Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Two quick points,  I have seen something like this due to browser.what 
browser are u usingdid you try a different browser.

Also, 5.2.1 full has been released...try that as well...


Faisal

On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.
 
 Short version:
 
 I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with Wireshark 
 and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra 
 reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had 
 turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable 
 extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting 
 box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It was 
 a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I finally got everything 
 the way I wanted it, though no matter what I do the POE passthrough box 
 remains unchecked even though I checked it and applied the settings many 
 times. It is passing POE so I'm just disregarding the checkbox and hoping 
 it's just a glitch in the UI.
 
 Long version:
 
 I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make sure I 
 could tell the story accurately to UBNT.
 
 (Through the process below I tired various browsers to make sure the problem 
 wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers)
 
 Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which is 
 running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2.
 In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting.
 Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing itself to 
 be in the test mode (and the associated count down to restore settings was 
 not showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back on.
 Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time instead of 
 test.
 Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's 
 secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through the 
 BulletM2 at this point)
 Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the NS5M/BulletM2 combo.
 Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked.
 
 Downgraded to 5.2.
 The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then came 
 back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked.
 Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC and 
 put in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit test, the unit 
 rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field blank.
 
 Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1
 
 Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults.
 Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck.
 Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it again, 
 again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots.
 
 Restored to defaults again.
 Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto adjust and 
 turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of the settings stuck 
 (according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 on the secondary port was 
 up.
 Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All settings 
 stuck without a hitch.
 Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and disabled 
 extra reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it was unchecked but 
 passing through) and those settings stuck. The unit's behavior is as I want 
 it.  I was even able to lock the unit to the AP's MAC address. The only 
 discrepancy is the POE passthrough is unchecked even though it's passing 
 through (as I want it to).
 
 I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds like 
 TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's memory than 
 upgrading the firmware via the web interface.
 
 I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow.
 
 Greg
 
 On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 Nope.  No dice.  Played with it after I took it down.  Did a hard reset 
 then.  PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says.  
 Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into.
 
 Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off.  Maybe I need to show 
 it a picture of my first wife..!
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the 
 second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-26 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yeah, I've seen funny browser stuff too, so I tried all three below.

Browsers: Safari 5.0.2, Firefox 3.6.10, Chrome 6.0.427.63. (all under Mac OS X)

I have Win XP and 7 so I could try IE if you think that would help. I kind of 
doubt it after already trying 3.

I'll try 5.2.1. Thanks!

Greg

On Sep 26, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

 Two quick points,  I have seen something like this due to browser.what 
 browser are u usingdid you try a different browser.
 
 Also, 5.2.1 full has been released...try that as well...
 
 
 Faisal




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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-26 Thread Robert West
Same browser as when  I configured it and I can still turn the secondary ether 
PoE on and off on other Nano5Ms.  

Am running 5.2.1, yeah, even downgraded.  Posts on UBNT forums are building on 
this issue.  After 20 days or so it will burn out.


Here is what I came up with after I took it down.  This is part of my post to 
the forums


. I had an AirGrid set on a 15 foot mast out at the road for a 
customer because of trees. Ran an underground line of double shielded, flooded 
Cat5, direct bury, with ground wire. Everything grounded and working fine. His 
neighbor wanted service so I swapped the grid out with a Nano5M, plugged a Nano 
Loco into the secondary ether pointing to another nano in the neighbors window. 
Ran just fine for almost a month THEN crazy issues. Neighbor lost connection 
but the customer hard wired into the Nano5m was just fine. Thought it might be 
a bad crimp on the jumper, replaced it, it fired up. Was a mess ever since. 
Power on, off, on, off. 

Then I saw the PoE Pass-through checkbox empty. Checked it, applied, box again 
empty. Couldn't get it to stick. Did a truck roll, power to NanoL gone. 

Took the Nano5M down and brought to the shop. Bench tested. No secondary power, 
no check in the box. Diud a hard reset. Still nothing. Downgraded firmware, 
another hard reset. Secondary Port now ON! BUT. Checkbox still empty. 

Checked the box, applied. Check still in the box. Remove check, apply, check 
gone, BUT power still on at the secondary port! I can not turn off the power to 
the secondary power! Upgraded firmware Hard reset. Still on no matter is 
box is checked or not. 

Now for the REST of the story and my guess on this..

The cable run to the pole is 100 feet. I used the 15V UBNT power injector that 
came with the Nano5M. After the install I checked the operation and all was as 
smooth as silk. Quick booting, fast throughput on both units.

