Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range
Note my comment was based around 2' dishesnot spectrum. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Christian Palecek Date: 1/16/17 5:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range We have a couple of 18ghz at about 10 miles full modulation. We are in rain zone B though, we have never had issues with fading in the rain at all though. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: lakeland Date: 1/16/17 2:51 PM (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range I would not do more than about 2-3 miles on an 18 ghz hop depending on your weather. The other issue is only 60' elevation. Not happy at all with that elevation for more than a mile. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Sam Morris Date: 1/16/17 9:34 AM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference) Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range
I would not do more than about 2-3 miles on an 18 ghz hop depending on your weather. The other issue is only 60' elevation. Not happy at all with that elevation for more than a mile. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Sam Morris Date: 1/16/17 9:34 AM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference) Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Going Rate for Smaller Structures
Go by square footage. Your footprint is much smaller than a cell provider... Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Seth Mattinen Date: 1/11/17 7:32 PM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Going Rate for Smaller Structures On 1/11/17 15:56, Tim wrote: > Free internet > Warranty on all equipment > > Would not do a per sub. The trust factor is to high risk. > > How do you guys handle people that have been poisoned by what cell companies pay? Like if someone says they need at least $2,500/mo from you because that's what they would get from Verizon/AT&T/Sprint. I usually want to say if a cell company wanted to be at your site they probably would have by now, but I say something like they have a bigger subscriber base than we do and we're only looking to target X customers in this area vs. thousands of mobile devices. ~Seth ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz interference
Good luck with that. No gonna block a -45 carrier at900 mhz easily. That is going to be a real challenge Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Clay Stewart Date: 12/14/16 7:04 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz interference Try to relocae with structure blocking and some distance. On Dec 14, 2016 5:47 PM, "Ian Fraser" wrote: None in my exp. with the same gear Ian On 14/12/2016 5:36 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Yes. A few of the utilities here have moved to them. Some at 900Mhz others at 2.4 GHz. Any setting changes that can keep the link up? On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Smart meter On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM Marco Coelho wrote: I've got an old pmp100 900MHz AP with just a couple of customers on it. Recently an extremely noisy hopper started bringing this down every 10-20 seconds. The link won't even stay up on 1x. Any ideas out there? The hopper is at -45!!! -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireles___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there
Do they work if you set them up on the bench with the power turned all the way down? If you can turn the power down. What receive level do you have at 5 ghz? Not totally familiar with the Metrolinqjust starting with basic initial setup questions Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Chadwick Wachs Date: 6/15/16 7:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there I have been trying for a couple days to get a new PTP60-35 60 GHz link up and running with no luck. Looking for some help / suggestions from anyone who has been successful getting links up. The 5 GHz link is working but 60 never trains up. I bought the spotting scopes and each end is dead center. Good old fashioned up/down/left/right aiming methods do not seem to work either and IgniteNet is lacking in the support department. Anyone want to contact me off list if you have any suggestions on what worked for you? Thanks,Chad ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Grounding hardware/connector to bus bar
Ground lug. Come in 3/8 or 1/4 inch holes. You have 3/8. Hole spacing is one of two different gaps. Go to www.sitepro1.com and go to overstock tab. They have them on clearance without inspection windows. If u r size is not there go to the grounding tab. If you buy universals lugs they will fit either gap size. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Josh Luthman Date:12/05/2014 9:54 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grounding hardware/connector to bus bar Does anyone know what these things are called (the double hole terminal that goes in the bus bar)? Goes to 6 gauge grounding wire. http://imgur.com/MXMVHKi Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Air Force Base / KSC Launch RFI Question
Scott First I have heard of military radar operating in the upper 5.8 spectrum but the equipment is probably older than the NTIA/FCC database. Part 15 states your equipment must accept interference and must not cause interference. As such, if the military can prove that your equipment is causing interference to theirs and they are authorized to operate in that spectrum, and the interference is effecting their mission, they could get the FCC involved and could issue you a cease and desist notice. Do I think that will happen? No. Do I think if it is really causing an issue you may get a "request"? Thats a possibility. Do I think the military/Nasa has a real good relationship with the Miami field office? Yes Politically I dont think you will see anything happen unless they can prove the issue and state a heavy case. The Commission does not have the resources to track down all the 5.8 operators on the Florida coast. I would be concerned if someone from the field office shows up at your door (with proper ID) or you have to sign for your mail because it comes certified. I would also be concerned if a humvee full of guys with assault weapons showed up in uniform but thats a long shot. :-) (Considering how warm it is in Florida right now i dont think you will find a commission field engineer in a hurry to come out and visit you in one of their 1986 Ford Escort fleet vehicles with no AC... Lol) Just make sure you have your EIRP's where they are suppose to be and if you are using the.lower spectrum, your DFS is enabled. Finallyif you do get a visit...say nothing. The more info you provide the more trouble you will create. Let them request info. You do not have a FCC license so that puts you on a different playing field from licensed spectrum. Get professional counsel if you get contacted. I have had numerous dealings with the Commission with interference issues and most of those were reasonable meetings. Good luck but I think you're safe. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date:05/07/2014 12:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Air Force Base / KSC Launch RFI Question Good morning, We operate between two local Air Force bases and near KSC as well. We were notified recently that the AFB has resorted to using an older radar system that was previously retired due to the newer range radar system catching fire or something to that effect. During the two months or so the repairs are expected to take we have had several space launches scheduled during this window from CCAFS / KSC. The USAF has fired up the old radar and has recently contacted us asking about equipment we have in the area at customer premises. I asked the frequency coordinator what freq their radar uses he said the center freq was 5735 and that it had a very wide bandwidth of like 100 Mhz basically taking the whole ISM/UNII bands worth of spectrum in 5Ghz. So any way to the point... When the USAF shows up and says hey, I see you are using FCC approved equipment in accordance to the FCC spectrum rules the equipment was designed to operate in on freq 5765Mhz - but I need you to turn it off to see if its your equipment we are seeing - and if it is please change freq "preferably below 5600 MHz or above 5850 MHz" (actual quoted request). Obviously we can't accommodate their request for several reasons,most notably because the equipment nor the FCC allows it. I'm just curious if any of you have had anything like this happen and what your response was / would be. I try to be a nice neighbor and work with them any way possible but them trying to shut down the whole 5Ghz non-licensed upper band all our equipment uses (including every other cable and wireline providers wifi 5Ghz equipment in the county) to work their range RFI issues is a bit much and ultimately unattainable within the 3 days they have left prior to launch, IMO. Any insight or suggestions you smart fellers have would be appreciated. I am particularly interested in those more intimate with FCC rules regarding this situation. Do I have to comply? Do they have legal justification to just say - turn it off... etc Thanks... I appreciate your time in responding. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Guy Wire Calculator
Kevin Do yourself a favor and put up the Nello 25N version not the Rohn. The legs will line up better and you wont have to deal with holes plugged with galvanizing. Nello will provide you with a material list for your install according to your area. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Eagle One Wireless Date:03/16/2014 5:05 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Guy Wire Calculator Thanks chuck That wil work perfect Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: If you haven't bought the tower already, it's just as easy to buy a kit. The kit also has the lengths as well...so you can review that. Also, there's a document on the Rohn site that has it as well under the Rohn25 specs. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Eagle One Wireless wrote: We are putting up a 120 ft rohn 25 tower. First tower we have actually put up in a few years. Anyone have a calculator to help me figure up how much guy wire to order? And maybe how many sets i need? Thanks, Kevin Melson Eagle One Wireless 1505 Hwy 72 E Corinth, MS 38834 662-287-1722 e...@e1w.com www.e1w.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Completed Video of Tower work and quadcopter
Yeah...Thanks alot for the video Gino.. Now I have $1250 less in my account thanks to you and your video.. ;-) -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Mike Hammett Date:02/03/2014 10:05 AM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Completed Video of Tower work and quadcopter Oh, that's not bad, then. So if the guys can be on the tower, it can be there to record? Well, for a few minutes, anyway. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Gino Villarini" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 9:03:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Completed Video of Tower work and quadcopter Not sure, I'm guessing it was 20-25 mho winds the day of our shooting Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Mike Hammett Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Monday, February 3, 2014 10:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Completed Video of Tower work and quadcopter How much wind can it handle? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Gino Villarini" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:14:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] Completed Video of Tower work and quadcopter Final edited version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1spQgL3bS_Y Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
I know what Daniel was saying but the statement was 3 weeks to license but that's not the case Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Mike Hammett Date:01/13/2014 4:50 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios I believe what Daniel was referring to was the FCC. The coordination part was just saying that in addition to extra FCC fees, you may have extra coordination fees. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "lakeland" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:51:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Thats great and all but here is the argument... Coordination is not licensing. There are coordinators out there that say you can start operating after the coordination is complete. The Commission says otherwise. Only the FCC can grant transmitter authorization and their position is that until authorization has been granted, operating otherwise is illegal. If someone can show me otherwise then by all means please do. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Daniel White Date:01/13/2014 2:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Expedited PCN is 15 day response time. So long as you are licensing your gear in a Conditional Authorization band… 3 weeks is more than possible from when you first submit paperwork to your frequency coordinator. Some coordinators charge more for Expedited PCN response though FYI. Daniel White | Sales Manager West & Southeast USA SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakeland Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:22 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
On the coordination yes. On the licensing... no. Licensing is presently running 10-12 weeks Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Josh Luthman Date:01/13/2014 2:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Cc: sc...@flhsi.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios I thought you could do a rush on it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM, lakeland wrote: Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date:01/13/2014 1:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List ,WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Faisal Imtiaz" Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Ian Framson" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Thats great and all but here is the argument... Coordination is not licensing. There are coordinators out there that say you can start operating after the coordination is complete. The Commission says otherwise. Only the FCC can grant transmitter authorization and their position is that until authorization has been granted, operating otherwise is illegal. If someone can show me otherwise then by all means please do. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Daniel White Date:01/13/2014 2:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Expedited PCN is 15 day response time. So long as you are licensing your gear in a Conditional Authorization band… 3 weeks is more than possible from when you first submit paperwork to your frequency coordinator. Some coordinators charge more for Expedited PCN response though FYI. Daniel White | Sales Manager West & Southeast USA SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakeland Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:22 PM To: sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Scott It is not possible to get a link licensed in 2-3 weeks. Where is this info coming from? Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date:01/13/2014 1:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List ,WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Yep, we use ligowave gear. I can usually count on it providing 50-100mb with 20mb channel if not a lot of interference. for 200fdx you have one real option. buy yourself a SAF licensed link 11Ghz 2ft dishes high powered. You can get a license as quick as you can buy and setup the gear. If you think otherwise you should call me I can help you with getting the gear and the license. Only way to fly and for less than 10K you have all of it bought, delivered, licensed and installed in about 2-3 weeks. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Faisal Imtiaz" Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Ian Framson" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Need Bandwidth in Ft Myers FL
Looking for 25 Meg FD with SLA. Brokers need not apply. Contact me offlist. Tnx -B- Bob Moldashel lakek...@gbcx.net Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool
Don't remember. Solved the problem with matching machines Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Josh Luthman Date: 11/12/2013 9:10 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool Don't use cheap chipsets on the laptop. Who shipped the laptops you had problems with? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 12, 2013 9:09 PM, "Bob Moldashel" wrote: We have seen download/upload irregularities when using it with different types of laptops/processors. Overall it is a good tool. Something to check first is to test laptop to laptop with a cossover cable and see what your results are first. Nothing like chasing a problem that isn't there. -B- On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Bret Clark wrote: I've used it on a PI and found it to be very accurate. Next to Iperf, put/get files from an FTP server provides good throughput measurements. On 11/12/2013 02:49 PM, Clay Stewart wrote: Is it accurate using it on a Raspberry-pi? I was loading up my first one today to try out Iperf. Since someone on this thread mentioned 'CPU', I was wondering if that would be an issue on a PI? Clocked at 800Mhz.. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: iPerf is very accurate in what it tells you. What you draw from those conclusions may or may not be accurate. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Sam" To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:50:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool Has anyone used iPerf before? I'm curious of your thoughts as to the reliability, and how the results would map to a real-world environment. For example, a friend was testing some 3.65 radios (which had no connection to the Internet) using iPerf. Based upon the iPerf results, a determination was made regarding maximum concurrent users per AP and maximum aggregate bandwidth capacity of the radio. For the maximum concurrent users I believe they tested this at several different download and upload speed for the fictional users. Having never used iPerf, I don't know if the results from their tests (which were very poor by the way - much lower than common configurations of DL/UL rates as well as number of users per AP I've read many of you describing on these lists) map reasonably to what one would expect from a given AP, or if they tend to be wonky. Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Siklu/Dragonwave 80 Ghz..
