Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
/me bows in reverence ralph wrote: OK- As long as we are BBSing, I actually wrote the TIBBSR BBS in the early 1980s and ran the Flagship TIBBS from my home near Atlanta. I believe that in its heyday, there were over 100 systems running around the US. Even though Texas Instruments said that a TI-99/4 could not operate that way, I obtained all the manuals for the communication and video chips they used and wrote routines to do all the serial I/O and storage. The system could remotely identify other TIs and close the door on those Rataris, Commode-Door Ick 20's and Rotten Apples if the Sysop chose to. Your terminal also spoke to you and welcomed you to the system if you had the speech synthesizer. All this in 24K of BASIC programming and 8K of 9900 Assembly language. Frank, also of Brightlan, was behind the FJJ real time clock/calendar card that was marketed for the TI. Some stuff about TIBBS is here: http://ralphfowler.com/ti994a.html Those were good times. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5 floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis mailto:the...@wmwisp.net the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
My mechanic does a LOT of snow mobiling. He and his buddies all have a gps unit with a built in walkie talkie. Very cool. It uses a rechargeable battery that he says easily lasts a day. I think it'll use AA batteries too in a pinch. That's what I've been thinking of getting. It's a bit big but it would sure be nice to be able to talk on one too. marlon - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: e...@wisp-router.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Looks like a winner so far. And cheap enough as you said. At that price I could do 2 so as to be able to find at least one when I need it. The Earthmate setup was big enough there was no way to lose all that mess. One for me and one for the employee who decides he doesn't want to put it where it belongs. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:05 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous times and it still comes on without complaining. So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end user replaceable though. But for the price I paid if the battery stop taking a charge I will just replace it. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:40 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I use the Garmin Rinos. Street/Topo mapping/logging GPS's combined with a GMRS 2-way radios and a bunch of other stuff. My favorite is the 530. Way cool toys. My advice is always free and worth every penny! -Christopher Erickson Network Design Engineer 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529 Anchorage, AK 99508 N61?11.710' W149?46.723' -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? My mechanic does a LOT of snow mobiling. He and his buddies all have a gps unit with a built in walkie talkie. Very cool. It uses a rechargeable battery that he says easily lasts a day. I think it'll use AA batteries too in a pinch. That's what I've been thinking of getting. It's a bit big but it would sure be nice to be able to talk on one too. marlon - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: e...@wisp-router.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Looks like a winner so far. And cheap enough as you said. At that price I could do 2 so as to be able to find at least one when I need it. The Earthmate setup was big enough there was no way to lose all that mess. One for me and one for the employee who decides he doesn't want to put it where it belongs. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:05 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous times and it still comes on without complaining. So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end user replaceable though. But for the price I paid if the battery stop taking a charge I will just replace it. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:40 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? Chuck Bartosch wrote: Yeah, I remember getting my first one. Felt guilty as hell splurging on that 10 MB version instead of the 5 MB-or instead of just using the perfectly fine second floppy drive. My (now ex-) wife was very supportive though...and said "oh, you should get it". So I did. Graduate students only made like $2/hour back then. Unless you counted all 90 hours we were expected to put in. In that case it was a bit less per hour... ...too bad the kids had to starve though to pay for that first hard drive... Chuck On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Robert West wrote: 10mb hard drive? What the heck would you have that would take up that much room? Overindulgence in the high tech goodies, I'm afraid. You need to rethink your priorities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? You got 5.25" floppies. We havent upgraded from the 8" units! Considered cassette tapes but now thinking about dropping floppies tape and going straight to a winchester hard drive. I hear they are up to 10MB! On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We upgraded our systems a few years ago. We ran abacus 1.0 for years but it got to where we were having to add more rows of wooden balls and I kept losing my place. So, we opened up the wallet and plunked down 6 bucks (I was able to talk them down from 7) for the recent IBM ps/2 running PC-DOS 3.2 and SuperCalc on dual 5.25" floppies. We have no need for 640k and frankly I wasn't about to spend the additional 75 cents the thrift store salesperson wanted to charge us. Running with 384k seems to do the job for us. I looked at windows 286 but I wasn't sure how long that company would be around so we just saved the cash. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1! -RickG On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5 floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5" floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" the...@wmwisp.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds (DD based) on that system as well. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5" floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" the...@wmwisp.net To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
