[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
Taking a stab in the dark, I'd guess that all you did was change the content type meta to it. Well...that's not the way to do it. It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the article you reference: Oldie but goldie on the subject: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html So does anyone have a link to an article which can tell me how to properly serve up application/xhtml+xml using PHP? Thanks! Alan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 20:28, Alan Milnes wrote: So does anyone have a link to an article which can tell me how to properly serve up application/xhtml+xml using PHP? Jeroen Visser shared http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ as a link before... that tells you how. The datestamp on the message was Thu, 11 Nov 2004 01:48:36 +0100 if you want to read the original. Joshua Street base10solutions Website: http://www.base10solutions.com/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax: (02) 8572-6021 Mobile: 0425 808 469 E-mails and any attachments sent from base10solutions are to be regarded as confidential. Please do not distribute or publish any of the contents of this e-mail without the senders consent. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to the e-mail, and then delete the message without making copies or using it in any way. Although base10solutions takes precautions to ensure that e-mail sent from our accounts are free of viruses, we encourage recipients to undertake their own virus scan on each e-mail before opening, as base10solutions accepts no responsibility for loss or damage caused by the contents of this e-mail. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
From: Alan Milnes It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the article you reference: Oldie but goldie on the subject: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html Aeh...where exactly? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the
article you reference:
Oldie but goldie on the subject:
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html
Aeh...where exactly?
It's in the section Accommodating legacy browsers and the PHP code
is:-
?php
if ( stristr($_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT],application/xhtml+xml) ) {
header(Content-type: application/xhtml+xml);
}
else {
header(Content-type: text/html);
}
?
I've been happily using this believing I am serving up XHTML and now,
thanks to your Tools - Page Info tip I find I am not!!
Alan
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Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
Alan Milnes wrote: So does anyone have a link to an article which can tell me how to properly serve up application/xhtml+xml using PHP? Jeroen Visser shared http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ as a link before... that tells you how. The datestamp on the message was Thu, 11 Nov 2004 01:48:36 +0100 if you want to read the original. Thanks - unfortunately it seems to have some errors - no content type is sent and Firefox seems to have problems with it as well. Why is the content-type not sent? What errors or warnings does PHP display? What content-type _is_ sent? What problems does Firefox have? Some possible reasons for this script not to work: - headers are already sent out by PHP; - one ore more conditions are too narrow or wide (especially if regular expressions are used, as in the above example); - your application conflicts with the output buffering in the script. The script on the above URL is not something to just cutpaste into an exisiting PHP application. I guess it would need some tuning and work to integrate it into an exisiting site. For example, this script also buffers all PHP output to transform it into HTML4.01 for IE and other non-XHTML-savvy user agents. For most sites, you could strip that part and serve XHTML1.0 corresponding with the HTML4.01 compatibility guidelines. In that case, you only need to switch the content-type header and need not tweak the actual HTML document. Jeroen -- vizi fotografie grafisch ontwerp - http://www.vizi.nl/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
Alan Milnes wrote: Why is the content-type not sent? What errors or warnings does PHP display? What content-type _is_ sent? What problems does Firefox have? Some possible reasons for this script not to work: - headers are already sent out by PHP; - one ore more conditions are too narrow or wide (especially if regular expressions are used, as in the above example); - your application conflicts with the output buffering in the script. Thanks for your feedback. I put it into a test site to try it out - I've actually tried a lot of these scripts but not gotten any of them to work satisfactorily yet! My pleasure! I know it's sometimes frustrating when a script doesn't work the way you would dexpect it to, but also that it is very satisfying when you get it to work and see the results. :-) I have now gone back and spotted a mistake that I made and it now seems to be working fine! That's good news! For some additional info: I usually perform three tests to make sure these content-type things work properly: - Firefox infopanel should show 'application/xhtml+xml'; - IE/Win shouldn't pop a 'save as' dialog but show the site (the dialog is the sign you're serving application/xhtml+xml to IE); - the following testpage of a friend of mine shows 'text/html': [http://sandbox.bednarz.nl/http/get.html?host=www.google.comuri=/] (Just to be concise: fill in the host and uri of the page to check instead of the 'www.google.com' and '/'.) Good luck, Jeroen -- vizi fotografie grafisch ontwerp - http://www.vizi.nl/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Problem with PNG background in Safari
Hi, everyone I've used a true color PNG as a repeating background image of the centered container: http://www.theschool.ru/test/index.htm I've tested it in various browsers on PC, Netscape 6 and Safari on Mac. The background looks fine in all browsers, but for some reason it looks striped in Safari. Other true color PNGs seem to be ok. I wonder if the problem lies in Safari's PNG support or it's something else. Another problem is the unreadable (tiny) footer text in Netscape 6 on Mac (the font-size is set to xx-small, Verdana). Why would Netscape render xx-small text unreadable? Vova ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Screenshots wanted - can you help?