There are no 3' dishes at 80 Ghz. We have quite a bit of experience installing Bridgewave and Proxim milimeter wave equip. We actually installed the first few pairs of Bridgewave AR80x units for Bayone Medical Center. They weree the first set of parallel links ever placed. While I agree that 80 is much more resilient than 60 Ghz, reliable distances at throughput modulation levels are limited to less than a mile with 2' dishes and moderate rain. Every link we have in place has adaptive rate modulation and where it is turned on, really regardless of distance, has throttled back at on time or another. And a clarification on the Dragonwave ... Looking for feedback on Horizon E band unit which is private labeled Siklu. We have plenty of experience with DW and they are easily one of my manufacturers of choice. They make $hit that works the first time. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Fred Goldstein Date: 10/14/2013 11:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Siklu/Dragonwave 80 Ghz.. On 10/14/2013 11:08 PM, Robert wrote: > What are the max distances these will do with the 3 foot dishes? > (moderate rain, not tropical rain)... > I don't think we have pushed the envelope here. I've seen the charts, though. It very much depends on your tolerance for outages. If this is the sole link to some place, and it is mission-critical, then you can't tolerate much down time and you can get really hurt by rain. If the rain is falling 40 mm/hour, it could knock around 15 dB/km off your path, which doesn't get you very far. But that's unusual here in the northeast; most storms are maybe half that strong. Three or four miles should be quite reliable; a 10-mile link might be workable if you have a fallback path, but we haven't done it. > On 10/14/2013 07:47 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: >> On 10/14/2013 7:33 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote: >>> OK. So a customer pops up out of no where and says he is interested in >>> one of these links. Does anyone have any positive/negative/neutral >>> comments/experience? >>> >>> On or off list >>> >> >> We have a few Dragonwaves going, 50 and 200 Mbps, some for a few miles >> in an urban core environment, and they seem pretty nice. The licensed >> 80 GHz band has much better range than unlicensed 60 GHz, though of >> course the very narrow beamwidth means you have to have a good antenna >> mount and be careful about storm damage, or about some bozo working on >> the roof who disturbs it. >> > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Alvarion Demise?
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/60986.php Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge
Ok. Tnx Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Stuart Pierce Date: 07/12/2013 7:11 AM (GMT-05:00) To: sc...@brevardwireless.com,WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge What they said Big Bob, definitively more flexibility with a RocketM5, actually less expensive when paired with a panel and being able to use DFS is a plus if the situation allows. -- Original Message -- From: Scott Carullo Reply-To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:29:31 -0400 >what he said > >Scott Carullo >Technical Operations >855-FLSPEED x102 > > >From: "Mike Hammett" >Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:20 PM >To: "WISPA General List" >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge > >Get a pair of Rockets and put them into a flat panel with an enclosure by >someone like ARC Wireless or IT Elite. They're a lot more flexible in terms >of antenna selection, DFS availability, lower replacement cost, better RF >shielding, etc. > >- >Mike Hammett >Intelligent Computing Solutions >http://www.ics-il.com > >- Original Message - >From: "Bob Moldashel" >To: "WISPA General List" >Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:13:49 PM >Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge > >Anyone have any good or bad things to say about these? I am getting >roped into a couple of links and looking for feedback before I marry >them to myself. > >Tnx > >-B- >___ >Wireless mailing list >Wireless@wispa.org >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >___ >Wireless mailing list >Wireless@wispa.org >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Metal building parapet wall mount for 3ft dish question
Scott, Its either brick with metal covering it or it hollow with light steel H beam construction. If its block underneath or if its steel I would drill all the way through and sandwich the wall on each side. We would use a Site Pro 1 WM1665 or SP250-6 with 2 pieces of 3 x 3 angle on the back side. If the wall is hollow just dandwich both sides of a vertical beam. You may need to notch out the metal for the mount to sit flush against the beam. If its block you just need to shim up the mount to accomodate the corrugated surface. Site Pro sells square backer washers that can be used for this. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date: 05/26/2013 10:09 AM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Metal building parapet wall mount for 3ft dish question I've never disassembled a parapet wall on a metal building to see whats back behind the sheet metal that runs vertical on the roof side of the parapet wall, but I need to know whats back there and the best way to attach a 3ft licensed radio and dish and the mount needs to be beefy - as in welded galvanized mount that probably weighs 50 pounds itself. I'm going to need to tie into something substantial behind the flimsy wall sheet metal. I've mounted lighter loads to these walls but I just need this to stay put - it can't flex or move at all I have 3deg to work with on 11ghz and its out of town. Anyone know of a mount that works good for this or can tell me whats back in there? They must all be made similarly as every metal building I've seen is built the same. I have included a link to a photo showing exactly what it looks like. Dish needs to go next to the other jpole there - I have no idea what that is and I didn't put it there fyi :) Thanks, appreciate it. Link - http://flhsi.com/files/parapet.jpg Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Ghz links and high tension inter-state powet lines...
Go for it. You should be fine. There will be no power issues as the 200 feet greatly exceeds the allowable distances for fixed appurtences. RF wise you should also have no issue. We have many links passing through lines with no issue. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Mike Lyon Date: 05/26/2013 12:59 AM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 Ghz links and high tension inter-state powet lines... Howdy! Has anyone ever installed wireless equipment close to high-tension power lines? Like inter-state HV transmission lines? If so, what do i need to be aware of? Would they interfere with the radios at all? If say a 40ft towet was installed within 200 ft of an 80ft power line tower, would there be any issues? Any chance of the tower coupling with HV lines? Thoughts on the matter? -mike Sent from my iPhone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX
Sounds like yoy could use a couple of Dragonwave Pseudowire units. 16 T1 to Ethernet. Copper only for you would need to media convert for f iber. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: m...@tc3net.com Date: 05/20/2013 11:33 AM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX Check for pseudowire devices, I have also used Cisco routers to create a transparent bridge group over MLPPP, as well as bonding using the Zhone etherextend products. Most of the time I use the Zhone's. Regards Michael Baird - Original Message - From: "Eric Tykwinski" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:16:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber MUX Matt, We've used Net to Net equipment back in the day. They've been bought out multiple times probably since then, but the products were pretty simple to setup: http://www.zhone.com/products/legacy/ne/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List; WISPA Fiber Discussion Subject: [WISPA] Fiber MUX Hi All, Is anyone aware of a MUX that will let me MUX together T1s (needs to be transparent) and Ethernet? I need to MUX them together on one end, and then unMUX on the other end. Again... it all needs to be transparent. -- Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Electrical noise problem / need solution
Scott, A few questions. What power are you running up the tower, 120VAC? Need to know make and model on the Tsunami. Are they losing the link on both sides or just one? Your cable may be inducing something onto their cable that is screwing with the radio's conversion freq if its a two piece radio like a Tsunami 45 or Tsunami 100. Did an AM RF engineering firm review your proposed install? Let me know what cha got... Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo Date: 05/13/2013 10:10 PM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Electrical noise problem / need solution I'll try to keep this as brief as possible while providing pertinent info - thanks if you reply FM tower with AM detuner skirt from 0-150ft - fm tower has isolated guy wires and is well grounded at base AM tower ~60 yards away operating at 50KW with 4 arrays max We did new install there and ran power wire up tower in non-shielded SOOW 14/3 wire to 325ft from inside building at base Right after it was pulled up tower I happened to be running the bottom into the building and got shocked, not just by the cable but by about everything around me. Not fun, RF burn is something you don't want to experience lol. Its unbelievable really, watch this short video from my phone - you can hear the am station coming out of the arc welder like sparks. http://flhsi.com/files/wow.mov Remember, this cable is not powered up its just hanging there... Gives you something to think about. So obviously I decided it was best not to hook it up to the equipment at 325ft or the power UPS at the bottom. I looked for a solution and ended up buying replacement power cable called Armor-X which is fully armored / shielded 14/3 power cable. Actually really nice stuff it looks like 1/2 inch coax from the outside almost exactly. I used coax grounding kits about every 50ft up the tower and one at top where enters my stainless box and one where it enters the building on the common ground plate. I also ran the cable up the inside of the tower instead of the outside - a seasoned engineer told me running it inside the tower would provide shielding as well from the AM station. This fixed my AM issues and allowed me to successfully power the equipment without issue. Next problem - Another customer at the tower lost link on their 5Ghz when I powered up the new cable. They are using an older tsunami radio with coax up the tower to their antenna. I believe that our power cable is located about 6 - 12 inches from their coax the whole run up to 325ft (not positive though - I have not been back to find out yet). I need to not have their tsunami get noise on the coax and drop the RF chains and lose link. When I unplug the power to my cable their radio link comes up / plug in theirs goes down in minute or so. Repeatable. Not an RF issue we turned all transmitters off - its just the power cable causing the issue. Since I have it bonded well I'm not sure how to rectify this. I need to deal with this soon. Any ideas would be very appreciated. Thanks for your time. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] GA Aircraft Interrupting Microwaves?