You were a rebel! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5 floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis mailto:the...@wmwisp.net the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I see a trend. I guess running an ISP or a WISP is a natural progression from a BBS. Makes sense to me. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds (DD based) on that system as well. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5 floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis mailto:the...@wmwisp.net the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I ran mine on a Kaypro 2 with two 5.25 floppies and a 300 baud volksmodem. North County BBS in Escondido CA. Blair Davis wrote: I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5 floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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OK- As long as we are BBSing, I actually wrote the TIBBSR BBS in the early 1980s and ran the Flagship TIBBS from my home near Atlanta. I believe that in its heyday, there were over 100 systems running around the US. Even though Texas Instruments said that a TI-99/4 could not operate that way, I obtained all the manuals for the communication and video chips they used and wrote routines to do all the serial I/O and storage. The system could remotely identify other TIs and close the door on those Rataris, Commode-Door Ick 20's and Rotten Apples if the Sysop chose to. Your terminal also spoke to you and welcomed you to the system if you had the speech synthesizer. All this in 24K of BASIC programming and 8K of 9900 Assembly language. Frank, also of Brightlan, was behind the FJJ real time clock/calendar card that was marketed for the TI. Some stuff about TIBBS is here: http://ralphfowler.com/ti994a.html Those were good times. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5 floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis mailto:the...@wmwisp.net the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Dont make me get my TRS-80 out! -RickG On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: I ran GBBS on my Apple ][+ (that I still have)... and also Proving Grounds (DD based) on that system as well. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: I ran my BBS on an Atari 800 Robert West wrote: Sheesh! I ran Fidonet for a time then moved up to PCBoard with 4 nodes. Man, that was livin'. I think I still have my install disks someplace and my huge box of 200 2.5 floppy backup set. Ran it on an IBM XT 286. Speed, brother! All about the speed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Funny, I remember running a BBS on a Timex Sinclair computer. And then along came FIDONET. I sure miss that. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? 5Mb, and 5 min to spin up... Remember watching the lights dim when you turned it on? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Early Saturday morning and playing catch-up with the list since we took our daughter to college yesterday. I had to look at my cell phone, which by-the-way woke me up a few minutes ago because a router down message was coming in from my upstream provider, to see what day it was. Reading all these cell phone posts I thought it was Sunday, and I was in church or a Canopy convention. At 10:19 AM 8/21/2009, you wrote: No level, no walkie, no computer, no gps, no camera -- just my iPhone 3GS (with 2 year $86 replacement insurance from squaretrade) Scott WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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You got 5.25 floppies. We havent upgraded from the 8 units! Considered cassette tapes but now thinking about dropping floppies tape and going straight to a winchester hard drive. I hear they are up to 10MB! On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We upgraded our systems a few years ago. We ran abacus 1.0 for years but it got to where we were having to add more rows of wooden balls and I kept losing my place. So, we opened up the wallet and plunked down 6 bucks (I was able to talk them down from 7) for the recent IBM ps/2 running PC-DOS 3.2 and SuperCalc on dual 5.25 floppies. We have no need for 640k and frankly I wasn't about to spend the additional 75 cents the thrift store salesperson wanted to charge us. Running with 384k seems to do the job for us. I looked at windows 286 but I wasn't sure how long that company would be around so we just saved the cash. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1! -RickG On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot
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10mb hard drive? What the heck would you have that would take up that much room? Overindulgence in the high tech goodies, I'm afraid. You need to rethink your priorities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? You got 5.25 floppies. We havent upgraded from the 8 units! Considered cassette tapes but now thinking about dropping floppies tape and going straight to a winchester hard drive. I hear they are up to 10MB! On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We upgraded our systems a few years ago. We ran abacus 1.0 for years but it got to where we were having to add more rows of wooden balls and I kept losing my place. So, we opened up the wallet and plunked down 6 bucks (I was able to talk them down from 7) for the recent IBM ps/2 running PC-DOS 3.2 and SuperCalc on dual 5.25 floppies. We have no need for 640k and frankly I wasn't about to spend the additional 75 cents the thrift store salesperson wanted to charge us. Running with 384k seems to do the job for us. I looked at windows 286 but I wasn't sure how long that company would be around so we just saved the cash. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1! -RickG On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem
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Yeah, I remember getting my first one. Felt guilty as hell splurging on that 10 MB version instead of the 5 MB-or instead of just using the perfectly fine second floppy drive. My (now ex-) wife was very supportive though...and said oh, you should get it. So I did. Graduate students only made like $2/hour back then. Unless you counted all 90 hours we were expected to put in. In that case it was a bit less per hour... ...too bad the kids had to starve though to pay for that first hard drive... Chuck On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Robert West wrote: 10mb hard drive? What the heck would you have that would take up that much room? Overindulgence in the high tech goodies, I'm afraid. You need to rethink your priorities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? You got 5.25 floppies. We havent upgraded from the 8 units! Considered cassette tapes but now thinking about dropping floppies tape and going straight to a winchester hard drive. I hear they are up to 10MB! On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We upgraded our systems a few years ago. We ran abacus 1.0 for years but it got to where we were having to add more rows of wooden balls and I kept losing my place. So, we opened up the wallet and plunked down 6 bucks (I was able to talk them down from 7) for the recent IBM ps/2 running PC-DOS 3.2 and SuperCalc on dual 5.25 floppies. We have no need for 640k and frankly I wasn't about to spend the additional 75 cents the thrift store salesperson wanted to charge us. Running with 384k seems to do the job for us. I looked at windows 286 but I wasn't sure how long that company would be around so we just saved the cash. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1! -RickG On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I lol at the iphone. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on the building where I am inside Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images to hires large handheld screen either. I find this the most useful gps I've ever owned and I've had dozens. I really like the motionx gps app for the phone it does more than the garmin I had Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Iphone 3gs have a real gps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I am in total agreement! The iPhone is the best phone/gps I have ever owned. MotionX is nice, considering the TomTom stuff that just came out, but would really like to test drive it first. That along with ssh, rap, van clients and instant Exchange sync make it a very useful tool for us. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on the building where I am inside Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images to hires large handheld screen either. I find this the most useful gps I've ever owned and I've had dozens. I really like the motionx gps app for the phone it does more than the garmin I had Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
That was of course supposed to be rdp and vpn, not rap and van. Darn spell checkers :) * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I am in total agreement! The iPhone is the best phone/gps I have ever owned. MotionX is nice, considering the TomTom stuff that just came out, but would really like to test drive it first. That along with ssh, rap, van clients and instant Exchange sync make it a very useful tool for us. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on the building where I am inside Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images to hires large handheld screen either. I find this the most useful gps I've ever owned and I've had dozens. I really like the motionx gps app for the phone it does more than the garmin I had Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Well, for one I'm not a cell phone geek. Geek in everything else but not the cell. I prefer a cell phone that makes a phone call and receive a phone call and that's about it. It's small, sits in my pocket and if I trash the thing somehow, no love lost. (I still use our Motorola Spirit radios for communication to persons down on the ground while on a tower, I know I'll always have a signal with those) I also have this huge issue with having to pay extra to a cell provider to use a feature that has absolutely nothing to do with them. The GPS in the phone is in the phone and if I pay them whatever the going rate is plus this fee and that fee, they will be ever so nice to unlock a feature that was manufactured into my phone that I own outright but they have been blocking with a software edit. I also come from the world of non-integrated components, as in stereo geek from the 70's. I'm on the flip side and could never understand why someone would want everything rolled up in one package. One part goes bad, you throw out all the good parts with the bad. That's probably why I'm a roll your own kinda wireless provider as well and when I buy this GPS, I'll maybe have it for 10 years at least, the cell phone 2 possibly 3 years on the outside. Plus, when the cell phone has problems and I have to send it in, replace it or whatever I'm only out a cell phone, not the other things that are integrated. It's just a different sort of mindset of what we're comfortable with. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS I think his point was, get one that does. After all, the guy is thinking of spending to get a dedicated GPS. A new cell phone (if it didn't have GPS) instead isn't a big stretch I should think. Because not everyone carries a cell phone. If you're going to carry a GPS I'd think you might carry a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. That's pretty easy to do on an iPhone, and I have to imagine on the Pre as well since it's multitasking. Don't know much about the 'berry though. Chuck Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
The modern phones like the iPhone, Pre, and latest blackberry have true satellite GPS. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Yeah, the GoogleEarth app (for the iPhone anyway) is truly awesome. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on the building where I am inside Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images to hires large handheld screen either. I find this the most useful gps I've ever owned and I've had dozens. I really like the motionx gps app for the phone it does more than the garmin I had Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
My Nextel i720 (when I used Nextel) had real GPS. You have to look carefully, but lots of cell phones have real GPS receivers in them. If I'm on a tower, I'm using bluetooth so I have my hands free and then I can look at the GPS at the same time. the iphone doesn't multi-task. The Pre and Blackberries do. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I just love my Blackberry Curve 8900. GPS, wifi, UMA calling (wouldn't be able to do without it all carries suck in this area on indoor coverage). Really nice browser (much nicer then the 8320 I used to have), nice email. Nice resolution on the screen. Can edit word and excel docs. Built in pdf viewer. Of course the push e-mail without use of Exchange email server. Comes with all chat software It's own very excellent Blackberry messenger. Been using many different pda phones over the years but at this point will not trade it in for any other phone/pda on the market. Hate the iphone/itouch for email, chat or anything with typing required. Itouch/iphone is a nice mp3 player to listen to audio books, music or watch videos and play games on (love it as an entertaining device). Give me a real keyboard any day I will take small screen any day to get the benefit of a real key keyboard. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:17:46 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? The modern phones like the iPhone, Pre, and latest blackberry have true satellite GPS. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: My Nextel i720 (when I used Nextel) had real GPS. You have to look carefully, but lots of cell phones have real GPS receivers in them. If I'm on a tower, I'm using bluetooth so I have my hands free and then I can look at the GPS at the same time. the iphone doesn't multi-task. They forgot to tell me that at the store. I'm talking to my gf right now while I'm using the GPS. See, the thing is, if you don't know you can't do something, sometimes you can! ;-) I'll hazard a guess-you can multitask and use the phone as a phone and any other application (at least non-sound using applications) but you probably can't play a game and use telnet and google earth (for example) all at the same time. Damn screens are too small for all that anyway! Chuck The Pre and Blackberries do. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Yeah, my phone on one climb serves the following functions (while on tower) Phone Email SSH into gear Network monitor to make sure all devices are up and running GPS Can take nice photos of the equipment and inside box while up there to assist memory later Can adjust level and tilt of radios (yes, phone has precise apps for this :) Mileage log (milog) to capture mileage on way there and back (and everywhere else I go) and probably more I'm not thinking about No level, no walkie, no computer, no gps, no camera -- just my iPhone 3GS (with 2 year $86 replacement insurance from squaretrade) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? The problem then, is that far more of us are going to be using these new fangled devices and aren't going to have so much knowledge (less as time goes on) about the older ones. However, until I got my iPhone, I felt *exactly* like you did about cell phones. I had zero use for color and not much more for the camera...and it used to piss me off to no end that Verizon had disabled the ability to send pictures you DID take over blue tooth so you didn't have to pay them their extra fee to send a photo. That still grates on me actually, just remembering it ;-). It's not that ATT suddenly gave up all the practices of the Carriers (they did actually give up some though), but that the iPhone (and I hear the Pre is similar) is just so easy to access that functionality and it is s frigging easy to use, and there's so much you can do with so little effort...that it's become a deice I'd find it difficult to work without. Think about it...you're up on a tower and can telnet into a device using your phone, take pictures of the installation, talk to the guy on the ground or the office to coordinate, enter data into a database or check data you need...it's really quite useful. Of course, that has nothing to do with your question now. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Robert West wrote: Well, for one I'm not a cell phone geek. Geek in everything else but not the cell. I prefer a cell phone that makes a phone call and receive a phone call and that's about it. It's small, sits in my pocket and if I trash the thing somehow, no love lost. (I still use our Motorola Spirit radios for communication to persons down on the ground while on a tower, I know I'll always have a signal with those) I also have this huge issue with having to pay extra to a cell provider to use a feature that has absolutely nothing to do with them. The GPS in the phone is in the phone and if I pay them whatever the going rate is plus this fee and that fee, they will be ever so nice to unlock a feature that was manufactured into my phone that I own outright but they have been blocking with a software edit. I also come from the world of non-integrated components, as in stereo geek from the 70's. I'm on the flip side and could never understand why someone would want everything rolled up in one package. One part goes bad, you throw out all the good parts with the bad. That's probably why I'm a roll your own kinda wireless provider as well and when I buy this GPS, I'll maybe have it for 10 years at least, the cell phone 2 possibly 3 years on the outside. Plus, when the cell phone has problems and I have to send it in, replace it or whatever I'm only out a cell phone, not the other things that are integrated. It's just a different sort of mindset of what we're comfortable with. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I hear ya. I can operate all that stuff on the phones, just have no use for it really. I program them, fix them and as far as my Verizon, I wrote some seem edits and unlocked the picture portion in order to transfer via USB cable and activated the mp3 and ringtones functions. Just because it was locked out! The pics I use from time to time but for good quality I grab the Sony digital HD cam. The other stuff, we're small and I use a pad and paper to keep note if I need to but I don't much. The important stuff to me though is the coordinates, can't do without that. Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll order that 80 buck unit this weekend and see how it goes. May get 2 if it's good. My daughter has the iPhone. Loves it but never answers the phone when I call her. I've offered to get her a replacement since obviously it isn't working but she declines. Dunno why. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? The problem then, is that far more of us are going to be using these new fangled devices and aren't going to have so much knowledge (less as time goes on) about the older ones. However, until I got my iPhone, I felt *exactly* like you did about cell phones. I had zero use for color and not much more for the camera...and it used to piss me off to no end that Verizon had disabled the ability to send pictures you DID take over blue tooth so you didn't have to pay them their extra fee to send a photo. That still grates on me actually, just remembering it ;-). It's not that ATT suddenly gave up all the practices of the Carriers (they did actually give up some though), but that the iPhone (and I hear the Pre is similar) is just so easy to access that functionality and it is s frigging easy to use, and there's so much you can do with so little effort...that it's become a deice I'd find it difficult to work without. Think about it...you're up on a tower and can telnet into a device using your phone, take pictures of the installation, talk to the guy on the ground or the office to coordinate, enter data into a database or check data you need...it's really quite useful. Of course, that has nothing to do with your question now. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Robert West wrote: Well, for one I'm not a cell phone geek. Geek in everything else but not the cell. I prefer a cell phone that makes a phone call and receive a phone call and that's about it. It's small, sits in my pocket and if I trash the thing somehow, no love lost. (I still use our Motorola Spirit radios for communication to persons down on the ground while on a tower, I know I'll always have a signal with those) I also have this huge issue with having to pay extra to a cell provider to use a feature that has absolutely nothing to do with them. The GPS in the phone is in the phone and if I pay them whatever the going rate is plus this fee and that fee, they will be ever so nice to unlock a feature that was manufactured into my phone that I own outright but they have been blocking with a software edit. I also come from the world of non-integrated components, as in stereo geek from the 70's. I'm on the flip side and could never understand why someone would want everything rolled up in one package. One part goes bad, you throw out all the good parts with the bad. That's probably why I'm a roll your own kinda wireless provider as well and when I buy this GPS, I'll maybe have it for 10 years at least, the cell phone 2 possibly 3 years on the outside. Plus, when the cell phone has problems and I have to send it in, replace it or whatever I'm only out a cell phone, not the other things that are integrated. It's just a different sort of mindset of what we're comfortable with. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