Hi peoples I'm desperate for screenshots or error-reports frombrowsers other thanExplorer 6, 5.5, 5, 4, OperaandMozilla.. The site: http://www.korsbjerggaard.dk/ny/ Do you haveExplorer 5 for MAC, AOL, Konqueror, Safari, or some other browser(maybe a really oldversion)? Can you help? I hope.. - Morten Ohm Thalund
RE: [WSG] Screenshots wanted - can you help?
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[WSG] Problems with internet explorer 5.x
Hi guys, I'm developing my 1st website using standards as a volunteer to a Community Center but I'm having problems with Internet Explorer 5.x I tested in Firefox, Opera and Explorer 6 and works fine. However, when I'm using Explorer 5.x it doesn't looks good. (Menu on the left side) If you take a look at http://www.centrobrasilangola.org/new you'll see it. The css is located at http://www.centrobrasilangola.org/new/style.css Thanks in advance. Gean ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Screenshots wanted - can you help?
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Re: [WSG] Problem with PNG background in Safari
I just tried your site in my Mac Safari version 1.2.3 - (latest) and do NOT get any stripe patterns. Check your version. Will inline: SigThkLong200.jpg William H. Jensen, Jr. 67 Leninski Prospect Apartment #174, 5th Floor Moscow, Russia, 117296 Tel: (7)(095) 137-6546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] US address for mail forwarding to Russia is: William H. Jensen c/o IPS, MB 951 Suite 572 666 Fifth Ave. New York, NY, 10103 On Nov 11, 2004, at 4:57 PM, Vova wrote: Hi, everyone I've used a true color PNG as a repeating background image of the centered container: http://www.theschool.ru/test/index.htm I've tested it in various browsers on PC, Netscape 6 and Safari on Mac. The background looks fine in all browsers, but for some reason it looks striped in Safari. Other true color PNGs seem to be ok. I wonder if the problem lies in Safari's PNG support or it's something else. Another problem is the unreadable (tiny) footer text in Netscape 6 on Mac (the font-size is set to xx-small, Verdana). Why would Netscape render xx-small text unreadable? Vova ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Problems with internet explorer 5.x
Works fine on a MAC with IE-5.2.3 Will inline: SigThkLong200.jpg William H. Jensen, Jr. 67 Leninski Prospect Apartment #174, 5th Floor Moscow, Russia, 117296 Tel: (7)(095) 137-6546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] US address for mail forwarding to Russia is: William H. Jensen c/o IPS, MB 951 Suite 572 666 Fifth Ave. New York, NY, 10103 On Nov 11, 2004, at 6:48 PM, Gean Oliveira wrote: Hi guys, I'm developing my 1st website using standards as a volunteer to a Community Center but I'm having problems with Internet Explorer 5.x I tested in Firefox, Opera and Explorer 6 and works fine. However, when I'm using Explorer 5.x it doesn't looks good. (Menu on the left side) If you take a look at http://www.centrobrasilangola.org/new you'll see it. The css is located at http://www.centrobrasilangola.org/new/style.css Thanks in advance. Gean ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
Thanks to everyone for all the help, suggestions and links. I've amended the code from http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ to send IE XHTML 1.0 and if anyone wants to borrow it then it can be found at:- http://www.college.gameplan.org.uk/wsg/mimetype.txt Alan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Screenshots wanted - can you help?
