Re: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread Jesse Hutton
Here is my keyboard and mouse sections of my SF86Config-4.  It's a pretty
generic configuration, so may help you a little:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

For Debian, you can do (as root) 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86', and
that will give you a nice configuration program.  From there it shouldn't
be hard to get a working system.  One of those XkbModels  that you tried
should have worked (maybe try pc101?).  Now, you probably won't get every
single key on that thing to work, since many are Microsoft specific
command shortcuts, but you should easily be able to get normal
functionality.

Another thing, if you are going to be using dpkg-reconfig to configure X,
choose the least advanced level for the config questions they ask you.
You will probably still need to know the horizontal and vertical refresh
rates of your monitor, but it will automatically choose sensible options
for a lot of other stuff.

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> I'm trying to complete an xfree86 installation (4.1) using Debian woody.
> I have a Dell-supplied Microsoft Natural
>
> keyboard and an IntelliMouse PS/2 compatible mouse from Microsoft and a
> Logitech Optical Mouse
>
>
>
> None of the settings commented in XFConfig work, nor do any of the
> settings discussed on the xfree86 website
>
>
>
> There is some reference to "other keyboard configurations. so they are
> not documented here" in the keyboard
>
> section on the website
>
>
>
> For the keyboard, I've tried PS/2, Microsoft, ps102, ps104, ps105. For
> the Microsoft mouse, auto, IMPS/2, PS/2
>
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> --
>
> David
>
>


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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread David Turetsky
[Latest on top]

I have tried all of your suggestions to no effect, including pc101,
Microsoft IntelliType Pro (from Dell documentation)

Rather than use dpkg-reconfigure, I have been manually editing
XF86Congif-4

A few factoids to complete the description of the environment"

When linux boots up, it recognizes the keyboard as:

  Input0:  Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro on usb1:3.0

When XF86 was initially installed it posted /dev/tty0 for the mouse.
When I just now changed it to /dev/input/mice per your suggestion, gdm
failed to start up at all, with EE msg XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open
device /dev/input/mice No such device although there is in fact a
/dev/input/mice

Separately, this output shows (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by
legacy driver

-- 
David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
 
Here is my keyboard and mouse sections of my SF86Config-4.  It's a
pretty
generic configuration, so may help you a little:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

For Debian, you can do (as root) 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86', and
that will give you a nice configuration program.  From there it
shouldn't
be hard to get a working system.  One of those XkbModels  that you tried
should have worked (maybe try pc101?).  Now, you probably won't get
every
single key on that thing to work, since many are Microsoft specific
command shortcuts, but you should easily be able to get normal
functionality.

Another thing, if you are going to be using dpkg-reconfig to configure
X,
choose the least advanced level for the config questions they ask you.
You will probably still need to know the horizontal and vertical refresh
rates of your monitor, but it will automatically choose sensible options
for a lot of other stuff.

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> I'm trying to complete an xfree86 installation (4.1) using Debian
woody.
> I have a Dell-supplied Microsoft Natural
>
> keyboard and an IntelliMouse PS/2 compatible mouse from Microsoft and
a
> Logitech Optical Mouse
>
> None of the settings commented in XFConfig work, nor do any of the
> settings discussed on the xfree86 website
>
> There is some reference to "other keyboard configurations. so they are
> not documented here" in the keyboard
>
> section on the website
>
> For the keyboard, I've tried PS/2, Microsoft, ps102, ps104, ps105. For
> the Microsoft mouse, auto, IMPS/2, PS/2


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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread Jesse Hutton
Is your mouse a usb device?  If not, perhaps try /dev/psaux instead of
/dev/input/mice.

You should try dpkg-reconfigure too.  It may give you configure options
for the keyboard that you haven't though of yet.  Once you have a
XF86Config-4 that works, then edit it by hand for whatever tuning and
adjustments you want.

You can use dpkg-reconfigure to change between gdm, kdm, and xdm, as
well, by just putting one of them as the object of the command (I couldn't
figure out earlier if you wanted to change login managers, or simply
disable them entirely).