When I took the unit down and got it operating I was also using a 15v UBNT 
power injector however my cable length on the bench was only 8 feet. I watched 
the lights on the nano and also watched how long UBNT Discovery utility took to 
pick it up. Long. It looked like it was struggling to connect to the wired lan. 
After it came up I plugged a bullet into the secondary port and power cycled it 
all. Long struggle to connect to the wired lan. Sometimes Discovery would see 
it, sometimes not. 

So.. Pulled out an OLD 3Com 24V 3A power injector and plugged the setup 
into it. Fired up FAST! Fired up every time and would not fail. Still unable to 
turn off the power to the secondary port so I reinstalled the unit at the 
customer site but with the 24V 3A power injector. It's been running almost 24 
hours now and I'm able to talk to everything connected to it remotely and all 
pings are perfect.

My guess.. It was under powered. It may have not had enough power to keep 
the secondary port powered, damaged the switching circuit and is now stuck 
giving power to the secondary port with no way of turning it off. Possible 
constant fluttering of the circuit on and off burned it out.

With it being stuck on, it's good for now. I wouldn't mind not having an option 
to turn off the Poe, it can always be on as far as I'm concerned. Or if nothing 
else, have it default to on in case of a failure of the switching 
circuit..


Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

Two quick points,  I have seen something like this due to browser.what 
browser are u usingdid you try a different browser.

Also, 5.2.1 full has been released...try that as well...


Faisal

On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.
 
 Short version:
 
 I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with Wireshark 
 and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra 
 reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had 
 turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable 
 extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting 
 box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It was 
 a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I finally got everything 
 the way I wanted it, though no matter what I do the POE passthrough box 
 remains unchecked even though I checked it and applied the settings many 
 times. It is passing POE so I'm just disregarding the checkbox and hoping 
 it's just a glitch in the UI.
 
 Long version:
 
 I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make sure I 
 could tell the story accurately to UBNT.
 
 (Through the process below I tired various

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-26 Thread Greg Ihnen
I just upgraded my units to 5.2.1. In the GUI the passthrough checkbox is 
unchecked even though it's passing through. I checked the box, applied, and 
it's still unchecked but passing through.

On the forum someone told me to reset the unit, reflash the firmware, and reset 
it again. I'm going to do that later.

Greg

On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Robert West wrote:

 Same browser as when  I configured it and I can still turn the secondary 
 ether PoE on and off on other Nano5Ms.  
 
 Am running 5.2.1, yeah, even downgraded.  Posts on UBNT forums are building 
 on this issue.  After 20 days or so it will burn out.
 
 
 Here is what I came up with after I took it down.  This is part of my post to 
 the forums
 
 
 . I had an AirGrid set on a 15 foot mast out at the road for 
 a customer because of trees. Ran an underground line of double shielded, 
 flooded Cat5, direct bury, with ground wire. Everything grounded and working 
 fine. His neighbor wanted service so I swapped the grid out with a Nano5M, 
 plugged a Nano Loco into the secondary ether pointing to another nano in the 
 neighbors window. Ran just fine for almost a month THEN crazy issues. 
 Neighbor lost connection but the customer hard wired into the Nano5m was just 
 fine. Thought it might be a bad crimp on the jumper, replaced it, it fired 
 up. Was a mess ever since. Power on, off, on, off. 
 
 Then I saw the PoE Pass-through checkbox empty. Checked it, applied, box 
 again empty. Couldn't get it to stick. Did a truck roll, power to NanoL gone. 
 
 Took the Nano5M down and brought to the shop. Bench tested. No secondary 
 power, no check in the box. Diud a hard reset. Still nothing. Downgraded 
 firmware, another hard reset. Secondary Port now ON! BUT. Checkbox 
 still empty. 
 
 Checked the box, applied. Check still in the box. Remove check, apply, check 
 gone, BUT power still on at the secondary port! I can not turn off the power 
 to the secondary power! Upgraded firmware Hard reset. Still on no matter 
 is box is checked or not. 
 
 Now for the REST of the story and my guess on this..
 
 The cable run to the pole is 100 feet. I used the 15V UBNT power injector 
 that came with the Nano5M. After the install I checked the operation and all 
 was as smooth as silk. Quick booting, fast throughput on both units.
 
 When I took the unit down and got it operating I was also using a 15v UBNT 
 power injector however my cable length on the bench was only 8 feet. I 
 watched the lights on the nano and also watched how long UBNT Discovery 
 utility took to pick it up. Long. It looked like it was struggling to connect 
 to the wired lan. After it came up I plugged a bullet into the secondary port 
 and power cycled it all. Long struggle to connect to the wired lan. Sometimes 
 Discovery would see it, sometimes not. 
 
 So.. Pulled out an OLD 3Com 24V 3A power injector and plugged the 
 setup into it. Fired up FAST! Fired up every time and would not fail. Still 
 unable to turn off the power to the secondary port so I reinstalled the unit 
 at the customer site but with the 24V 3A power injector. It's been running 
 almost 24 hours now and I'm able to talk to everything connected to it 
 remotely and all pings are perfect.
 