Morten Ohm Thalund wrote: I'm desperate for screenshots or error-reports from browsers other than Explorer 6, 5.5, 5, 4, Opera and Mozilla.. The site: http://www.korsbjerggaard.dk/ny/ Do you have Explorer 5 for MAC, AOL, Konqueror, Safari, or some other browser (maybe a really old version)? Screenshot would be pointless. Konqueror 3.1 looks identical to Mozilla, though I can't be sure since the text is subatomic. -- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof... U.S. Constitution, Amendment 1 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME
Of course, you can still get the original version of the script from here: http://keystonewebsites.com/articles/mime_type.php Simon Jessey -- mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://jessey.net/blog/ work: http://keystonewebsites.com/ - Original Message - From: Alan Milnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME Thanks to everyone for all the help, suggestions and links. I've amended the code from http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ to send IE XHTML 1.0 and if anyone wants to borrow it then it can be found at:- http://www.college.gameplan.org.uk/wsg/mimetype.txt ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Lakshmi Satyanarayana/ESS/NSW_AG is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 12/11/2004 and will not return until 05/01/2005. I will respond to your message when I return. For Infolink, Lawlink or any other website Queries/Support please contact Megan O' Brien or Jane Floyd by Phone or Email. Alternatively you can contact Web Services by mailing at - [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this communication. If you have received this message in error please delete the email and notify the sender. Web Site http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
HMMMM! RE: [WSG] Lakshmi Satyanarayana/ESS/NSW_AG is out of the office.
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[WSG] Border Background Image
Hi, While browsing the w3.org border properties section, I began to wonder can borders have background images? C ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Border Background Image
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Re: [WSG] Border Background Image
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:54:15AM -0800, Chris Kennon wrote: Hi, While browsing the w3.org border properties section, I began to wonder can borders have background images? Not yet... come css3, it should be possible... http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-border/#the-border-image C ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Christian Sonne Stud. scient. math-phys at University of Copenhagen -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GM/S/CS/O d? s: a---? C++ UL++$ P+ L++ E--- W++ N o@ K? w !O M-- V? PS++(+) PE@ Y-- PGP-@ t+ 5? X++ R@ tv++ b+(++) DI+++ D G@ e+ h! r-(--) y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- http://geeksbynature.dk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Footer Solution
Hi, Have I arrived at the semantically correct solution for placing the footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the core CSS have semantic credence. http://working.ckimedia.com/index.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0
Greetings. Yesterday, I installed the new release of Firefox 1.0. My site (http://doegenomestolife.org ), which had formerly displayed fine in Mozilla 1.7, IE 5/6, and Firefox 0.8-1.0PR (Windows), suddenly had a problem. The blue curve in the upper right corner of the page dropped below the right-hand column (blue navigation/feature bar). The same thing has happened consistently on Safari under OS X 10.3. According to this bug report (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266402 ), the new version's CSS rendering is closer to the spec then the old pre-release version. This duplicate bug report also lists some fixes at the bottom (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267536 ) that include using overflow: hidden; position: absolute; among others. I know the page structure isn't ideal. We're still learning. This is the third site we've done in CSS. (Yes, we've run the page through the XHTML and CSS validators and corrected the things we can.) I've had any luck figuring this out. Two of us have read bug reports, portions of the CSS spec, and haven't come up with anything. Any suggestions would be greatly, incredibly apprciated. Thanks. Kim Nylander ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: HMMMM! RE: [WSG] Lakshmi Satyanarayana/ESS/NSW_AG is out of the office.
Obviously, you don't need to reply to these on list. We see them too and deal with them. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Hutchinson Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: H! RE: [WSG] Lakshmi Satyanarayana/ESS/NSW_AG is out of the office. Oh joy, an out of office reply to every post all the way until January! sam ___ CREATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR WEB, PRINT MEDIA http://www.sammyco.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 05:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Lakshmi Satyanarayana/ESS/NSW_AG is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 12/11/2004 and will not return until 05/01/2005. I will respond to your message when I return. For Infolink, Lawlink or any other website Queries/Support please contact Megan O' Brien or Jane Floyd by Phone or Email. Alternatively you can contact Web Services by mailing at - [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this communication. If you have received this message in error please delete the email and notify the sender. Web Site http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Footer Solution
Chris Kennon wrote: Have I arrived at the semantically correct solution for placing the footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the core CSS have semantic credence. I'm not sure that I quite understand your questions, Chris I can't see how semantics have a place in the positioning of any element. The term 'semantics' when bandied about in standards-based web design (as it often is) refers to using markup tags for the purpose for which they were intended, ie using h1 tags instead of simply making bold a particular bit of text and making it bigger Sorry, if I've missed the point and I'm teaching you how to suck eggs (what does that expression mean, anyway?) On the other hand, I think that is an excellent solution for placing a footer. I use it all the time (probably why I think it is excellent, no?) and it works beautifully Again, when it comes to the 'semantic credence' of your CSS, I'm not sure that CSS can be said to have semantics. Except possibly in terms of the IDs you have used. Certainly I attempt to steer clear of using IDs such as 'column1' and 'column2'. I prefer to describe the purpose of that block of content, ie 'maincontent' and 'subcontent'. This helps if I decide to move the content around later This doesn't hold any real semantics, but I find it neater and more in fitting with the concept of semantic code as I understand it Cheers, Lachlan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0
Hi,
I had exactly the saem problem with my site this morning, and it all comes
down to FF's now correct handling of the 'clear' property.