If that doesn't work, have you posted your XF86Config-4 file yet?  And it
is only the keyboard and mouse that are causing you problems?

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> [Latest on top]
>
> I have tried all of your suggestions to no effect, including pc101,
> Microsoft IntelliType Pro (from Dell documentation)
>
> Rather than use dpkg-reconfigure, I have been manually editing
> XF86Congif-4
>
> A few factoids to complete the description of the environment"
>
> When linux boots up, it recognizes the keyboard as:
>
>   Input0:  Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro on usb1:3.0
>
> When XF86 was initially installed it posted /dev/tty0 for the mouse.
> When I just now changed it to /dev/input/mice per your suggestion, gdm
> failed to start up at all, with EE msg XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open
> device /dev/input/mice No such device although there is in fact a
> /dev/input/mice
>
> Separately, this output shows (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by
> legacy driver
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
>
> Here is my keyboard and mouse sections of my SF86Config-4.  It's a
> pretty
> generic configuration, so may help you a little:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> For Debian, you can do (as root) 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86', and
> that will give you a nice configuration program.  From there it
> shouldn't
> be hard to get a working system.  One of those XkbModels  that you tried
> should have worked (maybe try pc101?).  Now, you probably won't get
> every
> single key on that thing to work, since many are Microsoft specific
> command shortcuts, but you should easily be able to get normal
> functionality.
>
> Another thing, if you are going to be using dpkg-reconfig to configure
> X,
> choose the least advanced level for the config questions they ask you.
> You will probably still need to know the horizontal and vertical refresh
> rates of your monitor, but it will automatically choose sensible options
> for a lot of other stuff.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to complete an xfree86 installation (4.1) using Debian
> woody.
> > I have a Dell-supplied Microsoft Natural
> >
> > keyboard and an IntelliMouse PS/2 compatible mouse from Microsoft and
> a
> > Logitech Optical Mouse
> >
> > None of the settings commented in XFConfig work, nor do any of the
> > settings discussed on the xfree86 website
> >
> > There is some reference to "other keyboard configurations. so they are
> > not documented here" in the keyboard
> >
> > section on the website
> >
> > For the keyboard, I've tried PS/2, Microsoft, ps102, ps104, ps105. For
> > the Microsoft mouse, auto, IMPS/2, PS/2
>
>
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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread David Turetsky
I have a USB optical mouse (Logitech) and what I think/thought is a
serial or PS/2 mouse from Microsoft. They both work under Windows as I
migrate to the optical mouse (I was waiting to see if linux supported
the optical mouse)

My system works just fine at the command line (obviously no mouse).
Keyboard is completely recognized in that environment without issue

I had set up my configuration using XFConfig but I will certainly try
your suggestions

I will shortly post my XF86Config-4 file after trying your suggestions

-- 
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

Is your mouse a usb device?  If not, perhaps try /dev/psaux instead of
/dev/input/mice.

You should try dpkg-reconfigure too.  It may give you configure options
for the keyboard that you haven't though of yet.  Once you have a
XF86Config-4 that works, then edit it by hand for whatever tuning and
adjustments you want.

You can use dpkg-reconfigure to change between gdm, kdm, and xdm, as
well, by just putting one of them as the object of the command (I
couldn't
figure out earlier if you wanted to change login managers, or simply
disable them entirely).

If that doesn't work, have you posted your XF86Config-4 file yet?  And
it
is only the keyboard and mouse that are causing you problems?

