about 30
secs.thats what they mean...ya that's it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of support
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK

  ROFL

On 10/12/2010 1:13 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:57 -0500, Blake Bowers wrote:
>> Depending on where in Bristow, John at
>>
>> http://www.onalot.com/
> LOL.  From their FAQ:
> "In addition to our Firewall protection, we use WEP encryption on all
> our radio links. WEP = Wired Equivalency Protocol, meaning it is
> considered to be as secure as a direct copper wire link. WEP
encryption
> is a coded algorithm that "twists" all data by a factor of 26 to the
> 16th power to make it un-decipherable to anyone else. Many government
> agencies and other high security interests use this same encryption
> technique - it was developed to be especially secure."
>
>
> Ok..maybe it's just their web page that needs to be updated, or
perhaps
> they are really certain that WEP  is "as secure as a direct copper
> wire".
>


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Re: [WISPA] Check this Trencher out

[Andy Trimmell]

Did anyone call and get a price on one yet?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Check this Trencher out

Let's all chip in and buy 5, regionally.

- Original Message - 
From: "Cameron Kilton" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:43 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Check this Trencher out


> http://www.lineward.com/products.html
>
>
> -- 
>
> Thanks,
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> Project Manager
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc

[Andy Trimmell]

We have 3 plans in each of our categories, Residential/Business. Also, we have 
a customer on 768kbps $30/mo and downloading 40-50gb in a month...

Thresholds:
Residential
$30 20gb
$40 40gb
$50 60gb

Business
$50 40gb
$70 80gb
$100 120gb

$5/Gb after their allotment but never exceeding $150 in overages in one month.

We do send an email at %75 of their allotment to give them a chance to go up to 
the next package. We also waive their first time going over if they act 
oblivious to downloads. 

A lot of people don't understand how Netflix and services like that work. We've 
heard it all! "Well we didn't know since we weren't saving it that it counted 
against us!" 

What we're doing is putting overage charges into a pot for build-outs only. 
However we have found that this 1% of customers that are causing the problems 
in the network, downloading 24/7, have slowed their roll. Our most abusive 
customer we just repossessed the unit after their bill hit the $150 overage 
charge plus $40 subscription fee in one month and never paid the bill 2 months 
before that. 

The most abusive customers will either pay their bills or get disconnected. 
Either way is a win-win for everyone, us and the customers. No more constant 
pull on that tower or those kind of customers pay for upgrades on the tower. At 
that point I'd rather just get rid of those kinds of customers because the most 
abusive don't ever pay their bills anyways. 

We do have one customer that is a big Hulu fan and just moved to the $100 
business package because his overage charges hit $150 2 months in a row on the 
$50 60gb package. He won't stop watching Hulu and always pays his bill. 


Andy Trimmell
PDSWireless
Network Administrator
atrimm...@precisionds.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 3:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc

Even at 56Kbps, if a client was using all of their bandwidth 24/7 they
could do ~15GB in a 30 day month.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, RickG  wrote:
> Marlon,
>
> Out of curiosity, do you know your total capacity available to each of
> your subs? Can they ALL actually get 10gigs/month if they ALL tried to
> do it? To be honest, I have not taken the time to figure out this
> number for my network which is part of the reason I shy away from
> going to by the bit pricing even though I've been a long proponent of
> it.
>
> -RickG
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Marlon K. Schafer  
> wrote:
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jason Wallace" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:24 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc
>>
>>
>>>I have a few questions for those of you who sell bandwidth by the byte:
>>>
>>> 1. What is the threshold you use, ie, 3Gb in 30 days, or do you have
>>> different packages?
>>
>> 10 gigs per month for wireless.  20 gigs for fiber customers.
>>
>> Business users that pay more get more.  However, the ones that insist on
>> allowing radio on the computers etc. usually end up paying even more yet.
>> We try to set a level above what they use in a normal month then cut them a
>> little bit of a break on the normal billing amount.
>>
>>> 2. Is this total bytes in & out or just in?
>>
>> Total.  Combined.  WE pay for it both ways.
>>
>>> 3. What do you charge for overages?
>>
>> $5 per gig.  If they go over by more than 10 gigs we'll normally work to cut
>> them some kind of a break.  Again, the expectation is that it's got to more
>> than pay for the additional costs.
>>
>> Don't forget the costs of AP wide slowdowns for everyone else.  If that
>> starts to happen and you loose the "easy" customers you have to add ap's to
>> the tower.  That costs both money AND spectrum.
>>
>> We've started an overbuild with additional bands for our heavy sites.  We
>> charge more for the install and the service, but that gives the gamers/high
>> end customers someplace to go.  AND we make SURE that service from that
>> system is the BEST in the area we're in.
>>
>>> 4. Have you considered just throttling back customers like the satellite
>>> guys do?
>>
>> Yeah.  But there is no money in that.
>>
>> It's also not what our service is based upon.  Our service runs as fast as
>> we can make it go.  Up to 10 mbps in both directions for as little as $35
>> per month.  Those who pay more are paying for reliability not speed.
>>
>> The other t