Unless one of your sites is right by the airport I would say aircraft are not the issue. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Matt Hoppes Date: 04/29/2013 10:39 AM (GMT-05:00) To: memb...@wispa.org,WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GA Aircraft Interrupting Microwaves? I've got a bizarre one here Has anyone else ever experienced a GA aircraft flying in front of a tower and breaking a microwave (in this case RADWin) path long enough to bring down the link for approximately 10 seconds? We have a tower that loses connectivity about once or twice a day for around 10 seconds, and all data points to it being some GA aircraft taking off from a local field and having a flight path that takes them right in the RF path of the microwave. Next calm day one of the local pilots is going to fly a few touch-n-goes for us to confirm the theory. Just curious if anyone else has ever encountered this? ~ Matt ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Tower Climber Needed - Baton Rouge, LA
Good luck Cliff. There is so much LTE/4G upgrade work going on right now its almost impossible to come up with a last minute crew. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Cliff Leboeuf Date: 04/25/2013 9:52 AM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tower Climber Needed - Baton Rouge, LA We need a climber for the Baton Rouge area today. Does anyone have a recommendation? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OT: Proxim 5054
I assume you don't have the log in user and password? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone - Reply message - From: "Dan Petermann" To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" Subject: [WISPA] OT: Proxim 5054 Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:26 pm Does anyone know how to default a Proxim 5054 WITHOUT the stock power supply? Basically I need to know what pairs to short out to do a full default. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Monopole mount
Site Pro 1. Part No. CHGPS. Chain mount that normally is used in the cell industry for GPS antennas. We have used them for microwave projects and the work great. $189 plus ship. www.sitepro1.com - Reply message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Monopole mount Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:36 am Wireless Beehive have the Tower Mount Series of mounts, one of them its for corner mounting but can be adapted for monopoles: http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=45&Cat= just use a chain around it with a bolt to adjust Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Monopole mount Hello, I've got a customer who's apparently installed a 120' monopole so they'll be able to get service from us. Anyone have a bead on a monopole mount? I looked it up on Tessco, and they seemed to be $500ish. I'd like to find something more like $150. Thanks, Kevin___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower
The station engineer should be the lead information contact. If he is clueless most AM stations have engineering firms on retainer. Adding equipment to certain stations can change the antenna radiation pattern. Obviously the FCC doesn't lie this. ;-) -B- - Reply message - From: "Brian Gray" To: Subject: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 8:43 pm Besides staying away from an AM tower, does anyone have any guidance as far as mounting equipment, specifically POE equipment on one without problems for us or the AM tower? How do I keep AM RF out of my POE cables and my radios / antennas? How do I ground my gear? My initial thoughts are: Install equipment enclosure at base of tower, attached to tower.Run 1" metallic liquid tight (MLT) up tower to aluminum enclosure at 200', continue run from enclosure with 1" MLT up to 300' to additional aluminum enclosurerun 2 3/4" MLT from 200' enclosure to 2 backhaul radios (probably UBNT NB25 to start with)run 3 3/4" MLT from 300' enclosure to 3 sector antennas (probably UBNT Rocket M2) drill small weep holes in 3/4" runs as they will not be weather tight to radiosrun shielded cat 5 inside metallic liquid tight.Put 2-3 ferrite cores on the ends of all of the cables. install poe surge arrestors on both ends of cables, just before radio and just before router.wrap rf choke into both ends of a/c power cable running from enclosure to circuit panelNo clue on grounding this thing. Thank you in advance! Brian Gray Joink LLC Network Manager812-231-7087 direct 812-870-3332 mobile Joink Customer Support 1-888-31-JOINK___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Picostation 2HP Question
How do I turn off Airmax. I don't see a setting for it - Reply message - From: "timothy steele" To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Picostation 2HP Question Date: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 7:23 pm Turn AirMax off set to AP WDS On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Is it running Airmax and the old one was a Pico (not M)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: What was the previous ap? --- On Tue, 8/7/12, Bob Moldashel wrote: From: Bob Moldashel Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Picostation 2HP Question To: "WISPA General List" Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 6:58 PM OK Quick question Have a unit new out of the box will not connect to any subs. Set up as an AP, 20 Mhz channel, 2.4 Ghz channel 1. What am I missing??? Any input is appreciated. -B- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Towers
Price wise Titan freestander... Make sure you buy it from a distributor that gets it already kitted. Got several of these from Tessco a few years ago and they were a nightmare because Tessco kitted the tower themselves Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 19:58:03 GMT+00:00 Subject: [WISPA] Towers WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Attenuation of polycarbonate or acrylic at 5.8Ghz ?
Not gonna be a problem. I have antennas behing 1" Lexan with no real discernable difference Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Tom Sharples To: WISPA General List Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 22:45:26 GMT+00:00 Subject: [WISPA] Attenuation of polycarbonate or acrylic at 5.8Ghz? Subject: Attenuation of polycarbonate or acrylic plastic? Hi, we're building a wireless video observation system for a lumber mill loading area. This is an extremely rough-duty environment with huge logs swinging around, and any exposed antennas, cameras, etc. would shortly be smashed to bits. We're thinking of installing everything in a 1.5 ft. diameter thickwall steel pipe, and installing our required 5.8Ghz panel antenna flush with the end of the pipe, covered with a 2" thick piece of polycarbonate or acrylic. The link only needs to work at a distance of around 150 feet. However I can't find much info on-line about the RF attentuation of clear plastic materials (or if it's even enough to matter) at 5.8Ghz. Anyone out here ever had to do something like this? Thanks, Tom S. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers
There are no OSHA regulations. The safety falls on management and the" competent" climber. In some areas like NYC there are construction regulations that corrspond to high wind conditions. Bob Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: John McDowell To: WISPA General List , memb...@wispa.org, motor...@afmug.com Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 15:24:26 GMT+00:00 Subject: [WISPA] Wind Safety regulations for towers Anybody know of any OSHA regulations for the speed of wind and tower climbing? Is there a certain wind speed that anything beyond that point is not safe? Not allowed to climb in? Thanks, John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 Office j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas...
With copper you need to consider the differences of ground potential between sites. Fiber eliminates that issue Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Scott Reed To: WISPA General List Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 11:49:23 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas...
Agreed. Fiber is dirt cheap on Ebay. NOS. Media converters for less than $100 each Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Butch Evans To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 22:24:44 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:17 -0400, Blair Davis wrote: I have a special job to do. I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to site 4 is 2400 ft. I would HIGHLY recommend fiber for this. I am assuming these are different buildings. If they are, and they are on their own electric meters, then grounding alone would make me want use fiber instead of copper. There are some solutions out there that will use the copper lines, but I'd still go with fiber.Cost difference is likely to be minimal and by the time you save $$ on the ethernet extenders (SDSL type devices), you may come out at nearly the same cost with more bandwidth to boot. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * *NOTE MY NEW NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rope
Throwing down a smaller rope may not seem like a good idea but what are you going to do when you have to rig a pedestal water tank where you need to climb up the center tube or a tower that has 6 carriers below you and you can't make a straight climb? My statement comes from 30 years of experience. Having one rope might work in 90 percent of the situations but its those" oh sh#t" moments where having a throw line makes life easy and expedites the project. -B- Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Scott Carullo To: WISPA General List Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 03:07:24 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rope
BOB. <-- Head getting much bigger than it already is :-) Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Rick Harnish To: 'WISPA General List' , memb...@wispa.org Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2011 22:10:55 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope I was hoping Bob would chime in here. There isn't anyone I could recommend that everyone listen to more than Bob! Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of bmoldas...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope Steve, Rope is usually sold in 600 and 1200 foot rolls. My crews use 7/16" Kernmantle on most jobs. 5/8" for big stuff. We have small rope bags with 5/16" Kernmantle that gets carried up and thrown down. Then the bigger stuff is pulled up. The bags will store 500-600' and it plays out of the bag fine without binding. All of our other rope is carried in garbage pails with covers. Two handles make it easy to carry and it stays watertight when snapped closed. You can find 600' of 1/2" Arborist Rope on E-Bay for about $250 includes shipping. Longer lengths will cost considerably more. Bob Steve Barnes writes: > Looking at rope to winch equipment (antennas, Boxes, etc) to top of towers None over 275' nothing more than 100 Lbs. > > Couple Questions. > > What Rope do you prefer and size and what length do you recommend? I have a 400Ft Spool of 3/8 Poly double braided but its not long enough. > > How do you store your rope for transport to keep it untangled. > > What do you use as a throw line to get the rope to the top. Most of my towers the climber cant pull to the top. > > Steve Barnes > General Manager > PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/> Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New self-supporting tower
Nello. The holes line up, the hardware count is always complete, the construction drawings are simple, no need to drill galvanizing out of the legs and the price is right Rohn makes em but you will pay for the name. -B- Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Kevin Sullivan To: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 21:56:36 GMT+00:00 Subject: [WISPA] New self-supporting tower WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir
Great product. Works like a dream. No sales fluff in that stuff -B- Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Mike Hammett To: WISPA General List Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2011 02:21:15 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir Which session? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/4/2010 10:37 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: Marco, I don't have experience but there is a PowerPoint presentation on the wiki from the regional meeting. Rick Marco Coelho wrote: Exalt - ExploreAir http://www.exaltcom.com/ExploreAir-all-outdoor-licensed.aspx Is anyone using these in a production environment that want's to share performance and reliability data? Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation
Hm. How do you become a soverign nation? Sounds like its a lot better than being a WISP or an Integrator. :-) -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Charles Wu (CTI)" Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:02:47 To: motor...@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List' Reply-To: WISPA General List Cc: 'A Goldman' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Broadband work with Indian Reservation WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT Friday. ;-)
OK. Not being the computer genius that I want to be can anyone give me an economical lead on Windows XP Pro SP3 operating system which is legal and valid. I need programs for a handful of machines Tnx -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Exalt Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 09:08:54 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
You should be. LOL! NP. Call me monday when it comes back. J/K -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 00:04:08 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector
Did u open it and check the internal fuse? Power supplies are the only problem we ever had with Orthogon radios. I have about 10 dead ones Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "KosiNet Wireless" Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 23:12:25 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector I know where I could borrow one. But I'm 6+ hours away from you Wish I were closer. -Gary- - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector > It's more than just a PoE. All kinds of fancy electronics and junk. > I wish they didn't get all fancy and just had a PoE. > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 8/6/2010 9:14 PM, Mike wrote: >> What makes it unique? I have some Canopy ones. Would they work? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:56 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector >> >>Does anyone have one I could beg, borrow or steal one from? WAV has >> 3, but they closed before I could get there. If I hadn't lost my wallet >> today, I probably could have made it on time. I'm in Northern IL. >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> On 8/4/2010 6:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> I may have lost an Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector in yesterday's >>> storms. Are they the same as another PoE Injector or do I need to track >>> down some old stock somewhere? >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightning AGAIN
Could have come in thru the AC power. I have seen selective failures following lightning hits on the service feeds. Just FYI Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:16:38 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lightning AGAIN Good idea. I had Ethernet surge protectors but it must have jumped them. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > At 8/6/2010 04:38 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: >> For the second week in a row lightning has got me. This time it was my >> main tower taking out my core cisco router, switch, AP. My luck is >> great. Maybe it's time to look at something besides cisco. > > Hmmm, I'm sensing a product opportunity here. Cisco routers are > expensive. So rather than let anything conductive touch them (other > than the power feed, which presumably has its own protectors), use a > jumper of all-dielectric fiber to isolate them from anything that > goes near the outside. Sort of an air gap, but made of glass... > > > -- > Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com > ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ > +1 617 795 2701 > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders
How do you run the 110 up the tower? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Philip Dorr Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:55:04 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders We would use fiber+120VAC On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > Anyone used one on a tower to go beyond 100meters? I need to get higher > than that on a tower and looking for solid recommendations. > > Thanks! > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders
What is "higher"? How high? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Jason Hensley" Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:32:06 To: 'WISPA General List' Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders Anyone used one on a tower to go beyond 100meters? I need to get higher than that on a tower and looking for solid recommendations. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Roof Mounts
They make a Quickmount that fits on a peaked roof? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:04:00 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Roof Mounts Look at quickmount on the tessco site Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, "chris cooper" wrote: > > > Does anyone know where I can find a non penetrating roof mount > sizeable > enough to hold a couple of 24" drums? It needs to be able to fit over > the peak of a roof and have space on both sides for ballast. Cant > seem > to locate such a beast readily. > > Thanks > Chris > Intelliwave > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Roof Mounts
Rohn Satellite mounts. You will need to clamp another mast pipe to the existing pipe to get enough height for more than one 24" dish -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "chris cooper" Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:00:25 To: 'WISPA General List' Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Roof Mounts Does anyone know where I can find a non penetrating roof mount sizeable enough to hold a couple of 24" drums? It needs to be able to fit over the peak of a roof and have space on both sides for ballast. Cant seem to locate such a beast readily. Thanks Chris Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST: Re: Mikrotik User Meeting
Oooo! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Butch Evans Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:35:42 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST: Re: Mikrotik User Meeting On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 13:44 -0500, Jim Patient wrote: > I would suggest using a WISPA vendor member for your training needs. He already asked about a WISPA vendor member (Mikrotik specifically). I simply offered the information on my training opportunity coming up next week. Of the HUNDREDS of students who have taken my training, the comments have been very positive. I have (to my knowledge) taught over 40 students who have taken MT training from other sources (including Mikrotik and linktecks) who have made VERY positive comments regarding the improved quality of my course over the other one they have taken. This does not have to be a battle every time someone asks a question, does it? -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber up towers?