You have this in your CSS:
img.curve {
float: right;
clear: right; -- This rule is pushing the curve down below
the floated right-hand column, as it is supposed to. Firefox never used to
do this.
margin: 0 0 0 1em;
padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
}
Another thing I noticed is that you define this class as img.curve, tying it
in to images exclusively, but in your markup you use it on a div which is
not technically good practice.
Hope this helps. :)
Iain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kim Nylander
Sent: 11 November 2004 20:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0
Greetings.
Yesterday, I installed the new release of Firefox 1.0. My site
(http://doegenomestolife.org ), which had formerly displayed fine in Mozilla
1.7, IE 5/6, and Firefox 0.8-1.0PR (Windows), suddenly had a problem. The
blue curve in the upper right corner of the page dropped below the
right-hand column (blue navigation/feature bar). The same thing has happened
consistently on Safari under OS X 10.3.
According to this bug report
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266402 ), the new version's
CSS rendering is closer to the spec then the old pre-release version. This
duplicate bug report also lists some fixes at the bottom
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267536 ) that include using
overflow: hidden; position: absolute; among others.
I know the page structure isn't ideal. We're still learning. This is the
third site we've done in CSS. (Yes, we've run the page through the XHTML and
CSS validators and corrected the things we can.)
I've had any luck figuring this out. Two of us have read bug reports,
portions of the CSS spec, and haven't come up with anything. Any suggestions
would be greatly, incredibly apprciated.
Thanks.
Kim Nylander
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Re: [WSG] Footer Solution
Hi Chris, I would probably try to find more semantically meaningful names for column1, column2 because the names as they are describe the visual presentation rather than the content or structure. An example may be content-region1 or feature1 - not great, but better [especially if you decide to rearrange the columns or make them rows later :) ] Perhaps something like main-content vs. sidebar would be suitable. As your template contains lorem ipsum text for columns of equal width, it's hard to tell if this makes sense for your site, my advice would be to just find names that describe the content better in the context of your site. Good luck, Iva. www.livestoryboard.com Chris Kennon wrote: Hi, Have I arrived at the semantically correct solution for placing the footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the core CSS have semantic credence. http://working.ckimedia.com/index.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** begin:vcard fn:Iva Koberg n:Koberg;Iva org:liveSTORYBOARD Inc. adr:#5;;2 Clarence Place ;San Francisco;CA;94107;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:415.615.9079 tel;fax:415.615.9036 tel;cell:415.823.5746 note:Keep your site fresh with ease and confidence! x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.livestoryboard.com version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [WSG] Footer Solution
Hi, You understood the question. I was attempting to ask is the placement code as efficient as it could be, before moving on to typography. TOn Thursday, November 11, 2004, at 02:20 PM, Lachlan Hardy wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: Have I arrived at the semantically correct solution for placing the footer. Also before beginning the typographic positioning , does the core CSS have semantic credence. I'm not sure that I quite understand your questions, Chris I can't see how semantics have a place in the positioning of any element. The term 'semantics' when bandied about in standards-based web design (as it often is) refers to using markup tags for the purpose for which they were intended, ie using h1 tags instead of simply making bold a particular bit of text and making it bigger Sorry, if I've missed the point and I'm teaching you how to suck eggs (what does that expression mean, anyway?) On the other hand, I think that is an excellent solution for placing a footer. I use it all the time (probably why I think it is excellent, no?) and it works beautifully Again, when it comes to the 'semantic credence' of your CSS, I'm not sure that CSS can be said to have semantics. Except possibly in terms of the IDs you have used. Certainly I attempt to steer clear of using IDs such as 'column1' and 'column2'. I prefer to describe the purpose of that block of content, ie 'maincontent' and 'subcontent'. This helps if I decide to move the content around later This doesn't hold any real semantics, but I find it neater and more in fitting with the concept of semantic code as I understand it Cheers, Lachlan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Imagination is more important than knowledge. -Albert Einstein Chris Kennon Principal ckimedia (www.ckimedia.com) ph: (619)429-3258 fax: (619)429-3258 e-mail: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Vertical Alignment of Relatively Sized Text