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> [Latest on top]
>
> I have tried all of your suggestions to no effect, including pc101,
> Microsoft IntelliType Pro (from Dell documentation)
>
> Rather than use dpkg-reconfigure, I have been manually editing
> XF86Congif-4
>
> A few factoids to complete the description of the environment"
>
> When linux boots up, it recognizes the keyboard as:
>
>   Input0:  Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro on usb1:3.0
>
> When XF86 was initially installed it posted /dev/tty0 for the mouse.
> When I just now changed it to /dev/input/mice per your suggestion, gdm
> failed to start up at all, with EE msg XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open
> device /dev/input/mice No such device although there is in fact a
> /dev/input/mice
>
> Separately, this output shows (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by
> legacy driver
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
>
> Here is my keyboard and mouse sections of my SF86Config-4.  It's a
> pretty
> generic configuration, so may help you a little:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> For Debian, you can do (as root) 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86',
and
> that will give you a nice configuration program.  From there it
> shouldn't
> be hard to get a working system.  One of those XkbModels  that you
tried
> should have worked (maybe try pc101?).  Now, you probably won't get
> every
> single key on that thing to work, since many are Microsoft specific
> command shortcuts, but you should easily be able to get normal
> functionality.
>
> Another thing, if you are going to be using dpkg-reconfig to configure
> X,
> choose the least advanced level for the config questions they ask you.
> You will probably still need to know the horizontal and vertical
refresh
> rates of your monitor, but it will automatically choose sensible
options
> for a lot of other stuff.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to complete an xfree86 installation (4.1) using Debian
> woody.
> > I have a Dell-supplied Microsoft Natural
> >
> > keyboard and an IntelliMouse PS/2 compatible mouse from Microsoft
and
> a
> > Logitech Optical Mouse
> >
> > None of the settings commented in XFConfig work, nor do any of the
> > 

RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread David Turetsky
PROGRESS!!!

I ran dpkg-reconfigure... it did indeed select /dev/psaux so I went
along with it... Problem: gdm startup hung up on the screen details
regardless of what I specified, so I ended up editing the
xf86config-generated Config-4 file, borrowing details from the
dpkg-reconfigured version

UP AND RUNNING with gdm, using Microsoft mouse, but Logitech optical
mouse apparently not recognized... survivable... something to worry
about later, if ever. No problem recognizing keyboard (ps104)

Thanks to all for help. Now I can REALLY get into trouble!

Welcome any further thoughts and suggestions. Thanks again!

-- 
David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

Is your mouse a usb device?  If not, perhaps try /dev/psaux instead of
/dev/input/mice.

You should try dpkg-reconfigure too.  It may give you configure options
for the keyboard that you haven't though of yet.  Once you have a
XF86Config-4 that works, then edit it by hand for whatever tuning and
adjustments you want.

You can use dpkg-reconfigure to change between gdm, kdm, and xdm, as
well, by just putting one of them as the object of the command (I
couldn't
figure out earlier if you wanted to change login managers, or simply
disable them entirely).

If that doesn't work, have you posted your XF86Config-4 file yet?  And
it
is only the keyboard and mouse that are causing you problems?

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> [Latest on top]
>
> I have tried all of your suggestions to no effect, including pc101,
> Microsoft IntelliType Pro (from Dell documentation)
>
> Rather than use dpkg-reconfigure, I have been manually editing
> XF86Congif-4
>
> A few factoids to complete the description of the environment"
>
> When linux boots up, it recognizes the keyboard as:
>
>   Input0:  Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro on usb1:3.0
>
> When XF86 was initially installed it posted /dev/tty0 for the mouse.
> When I just now changed it to /dev/input/mice per your suggestion, gdm
> failed to start up at all, with EE msg XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open
> device /dev/input/mice No such device although there is in fact a
> /dev/input/mice
>
> Separately, this output shows (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by
> legacy driver
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
>
> Here is my keyboard and mouse sections of my SF86Config-4.  It's a
> pretty
> generic configuration, so may help you a little:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> For Debian, you can do (as root) 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86',
and
> that will give you a nice configuration program.  From there it
> shouldn't
> be hard to get a working system.  One of those XkbModels  that you
tried
> should have worked (maybe try pc101?).  Now, you probably won't get
> every
> single key on that thing to work, since many are Microsoft specific
> command shortcuts, but you should easily be able to get normal
> functionality.
>
> Another thing, if you are going to be using dpkg-reconfig to configure
> X,
> choose the least advanced level for the config questions they ask you.
> You will probably still need to know the horizontal and vertical
refresh
> rates of your monitor, but it will automatically choose sensible
options
> for a lot of other stuff.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to complete an xfree86 installation (4.1) using Debian
> woody.
> > I have a Dell-supplied Microsoft Natural
> >
> > keyboard and an IntelliMouse PS/2 compatible mouse from Microsoft
and
> a
> > Logitech Optical Mouse
> >
> > None of the settings commented in XFConfig work, nor do any of the
> > settings discussed on the xfree86 website
> >
> > There is some reference to "other keyboard configurations. so they
are
> > not documented here" in the keyboard
> >
> > section on the website
> >
> > For the keyboard, I've tried PS/2, Microsoft, ps102, ps104, ps105.
For
> > the Microsoft mouse, auto, IMPS/2, PS/2