That's not a bad setup though. Stop talking your evil to me, you devil! Outta my head, Satan!!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yeah, my phone on one climb serves the following functions (while on tower) Phone Email SSH into gear Network monitor to make sure all devices are up and running GPS Can take nice photos of the equipment and inside box while up there to assist memory later Can adjust level and tilt of radios (yes, phone has precise apps for this :) Mileage log (milog) to capture mileage on way there and back (and everywhere else I go) and probably more I'm not thinking about No level, no walkie, no computer, no gps, no camera -- just my iPhone 3GS (with 2 year $86 replacement insurance from squaretrade) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? The problem then, is that far more of us are going to be using these new fangled devices and aren't going to have so much knowledge (less as time goes on) about the older ones. However, until I got my iPhone, I felt *exactly* like you did about cell phones. I had zero use for color and not much more for the camera...and it used to piss me off to no end that Verizon had disabled the ability to send pictures you DID take over blue tooth so you didn't have to pay them their extra fee to send a photo. That still grates on me actually, just remembering it ;-). It's not that ATT suddenly gave up all the practices of the Carriers (they did actually give up some though), but that the iPhone (and I hear the Pre is similar) is just so easy to access that functionality and it is s frigging easy to use, and there's so much you can do with so little effort...that it's become a deice I'd find it difficult to work without. Think about it...you're up on a tower and can telnet into a device using your phone, take pictures of the installation, talk to the guy on the ground or the office to coordinate, enter data into a database or check data you need...it's really quite useful. Of course, that has nothing to do with your question now. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Robert West wrote: Well, for one I'm not a cell phone geek. Geek in everything else but not the cell. I prefer a cell phone that makes a phone call and receive a phone call and that's about it. It's small, sits in my pocket and if I trash the thing somehow, no love lost. (I still use our Motorola Spirit radios for communication to persons down on the ground while on a tower, I know I'll always have a signal with those) I also have this huge issue with having to pay extra to a cell provider to use a feature that has absolutely nothing to do with them. The GPS in the phone is in the phone and if I pay them whatever the going rate is plus this fee and that fee, they will be ever so nice to unlock a feature that was manufactured into my phone that I own outright but they have been blocking with a software edit. I also come from the world of non-integrated components, as in stereo geek from the 70's. I'm on the flip side and could never understand why someone would want everything rolled up in one package. One part goes bad, you throw out all the good parts with the bad. That's probably why I'm a roll your own kinda wireless provider as well and when I buy this GPS, I'll maybe have it for 10 years at least, the cell phone 2 possibly 3 years on the outside. Plus, when the cell phone has problems and I have to send it in, replace it or whatever I'm only out a cell phone, not the other things that are integrated. It's just a different sort of mindset of what we're comfortable with. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I love my Garmin Vista HCx. If all you want is data logging, there's some very tough and inexpensive data loggers out there which are very durable because they're much simpler, no LCD display and few buttons. Greg On Aug 20, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
It doesn't work, He talked me into getting one :s Now for ATT to give me my upgrade Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:29 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? That's not a bad setup though. Stop talking your evil to me, you devil! Outta my head, Satan!!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yeah, my phone on one climb serves the following functions (while on tower) Phone Email SSH into gear Network monitor to make sure all devices are up and running GPS Can take nice photos of the equipment and inside box while up there to assist memory later Can adjust level and tilt of radios (yes, phone has precise apps for this :) Mileage log (milog) to capture mileage on way there and back (and everywhere else I go) and probably more I'm not thinking about No level, no walkie, no computer, no gps, no camera -- just my iPhone 3GS (with 2 year $86 replacement insurance from squaretrade) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Chuck Bartosch Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? The problem then, is that far more of us are going to be using these new fangled devices and aren't going to have so much knowledge (less as time goes on) about the older ones. However, until I got my iPhone, I felt *exactly* like you did about cell phones. I had zero use for color and not much more for the camera...and it used to piss me off to no end that Verizon had disabled the ability to send pictures you DID take over blue tooth so you didn't have to pay them their extra fee to send a photo. That still grates on me actually, just remembering it ;-). It's not that ATT suddenly gave up all the practices of the Carriers (they did actually give up some though), but that the iPhone (and I hear the Pre is similar) is just so easy to access that functionality and it is s frigging easy to use, and there's so much you can do with so little effort...that it's become a deice I'd find it difficult to work without. Think about it...you're up on a tower and can telnet into a device using your phone, take pictures of the installation, talk to the guy on the ground or the office to coordinate, enter data into a database or check data you need...it's really quite useful. Of course, that has nothing to do with your question now. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Robert West wrote: Well, for one I'm not a cell phone geek. Geek in everything else but not the cell. I prefer a cell phone that makes a phone call and receive a phone call and that's about it. It's small, sits in my pocket and if I trash the thing somehow, no love lost. (I still use our Motorola Spirit radios for communication to persons down on the ground while on a tower, I know I'll always have a signal with those) I also have this huge issue with having to pay extra to a cell provider to use a feature that has absolutely nothing to do with them. The GPS in the phone is in the phone and if I pay them whatever the going rate is plus this fee and that fee, they will be ever so nice to unlock a feature that was manufactured into my phone that I own outright but they have been blocking with a software edit. I also come from the world of non-integrated components, as in stereo geek from the 70's. I'm on the flip side and could never understand why someone would want everything rolled up in one package. One part goes bad, you throw out all the good parts with the bad. That's probably why I'm a roll your own kinda wireless provider as well and when I buy this GPS, I'll maybe have it for 10 years at least, the cell phone 2 possibly 3 years on the outside. Plus, when the cell phone has problems and I have to send it in, replace it or whatever I'm only out a cell phone, not the other things that are integrated. It's just a different sort of mindset of what we're comfortable with. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
The initial requestor wouldn't be able to use a data logger. He needed to know the coordinates now but all he needed really to know is coordinates and height so a simple GPS that display just that would suffice. My suggestion would be the Beacon GPS Tracking unit as an example that can be had for about $85 at SAMs club. http://winplususa.com/beacon-gps.html Or can of course be ordered online from numerous sources. Cheapest brand new unit seems to be from Y2incusa ($64.99) http://www.y2incusa.com/beacongpstrackingsystem.aspx Shipping seems reasonable from them as well (not great, but not gauging you to death either). / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I love my Garmin Vista HCx. If all you want is data logging, there's some very tough and inexpensive data loggers out there which are very durable because they're much simpler, no LCD display and few buttons. Greg On Aug 20, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
A handheld GPS unit has more accuracy and features than your run of the mill phone. They also output GPS info to other devices\programs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:27 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Nextels (I believe) have always had real GPS... they just use aGPS to speed initial syncs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? The modern phones like the iPhone, Pre, and latest blackberry have true satellite GPS. Chuck On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I'm with ya brother and that's the one I'm gonna be putting the money on this weekend. Looks to be a winner. Thanks for all the help! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? The initial requestor wouldn't be able to use a data logger. He needed to know the coordinates now but all he needed really to know is coordinates and height so a simple GPS that display just that would suffice. My suggestion would be the Beacon GPS Tracking unit as an example that can be had for about $85 at SAMs club. http://winplususa.com/beacon-gps.html Or can of course be ordered online from numerous sources. Cheapest brand new unit seems to be from Y2incusa ($64.99) http://www.y2incusa.com/beacongpstrackingsystem.aspx Shipping seems reasonable from them as well (not great, but not gauging you to death either). / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I love my Garmin Vista HCx. If all you want is data logging, there's some very tough and inexpensive data loggers out there which are very durable because they're much simpler, no LCD display and few buttons. Greg On Aug 20, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1! -RickG On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Or Desqview. On 8/21/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1! -RickG On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
We upgraded our systems a few years ago. We ran abacus 1.0 for years but it got to where we were having to add more rows of wooden balls and I kept losing my place. So, we opened up the wallet and plunked down 6 bucks (I was able to talk them down from 7) for the recent IBM ps/2 running PC-DOS 3.2 and SuperCalc on dual 5.25 floppies. We have no need for 640k and frankly I wasn't about to spend the additional 75 cents the thrift store salesperson wanted to charge us. Running with 384k seems to do the job for us. I looked at windows 286 but I wasn't sure how long that company would be around so we just saved the cash. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? LOL! Did you have to upgrade from DOS1.1 to 3.2 so the OS will see memory above 640k? When you need multi-tasking, you can do a technology leapfrog from Windows 286 to 3.1! -RickG On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We use a Sextant and a compass to do our site surveys at night. No need for such fancy foo-foo apps! The sextant is all a man will ever need and then some! We then plug the numbers we get into our IBM ps/2 computer running DOS 3.2 and viola! Our exact position give or take a couple of miles. Fellow Luddites, rise up and cast off this oppressive technology! (But leave my internets alone!) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Any one has used the pUniverse App? You just point it to the sky and it puts a realtime image overlay 0f all the stars... How I wish I had a similar app for my towers!!! Site Surveys would be a piece of cake! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Yep, we all have iPhones as well. The GPS/Compass built in makes it easier for them to find towers/repeaters. Also, during Site Surveys, they have the exact GPS coordinates of where the test was done. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone
[WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous times and it still comes on without complaining. So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end user replaceable though. But for the price I paid if the battery stop taking a charge I will just replace it. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:40 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
How accurate it? My Garmin is quite a way off Richard 2009/8/20 e...@wisp-router.com Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous times and it still comes on without complaining. So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end user replaceable though. But for the price I paid if the battery stop taking a charge I will just replace it. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:40 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Looks like a winner so far. And cheap enough as you said. At that price I could do 2 so as to be able to find at least one when I need it. The Earthmate setup was big enough there was no way to lose all that mess. One for me and one for the employee who decides he doesn't want to put it where it belongs. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:05 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Was going to say that I charged it almost a year ago and used it numerous times and it still comes on without complaining. So battery in it last a long time without re charging. They are. Not end user replaceable though. But for the price I paid if the battery stop taking a charge I will just replace it. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:59:40 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Is this the unit? Winplus AC13268-72 Beacon GPS Tracker e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Sams is selling a thing called Beacon GPS tracking unit. It has no maps on it and no big fancy screen to break. It got a rubber edge. It's design for vehicle track on tracking of your hiking trailing. You need to plug it in to a usb port to download the track data. But that is superficial and unnecessary. The unit have a simple green lcd on which you can display current coordinates and height compass directions and satellite reception. I did an initial charge on it almost a year ago and used it a few times. I think the unit ran me about 85. Was looking to use it as a vehicle tracker to see how our service Van was used but it was to cumbersome to use that way IMO and no external antenna ended up getting a different unit with external antenna and gsm system so I can see real time live on a web app interface where the van is and driving speeds and where it's been without accessing the device in the van. This first unit I today just use to get gps coordinates and high info so I don't have to use laptop or a fancy flashy gps unit that costs a lot. It's about the size of a thicker flip phone so can easily be stored in your pant or breast pocket. Ohh you charge by USB cable and I want to say it came with usb sync/charge cable and car cigarette lighter adapter if not the later you probably own a few already or you can pickup a cheap one at any place that sell cellphones, pda's, mp3 players and in truck stops or even in many gas stations if you would end up forgetting it or if you simply just to have such a adapter in each car you and the business uses. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:23:50 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.62/2315 - Release Date: 08/20/09 06:05:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Same here, iPhone 3GS with MotionX GPS app for a few bucks. I love it and its always with me. I use it a lot more than the garmin eTrex that site on a shelf now (hey maybe you could ask me about selling it to you lol) I have not been too pleased with the compass though :) (oh yeah, or the ATT service) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? This might sound off-the-wall, but you could do a lot worse than pick an iPhone. The GPS in it works really very well, compass and all. In terms of ruggedness, one of my staff members dropped his iPhone from a tower 110' up. Stupid, I know, but he was trying to talk to the guy on the ground. Anyway, the phone survived the fall after he put the pieces back together. It does have a small dent. But he didn't even have to bring it back in to Apple tech support. Oh, if anyone was wondering, turns out that battery IS removable ;-). Anyway, we've been so pleased with the iPhone we bought every single staff member an iPhone last year-even the book keeper. Chuck On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 If all is not lost, where is it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