Hello, I have a small (some may say petty) problem with the vertical alignment of relatively sized text. My query relates to the following; Markup: http://www.paulfarrell.com.au/dev/index.php CSS:http://www.paulfarrell.com.au/dev/mainstyle.css I have a series of floats in a header. In particular I have a string of text on the right marking the spot for a date script output. I would like to know if anyone knows a way I can maintain an alignment where the bottom of the date string is aligned to the bottom of the text in the logo as a user increases/decreases font size. At the moment I have it set up so the header expands downwards as the text expands, and would be happy with this if I can't find a solution. I thought I would throw it up in this list in the off chance someone has a simple solution. Regards Paul Farrell ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
Thought this might be a worthwhile link for WSG members. Please send flames off list ;) Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/2100-1032_3-5448719.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re[2]: [WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0
Hello Iain, Thursday, November 11, 2004, 5:23:55 PM, you wrote: Thank you for the suggestions! I tried removing the clear: right; rule, and ended up with the images lined up under the level of the news box on the left through the center column. I've been through the Firefox forums and haven't found any solutions that have worked. If Firefox is implementing the spec closely, then I'm assuming the problem exists in my CSS. But *where*? IG Another thing I noticed is that you define this class as img.curve, IG tying it in to images exclusively, but in your markup you use it on a IG div which is not technically good practice. Thank you for the heads up! It's really appreciated. My coworkers and I have learned CSS by using it, so now we're wanting to get into good coding practices, structuring pages and CSS more intuitively, etc. Thank you. Kim Nylander -- Best regards, Docmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Vertical Alignment of Relatively Sized Text
Paul Farrell wrote: I have a series of floats in a header. In particular I have a string of text on the right marking the spot for a date script output. I would like to know if anyone knows a way I can maintain an alignment where the bottom of the date string is aligned to the bottom of the text in the logo as a user increases/decreases font size. Hi Paul, You might want to check out Doug Bowman's article on the positioning solution for the menu at http://www.adaptivepath.com: http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/absolute/ In this article is the answer to your question. While it might not be an exact 'baseline' match, I think you can get very close if you tinker with the technique Doug describes. (For something totally different: I would advice against using [h3] for your date script output. Use a [span] or [div] instead, maybe a [p], but reserve [h3] for a real heading at the third level of a document structure.) Good luck, Jeroen -- vizi fotografie grafisch ontwerp - http://www.vizi.nl/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
They better rethink thatit is a large threat...isn't Firefox like 40% of the people now? --- Chris Blown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought this might be a worthwhile link for WSG members. Please send flames off list ;) Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/2100-1032_3-5448719.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** = Anthony Timberlake Please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
According to http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/September/browser.php.
Mozilla is still way down at 2% as of September. We'll see about
October shortly...
Chris
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:23:02 -0800 (PST), Anthony Timberlake
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They better rethink thatit is a large
threat...isn't Firefox like 40% of the people now?
--- Chris Blown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thought this might be a worthwhile link for WSG
members.