 My guess.. It was under powered. It may have not had enough power to keep 
 the secondary port powered, damaged the switching circuit and is now stuck 
 giving power to the secondary port with no way of turning it off. Possible 
 constant fluttering of the circuit on and off burned it out.
 
 With it being stuck on, it's good for now. I wouldn't mind not having an 
 option to turn off the Poe, it can always be on as far as I'm concerned. Or 
 if nothing else, have it default to on in case of a failure of the switching 
 circuit..
 
 
 Bob-
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 Two quick points,  I have seen something like this due to browser.what 
 browser are u usingdid you try a different browser.
 
 Also, 5.2.1 full has been released...try that as well...
 
 
 Faisal
 
 On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.
 
 Short version:
 
 I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with 
 Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra 
 reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had 
 turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable 
 extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting 
 box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It 
 was a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-26 Thread Robert West
Yep.  Right now I can check, uncheck..  All the same.  Still passes
through.  They should default it to pass through and forget about it.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

I just upgraded my units to 5.2.1. In the GUI the passthrough checkbox is
unchecked even though it's passing through. I checked the box, applied, and
it's still unchecked but passing through.

On the forum someone told me to reset the unit, reflash the firmware, and
reset it again. I'm going to do that later.

Greg

On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Robert West wrote:

 Same browser as when  I configured it and I can still turn the secondary
ether PoE on and off on other Nano5Ms.  
 
 Am running 5.2.1, yeah, even downgraded.  Posts on UBNT forums are
building on this issue.  After 20 days or so it will burn out.
 
 
 Here is what I came up with after I took it down.  This is part of my post
to the forums
 
 
 . I had an AirGrid set on a 15 foot mast out at the road
for a customer because of trees. Ran an underground line of double shielded,
flooded Cat5, direct bury, with ground wire. Everything grounded and working
fine. His neighbor wanted service so I swapped the grid out with a Nano5M,
plugged a Nano Loco into the secondary ether pointing to another nano in the
neighbors window. Ran just fine for almost a month THEN crazy issues.
Neighbor lost connection but the customer hard wired into the Nano5m was
just fine. Thought it might be a bad crimp on the jumper, replaced it, it
fired up. Was a mess ever since. Power on, off, on, off. 
 
 Then I saw the PoE Pass-through checkbox empty. Checked it, applied, box
again empty. Couldn't get it to stick. Did a truck roll, power to NanoL
gone. 
 
 Took the Nano5M down and brought to the shop. Bench tested. No secondary
power, no check in the box. Diud a hard reset. Still nothing. Downgraded
firmware, another hard reset. Secondary Port now ON! BUT. Checkbox
still empty. 
 
 Checked the box, applied. Check still in the box. Remove check, apply,
check gone, BUT power still on at the secondary port! I can not turn off the
power to the secondary power! Upgraded firmware Hard reset. Still on no
matter is box is checked or not. 
 
 Now for the REST of the story and my guess on this..
 
 The cable run to the pole is 100 feet. I used the 15V UBNT power injector
that came with the Nano5M. After the install I checked the operation and all
was as smooth as silk. Quick booting, fast throughput on both units.
 
 When I took the unit down and got it operating I was also using a 15v UBNT
power injector however my cable length on the bench was only 8 feet. I
watched the lights on the nano and also watched how long UBNT Discovery
utility took to pick it up. Long. It looked like it was struggling to
connect to the wired lan. After it came up I plugged a bullet into the
secondary port and power cycled it all. Long struggle to connect to the
wired lan. Sometimes Discovery would see it, sometimes not. 
 
 So.. Pulled out an OLD 3Com 24V 3A power injector and plugged the
setup into it. Fired up FAST! Fired up every time and would not fail. Still
unable to turn off the power to the secondary port so I reinstalled the unit
at the customer site but with the 24V 3A power injector. It's been running
almost 24 hours now and I'm able to talk to everything connected to it
remotely and all pings are perfect.
 
 My guess.. It was under powered. It may have not had enough power to
keep the secondary port powered, damaged the switching circuit and is now
stuck giving power to the secondary port with no way of turning it off.
Possible constant fluttering of the circuit on and off burned it out.
 
 With it being stuck on, it's good for now. I wouldn't mind not having an
option to turn off the Poe, it can always be on as far as I'm concerned. Or
if nothing else, have it default to on in case of a failure of the switching
circuit..
 
 
 Bob-
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:30 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 Two quick points,  I have seen something like this due to browser.what
browser are u usingdid you try a different browser.
 