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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread Jesse Hutton
Glad to hear it.  You can probably use that optical mouse as well (I have
a Logitech optical, which works great), but you just have to change
/dev/psaux back to /dev/input/mice.

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> PROGRESS!!!
>
> I ran dpkg-reconfigure... it did indeed select /dev/psaux so I went
> along with it... Problem: gdm startup hung up on the screen details
> regardless of what I specified, so I ended up editing the
> xf86config-generated Config-4 file, borrowing details from the
> dpkg-reconfigured version
>
> UP AND RUNNING with gdm, using Microsoft mouse, but Logitech optical
> mouse apparently not recognized... survivable... something to worry
> about later, if ever. No problem recognizing keyboard (ps104)
>
> Thanks to all for help. Now I can REALLY get into trouble!
>
> Welcome any further thoughts and suggestions. Thanks again!
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Is your mouse a usb device?  If not, perhaps try /dev/psaux instead of
> /dev/input/mice.
>
> You should try dpkg-reconfigure too.  It may give you configure options
> for the keyboard that you haven't though of yet.  Once you have a
> XF86Config-4 that works, then edit it by hand for whatever tuning and
> adjustments you want.
>
> You can use dpkg-reconfigure to change between gdm, kdm, and xdm, as
> well, by just putting one of them as the object of the command (I
> couldn't
> figure out earlier if you wanted to change login managers, or simply
> disable them entirely).
>
> If that doesn't work, have you posted your XF86Config-4 file yet?  And
> it
> is only the keyboard and mouse that are causing you problems?
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > [Latest on top]
> >
> > I have tried all of your suggestions to no effect, including pc101,
> > Microsoft IntelliType Pro (from Dell documentation)
> >
> > Rather than use dpkg-reconfigure, I have been manually editing
> > XF86Congif-4
> >
> > A few factoids to complete the description of the environment"
> >
> > When linux boots up, it recognizes the keyboard as:
> >
> >   Input0:  Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro on usb1:3.0
> >
> > When XF86 was initially installed it posted /dev/tty0 for the mouse.
> > When I just now changed it to /dev/input/mice per your suggestion, gdm
> > failed to start up at all, with EE msg XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open
> > device /dev/input/mice No such device although there is in fact a
> > /dev/input/mice
> >
> > Separately, this output shows (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by
> > legacy driver
> >
> > --
> > David
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> > Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> >
> > Here is my keyboard and mouse sections of my SF86Config-4.  It's a
> > pretty
> > generic configuration, so may help you a little:
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> > Driver  "keyboard"
> > Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> > Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> > Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> > Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option  "CorePointer"
> > Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> > Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
> > Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> > Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> > EndSection
> >
> > For Debian, you can do (as root) 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86',
> and
> > that will give you a nice configuration program.  From there it
> > shouldn't
> > be hard to get a working system.  One of those XkbModels  that you
> tried
> > should have worked (maybe try pc101?).  Now, you probably won't get
> > every
> > single key on that thing to work, since many are Microsoft specific
> > command shortcuts, but y

RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread David Turetsky
I have two 'mouse/mice' entries in my Input Device Section, so I've just
changed the one re Optical Mouse as you suggest

One problem: I was in Gnome and used Ctl-Alt-F1 or similar to get to the
command line. How do I get back. When in enter 'gdm' the response is
'gdm already running. Aborting!'