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Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
17.7% (sorry for the 40%)... That's still pretty good for a company that big! Source: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp --- Chris Gandolfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/September/browser.php. Mozilla is still way down at 2% as of September. We'll see about October shortly... Chris = Anthony Timberlake Please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac
On 12 Nov 2004, at 8:02 am, Natalie Buxton wrote: For some reason, http://nataliebuxton.com/devel/wsg.php doesn't render properly. On Safari Mac, Firefox/IE Windows the floats are fine. But on IE the three floated panels sit under each other. Now, I thought it might be a math problem, but even if I reduce each float to only 100px wide it still happens. http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/float2misc/#fm002 hint - the problem is with the #panel-wrap div Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0
Hi, I'm sorry, I didn't really explain myself clearly. What I meant was in the CSS for this page, the selector 'img.curve' defines that the following rules are only intended to be applied to any images with that class. However, in the markup the class is used in a div tag, not an img one. It would have been more accurate to use 'div.curve' - or, if they wanted to use the class rules for any elements just '.curve' on its own. Hope this explains what I meant a little better. I certainly didn't mean to suggest an element couldn't have a class without a corresponding CSS rule, only that a CSS-defined class should tie-in to its subsequent use in the markup. :) Iain -- Iain Gardiner http://www.firelightning.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] Sent: 11 November 2004 23:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0 Iain Gardiner wrote: Another thing I noticed is that you define this class as img.curve, tying it in to images exclusively, but in your markup you use it on a div which is not technically good practice. Hi Iain, Could you explain this? I don't (or thus far didn't) think it's 'technically not good practice' to having a class assigned to an element, while not having a matching CSS rule. I've used this technique to get Javascripts to identify certain hyperlinks, for instance, without the need to apply any special styling to these hyperlinks. In this case it might be a forgotten class set on a div that should've been removed, but it would do no harm whatsoever, as there simply isn't any CSS rule that applies. With curious regards, Jeroen -- vizi fotografie grafisch ontwerp - http://www.vizi.nl/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac
Thursday, November 11, 2004, 11:02:11 PM, Natalie wrote: I'm currently wrestling with that most annoying of bugbears, IE 5.2.3 on the Mac. I put that into the same category as NN4 - a browser that's only used by people who like broken web pages. I don't really have good figures, because I get so few Mac IE5 hits that they're not statistically valid. Do other people get enough to worry about? -- Iain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0
Ah, I've had another look, and I see that all those images also have the
same class applied to them as well.
Right, I think this might help:
div id=curveBlock
img src=/images/tempcurve_r1_c1.gif width=152
height=11 class=curve alt=curve /
etc...
/div
In the CSS:
div#curveBlock {
width: 152px;
float: right;
}
img.curve {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
float: right;
clear: right;
}
So this separates the div and the contained images so they no longer have
identical sets of rules applied. I don't have the means of testing this so
it's all guess work. Fingers crossed!
Iain
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To: Iain Gardiner
Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS float/clear rendering in Firefox 1.0
Hello Iain,
Thursday, November 11, 2004, 5:23:55 PM, you wrote:
Thank you for the suggestions! I tried removing the clear: right; rule, and
ended up with the images lined up under the level of the news box on the
left through the center column.
I've been through the Firefox forums and haven't found any solutions that
have worked. If Firefox is implementing the spec closely, then I'm assuming
the problem exists in my CSS. But *where*?
IG Another thing I noticed is that you define this class as img.curve,
IG tying it in to images exclusively, but in your markup you use it on
IG a div which is not technically good practice.
Thank you for the heads up! It's really appreciated.
My coworkers and I have learned CSS by using it, so now we're wanting to get
into good coding practices, structuring pages and CSS more intuitively, etc.
Thank you.
Kim Nylander
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Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
Remember with the W3 Browser Stats that it's mainly developers and geeks who are checking this site out. I'm guessing most of the public (and corporate sector that we build sites for) are more inline with The Counter's results. :o) Richard - Original Message - From: Anthony Timberlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?] 17.7% (sorry for the 40%)... That's still pretty good for a company that big! Source: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac
Hi Iain, Normally, I wouldn't care about it, because it works fine in Safari, but the client whom I am developing this for uses IE5 on the mac at work. Also, their target market may include a lot of non-tech savvy people who have old macs/browsers. Natalie On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:56:42 +, Iain Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thursday, November 11, 2004, 11:02:11 PM, Natalie wrote: I'm currently wrestling with that most annoying of bugbears, IE 5.2.3 on the Mac. I put that into the same category as NN4 - a browser that's only used by people who like broken web pages. I don't really have good figures, because I get so few Mac IE5 hits that they're not statistically valid. Do other people get enough to worry about? -- Iain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Website Designer/Developer www.nataliebuxton.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Screen resolution problems with main page