 Also, 5.2.1 full has been released...try that as well...
 
 
 Faisal
 
 On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.
 
 Short version:
 
 I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with
Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra
reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Philip Dorr
input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, 
 fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
 add I was getting some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it,
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



 Bob-











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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Greg Ihnen
But then if the pass through gets unchecked then you're toast since the unit 
will be without power, not just the secondary device it powers.

Greg

On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:

 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
 the second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 
 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid
 
 
 
 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, 
 fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
 add I was getting some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it,
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.
 
 
 
 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!
 
 
 
 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….
 
 
 
 Just so ya knows.
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Stuart Pierce

Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?

-- Original Message --
From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500

input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the 
 two, fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
 add I was getting some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it,
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums………….  It’s an issue.  After 
 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Philip Dorr
Nothing, it will constantly stay on.  Of course you cannot turn off
the second radio.

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

 Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?

 -- Original Message --
 From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500

input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is 
 why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect 
 the two, fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
 add I was getting some “weird† Â lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it,
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums………….  It’s an issue.  After 
 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett

 What if a tractor drives through the tower?

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On 9/25/2010 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:

Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?

-- Original Message --
From: Philip Dorrwirel...@judgementgaming.com
Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500


input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com  wrote:

Eh? Â What ya mean???


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com  wrote:

I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
for sharing!

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:

Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
but had a hot signal out at the road. Â Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Â Ran an
underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
ground wire to his house. Â That was 5 months or so ago. Â At the
beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
service. Â Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
Nano Loco2 at his place. Â Replaced my weird Airgrid



Worked perfectly, everyone happy. Â 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
not working. Â I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. Â I
figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, 
fires up.
All good. Â 2 days later, same issue. Â I reset it all to defaults,
reconfigure, all okay. Â 2 days later, same thing. Â I downgrade
firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
add I was getting some “weird�  lag at the AP that this setup was
feeding off of. Â So I was fighting two battles. Â Then today, I find
that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. Â DUH! Â I check it,
apply, comes back empty. Â I do it again, same issue. Â I go out and I
can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
voltage.



I checked my lag time issue at the AP. Â GONE!



I then checked in the UBNT forums………….  It’s an issue.  After 20 
days
PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Â Replaced it with
another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Glenn Kelley
Mike - i always get a kick out of your banter. 

What if you allow the gremlins after dark to have water? 


On Sep 25, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 What if a tractor drives through the tower?
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 On 9/25/2010 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
 Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Philip Dorrwirel...@judgementgaming.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500
 
 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
 the second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com  
 wrote:
 Eh? Â What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is 
 why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Today I finally figured out an Issue Iâ•˙ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road. Â Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Â Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house. Â That was 5 months or so ago. Â At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service. Â Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place. Â Replaced my weird Airgrid
 
 
 
 Worked perfectly, everyone happy. Â 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working. Â I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. Â I
 figure, bad crimp╜╜.  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect 
 the two, fires up.
 All good. Â 2 days later, same issue. Â I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay. Â 2 days later, same thing. Â I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2. Â Couple of days later, no signal again. Â Iâ•˙ll also
 add I was getting some ╲weird╡  lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of. Â So I was fighting two battles. Â Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. Â DUH! Â I check it,
 apply, comes back empty. Â I do it again, same issue. Â I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give 
 any voltage.
 
 
 
 I checked my lag time issue at the AP. Â GONE!
 
 
 
 I then checked in the UBNT forums╜╜╜╜.  Itâ•˙s an issue.  
 After 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Â Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like Iâ•˙ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude╜╜╜.
 
 
 
 Just so ya knows.
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Stuart Pierce

Yea what if, I guess that sums it up, I'm done for the day go Arkansas  ( 
Cause if the Buckeyes can't win today, something's up ).

It's Beer:30

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:53:42 -0500

  What if a tractor drives through the tower?

-
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http://www.ics-il.com



On 9/25/2010 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
 Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?

 -- Original Message --
 From: Philip Dorrwirel...@judgementgaming.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500

 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
 the second radio

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com  
 wrote:
 Eh? � What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is 
 why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M. � I have a customer who wanted service, � was in � 
 trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road. � Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. � Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house. � That was 5 months or so ago. � At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service. � Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place. � Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy. � 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working. � I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. � I
 figure, bad crimp……. � Take it down, make up a new wire to connect 
 the two, fires up.
 All good. � 2 days later, same issue. � I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay. � 2 days later, same thing. � I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2. � Couple of days later, no signal again. � I’ll 
 also
 add I was getting some “weird” � lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of. � So I was fighting two battles. � Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. � DUH! � I check it,
 apply, comes back empty. � I do it again, same issue. � I go out and 
 I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give 
 any voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP. � GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums…………. � It’s an issue. � 
 After 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. � Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Robert West
Ah!  I'll give that a shot.