Corning riser rated armored is rated for 300 feet of unsupport vertical routing. It can be supported with a cable grip for 3/8" cable or LMR400. It can be attache to the tower with LMR400 snap ins or "butterfly" clamps or heavy duty ty-wraps. This is the cable that looks like BX power cable Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:59:39 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber up towers? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] "Missing" Bridgewave
Welcome to the world of milimeter band. Its all due to critical construction standars and tolerances. Proxim Gigalink is also done in matched pairs -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:45:06 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] "Missing" Bridgewave Sounds like manufacturers need to solve this problem technically vs. procedurally.Apparently that's how it is for this or that reason, but it sounds a little too high maintenance for me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/9/2010 12:52 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: > One of our installers lost one end of a Bridgewave GE60. According to our > reseller we need to purchase a complete new link. > > What would you guys do in this case? Press charges against the installer > and file with insurance? Just fire the employee? Anyone else had someone > this stupid do something similar? > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] "Missing" Bridgewave
You can't purchase just one side of a Bridgewave 60 or 80 GHz link. The links are calibrated to talk in pairs. The RSL, TX Power and link calibration methods are all specific for each preset link. Even when one radio is known bad (I.e. dead) and there is an advanced replacement plan in place a complete replacement link is shipped from Bridgewave at their expense and both sides have to be swapped out. Surely if they could ship just one radio it would be more economical and easier for both parties but it can't be done. This is required to maintain the standards at 60 GHz. If the installer "lost" the radio either take it out of his pocket, file an insurance claim, or eat the loss and move on. Its not Bridewaves fault that the radio was lost. I had a contracted tower crew drop a standoff arm with a new Ceragon radio and antenna on it. $650 for a new flex waveguide jumper. They can either pay for it or file an insurance claim. Sh%t happens. I just wonder how you lose half of a GE60. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Scrivner Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:23:14 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Cc: Subject: Re: [WISPA] "Missing" Bridgewave Attention Bridgewave Support, You are being copied live on a WISPA email list server. According to the guy noted below you guys make it a policy to only sell radios in pairs instead of one radio even in a hardship situation like this. That really sounds like you are bullying the customer to me. So here is the deal. You have a few hundred operators copied on this list. Is this your policy? Are you going to help this operator or not? Remember that the future ability for you to sell to operators representing a couple of million customers are probably represented here on this list and will read your reply. Let me be clear in stating that I pledge to NEVER buy from your company, EVER ,if you are not going to help this guy and sell him the one radio he needs to fix this terrible situation. Sincerely, John Scrivner President Mt. Vernon. Net, Inc. >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net >> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:53 PM >> To: wireless@wispa.org >> Subject: [WISPA] "Missing" Bridgewave >> >> One of our installers lost one end of a Bridgewave GE60. According to >> our >> reseller we need to purchase a complete new link. >> >> What would you guys do in this case? Press charges against the >> installer >> and file with insurance? Just fire the employee? Anyone else had >> someone >> this stupid do something similar? >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Interference on 11GHz
Did you do a search on the FCC ULS site to see what is authorized at your locations? I have heard of several issues where the high and low radios were installed at the wrong sites on Clear deployments. Not saying that s the issue but it is something to check -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:04:14 To: Reply-To: can...@believewireless.net, WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Interference on 11GHz Anyone know who we would contact at the FCC to help determine what is causing us interference on our 11GHz link? Seems to have started as soon as Clear started putting a ton of 11GHz gear on one of our broadcast points. They are saying they conducted a study and no interference was found. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips
No. I can't remember the last time I saw a GFCI at a tower site except for a service outlet on the outside of a shelter. My understanding they are only required in wet locations where corded devices are used. Hardwire a UPS into the circuit and throw the GFCI out. NEC does not require GFCI's on the outside of commercial structures. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:02:59 To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips I suppose you have to weigh between possibly losing an occational power supply or outages causing multiple truck rolls. What I really want to know is using a GFCI outlet standard proceedure for tower installations? On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Tom Sharples wrote: > They may have saved your gear tho. We do use them on installs in industrial > yards, ports, etc. and there I'm quite sure they saved several camaeras, > swiches and power supplies from an untimely demise. > > Tom S. > > - Original Message - > From: Blair Davis > To: WISPA General List > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:22 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips > > > GFCI's around here trip every time the lightning flashes. > > I won't use them to power radio gear. > > > > RickG wrote: > Anyone had any issues with a GFCI outlet (not breaker) tripping? I've > had several outages on this tower and want to stop it. Personally, I > dont think the GFCI is necessary as the box is in a class 6 NEMA > enclosure. Any thoughts? > Thanks in advance! > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2675 - Release Date: 02/08/10 > 07:35:00 > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips
We have had problems over the years at sites using GFCI's. In all cases we removed them and hardwired the equipment. Way too many service interuptions with them in place. Obviously you need to maintain code but there are always ways around it. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:48:10 To: Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips Anyone had any issues with a GFCI outlet (not breaker) tripping? I've had several outages on this tower and want to stop it. Personally, I dont think the GFCI is necessary as the box is in a class 6 NEMA enclosure. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ANOTHER Apex firmware upgrade problem
Sorry I can't help but is it me or do I see a lot of posts on these units regarding firmware changes. I can't remember the last time I did a firmware upgrade on a licensed link. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "can...@believewireless.net" Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:07:01 To: ; WISPA General List Reply-To: can...@believewireless.net, WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ANOTHER Apex firmware upgrade problem We just upgraded one of our 18GHz links to 1.2.3 and now it won't pass traffic. We can get into both sides but nothing is going between them. They show a link and linktest is working, just nothing is passing. Toggled back to the previous firmware and that didn't fix it either. Any ideas? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Quantum
I have a large amount of Compacts in the air without issue. They work great. They are not upgradeable to Quantum or Duo. If you will need the bandwidth then go directly to the Quantum. Be careful of your 1+1 idea. Makes no sense if you are running one common IDU with one common ODU with 2 channels Good luck Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Paolo Di Francesco Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:54:58 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dragonwave Horizon Quantum Hi all I am curious to know if anybody tried this product. Any comment? Another question: can I migrate from Horizon Compact to Quantum or better to invest directly into the quantum? Thank you in advance. P.S. most of the links should be 1+1 or with some form of redundancy -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo) Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
Yeah. What the heck guys? If it was that involved 3/4's of the people on this list would be unemployed or doing something else. Someone needs to layout the bootstrap version for him. I can't do it on a blackberry -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Cosby Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:33:25 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp Sheesh you guys, you're scaring him AND making fun of his name. Welcome to the club :) -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ "As knowledge increases, the verdict of yesterday must be reversed today, and in the long run the most positive authority is the least to be trusted." - Hugh Nibley WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hamvention
That is a myth. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 01:36:07 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention You can't use a fiberglass omni at the top of a tower and expect it to survive a strike unless it has a copper groundrod built inside of it protruding from the top in which it was designed to take a strike. Learned this from various HAM radio operators. Only 2.4ghz omni I know of that has a metal frame and can survive direct strikes are slotted waveguides such as the various H-POL omni's you see. If I'm going to use a VPOL omni I make sure I'm not the tallest guy on the tower. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:16 PM To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention Ya, the pop (pun intended:) is growing so hopefully it gets sectors soon! On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: > On 05/16/2010 07:08 PM, RickG wrote: >> I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took >> a direct hit. Picture of omni attached. Even with LP in place, it >> melted the cabling down to the enclosure and burned up everything in >> it! I got it back up & running by dropping temporary cables down the >> side of the tower. A dozen man hours later - it's all new. Maybe next >> year! >> > We had a multi-band comet VHF/UHF for our club repeater on the top of a > 10 story building in Coral Springs a number of years ago and it got > blown apart similarly. They work good but explode like that when hit. > > Leon > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend?