Hi everyone www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Have just discovered that the main page does not look good at a resolution of 1024x768. I have been working in 800x600. One problem is the background image in the header stopping too short and being replaced by the background color (I could perhaps change the background color to white so that this is not noticeable) but the main issue is the length of the page. In 800x600 the page fills the screen so that practically no vertical scrolling is required. I wanted the navbar to be completely visible at all times so haven't got a lot of content elsewhere on the page. The subsequent pages are not a problem as they will have lots of content and so fill the screen vertically. However, the main page stops about halfway down in 1024x768 which looks awful. Is there any way around this? I have been reading up on various solutions including js about which I know nothing and am hoping for a simple fix. LOL Thanks Lyn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Screen resolution problems with main page
A little padding might do the job.. On 11/11/2004 7:31:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Have just discovered that the main page does not look good at a resolution of 1024x768. I have been working in 800x600. One problem is the background image in the header stopping too short and being replaced by the background color (I could perhaps change the background color to white so that this is not noticeable) but the main issue is the length of the page. In 800x600 the page fills the screen so that practically no vertical scrolling is required. I wanted the navbar to be completely visible at all times so haven't got a lot of content elsewhere on the page. The subsequent pages are not a problem as they will have lots of content and so fill the screen vertically. However, the main page stops about halfway down in 1024x768 which looks awful. Is there any way around this? I have been reading up on various solutions including js about which I know nothing and am hoping for a simple fix. LOL Thanks Lyn ** The discussion list ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Screen resolution problems with main page
Bernie - where do you suggest I put the padding? Thanks Lyn Bennie Shepherd wrote: A little padding might do the job.. On 11/11/2004 7:31:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Have just discovered that the main page does not look good at a resolution of 1024x768. I have been working in 800x600. One problem is the background image in the header stopping too short and being replaced by the background color (I could perhaps change the background color to white so that this is not noticeable) but the main issue is the length of the page. In 800x600 the page fills the screen so that practically no vertical scrolling is required. I wanted the navbar to be completely visible at all times so haven't got a lot of content elsewhere on the page. The subsequent pages are not a problem as they will have lots of content and so fill the screen vertically. However, the main page stops about halfway down in 1024x768 which looks awful. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Screen resolution problems with main page
Have just discovered that the main page does not look good at a resolution of 1024x768. I have been working in 800x600. There are a number of things you could do. One would be to confine the viewable area to the 800 px size you like (well actually a little less to allow for browser space itself) You could enclose it all in a div with your chosen defined width and then center it. Then no matter the resolution, you have your view site the way you want and the text will appear longer too since it's in a confined space. If you've been following the discussion on fluid vs fixed width designs though, you know that there are some issues like how it displays when text size is increased or decreased, etc. In reality you don't ever really have total control of how a site appears to a specific user since they may have dif resolutions, browser with their window not fully screen, and so forth. This brings me to the issue of the background image. If you're controlling the display size, then the background image will always be shown at it's full size, unless someone views it with their window smaller - again it's maximum you're controlling, not minimum, width. Which is already an issue with your site. Have you looked at it with the window smaller? Of course many designers say they just won't consider anyone viewing smaller then 800, but others feel you need to degrade? gracefully even smaller. An alternative is to make the page 100% in your css and then force the footer to be at the bottom no matter what the length of your text. There are a number of dif layouts that can achieve this and still retain your design. You just get a lot of empty space before you come to the footer - which will look better then your current issue. Let me know what kind of solutions you're interested in and I'd be happy to help. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Screen resolution problems with main page
Try this height:expression(document.body.clientHeight); Graham Cook Standards Manager - Content Integrity Data Online Telstra Technology 32/300 Latrobe St Melbourne VIC 3000 Ph- (03) 9632 8035 Fax - (03) 8600 9850 Mob - (03) 0417 876 869 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find out more about Standards : http://telstra.com.au/standards/index.cfm The information contained in this e-mail message may be CONFIDENTIAL and may also be the subject of Legal Professional Privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please reply to this email to advise of the incorrect delivery and then delete both it and your reply. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bennie Shepherd Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Screen resolution problems with main page A little padding might do the job.. On 11/11/2004 7:31:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Have just discovered that the main page does not look good at a resolution of 1024x768. I have been working in 800x600. One problem is the background image in the header stopping too short and being replaced by the background color (I could perhaps change the background color to white so that this is not noticeable) but the main issue is the length of the page. In 800x600 the page fills the screen so that practically no vertical scrolling is required. I wanted the navbar to be completely visible at all times so haven't got a lot of content elsewhere on the page. The subsequent pages are not a problem as they will have lots of content and so fill the screen vertically. However, the main page stops about halfway down in 1024x768 which looks awful. Is there any way around this? I have been reading up on various solutions including js about which I know nothing and am hoping for a simple fix. LOL Thanks Lyn ** The discussion list ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