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, 
 fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
 add I was getting some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it,
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



 Bob-











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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Greg Ihnen
So you're saying if the secondary port is the one receiving power it will pass 
power to the primary port no matter what the state of the pass through check 
box? That's cool to know.

Greg

On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:

 Nothing, it will constantly stay on.  Of course you cannot turn off
 the second radio.
 
 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:
 
 Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500
 
 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
 the second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 Eh? Â What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is 
 why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 
 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road. Â Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. Â Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house. Â That was 5 months or so ago. Â At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service. Â Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place. Â Replaced my weird Airgrid
 
 
 
 Worked perfectly, everyone happy. Â 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working. Â I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. Â I
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect 
 the two, fires up.
 All good. Â 2 days later, same issue. Â I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay. Â 2 days later, same thing. Â I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
 add I was getting some “weird†  lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of. Â So I was fighting two battles. Â Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. Â DUH! Â I check it,
 apply, comes back empty. Â I do it again, same issue. Â I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give 
 any voltage.
 
 
 
 I checked my lag time issue at the AP. Â GONE!
 
 
 
 I then checked in the UBNT forums………….  It’s an issue.  
 After 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Â Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….
 
 
 
 Just so ya knows.
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread RickG
Not according to Garp!

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Philip Dorr
wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote:

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is
 why.
  On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck
  with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for
  sharing!
 
  On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
  NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees but
 had
  a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot
 sections
  of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an underground line of
 Cat5e,
  double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house.  That
 was 5
  months or so ago.  At the beginning of August, he called me and said his
  neighbor wanted service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up
 a
  Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a
  second Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid
 
 
 
  Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not
  working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I figure,
 bad
  crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up.
  All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
  reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade firmware
 to
  5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also add I was
 getting
  some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of.  So I
 was
  fighting two battles.  Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through
 check
  box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, apply, comes back empty.  I do it
 again,
  same issue.  I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary
 port
  but it will not give any voltage.
 
 
 
  I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!
 
 
 
  I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 days
 PoE
  on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with another
 Nano5M,
  working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver
 solution
  to service this dude……….
 
 
 
  Just so ya knows.
 
 
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Robert West
Nope.  No dice.  Played with it after I took it down.  Did a hard reset 
then.  PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says.  Before 
reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into.

Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off.  Maybe I need to show it 
a picture of my first wife..!

Bob-



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the second 
radio

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've 
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. 
 Thanks for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a 
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees 
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 
 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an 
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with 
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the 
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted 
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and 
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second 
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, 
 neighbor not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the 
 pole.  I figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect 
 the two, fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults, 
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade 
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also 
 add I was getting some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was 
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find 
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, 
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I 
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 
 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with 
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with 
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Robert West
Don't believe it.  I think it depends on the alignment of the planets.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

So you're saying if the secondary port is the one receiving power it will pass 
power to the primary port no matter what the state of the pass through check 
box? That's cool to know.

Greg

On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:

 Nothing, it will constantly stay on.  Of course you cannot turn off 
 the second radio.
 
 On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:
 
 Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500
 
 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power 
 the second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 Eh? Â What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is 
 why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but 
 I've stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets 
 fixed. Thanks for sharing!
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 
 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a 
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  
 trees but had a hot signal out at the road. Â Dug a 4 foot hole, 
 put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of 
 concrete. Â Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and 
 flooded cable with ground wire to his house. Â That was 5 months 
 or so ago. Â At the beginning of August, he called me and said 
 his neighbor wanted service. Â Same trees so I took the AirGrid 
 down, put up a Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary 
 port and shot it at a second Nano Loco2 at his place. Â Replaced 
 my weird Airgrid
 
 
 
 Worked perfectly, everyone happy. Â 2 weeks ago I get a call, 
 neighbor not working. Â I go out, no power light on the Nano at 
 the pole.  I figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new 
 wire to connect the two, fires up.
 All good. Â 2 days later, same issue. Â I reset it all to 
 defaults, reconfigure, all okay. Â 2 days later, same thing. Â I 
 downgrade firmware to 5.2. Â Couple of days later, no signal 
 again.  I’ll also add I was getting some “weird†  lag at 
 the AP that this setup was feeding off of. Â So I was fighting 
 two battles. Â Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check 
 box is empty. Â DUH! Â I check it, apply, comes back empty. Â I 
 do it again, same issue. Â I go out and I can connect my laptop through 
 the secondary port but it will not give any voltage.
 
 
 
 I checked my lag time issue at the AP. Â GONE!
 