Chicks? Hahahahahahaa! All the ones I have seen there were missing teeth and wearing coveralls or NASCAR T shirts. Kinda like a school bus drivers coinvention :-P -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike" Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:54:43 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend? Hamfest? Chicks? Are you nuts? Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:31 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend? Are we gonna go cruisin' for chicks afterwards? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend? Bob - Larry and I were discussing going - perhaps we shoudl drive together - I have a big suburban ;-) On May 13, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Robert West wrote: > I'll be there. But no rubber duck antennas in my hat. That be for da > chuimps. > > Bob- > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ralph" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:53 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Who will be at the Dayton Hamvention this weekend? > > >> Frank and I will be there. >> We have 4 spots in the flea market: 3829,3830,3831,3832 on a corner. >> Please stop by if you are at the show! >> >> http://hamvention.org >> >> Ralph >> Brightlan >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: You're going to love this... New IRS rules]
Ok. The truth sucks. Another government burden on joe business. What a PITA Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:02:42 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: You're going to love this... New IRS rules] I agree completely. WISPA is an association for Wireless ISPs. Billing is a pretty big factor in a WISP. The name behind the list is "General" so I feel it is completely on topic. I would ask that we don't bounce back and forth saying this is or is not the case. Find the truth, the facts, then share. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM, RickG wrote: > "little to do with wireless". -Jack > > Many topics on this list become subjective as to their relevance to > "wireless". For example, other forms of access such as cable, dsl, > satellite, etc. Politics that affect our businesses are indeed > relevant even more so. If you dont believe it, then why have a team go > to DC? My point it, Mark's input has been very valuable to me as a > WISP and I suspect many others. Like many things in life, politics can > be an controversial subject and many will disagree with the viewpoint. > Heck, I disagree with many statements on this list as well. But, that > doesnt mean it should not be discussed, rather it should be embraced. > If you dont agree, say so and why. If you want to stick your head in > the sand, hit delete or filter it. Either way, please dont kill the > messenger. They may be doing you a favor whether you think so or not. > Just my .02 > -RickG > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: > > Stuart, > > > > I realize that. That is one reason why I only posted the rules of the > list > > and did not take any action. Until we receive a ruling from a CPA then > > disputing what Mark has posted is only hearsay. I have sent the article > to > > the WISPA accountant for further opinions. I do think it is a valid > > discussion item and eagerly anticipate the accountants findings. > > > > I did want to remind the users of this list the rules though. I have > seen > > things get out of hand in the past. This is an open list and anyone can > > join and it is publicly archived as well. We do want to maintain a > > professional decorum since it does have the WISPA name on it. If we > can't > > control proper etiquette on this list, we may need to discontinue this > list, > > which is not something we wish to do. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Rick Harnish > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of Stuart Pierce > >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:45 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: You're going to love this... New IRS rules] > >> > >> Doesn't seem to be a rule against this type of posting and to me it > >> does have information on running a WISP, however it pertains to any > >> business. > >> > >> Whatever happened to the federal "mandate" or so about no tax on > >> internet access that they extended back in November 2008 ? > >> > >> -- Original Message -- > >> From: "Rick Harnish" > >> Reply-To: WISPA General List > >> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 04:42:49 -0400 > >> > >> >The following are rules of the Wireless@wispa.org list. Please follow > >> the > >> >directions and keep political innuendos for more appropriate venues. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >1) Always be civil and professional. (Violations: One Warning > >> then One > >> >Week Suspension from All WISPA Lists) > >> >2) No rude comments. (Violations: One Week Suspension from All WISPA > >> Lists) > >> >3) No cussing. (Violations: One Week Suspension from All WISPA Lists) > >> >4) No personal attacks or complaining on the list. (Violations: One > >> Week > >> >Suspension from All WISPA Lists) > >> >5) No selling or self promotion allowed. (Violations: One Warning then > >> an > >> >Invoice for minimum $150 ad will be generated) > >> >6) Commercial advertisements of any kind require prior board approval. > >> (Send > >> >requests to http://contact.wispa.org/) > >> >7) Issues regarding operation of the list or problems with list > >> members are > >> >to be directed to http://contact.wispa.org/ > >> >8) Read and adhere to the WISPA Code of Ethics found at > >> >http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=3 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Code of Ethics > >> > > >> >The objective of the Code of Ethics is to maintain and enforce the > >> highest > >> >standards of ethical professional practices that will make membership > >> in the > >> >Wireless Internet Service Providers Association a recognized mark of > >> >experience, stability, integrity and competence. > >> > > >> >ARTICLE I > >> >Member
Re: [WISPA] You're going to love this... New IRS rules
This has always been in effect for individuals. Its not for entities and its surely not new -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "MDK" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:40:21 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] You're going to love this... New IRS rules http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/04/26/costly-irs-mandate-slipped-into-health-bill/ It requires 1099's for EVERY entity you do more than $600 business with a year. Gas station. Walmart, your landlord, a $700 used car or truck.Ebay purchases, ALL require 1099's now if you go over $600 a year. That's almost enough for me to throw up my hands and say "I quit". Frankly, we should all just quit. For a week. Or a month.Call up the White House and say "you want it so bad, well now you got it, we quit". When about 50 million of us do that, perhaps the administration will realize it should consult someone besides insane marxists as it concerns business and economics. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount
Just mount it to a commercial PTZ camera mount. There are plenty on E-Bay and you can mount a camera on it to so you know what you are looking at Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Chuck Profito" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:49:18 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount why not just two TV rotor motors mounted in a cross. Or use a ham rotor on bottom and light channel master on top. The pole could go thru it so you could mount a wireless zoom camera to the other side for balance and LOS convenience. or put Horiz on one side and Vertical on the other, and don't forget the camera in the middle. you could be the local loco wisp reporter at all the breaking news sites. (We know you already have the scanner) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount Thanks, Mike. That's pretty close to what I envision. I need azimuth and rotation. I have a set of step motors from an upgrade on one of my telescopes and thought of maybe doing a McGyver on it but if there was something already out there that would allow a small dish to mount to it it would save me time since I never have any as it is. The mast has a 125 pound payload rating so I can go pretty beefy. Bob- - Original Message - From: "Mike" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount > Not exactly sure what you're looking for, but Yaesu makes some really nice > Az/El rotators. I would think azimuth control would be good enough. > There > are a lot of cheap TV antenna type rotators. > > Friendly Regards, > > Mike > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 12:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Remotely Adjusted Dish Mount > > I recently acquired an 80 foot Super Heavy Duty Will-Burt telescopic mast > with the goal for dual use of A) Site Survey and B) Emergency use during > AP > failure. > > I'm looking for a dish mount that can be remotely adjusted while the mast > is > extended. I haven't seen anything in my searches, wanted to know if > anyone > is using such a thing or have any recommendations of something they have > seen. > > It's a cool toy so I gots to at least make the wife think I'm really gonna > use it. > > Bob- > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Who to use to license a 11ghz backhaul link?
LOL! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Charles Wu Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:39:26 To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA GeneralList Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who to use to license a 11ghz backhaul link? Hi Scott, To make sure you're getting the best service, I would start by first making sure that whomever you're thinking of going with is registered with the FCC and the NSMA -- otherwise, you're just going through a middle-man http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=licensing_1&id=microwave I'd then base my decision on companies on that list that are active members, supporters and/or dues-paying contributors of WISPA and the WISP industry I'm sure if you make it to that stage, the person you decide to ultimately negotiate with will give you a competitive and reasonable price =) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:21 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Who to use to license a 11ghz backhaul link? Any recommendations? I know several do it, looking for recommendations based on past experience / price. Thanks. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?
So you are making your decision on what you saw with Dragonwave equipment in 2007??? That is not making a lot of sense. You can open the diagnostic files in notepad and look at everything. No secrets. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Adam Kennedy Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:25:17 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? The diagnostics were all windows based it seemed. The issue we have is that not all machines are windows based and it would be nice to have our monitoring system be able to run some of the diagnostics as well (which is Linux based). Not only that but it felt like the deep diags were all "closed source" and we would have to send the tech file to Dragonwave support in order to find out what is going on. There just didn't seem to be as many metrics available to us in Dragonwave as there were in other equipment for SNMP etc. I prefer to be proactive in resolving issues :) But this also was late 2007, I'm sure quite a bit has changed since then. On 4/20/10 10:21 PM, "lakel...@gbcx.net" wrote: > What turned you off to Dragonwave? > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Adam Kennedy > Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:40:59 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? > > What issues did you have with Nera? We were looking to go with them due to > the issues we have had with Ceragon. We looked at Dragonwave as well but > several things turned us off of them. I don't know of any other big players > that can do 200+ mbit with options of 11Ghz, 6Ghz and external antennas (We > also use Andrews). > > > On 4/20/10 1:32 PM, "Rubens Kuhl" wrote: > >> Prior to be replaced with Ceragon, most of the radios were Nera (bad >> choice) with Andrew antennas (good choice). The Andrew antennas had >> better alignment controls and, most important, better fixation and >> waterproofing. Andrew antennas also had more diameter options, like >> having three-feet, not just two or four-feet. >> >> >> Rubens >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Tom DeReggi >> wrote: regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered both and the decision was based on price... :-( >>> >>> Why do you dislike the RFS antenna compared to the Andrews? >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Rubens Kuhl" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? >>> >>> >>> Only good experience with them. The radios just work. Some were 11 >>> GHz, some were 18 GHz, only one or two 7.5 GHz. >>> Throughput matched the nominal 200/300/400 Mbps for small packets; for >>> large packets, 170 out of 200 Mbps and 360 out of 400 Mbps; those >>> values are consistent with "IP-based" (not SDH/PDH) radios (they are >>> not 140 or 155 Mbps multiples), but is the total opposite of what we >>> would usually expect, as it is easier for the radio to deal with small >>> packets, not harder. Considering the Internet traffic has 50% of 64 >>> bytes packets, that would make the I-mix throughput pretty close to >>> nominal; the monitoring software has RMON capabilities so you can see >>> your packet size distribution in real time. >>> >>> Adaptive modulation worked hitless for reducing speed during rain >>> periods, but not every time it would go up again. It was a 50-50 >>> chance that ACM would bring the modulation up again, so it's an index >>> you want to be looking at your NOC. >>> >>> We did some firmware upgrades without issues; license upgrades were >>> trickier and sometimes Ceragon had to generate license files again >>> after we've sent the output from the failed upgrades. >>> >>> Except for 7.5 GHz units all the models had integrated antennas; we >>> regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered >>> both and the decision was based on price... :-( >>> >>> Rubens >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Paolo Di Francesco >>> wrote: Just curious, what about Ceragon? Any good/bad experience with them? Regards > We just did a multi leg 11 Ghz system, 2 21 miles plus links. We are in > rain zone N so lets see how they hold. > > Used Trango Apex with 4.75 dishes (Trango Branded) Rssi was as expected > in the low 50's. Full 256 QAM (260 + Mbps) > > Did I mention both were over water? You cant go wrong with Trango o DW > Horizon > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Carullo > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:24 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [W
Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?
Well with the exception of the CAT5 limitations I believe your concerns with the Horizon Compact are unfounded. I have nearly 40 links in Manhattan on some of the largest buildings in America that get direct hits all the time and have had NO issues with Transtector arrestors. Good luck with Nera -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Adam Kennedy Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:27:53 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? Oh, and PoE seemed too "Unlicensed"-ish for us. I hate dealing with PoE with any equipment backhauls, no matter the brand. We need the ability to mount a licensed link without worrying how far the Cat5 run is. We have also had some serious issues with Cat5 lightning arrestors and we would really rather not deal with those headaches on our licensed backhauls. They need to be five 9's =) On 4/20/10 10:21 PM, "lakel...@gbcx.net" wrote: > What turned you off to Dragonwave? > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Adam Kennedy > Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:40:59 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? > > What issues did you have with Nera? We were looking to go with them due to > the issues we have had with Ceragon. We looked at Dragonwave as well but > several things turned us off of them. I don't know of any other big players > that can do 200+ mbit with options of 11Ghz, 6Ghz and external antennas (We > also use Andrews). > > > On 4/20/10 1:32 PM, "Rubens Kuhl" wrote: > >> Prior to be replaced with Ceragon, most of the radios were Nera (bad >> choice) with Andrew antennas (good choice). The Andrew antennas had >> better alignment controls and, most important, better fixation and >> waterproofing. Andrew antennas also had more diameter options, like >> having three-feet, not just two or four-feet. >> >> >> Rubens >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Tom DeReggi >> wrote: regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered both and the decision was based on price... :-( >>> >>> Why do you dislike the RFS antenna compared to the Andrews? >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Rubens Kuhl" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? >>> >>> >>> Only good experience with them. The radios just work. Some were 11 >>> GHz, some were 18 GHz, only one or two 7.5 GHz. >>> Throughput matched the nominal 200/300/400 Mbps for small packets; for >>> large packets, 170 out of 200 Mbps and 360 out of 400 Mbps; those >>> values are consistent with "IP-based" (not SDH/PDH) radios (they are >>> not 140 or 155 Mbps multiples), but is the total opposite of what we >>> would usually expect, as it is easier for the radio to deal with small >>> packets, not harder. Considering the Internet traffic has 50% of 64 >>> bytes packets, that would make the I-mix throughput pretty close to >>> nominal; the monitoring software has RMON capabilities so you can see >>> your packet size distribution in real time. >>> >>> Adaptive modulation worked hitless for reducing speed during rain >>> periods, but not every time it would go up again. It was a 50-50 >>> chance that ACM would bring the modulation up again, so it's an index >>> you want to be looking at your NOC. >>> >>> We did some firmware upgrades without issues; license upgrades were >>> trickier and sometimes Ceragon had to generate license files again >>> after we've sent the output from the failed upgrades. >>> >>> Except for 7.5 GHz units all the models had integrated antennas; we >>> regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered >>> both and the decision was based on price... :-( >>> >>> Rubens >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Paolo Di Francesco >>> wrote: Just curious, what about Ceragon? Any good/bad experience with them? Regards > We just did a multi leg 11 Ghz system, 2 21 miles plus links. We are in > rain zone N so lets see how they hold. > > Used Trango Apex with 4.75 dishes (Trango Branded) Rssi was as expected > in the low 50's. Full 256 QAM (260 + Mbps) > > Did I mention both were over water? You cant go wrong with Trango o DW > Horizon > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Carullo > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:24 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? > > Looking for options... > > Trango Apex is on top of my list for now. If that needs to chan
Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB?