[WISPA] Net Neutrality, RIP

[Andy Trimmell]

http://government.zdnet.com/?p=8277&page=3&tag=col1;post-8277

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ?

[Andy Trimmell]

IF you haven't found anyone hit me offlist. We can get started.

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:40 AM
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PR

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:32 PM
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Where ya located Gino?

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:13 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ?

Hello,

 

Anyone with a Mikrotik router available to do some remote BW tests? 20
Mbps Max needed!

 

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Re: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ?

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Where ya located Gino?

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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:13 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ?

Hello,

 

Anyone with a Mikrotik router available to do some remote BW tests? 20
Mbps Max needed!

 

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Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Dish

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Ya we just put up a M5 yesterday and lovin' it. Just wanted a chance to
use 2.4 in some areas where 5ghz was overused.

I got some screenshots of 80Mbps at 9 miles using the Ubnt M5 dish, if
anyone is interested.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Dish

Andy,

They aren't available yet, they haven't even released specs on this that

I'm aware of, just the 5 ghz versions.

Regards
Michael Baird
> Does anyone know of a distributor for Rocket M2 Dish? The part number
is
> in the manual but I've yet to find anyone that has any. Any
information
> would help.
>
>  
>
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[WISPA] Rocket M2 Dish

[Andy Trimmell]

Does anyone know of a distributor for Rocket M2 Dish? The part number is
in the manual but I've yet to find anyone that has any. Any information
would help.

 

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Re: [WISPA] Google to run small ISPs out of business? WAS: isGoogle our next competitor?

[Andy Trimmell]

It was a funny April Fools joke 3 years ago too :)

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google to run small ISPs out of business? WAS:
isGoogle our next competitor?

That is almost 3 years old, and I still have not received my
installation kit.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Glenn Kelley 
wrote:
> It is official
>
> Google has already started !
>
> As shown on the official Google TISP website:
>
>
>
> Sick of paying for broadband that you have to, well, pay for?
>
> Introducing Google TiSP (BETA), our new FREE in-home wireless
> broadband service. Sign up today and we'll send you your TiSP self-
> installation kit, which includes setup guide, fiber-optic cable,
> spindle, wireless router and installation CD.
>
>
> http://www.google.com/tisp/
>
> One thing I will say - they sure have a sense of humor !
>
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

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Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't have 
fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of John Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for 
Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA.

John


Mike Hammett wrote:
> I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. 
> I know a couple companies were at $1.
>
> Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing.  Downtown Chicago, 
> a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana.  A single meg 
> in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs  (or a couple gigs) in Chicago.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Andy Trimmell" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>
>   
>> 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to AT&T. We're paying 10x 
>> that from AT&T right now.
>>
>> $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue AT&T 
>> for highway robbery.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>>
>> Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg?  $9/meg isn't much to write home about.
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Justin Wilson" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" ; "RickG"
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>>
>> 
>>>Yup.  If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper.
>>> One
>>> client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago.  Their biggest hurdle
>>> are
>>> peering agreements with the big boys.  The AT&t¹s of the world are sort 
>>> of
>>> tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do.  They
>>> tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry.  Lots
>>> of
>>> web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>> CCNA ­ CCNT ­ Mikrotik Advanced
>>> http://www.mtin.net   - Homepage
>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog  - Technical Blog
>>>
>>> XISP solutions ­ Hosting ­ Consulting ­ Tower Climbing
>>>
>>>
>>> From: RickG 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>>>
>>> I hear $1500 for a gig!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my 
>>>> Cogent
>>>> rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo
>>>> going
>>>> $400/100 megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier
>>>> neutral data centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site
>>>> under
>>>> the network heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for 
>>>> this
>>>> promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet
>>>> access.
>>>>
>>>> Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a
>>>> significant number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network 
>>>> out
>>>> to
>>>> these facilities.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible
>>>> Cogent
>>>> is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could
>>>> find
>>>> someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3,
>>>> InterNAP,
>>&g

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

[Andy Trimmell]

50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to AT&T. We're paying 10x that 
from AT&T right now. 