 
 
 I then checked in the UBNT forums………….  It’s an issue. 
 Â After 20 days PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. Â 
 Replaced it with another Nano5M, working fine but looks like 
 I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver solution to service this 
 dude……….
 
 
 
 Just so ya knows.
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Robert West
GARP!

 

I see we have a reader here...

 

Oldie but a goodie.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 

Not according to Garp!

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
wrote:

It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is
why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck
 with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for
 sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com

 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I've been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees but
had
 a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot
sections
 of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an underground line of
Cat5e,
 double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house.  That
was 5
 months or so ago.  At the beginning of August, he called me and said his
 neighbor wanted service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a
 Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a
 second Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not
 working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I figure,
bad
 crimp...  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade firmware
to
 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I'll also add I was getting
 some weird  lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of.  So I was
 fighting two battles.  Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check
 box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, apply, comes back empty.  I do it again,
 same issue.  I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary
port
 but it will not give any voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It's an issue.  After 20 days PoE
 on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with another
Nano5M,
 working fine but looks like I'll be coming up with another MacGyver
solution
 to service this dude



 Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Greg Ihnen
I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.

Short version:

I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with Wireshark 
and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra reporting) 
traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had turned that off. I 
browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable extra reporting was 
checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting box and apply the 
settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It was a long process to 
get the settings how I wanted but I finally got everything the way I wanted it, 
though no matter what I do the POE passthrough box remains unchecked even 
though I checked it and applied the settings many times. It is passing POE so 
I'm just disregarding the checkbox and hoping it's just a glitch in the UI.

Long version:

I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make sure I could 
tell the story accurately to UBNT.

(Through the process below I tired various browsers to make sure the problem 
wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers)

Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which is 
running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2.
In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting.
Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing itself to be 
in the test mode (and the associated count down to restore settings was not 
showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back on.
Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time instead of 
test.
Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's 
secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through the 
BulletM2 at this point)
Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the NS5M/BulletM2 combo.
Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked.

Downgraded to 5.2.
The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then came 
back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked.
Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC and put 
in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit test, the unit 
rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field blank.

Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1

Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults.
Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck.
Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it again, 
again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots.

Restored to defaults again.
Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto adjust and 
turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of the settings stuck 
(according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 on the secondary port was up.
Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All settings stuck 
without a hitch.
Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and disabled extra 
reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it was unchecked but passing 
through) and those settings stuck. The unit's behavior is as I want it.  I was 
even able to lock the unit to the AP's MAC address. The only discrepancy is the 
POE passthrough is unchecked even though it's passing through (as I want it to).

I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds like 
TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's memory than 
upgrading the firmware via the web interface.

I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow.

Greg

On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote:

 Nope.  No dice.  Played with it after I took it down.  Did a hard reset 
 then.  PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says.  Before 
 reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into.
 
 Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off.  Maybe I need to show 
 it a picture of my first wife..!
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power the 
 second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've 
 stuck with two

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Robert West
Yep.  Secondary port..  Bullshit.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.

Short version:

I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with
Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra
reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had
turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable
extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting
box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It
was a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I finally got
everything the way I wanted it, though no matter what I do the POE
passthrough box remains unchecked even though I checked it and applied the
settings many times. It is passing POE so I'm just disregarding the checkbox
and hoping it's just a glitch in the UI.

Long version:

I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make sure I
could tell the story accurately to UBNT.

(Through the process below I tired various browsers to make sure the problem
wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers)

Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which is
running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2.
In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting.
Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing itself to
be in the test mode (and the associated count down to restore settings was
not showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back on.
Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time instead of
test.
Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's
secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through the
BulletM2 at this point) Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the NS5M/BulletM2
combo.
Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked.

Downgraded to 5.2.
The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then came
back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked.
Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC and
put in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit test, the unit
rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field blank.

Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1

Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults.
Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck.
Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it again,
again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots.

Restored to defaults again.
Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto adjust and
turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of the settings stuck
(according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 on the secondary port was
up.
Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All settings
stuck without a hitch.
Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and disabled
extra reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it was unchecked but
passing through) and those settings stuck. The unit's behavior is as I want
it.  I was even able to lock the unit to the AP's MAC address. The only
discrepancy is the POE passthrough is unchecked even though it's passing
through (as I want it to).

I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds like
TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's memory than
upgrading the firmware via the web interface.

I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow.

Greg

On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote:

 Nope.  No dice.  Played with it after I took it down.  Did a hard reset
then.  PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says.
Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into.
 
 Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off.  Maybe I need to
show it a picture of my first wife..!
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power 
 the second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 It works perfectly fine if you power through

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Greg Ihnen
Cool idea though

On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Robert West wrote:

 Yep.  Secondary port..  Bullshit.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.
 