What turned you off to Dragonwave? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Adam Kennedy Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:40:59 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? What issues did you have with Nera? We were looking to go with them due to the issues we have had with Ceragon. We looked at Dragonwave as well but several things turned us off of them. I don't know of any other big players that can do 200+ mbit with options of 11Ghz, 6Ghz and external antennas (We also use Andrews). On 4/20/10 1:32 PM, "Rubens Kuhl" wrote: > Prior to be replaced with Ceragon, most of the radios were Nera (bad > choice) with Andrew antennas (good choice). The Andrew antennas had > better alignment controls and, most important, better fixation and > waterproofing. Andrew antennas also had more diameter options, like > having three-feet, not just two or four-feet. > > > Rubens > > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Tom DeReggi > wrote: >>> regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered >>> both and the decision was based on price... :-( >> >> Why do you dislike the RFS antenna compared to the Andrews? >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rubens Kuhl" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? >> >> >> Only good experience with them. The radios just work. Some were 11 >> GHz, some were 18 GHz, only one or two 7.5 GHz. >> Throughput matched the nominal 200/300/400 Mbps for small packets; for >> large packets, 170 out of 200 Mbps and 360 out of 400 Mbps; those >> values are consistent with "IP-based" (not SDH/PDH) radios (they are >> not 140 or 155 Mbps multiples), but is the total opposite of what we >> would usually expect, as it is easier for the radio to deal with small >> packets, not harder. Considering the Internet traffic has 50% of 64 >> bytes packets, that would make the I-mix throughput pretty close to >> nominal; the monitoring software has RMON capabilities so you can see >> your packet size distribution in real time. >> >> Adaptive modulation worked hitless for reducing speed during rain >> periods, but not every time it would go up again. It was a 50-50 >> chance that ACM would bring the modulation up again, so it's an index >> you want to be looking at your NOC. >> >> We did some firmware upgrades without issues; license upgrades were >> trickier and sometimes Ceragon had to generate license files again >> after we've sent the output from the failed upgrades. >> >> Except for 7.5 GHz units all the models had integrated antennas; we >> regret boughting those from RFS instead of Andrew, but Ceragon offered >> both and the decision was based on price... :-( >> >> Rubens >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Paolo Di Francesco >> wrote: >>> Just curious, >>> >>> what about Ceragon? Any good/bad experience with them? >>> >>> Regards >>> We just did a multi leg 11 Ghz system, 2 21 miles plus links. We are in rain zone N so lets see how they hold. Used Trango Apex with 4.75 dishes (Trango Branded) Rssi was as expected in the low 50's. Full 256 QAM (260 + Mbps) Did I mention both were over water? You cant go wrong with Trango o DW Horizon Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:24 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Best Backhaul link 11Ghz 20 miles @ 100MB? Looking for options... Trango Apex is on top of my list for now. If that needs to change let me know... thanks. Kinda sticking to 11Ghz because I need to keep the dishes at 4ft or under. In Florida. Any other better options let me know. Thanks for your time Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Un
Re: [WISPA] Proxim quickbridge 5054
I have around 700 deplayed in ptp configuration. The 5054 quickbridge is going to max out around 22-24 Mbps. You said you have 'high' interference but not sure what you mean as it relates to the spectrum. 5.8 only or all 5 GHz band? You also don't specify link path length. Is this a short or longh link? Personally if its a short link and I wanted to ensure the VoIP traffic got thru I would use the new 8100 Quickbridge. You could set it for a 20 or 40 MHz channel and MIMO would pretty much guarantee that the traffic would get thru Not the most spectrally efficient method but it would work Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:42:30 To: Subject: [WISPA] Proxim quickbridge 5054 Anybody used this unit as a ptp? I have an area that has high interference and was looking for something that would give me the most options to work around it. It will be used for a customer that will have 30 voip lines and 10 Meg data. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
I agree with WHO. But you are talking MONTHS and not even sure if anything has been done. How many people out here can wait MONTHS for a cure to their issue? And its unknown if there even was or will be any enforcement action. If I make a complaint to enforcement regarding a licensed interference issue they are on that within 24 hours. If I tell them who and where and/or its a public safety issue they will usually respond within hours. But you're saying MONTHS with all the right info. I don't know. Still sounds like what I said. :-) -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: > I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to > call. > > I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop > his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. > > When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told him > that there was nothing they could do. > > I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the > consumer complaint folks. > > He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, > clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the good > guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also > able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the > complaint. > > This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd > heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far enough > along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. > > 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation in > order first. > > It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that we > can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over the > allowable power levels. > > For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below, > legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger > antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can get > that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better ears > also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also > means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which > means less interference etc. etc. etc. > > laters, > marlon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lakeland" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > > >> Marlon, >> >> You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and >> could >> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp >> calling >> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you >> usually only get the recorded TV interference message. >> >> Maybe I'm just totally wrong. >> >> -B- >> >> >> >> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >> >>> H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Lakeland" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>> >>> >>>> Sorry I side with Travis. >>>> >>>> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly >>>> and >>>> DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and >>>> workforce >>>> they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections >>>> that >>>> they are required by law to do. >>>> >>>> There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless they >>>> are >>>> causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or some >>>> other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint >>>> between >>>> two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved. >>>> >>>> Thats the reality of the matter. >>>> >>>> -B- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerry Richardson writes: >>>> >>>>> Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky wheel >
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Marlon, You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and could probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp calling the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office you usually only get the recorded TV interference message. Maybe I'm just totally wrong. -B- Marlon K. Schafer writes: > H, I've had much better luck that than Bob. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Lakeland" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > > >> Sorry I side with Travis. >> >> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly >> and >> DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce >> they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections that >> they are required by law to do. >> >> There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless they >> are >> causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or some >> other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint between >> two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved. >> >> Thats the reality of the matter. >> >> -B- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jerry Richardson writes: >> >>> Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky wheel >>> gets the grease. >>> >>> Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending ISP, >>> previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case. >>> >>> Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are affecting >>> other legitimate users of the band. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:38 PM >>> To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>> >>> Negative. I know of an ISP using 5 watt amps on 2.4ghz omni antennas. >>> They have been reported several times to the FCC, and nothing happens. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: >>>> On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is >>>>> intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get involved >>>>> but it will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong >>>>> enough case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> if they are using amps, then the FCC would get involved. >>>> >>>> leon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ &g
Re: [WISPA] rugged spectrum analyzer
Kurt, Try Paul Zappa at RF Image in Las Vegas 702-248-0414. I purchased several demo Anritsu SiteMasters from him and he had demo MS2721 Spectrum Analyzers for about $6500 if I remember. He's a straight shooter and I have never had a problem. His E-Bay feedback is 100% with 735 sales. And he sells a lot of Anritsu equipment. Bob Kurt Fankhauser writes: > Looking at possibly purchasing a rugged, industrial spectrum analyzer up to > 6ghz. > > > > I know these are costly (over 10k) but after 6 years we are finally in a > position to buy one. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am looking at the > following model > http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=377674 > <http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=377674&eventPage=1 >> &eventPage=1 > > > > Does anyone have any experience with it or suggestions to another? > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Last I heard there were 2 engineers in the NYC office to cover 350+ annual TV, radio station, maritime, radar, etc. inspections. Do the math. Including travel it just doesn't work and they are required to do the inspections. Add that to interference complaints of licensed services by other licensed operators, unauthorized broadcast pirates and tower painting and lighting complaints and there is no time or resources to chase Part 15 -vs- Part 15 complaints. Now, if it involves interference to a licensed operator who the FCC is required by law to protect then yes it will happen with the right evidence and information.. I know of several cases where there was more than enough "evidence" including pictures, statements, recordings, etc. and still nothing was done. It just comes down to priorities. -B- Tom DeReggi writes: > I dont necessarilly agree with that, and I dont think the FCC would either. > What I do know is they dont want to go out of their way to harrass WISPs and > take action that will result in Consumers loosing their broadband, > unnecessarilly. (although they cant say that out loud.) > To get action from the FCC, the complainer needs to provide proof that the > alledged violator is in fact in violation, and proof that it is causing > harm. > It cant just be a theory or allegation. > I recognize there are budget cuts, shortage of time, and higher priorities, > but also I dont believe there are really all that many complaints that > actually are backed with real proof, and really getting harmed. > The FCC has enough man power to respond to legitimate critical complaints, > where there is a good reason to investigate. > > However, I agree engaging an Attorny and having him send a letter is > probably a quicker way to get an initial response. > > The second both sides start to have to spend money at lawyer rates, people > get real quickly, on how important it is or isn't to have the illegal radio > isntalled or removed. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lakeland" > To: "Tom Sharples" ; "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > > >> This is really the only way to handle this. Send them a cease and desist >> letter because they are interrupting your service and serve them certified >> mail. Then go after them with a lawyer. >> >> Unless the entity that is receiving interference is the FCC or works for >> them, I would say you have no chance whatsoever to get any action from the >> Commission. >> >> Part 15 is not allowed to interfere and must accept any interference that >> is >> does receive. A simple clarification from the FCC. "Don't call >> us.We'll call you" >> >> -B- >> >> >> >> >> >> Tom Sharples writes: >> >>> There is another approach to consider - sue them for "tortuous >>> interference" >>> : >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference >>> >>> which has nothing to do with RF interference, but rather refers to >>> intentionally disturbing or destroying your business relationship with >>> your >>> customers. >>> >>> Tom S. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jerry Richardson" >>> To: ; "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>> >>> >>>> Only if over the EIRP of 36dB. >>>> >>>> One does not even need amps to be over the limit. 23dB --> 17dB panel = >>>> 40dB. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:30 PM >>>> To: wireless@wispa.org >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>> >>>> On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: >>>>> Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is >>>>> intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get involved >>>>> but it will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong >>&