I assumed these stats we gathered not only from their client base but from their internet.com suite of sites - surely used by corporate and IT... ? - Original Message - From: Natalie Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?] Regarding The Counter Stats though, their counters are mainly on low-end photos of my cat and teenage I hate school angst sites, rather than corporate sites. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac
On 12 Nov 2004, at 8:56 am, Iain Harrison wrote: Thursday, November 11, 2004, 11:02:11 PM, Natalie wrote: I'm currently wrestling with that most annoying of bugbears, IE 5.2.3 on the Mac. I put that into the same category as NN4 - a browser that's only used by people who like broken web pages. I don't really have good figures, because I get so few Mac IE5 hits that they're not statistically valid. Do other people get enough to worry about? Depending on your audience Surprisingly (not ?), I noticed that most IE Mac hits come from IE Mac 5.0 (the oldest version). IE 5.2x (OS X version) has virtually disappeared (except @ my l-c-n.com, for a reason...). IE 5.1x, the most recent version running on OS 9 is fast fading as well. But putting it in the same league as NN4 is unfair, to say the least. Many quirks in IE mac can be tracked to some inconsistencies in the CSS 2.0 specs. And I still find it more easy to deal with that browser than with IE win. Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] FireFox Problem With UL/LI
Hey List, I am sure this is documented somewhere, but I dont know what I would call the problem. www.neester.com/beta/ The navigation menu has extra pixels in the margin after: JOURNAL, CALENDAR and UNIVERSITY... What can I do to recitfy this issue? There must be some simple solution... even IE gets this one right! :) Cheers -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FireFox Problem With UL/LI
Im using Firefox and I cant see this issue Chris, can you show us a screenshot? Natalie On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:23:57 +1100, Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey List, I am sure this is documented somewhere, but I dont know what I would call the problem. www.neester.com/beta/ The navigation menu has extra pixels in the margin after: JOURNAL, CALENDAR and UNIVERSITY... What can I do to recitfy this issue? There must be some simple solution... even IE gets this one right! :) Cheers -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Website Designer/Developer www.nataliebuxton.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] IE6 background image issue
IE 6 surprises me :/ http://dev.l-c-n.com/_j/head2.html If the window is large enough, the header displays correctly. However - according to the client - when the window is smaller, the text in the list of links starts overlapping the green bar. This only happens on IE6, and intermittently, at that. What is not clear to me (I rely here on comments by the client, on VPC it seems to work fine) is * is the text, the list of links, moving down when the window is small ? * is the green bar, a background image, moving upwards ? (the green bar should remain 10 px up from the bottom edge of the logo image to the left) Solutions ? (I know that thing is way to long - not my idea, client even wants 4 more links in there) TIA Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FireFox Problem With UL/LI
On 12 Nov 2004, at 3:23 pm, Chris Stratford wrote: www.neester.com/beta/ The navigation menu has extra pixels in the margin after: JOURNAL, CALENDAR and UNIVERSITY... does this matches your problem ? http://dev.l-c-n.com/Gecko/moz_spacing.php Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] International Pages Check
Hi all, This site is still well and truly in draft stage (I know - the menu is still up the spout!) but looking for feedback specifically on the internationalisation of the following pages: http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-german.php http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-swedish.php http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-spanish.php http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-mandarin.php http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-cantonese.php http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-japanese.php http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-korean.php http://www.rrdl.com.au/cqieta/info-thai.php First time I've had a crack at foreign character sets - any feedback on this aspect of the site would be much appreciated! Cheers Jason -- Jason Foss Almost Anything Desktop Publishing www.almost-anything.com.au Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia We can do almost anything! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] International Pages Check
On 11/11/04 11:24 PM Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: This site is still well and truly in draft stage (I know - the menu is still up the spout!) but looking for feedback specifically on the internationalisation of the following pages: Aside from anything else, I think you need captions (or whatever the stds thing is) for all those flags. I recognize one of them - guess which one! Rick Faaberg ps. Your server is really slow to deliver to over here in North America. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