 Short version:
 
 I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with
 Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra
 reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had
 turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure enough enable
 extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable extra reporting
 box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. It
 was a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I finally got
 everything the way I wanted it, though no matter what I do the POE
 passthrough box remains unchecked even though I checked it and applied the
 settings many times. It is passing POE so I'm just disregarding the checkbox
 and hoping it's just a glitch in the UI.
 
 Long version:
 
 I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make sure I
 could tell the story accurately to UBNT.
 
 (Through the process below I tired various browsers to make sure the problem
 wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers)
 
 Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which is
 running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2.
 In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting.
 Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing itself to
 be in the test mode (and the associated count down to restore settings was
 not showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back on.
 Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time instead of
 test.
 Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's
 secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through the
 BulletM2 at this point) Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the NS5M/BulletM2
 combo.
 Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked.
 
 Downgraded to 5.2.
 The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then came
 back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked.
 Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC and
 put in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit test, the unit
 rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field blank.
 
 Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1
 
 Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults.
 Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck.
 Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it again,
 again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots.
 
 Restored to defaults again.
 Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto adjust and
 turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of the settings stuck
 (according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 on the secondary port was
 up.
 Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All settings
 stuck without a hitch.
 Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and disabled
 extra reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it was unchecked but
 passing through) and those settings stuck. The unit's behavior is as I want
 it.  I was even able to lock the unit to the AP's MAC address. The only
 discrepancy is the POE passthrough is unchecked even though it's passing
 through (as I want it to).
 
 I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds like
 TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's memory than
 upgrading the firmware via the web interface.
 
 I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow.
 
 Greg
 
 On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 Nope.  No dice.  Played with it after I took it down.  Did a hard reset
 then.  PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says.
 Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into.
 
 Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off.  Maybe I need to
 show it a picture of my first wife..!
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power 
 the second radio
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September

Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-25 Thread Robert West
Yep.  I like it, don't work.  Well...  For just a bit.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

Cool idea though

On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Robert West wrote:

 Yep.  Secondary port..  Bullshit.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
 
 I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.
 
 Short version:
 
 I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with 
 Wireshark and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it 
 extra
 reporting) traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I 
 had turned that off. I browsed into the unit in question and sure 
 enough enable extra reporting was checked again! I unchecked the enable
extra reporting
 box and apply the settings many times and it kept coming back checked. 
 It was a long process to get the settings how I wanted but I finally 
 got everything the way I wanted it, though no matter what I do the 
 POE passthrough box remains unchecked even though I checked it and 
 applied the settings many times. It is passing POE so I'm just 
 disregarding the checkbox and hoping it's just a glitch in the UI.
 
 Long version:
 
 I took notes through this process for my own reference and to make 
 sure I could tell the story accurately to UBNT.
 
 (Through the process below I tired various browsers to make sure the 
 problem wasn't due to some fluke in one of the browsers)
 
 Using Wireshark I noticed extended reporting coming from an NS5M which 
 is running Station WDS (one end of a back haul), firmware is 5.2.1 RC2.
 In NS5M web interface I turned off extended reporting.
 Hit change then test but after unit rebooted it wasn't showing 
 itself to be in the test mode (and the associated count down to 
 restore settings was not showing) and extended reporting checkbox was back
on.
 Unchecked extended reporting (again) and clicked apply this time 
 instead of test.
 Unit went off line and the BulletM2 (my point of access) on the NS5M's 
 secondary port never came back up. (I was accessing the NS5M through 
 the
 BulletM2 at this point) Had to power cycle NS5M to revive the 
 NS5M/BulletM2 combo.
 Came back up with extra reporting checkbox checked.
 
 Downgraded to 5.2.
 The combo came back up for a minute, then dropped off line again, then 
 came back up and stayed up. Extra reporting checkbox still checked.
 Decided to try changing another setting. I picked the lock to AP MAC 
 and put in the MAC address of the other end of the back haul. Hit 
 test, the unit rebooted and came back with the log to AP MAC field
blank.
 
 Downgraded to 5.0.1, then upgraded back up to 5.2.1
 
 Connected via ethernet and reset to defaults.
 Start programming the unit. Manually set ack timing. Setting stuck.
 Turned on pass through, after reboot checkbox was unchecked. Tried it 
 again, again the box is unchecked after the unit reboots.
 
 Restored to defaults again.
 Tried disabling extra reporting and turning off ack timeout auto 
 adjust and turning on POE passthrough all at the same time. None of 
 the settings stuck (according to the web interface but the Bullet M2 
 on the secondary port was up.
 Set the necessary changes on the wireless and network tabs. All 
 settings stuck without a hitch.
 Returned to Advanced and set POE ack timeout auto adjust off and 
 disabled extra reporting off (without changing POE passthrough - it 
 was unchecked but passing through) and those settings stuck. The 
 unit's behavior is as I want it.  I was even able to lock the unit to 
 the AP's MAC address. The only discrepancy is the POE passthrough is 
 unchecked even though it's passing through (as I want it to).
 