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
Sorry I side with Travis. I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly and DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections that they are required by law to do. There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless they are causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or some other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint between two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved. Thats the reality of the matter. -B- Jerry Richardson writes: > Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky wheel gets > the grease. > > Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending ISP, > previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case. > > Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are affecting > other legitimate users of the band. > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:38 PM > To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > > Negative. I know of an ISP using 5 watt amps on 2.4ghz omni antennas. > They have been reported several times to the FCC, and nothing happens. > > Travis > Microserv > > Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: >> On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: >> >>> Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is >>> intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get involved but >>> it will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong enough case. >>> >>> >> if they are using amps, then the FCC would get involved. >> >> leon >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
This is really the only way to handle this. Send them a cease and desist letter because they are interrupting your service and serve them certified mail. Then go after them with a lawyer. Unless the entity that is receiving interference is the FCC or works for them, I would say you have no chance whatsoever to get any action from the Commission. Part 15 is not allowed to interfere and must accept any interference that is does receive. A simple clarification from the FCC. "Don't call us.We'll call you" -B- Tom Sharples writes: > There is another approach to consider - sue them for "tortuous interference" > : > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference > > which has nothing to do with RF interference, but rather refers to > intentionally disturbing or destroying your business relationship with your > customers. > > Tom S. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jerry Richardson" > To: ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! > > >> Only if over the EIRP of 36dB. >> >> One does not even need amps to be over the limit. 23dB --> 17dB panel = >> 40dB. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff >> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:30 PM >> To: wireless@wispa.org >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >> >> On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: >>> Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is >>> intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get involved >>> but it will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong enough >>> case. >>> >> if they are using amps, then the FCC would get involved. >> >> leon >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2675 - Release Date: 02/08/10 > 07:35:00 > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ham Fest
That's great. Then we will have something to tie up every guy that walks by with a base ball cap that has a rubber duckie antenna sticking out of it ! LOL! Blake Bowers writes: > If I don't get rid of some more of this rope I may have a 21 > foot trailer full of it at the flea market at Dayton. > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:18 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Ham Fest > > >> OK, I got invited from a good friend to go to Ham Fest in Dayton in >> May. Anyone else going? >> -RickG >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Proxim QB-8100 / MP-8100
They Rock. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Patrick Cole Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:44:49 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Proxim QB-8100 / MP-8100 Hi all, Proxim's new 3x3 and 2x2 MIMO based radios... The local proxim rep is pushing these products very hard and the price looks very competetive, has anyone used them and can comment on how they perform with regards to performance, reliability & features. Regards, Patrick Linear G WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Mounts
www.sitepro1.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Baird Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:48:22 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Tower Mounts We are planning on opening up a few new towers and will have limited space vertically, I'm looking for a source for sidearms to mount my sector antennas on. The new towers are A-Frames, and I need to extend out from the tower probably at 2'-3' away. I'd like to hear what others use for this sort of thing and what vendors I can look to for products to fit our needs. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder
A Licensed Eletrician with an Insurance Certificate. :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Justin Wilson - MTIN Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:04:56 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder Licensed Electrician is also a way of CYA in case anything goes wrong. -- Justin Wilson http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Charles N Wyble Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:10:39 -0700 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friendly reminder Josh Luthman wrote: > Licensed is good. Someone you know with experience and knowledge is > better. Very very true. > Especially when you ask them to do a solid job. > Yep. > Did something happen recently? > Nope. Just the recent thread on the list about switching stuff around. It seemed wrong to me, and looks like it is according to follow up posts. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques
That will work. But the mastic is a PITA for a reason. It works all the time regardless the weather, temp, etc. We have tried a lot of things over the years and its the one that always keeps the water out -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steven McGehee Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:52:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques Quick question, does anyone have any thoughts or experience with 3M's Temflex Rubber Splicing Tape? http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/SolutionsCatalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OUP7_nid=SZ13NWVCGZbeCKZWSKS2T3gl It's really cheap ($3/22ft x .75") and obviously economy-class stuff, but I just need it for a coat of weathering, not high voltage lines. I find Scotch 2200 series Mastic to be too much trouble to remove when necessary and I want something less gooey than the Thomas & Betts Duct Putty I have been using. My thought would be to do a layer of Super-88, then Temflex, then a layer of Super-33 tape on top. Just curious; thanks. -Steven On 3/2/2010 12:58, Marco Coelho wrote: > We prefer: > Layer Material > 1 coating of liquid scotch coat > 2 3M self vulcanizing tape > 3 coating of liquid scotch coat > 4 3M self vulcanizing tape > 5 cheap electrical tape > > The liquid scotch coat really seals everything up. No issues with > pvc, teflon, or other jacket materials. The 3M tape creates a > continuous sheath (rap bottom up). The second layer ensures no leaks > if the first layer was misaplied. The electrical tape is to prevent > the sun from breaking down the 23 tape. > > I've never seen a cable done this way leak in any fashion. I cannot > say this for mastic. > > Marco Coelho > Argon Technologies Inc. > > Items: > > http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=340-250&source=googleps > > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=EWr&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=scotch+23+rubber+splicing+tape&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=12178016387841989432&ei=9FCNS7LrGNOWtgfJ6qTwCA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CB8Q8wIwAg#ps-sellers > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in Ft. Myers FL
I tried that 2 weeks ago with no answer -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Scott Carullo" Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:39:09 To: Subject: [WISPA] Service in Ft. Myers FL Need some - contact me with info thanks... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?
Never say never. Maybe if you are right next to their site but I am pretty confident that you can get a site approved with the right engineering study and maybe a waiver request. Depends on how bad you want it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Pat O'Connor" Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:11:27 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? If you are in an exclusion zone with SES Americom you can count on never as far as being able to deploy WiMax. ralphlists wrote: > It is a new nationwide license. But I'm also interested in the time frame > for the base station registration as well. > > It's not me. It is for a friend. > My nationwide license took 4 months, but that was back when they first came > out. > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately? > > Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license? > > > > On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote: > >> How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?
I agree with Brad. Lifting a 4' dish is like lifting a 13 sq ft piece of plywood. Be careful. You need to tag this load about 150+ feet from the base of the tower to protect other equipment on the tower and your antenna. Very unpredictable if not rigged right. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Gino Villarini" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:12:45 To: ; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Electric Hoist? I need to Install 2 4' dishes @ 180, Im looking for a place to buy or rent a capstan hoist Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations
Really? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Lists" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:02:33 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Prefab Tower Foundations WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower contracts
Many cell guys do this when building sites. Each site is its own corporation Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:38:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower contracts The more I do these, the more I like using a separate corporation for the purpose. Thanks! On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote: > I am sure Blake will agree with me. No two contracts are the same > especially in the tower business and especially when dealing with > municipalities. > > If you don't like a clause submit a change request. Their will either > entertain it or say no. The other thing that might happen is they just > stop talking to you. > > I don't know what you are paying them, if anything, but I would run with > this. Its not out of the norm but it would be nice to have the > reciprocity in case they do something that makes you liable. If you are > that worried, open another corporation and sign the lease under that > one. Lease "network services" to you existing company and if something > ever happens you have the buffer. > > Slimy but its done every day. > > -B- > > > > RickG wrote: >> One of our favorite topics :) >> >> So, I've had fairly good luck with the tower agreements that I've >> posted until lately. It seems people are getting real particular these >> days, which is fine. After two years of discusions, I've finally made >> some progress of getting on a nearby towns water tank. My issue is >> that they have scrapped my contract and come up with an "easement >> contract" of their own. Its not too bad but I'm concerned about the >> "indemification section". Basically, it reads as follows: >> >> INDEMNIFICATION: >> The Grantee does hereby agree to defend, hold harmless, and indemnify >> Grantor, its successors and assigns, from any claim of liability or any other >> claim involving the access, utilities, or arising out of the Grantee's >> use of the >> easement described above, unless caused by Grantor's negligent or willful >> conduct or Grantor's failure to fulfill its maintenance obligations as set >> forth >> in Paragraph 6 above. As a government. the Grantor reserves all rights >> afford under its Sovereign Immunity. >> >> Basically, it protects them but not me. LOL, normally my contract does >> the reverse! Thoughts? >> -RickG >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Broadband plan call for more spectrum---- but notforWISP's that's for sure.
I don't think that money would buy the whiite space over The mist remote part of Alaska I'm sorry to say Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Philip Dorr Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:43:14 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Broadband plan call for more spectrum but not forWISP's that's for sure. What if all the wispa members put in $200 (or $2000) to buy the space? On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM, MDK wrote: > Yup. "Auction" = "huge dollars", the kind none of us have. > > > > -- > From: "Brian Webster" > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:33 PM > To: "WISPA List" ; "memb...@wispa.org" > ; "Motorla List Beehive" > Subject: [WISPA] FCC Broadband plan call for more spectrum but not > forWISP's that's for sure. > >> This plan also looks real bad for white spaces --- >> >> 1. FCC plan calls for 500 MHz of new spectrum for wireless >> >> By Phil Goldstein Comment | Forward >> >> WASHINGTON--FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said the commission's national >> broadband plan will call for freeing up 500 MHz of spectrum over the next >> decade for mobile broadband use, noting that expanded wireless Internet >> access will be key to making America more technologically competitive. > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Broadband plan call for more spectrum---- but notforWISP's that's for sure.