$0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue AT&T for 
highway robbery.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg?  $9/meg isn't much to write home about. 
;-)


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Justin Wilson" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM
To: "WISPA General List" ; "RickG" 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

>Yup.  If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. 
> One
> client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago.  Their biggest hurdle 
> are
> peering agreements with the big boys.  The AT&t¹s of the world are sort of
> tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do.  They
> tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry.  Lots 
> of
> web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth.
>
> Justin
>
> -- 
> Justin Wilson 
> CCNA ­ CCNT ­ Mikrotik Advanced
> http://www.mtin.net   - Homepage
> http://www.mtin.net/blog  - Technical Blog
>
> XISP solutions ­ Hosting ­ Consulting ­ Tower Climbing
>
>
> From: RickG 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
>
> I hear $1500 for a gig!
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett
> wrote:
>
>> I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent
>> rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo 
>> going
>> $400/100 megabit 1 year contract.  Only available at Cogent and carrier
>> neutral data centers.  These facilities are listed on their web site 
>> under
>> the network heading.  A complete building list (and not eligible for this
>> promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet 
>> access.
>>
>> Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a
>> significant number of them do.  I encourage you to build your network out 
>> to
>> these facilities.
>>
>> Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible 
>> Cogent
>> is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots.  I'm sure I could 
>> find
>> someone to honestly say the same things about AT&T, VZB, Level3, 
>> InterNAP,
>> XO, MZima, etc., etc.  It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly 
>> encourage
>> you to have more than one.
>>
>> Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to
>> Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing 
>> provider,
>> etc.  These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[WISPA] Mcallen, TX

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone cover Mcallen, TX? We have a customer that is there for a month
or so in an RV park there and having some issues getting service.

Anyone?

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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

[Andy Trimmell]

There's a difference between unlimited use and unlimited downloading.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:13 PM
To: motor...@afmug.com
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough
customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top 3%
heaviest users and give them the boot.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and
AT&T
> now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a
> regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED
> everything (voice, texts, internet) per line.
>
> It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited
system...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

[Andy Trimmell]

If anyone knows a WISP that needs anything in Haiti please post it to
the list. I'm sure there's at least one.

Thank you.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

On 1/14/2010 11:16 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
> 2010/1/14 RickG:
>
>> You guys are the best for doing this but be careful who and where you
send
>> money. Unfortunately, there are a lot of scam artist that will take
>> advantage of situations like this.
>>  
> Yes, I would avoid the missionary groups. Doctors Without Borders is
> legit, and the Red Cross is always a fairly safe bet.
>

Your Red Cross dollars could end up in the dump! I wouldn't give the red

cross time of day after what we seen on the gulf after Katrina.  One of 
the shelters had 300 people in it with 1 payphone (Mac can verify this).

We packed a truck up from Radio Response and sent a crew to the shelter 
to install a link, 10 PCs, and 10 VoIP phones.  They refused to let us 
install the free service for the people and told us the single pay phone

was good enough!  It's tough to walk away from lost crying babies 
because of bureaucratic BS!

There were about 30 trucks full of food and supplies in a parking lot 
near our camp waiting for Red Cross paperwork to distribute it to the 
people.  After over a week in the lot the drivers rather than let the 
stuff rot (running out of fuel for refer trucks) opened the trucks and 
let us come in with rental trucks (rented by Jeffmo out of his pocket) 
and distribute the supplies.  The Red Cross never did show up with the 
authorization to distribute the supplies and 1 of the drivers was fired 
when their boss found out they opened their truck.

Doctors without boarders are awesome and helped set up the clinic in 
Algeres (NOLA West Bank).  BTW that clinic was still giving free health 
care last year when we were there.

I did some googlen yesterday and didn't have much luck at finding an 
active wisp in Haiti that I could contact.  Anyone know one down there?
I will shoot a donation to folks Chris  recommended but would also like 
to help a brother WISP  and I'm sure there is one or two down there that

need it.

Jim


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Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

[Andy Trimmell]

Laughter just rioted through the office! hahah

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:28 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

That's funny because I ended up having a conversation pretty much like
that
with the wife.  Get a notebook and a pencil, write it down.  I took it
upon
myself, after call number 5, to try to login to FaceBook with his
username
and password, password was wrong, reset it, retrieved his email, changed
his
password...  yada, yada, yada...  (I hate yada, yada, yada, by the way)
Wife tells me that she thinks he changed it last night when he was drunk
so
that she couldn't get on his account.  But after all of that I hear...
"See, I told you it was their fault because he fixed it".  *sigh*  I
have to
add that they are in their late 60's.


Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

Send him a gift wrapped notebook and pencil with Merry Chrismyassmas
written
on it from just-micro.com. Include a note saying, "With this, you should
never have a problem with remembering your passwords, if you just use
it."

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: "Robert West" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:43 -0500

>Is it okay to say "Merry Chrismyassmas" to a customer who calls you
yelling
>because it's your fault he can't remember his Facebook password?
(Somehow
>I'm blocking his FaceBook password)
>
> 
>
>Just wondering what my options are
>
> 
>
>Robert West
>
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Re: [WISPA] noise floor.... going up!

[Andy Trimmell]

Bob Barker said that a lot too. Now Drew Carey is saying it.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up!

Healthcare is cool, not a problem.  The vet is much, much cheaper. I go
there too as well as the kids.  Tried to get the wife to go but she
refused
once I told her she had to choose what species she wanted to be.  (Me
and
the kids are listed generically as "Weasels")  Medications are about a
tenth
the cost, procedures are 40 or 50 bucks, up to 200 no matter what they
are.
I can get my daughter spayed for 40 bucks, they said.  The girl said
it's
not an option.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up!

With this new bill he better have healthcare or you'll get penalized! 

This was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks for the laugh.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up!

A cat has to eat.  No different than the pony rides at the fair.  He has
to
pay his way just like the rest of us, I'm not going to have a communist
cat
in my house.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Phil Curnutt
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up!

I wouldn't let PETA hear about that.

Phil

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Robert West
wrote:

> I've converted my cat to being a mobile hot spot.  I used a couple of
UBNT
> Picos, 4 9 volt batteries and changed out the firmware with DD-WRT.
Have
> it
> all on him like saddle bags.  He roams the neighborhood accepting
online
> signups.  The range is okay, he only goes about a half a mile to a
mile
and
> the signal comes and goes but hey, he's paying his way.  We call the
> service
> "Cat5" but his name is really Steve.
>
>
>
> Bob-
>





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Re: [WISPA] noise floor.... going up!

[Andy Trimmell]

With this new bill he better have healthcare or you'll get penalized! 

This was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks for the laugh.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up!

A cat has to eat.  No different than the pony rides at the fair.  He has
to
pay his way just like the rest of us, I'm not going to have a communist
cat
in my house.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Phil Curnutt
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up!

I wouldn't let PETA hear about that.

Phil

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Robert West
wrote:

> I've converted my cat to being a mobile hot spot.  I used a couple of
UBNT
> Picos, 4 9 volt batteries and changed out the firmware with DD-WRT.
Have
> it
> all on him like saddle bags.  He roams the neighborhood accepting
online
> signups.  The range is okay, he only goes about a half a mile to a
mile
and
> the signal comes and goes but hey, he's paying his way.  We call the
> service
> "Cat5" but his name is really Steve.
>
>
>
> Bob-
>



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Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice

[Andy Trimmell]

Speaking of stimulus
http://www.ajc.com/news/biden-to-announce-fiber-243448.html


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 21:56, Robert West
wrote:

> No, you were right, I was quoting from the Guide, it's just your
response
> reminded me of the guy who worked out 42 as the actual number.
>
> Google calculator comes up with 42, also, if you do a search for the
> meaning
> of life, the universe and everything.  Just in case you missed that
one.
>

Fun fact: there actually is a way to make the Ultimate Question of Life,
The
Universe, and Everything ("what do you get if you multiply six by nine")
to
equal 42. If you do the math in base-13, 6x9 really is 42. Douglas Adams
was
as surprised as anyone by this revelation.

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

[Andy Trimmell]

In some cases 6.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

Use LOW power and really good antennas.  Use both polarities etc.

How many radios per tower?

Basically, when possible, think of a honey comb.  Each flat side gets
it's 
on freqency, no two sides that touch each other (including the corners)
get 
the same band.

marlon

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Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:47 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Frequency Planning


> Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
> frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies
across
> several towers that are close proximity.
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Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

[Andy Trimmell]

["Having private options in a public world means you're paying for your
healthcare twice.  It's like being forced to have Qwest DSL, but
electing to have FiOS instead.  You're paying for 2 Internet services,
one great and the other not."]

Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay
school taxes for public school? Only makes sense that we'd again pay
twice for another public option.

Good analogy.




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[WISPA] Frequency Planning

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across
several towers that are close proximity.




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