 I'm thinking about TFTP'ing in the 5.2.1 RC2 firmware since it sounds 
 like TFTP'ing the firmware in rewrites/partitions more of the unit's 
 memory than upgrading the firmware via the web interface.
 
 I'll post this to the UBNT forum tomorrow.
 
 Greg
 
 On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
 Nope.  No dice.  Played with it after I took it down.  Did a hard 
 reset
 then.  PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says.
 Before reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into.
 
 Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off.  Maybe I need 
 to
 show it a picture of my first wife..!
 
 Bob-
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE

[WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-24 Thread Robert West
Today I finally figured out an Issue I've been having with a NanoStation5M.
I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees but had a hot signal
out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid
conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double
shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months
or so ago.  At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor
wanted service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano
Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid 

 

Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not
working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I figure, bad
crimp...  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up.
All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade firmware to
5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I'll also add I was getting
some weird  lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of.  So I was
fighting two battles.  Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check
box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, apply, comes back empty.  I do it again,
same issue.  I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port
but it will not give any voltage.

 

I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!

 

I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It's an issue.  After 20 days PoE on
the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with another Nano5M,
working fine but looks like I'll be coming up with another MacGyver solution
to service this dude

 

Just so ya knows.

 

Bob-

 

 

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-24 Thread RickG
I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck
with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for
sharing!

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees but had
 a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections
 of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an underground line of Cat5e,
 double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house.  That was 5
 months or so ago.  At the beginning of August, he called me and said his
 neighbor wanted service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a
 Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a
 second Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not
 working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I figure, bad
 crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade firmware to
 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also add I was getting
 some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of.  So I was
 fighting two battles.  Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check
 box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, apply, comes back empty.  I do it again,
 same issue.  I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port
 but it will not give any voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 days PoE
 on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with another Nano5M,
 working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver solution
 to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



 Bob-












 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-24 Thread Philip Dorr
It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've stuck
 with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks for
 sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees but had
 a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections
 of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an underground line of Cat5e,
 double shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house.  That was 5
 months or so ago.  At the beginning of August, he called me and said his
 neighbor wanted service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a
 Nano5M and plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a
 second Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not
 working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I figure, bad
 crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade firmware to
 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also add I was getting
 some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of.  So I was
 fighting two battles.  Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check
 box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, apply, comes back empty.  I do it again,
 same issue.  I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port
 but it will not give any voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 days PoE
 on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with another Nano5M,
 working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with another MacGyver solution
 to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



 Bob-











 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-24 Thread Robert West
Been there.  But mine finally died and the hard reset is now no more.

 

Sucks.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 

I have a NS5M (back haul) which is passing through power and data to a
BulletM2 as AP and I recently had some strangeness - I changed settings in
the NS5M and power to the BulletM2 would start cycling. The BulletM2 is my
access to the NS5M so I couldn't get in that way. I also couldn't browse in
via ethernet. This happened more than once. One time I think cycling the
power fixed it. The last time it happened I couldn't browse into the NS5M so
I had to do a hard reset and reprogram it.

 

Greg

 

On Sep 24, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Robert West wrote:





Today I finally figured out an Issue I've been having with a NanoStation5M.
I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees but had a hot signal
out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 foot sections of rigid
conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an underground line of Cat5e, double
shielded and flooded cable with ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months
or so ago.  At the beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor
wanted service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second Nano
Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid

 

Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor not
working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I figure, bad
crimp...  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, fires up.
All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade firmware to
5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I'll also add I was getting
some weird  lag at the AP that this setup was feeding off of.  So I was
fighting two battles.  Then today, I find that the PoE Pass Through check
box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, apply, comes back empty.  I do it again,
same issue.  I go out and I can connect my laptop through the secondary port
but it will not give any voltage.

 

I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!

 

I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It's an issue.  After 20 days PoE on
the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with another Nano5M,
working fine but looks like I'll be coming up with another MacGyver solution
to service this dude

 

Just so ya knows.

 

Bob-

 

 

 

 





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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

2010-09-24 Thread Robert West
Eh?  What ya mean???


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've 
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks 
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West 
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a 
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees 
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10 
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an 
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with 
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the 
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted 
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and 
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second 
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor 
 not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I 
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the two, 
 fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults, 
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade 
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also 
 add I was getting some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was 
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find 
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it, 
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I 
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums.  It’s an issue.  After 20 days 
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with 
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with 
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



 Bob-











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