You know what will make America more technogically competitive? Not selling out the little guy for the big guy with money. I hate to say it but I would be really surprised to see any real white space for solid Wisp unlicensed use. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "MDK" Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:37:36 To: ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Broadband plan call for more spectrum but not forWISP's that's for sure. Yup. "Auction" = "huge dollars", the kind none of us have. -- From: "Brian Webster" Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:33 PM To: "WISPA List" ; "memb...@wispa.org" ; "Motorla List Beehive" Subject: [WISPA] FCC Broadband plan call for more spectrum but not forWISP's that's for sure. > This plan also looks real bad for white spaces --- > > 1. FCC plan calls for 500 MHz of new spectrum for wireless > > By Phil Goldstein Comment | Forward > > WASHINGTON--FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said the commission's national > broadband plan will call for freeing up 500 MHz of spectrum over the next > decade for mobile broadband use, noting that expanded wireless Internet > access will be key to making America more technologically competitive. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Earthquake in Northern Illinois
It was somebodies fault. I have an alibi. :-) -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "St. Louis Broadband" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:51:20 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Earthquake in Northern Illinois Didn't feel in in SE Missouri. What fault is that? Looks too North to be New Madrid. Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:41 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Earthquake in Northern Illinois http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/us2010snay.php I know you in CA are like yeah, yeah, big deal... but we only feel them once every few years. No damage that I'm aware of. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT
www.laborsavingdevices com Something for everyone. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:34:14 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT Glow rods are the best things since sliced bread! AKA fish sticks, fiber poles, etc. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Robert West wrote: > I use the same things, love em! I use them in drop ceilings, can certainly > see them in the dark! They are also my favorite tool with vinyl siding. I > hate putting holes in vinyl siding so I use a siding tool to separate the > sections, push the rods in the gap at the corner of the house behind the > siding to where I want the hole. Drill, stuff it in, pull the rods back > out, put the siding back together.. No sign of ever being there. > > I picked mine up at Lowes I think. Have 2 packs of them for extra length. > I think they were called "Fish Sticks". > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of David Hulsebus > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:59 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT > > I like the glow rods, we use 4 ft sections of a fiberglass rods with > threaded ends that I bought 30 years ago to clean my chimney. I have > 40 ft. I think I paid less than $5 for extension rods without a bristle > head. I've seen them at Walmart and Tractor Supply. > > Dave Hulsebus > > AJ wrote: > > We've used a conduit rodder with mixed success in the past - works > excellent > > for buried conduit that is partially blocked; drop ceiling work is a bit > > more complicated but for the majority of the time, if it's a drop > > ceiling/plenum space, it's no longer than our standard fish tape. > > > > http://www.wctproducts.com/rodder_page.htm#bigbuddy > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Scott Carullo > wrote: > > > > > >> Good morning... > >> > >> Looking for a good fiberglass fish tape 250-500 feet > >> > >> Anyone that has any good suggestions on what they have used and like let > me > >> know please. > >> > >> I already have the vacuum and string rig the fish tape is for something > >> else... Thanks > >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listin
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No available rooms for 50 miles. I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and abandon the thing! LOL -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Blake Bowers" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 To: ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as packed as it was 10 years ago too. 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the first place I stopped at, a Drury. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging in > the > area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the > convention. > There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for your > idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the > locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot of > competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay > higher > airfare. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > > Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells.. > > I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of the > large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so > much > I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go across > town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort > of > towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would we > get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. The > bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more > people > without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event that > would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us > WISP > operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, of > course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use. > :) > > > Anyway, just an idea. > > Bob- > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions. > > I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of > putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on that > process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own > show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some > potential as a fund raiser. > > What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to > put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and > then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale > up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right > now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the > day. > > Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are willing > to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so > that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP > business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show > that our members would all like to go to.They are going to do it on > a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread > WISPAs message beyond our own little community.Those are strong > positives. > > Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to > the project.Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is.We > will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't > really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go > far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a > staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done > more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing > on our own. > > All this bei
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
I like Ham Let's have it in Nashville or Kansas City. Pulled pork is my favorite! :-) -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:16:21 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I would love for it to be during HAM. Right around the corner from me. On 2/3/10, Robert West wrote: > Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells.. > > I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of the > large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so much > I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go across > town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort of > towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would we > get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. The > bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more people > without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event that > would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us WISP > operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, of > course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use. > :) > > > Anyway, just an idea. > > Bob- > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions. > > I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of > putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on that > process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own > show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some > potential as a fund raiser. > > What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to > put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and > then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale > up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right > now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the > day. > > Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are willing > to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so > that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP > business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show > that our members would all like to go to.They are going to do it on > a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread > WISPAs message beyond our own little community.Those are strong > positives. > > Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to > the project.Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is.We > will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't > really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go > far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a > staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done > more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing > on our own. > > All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so > that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to > happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to > get a show put on. > > Matt Larsen > vistabeam.com > > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> forwarding to the list. >> >> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list rather >> than to the sender? Thanks, >> >> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We need >> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >> >> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. I >> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more > intimate >> etc. >> >> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the year. > It >> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We know >> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what > would >> need to be presented. >> >> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has to DO > a >> show. >> >> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes things. >> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for here >> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >> >> laters, >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: >> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> >> >>> Marlon, >>> T
Re: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e
1351A is the heavy duty outdoor version we use. But that number is for CAT6 I believe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:21:57 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Extra jacketed CAT5e I seen some cat5e once that had a second jacket around it, it was obviously made for outdoors and was very durable and it was running through a woods just laying on the ground. I think it was made by Belkin. Does anyone know what this is and if you have a link where I can get it that would be great. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
I think you forgot the most expensive part. Insurance -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Glenn Kelley Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:28:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul Most towns will allow this - however they may charge you a few fees. 1. Franchise Fee: This can be tricky. Some locales will request to know the number of clients going through the link and then charge you a flat fee per client. If you take a look at your catv bill (and others) you may notice a franchise fee. While this is a general overview - it kinda explains it. 2. Permit Fee: self explanatory 3. Interconnect / Cross Over Fees Overall most of the time these are not expensive - what might be is the interconnect / cross over fees the facility may charge - but of course chances are if your going to the roof or to a pole - you will have those fees. If you contemplate fiber (which imho is a great choice due to the yield of bandwidth ) there are two camps of thought. A. Get just what you need today B. Plan for tomorrow... Either way its best to use an outdoor construction cable as well as one that is built to be stranded between buildings and/or poles: loose tube construction perhaps might be best for the application - just make sure you grab the gel-filled vs empty or dry-block if you plan for this long term. If this is planned to be long term use and is a primary back haul I suggest doing it right the first time. Questions - feel free to ask on the list - or off :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:59 PM, John Thomas wrote: > Midnight overhead fiber run... :-) > > John > > Jeremie Chism wrote: >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >> that range. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul
Btw. The lease is a 5yr lease Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:39:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Short range backhaul It's hard to turn down a ds3 for 2k a month. Just had to figure this part out. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: lakel...@gbcx.net > Date: January 30, 2010 9:29:07 PM CST > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > Reply-To: lakel...@gbcx.net, WISPA General List > > You can get a brand new 38 GHz DS3 hop on Ebay for less than a grand > > For another grand you lease the radio channel and you're done. > > Gives you DS3 out to your router. > > Less than $2K for the real deal. > > Or I have a Proxim DS3 or 45 MHz link used for a great price off list. > > Bob > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Jeremie Chism > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:02:26 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > It's a ds3 connection so 45 Meg. I want something reliable but cost > effective. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:10 PM, "Mike Goicoechea" > wrote: > >> Can you give us more info? Bridgewave or Eband would be great. They >> have the >> highest throughput. What frequencies are available and how much >> bandwidth >> are you looking for. Lastly, what is the ballpark budget for the >> project. >> This can be done from $700 up to $35,000. In other words there are a >> ton of >> options. >> >> Mike Goicoechea >> VP of Operations >> Cielo Systems International >> 806-977-9001 ext 101 >> 806-763-1945 fax >> Skype Mike.Goik >> m...@cielosystems.net >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:47 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul >> >> I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone >> company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to >> get >> it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at >> that range. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
You can get a brand new 38 GHz DS3 hop on Ebay for less than a grand For another grand you lease the radio channel and you're done. Gives you DS3 out to your router. Less than $2K for the real deal. Or I have a Proxim DS3 or 45 MHz link used for a great price off list. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:02:26 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul It's a ds3 connection so 45 Meg. I want something reliable but cost effective. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2010, at 6:10 PM, "Mike Goicoechea" wrote: > Can you give us more info? Bridgewave or Eband would be great. They > have the > highest throughput. What frequencies are available and how much > bandwidth > are you looking for. Lastly, what is the ballpark budget for the > project. > This can be done from $700 up to $35,000. In other words there are a > ton of > options. > > Mike Goicoechea > VP of Operations > Cielo Systems International > 806-977-9001 ext 101 > 806-763-1945 fax > Skype Mike.Goik > m...@cielosystems.net > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:47 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Short range backhaul > > I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get > it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > that range. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > --- > --- > -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul
You can get a Proxim 60250 Quickbridge for about $6K. 100 Mb. Full Duplex. 60 GHz Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Brad Belton" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:35:31 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul Depends on what flavor of fiber you need (SM - MM) and if you want/need their AES256/FIPS encryption or not. If the link is truly "across the street" than a BridgeWave 60GHz link would be a good fit for a FDX GigE pipe. Too much farther than that (depending on the region you plan to deploy) you'll probably need 80GHz for >99.999% availability. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short range backhaul What's the price on bridgewave? It will do gigabit. On 1/30/10, Jeremie Chism wrote: > I have a pop across the street from one of my towers. The phone > company there is giving me a great deal on bandwidth but I have to get > it across to the tower. Any recommendations for something reliable at > that range. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard?
LOL. I remember that! Will the real Stuart Pierce please stand up! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Delp Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:19:34 To: ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard? If I remember that week, he was Stuart Pierce. So was everyone else. :) Mike On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote: > No, I'm Jack Rickard. > > -- Original Message -- > From: John Scrivner > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:20:56 -0600 > > >I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the > founder > >of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new > passion > >these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the > >technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you > >probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet > and > >I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This > is > >better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel > >combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test > >drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even > >more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For > many > >of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. > > > >http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard > > > >John Scrivner > > > > > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?
Get some conduit straps and screw them into the pole Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AJ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:10:10 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? I kinda ruled out stainless hose clamps after seeing a solar panel fall from the leg of a Trylon tower about a decade ago... Granted, there were two sharp points (inside ends of the L shaped tower leg) that probably contributed to the failure in high winds, but in this case where it's only wood, that might work. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bob Moldashel wrote: > Get a piece of 1 1/4" conduit and bend like this: > >l >l >l > l > l > l > l > l > > > And strap it to the pole with stainless hose clamps > > If you are just mounting an omni you can get away with 1" > > -B- > > > > > AJ wrote: > > Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden > > utility pole? > > > > We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a > > wooden utility pole. > > > > I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it > > directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit > > overkill for a single omni. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation?
Well. as a guy that uses this equipment every day I can verify that a large amount of individuals with titles and letters after their names don't have a clue. :-) Not all...just a good quantity of them -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Blake Bowers" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:28:24 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation? No offense, but as also a BSEE, I offer that many people with a degree still have no clue about test equipment or simple things like soldering irons. I recall all too clearly a young lady who had her BSEE doing an internship with the FBI, who had no idea how those components were actually connected together on a board. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation? >I am an EE... I know my way around a spec-an. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Collections
Understood I collect about 90% of my money without even getting in the court house. Just go there, fill out forms and then wait for the phone to ring. Good luck getting them -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:08:20 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Collections I'm too lazy to chase them. If I don't sub it out to someone, no one will be on their butt about paying up. It wouldn't even be an official collections agency, just someone doing a one time consulting type job for me... only instead of configuring a router, they'd be typing into the virtual terminal. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:50 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Collections > Can't you just save them all up and go to small claims court? Make one > trip and don't share any money with anyone. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Mike Hammett" > Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:29:44 > To: > Subject: [WISPA] Collections > > What do you guys pay for people to do collections? > > I was complaining about people that owe me money to someone I know and she > volunteered herself to do the work. I guess she used to work for a > collections company and was quite effective. I'm assuming a percentage of > what she collects, but what percent? 25%, 50%, 75%? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
Marlon the Pittbull Detective. Go get dude. If you pay for a roundtrip ticket I have a friend come out from Brooklyn! LOL Goog Luck Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Marlon K. Schafer" Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:43:32 To: ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site Heya Tracy, Turns out this was a misunderstanding. The equipment that got stolen was the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks. Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working well. We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this out though. It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track down who stole it :-). marlon - Original Message - From: "Tracy Tippett" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site > > Hi Marlon, > > Sorry about your gear - give me a ring > > Tracy Tippett > 866-582-7287 > > --Original Mail-- > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800 > Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site > > Deep sigh. > > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago. Today it's gone. $3,000 in > hardware, poof. > > What do you guys do to secure them? > > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt! > > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there. Pretty > remote location, not at all publicized. > > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh? > > ug > marlon > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Collections
Can't you just save them all up and go to small claims court? Make one trip and don't share any money with anyone. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:29:44 To: Subject: [WISPA] Collections What do you guys pay for people to do collections? I was complaining about people that owe me money to someone I know and she volunteered herself to do the work. I guess she used to work for a collections company and was quite effective. I'm assuming a percentage of what she collects, but what percent? 25%, 50%, 75%? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