Another question: Apparently from gnome I cannot log in as root. How do
I do that from an x environment?

Thanks again, guys!

-- 
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

Glad to hear it.  You can probably use that optical mouse as well (I
have
a Logitech optical, which works great), but you just have to change
/dev/psaux back to /dev/input/mice.

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> PROGRESS!!!
>
> I ran dpkg-reconfigure... it did indeed select /dev/psaux so I went
> along with it... Problem: gdm startup hung up on the screen details
> regardless of what I specified, so I ended up editing the
> xf86config-generated Config-4 file, borrowing details from the
> dpkg-reconfigured version
>
> UP AND RUNNING with gdm, using Microsoft mouse, but Logitech optical
> mouse apparently not recognized... survivable... something to worry
> about later, if ever. No problem recognizing keyboard (ps104)
>
> Thanks to all for help. Now I can REALLY get into trouble!
>
> Welcome any further thoughts and suggestions. Thanks again!
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Is your mouse a usb device?  If not, perhaps try /dev/psaux instead of
> /dev/input/mice.
>
> You should try dpkg-reconfigure too.  It may give you configure
options
> for the keyboard that you haven't though of yet.  Once you have a
> XF86Config-4 that works, then edit it by hand for whatever tuning and
> adjustments you want.
>
> You can use dpkg-reconfigure to change between gdm, kdm, and xdm, as
> well, by just putting one of them as the object of the command (I
> couldn't
> figure out earlier if you wanted to change login managers, or simply
> disable them entirely).
>
> If that doesn't work, have you posted your XF86Config-4 file yet?  And
> it
> is only the keyboard and mouse that are causing you problems?
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > [Latest on top]
> >
> > I have tried all of your suggestions to no effect, including pc101,
> > Microsoft IntelliType Pro (from Dell documentation)
> >
> > Rather than use dpkg-reconfigure, I have been manually editing
> > XF86Congif-4
> >
> > A few factoids to complete the description of the environment"
> >
> > When linux boots up, it recognizes the keyboard as:
> >
> >   Input0:  Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro on usb1:3.0
> >
> > When XF86 was initially installed it posted /dev/tty0 for the mouse.
> > When I just now changed it to /dev/input/mice per your suggestion,
gdm
> > failed to start up at all, with EE msg XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open
> > device /dev/input/mice No such device although there is in fact a
> > /dev/input/mice
> >
> > Separately, this output shows (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by
> > legacy driver
> >
> > --
> > David
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On
> > Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> >
> > Here is my keyboard and mouse sections of my SF86Config-4.  It's a
> > pretty
> > generic configuration, so may help you a little:
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> > Driver  "keyboard"
> > Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> > Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> > Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> > Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option  "CorePointer"
> > Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> > Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2

RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread David Turetsky
I just tried that change (from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice) and x
startup bombed out. Can you send me the full section for pointers from
your Config-4 file?

-- 
David

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

Glad to hear it.  You can probably use that optical mouse as well (I
have
a Logitech optical, which works great), but you just have to change
/dev/psaux back to /dev/input/mice.

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> PROGRESS!!!
>


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Re: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread Brian C. Dilley
Could any of you guys help me with buildign XFree86? I have problems when it 
starts to "clean" in doc.

On Friday 07 February 2003 09:05 pm, David Turetsky wrote:
> I just tried that change (from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice) and x
> startup bombed out. Can you send me the full section for pointers from
> your Config-4 file?

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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread Jesse Hutton
pointer section:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

You have to make sure that the right modules are loaded in the kernel in
order to use usb devices.  So, if you boot with the PS/2 mouse, you might
have to load the modules by hand in order for it to work, otherwise they
should load automatically (I'm assuming you're running the stock kernel).

Jesse

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> I just tried that change (from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice) and x
> startup bombed out. Can you send me the full section for pointers from
> your Config-4 file?
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Glad to hear it.  You can probably use that optical mouse as well (I
> have
> a Logitech optical, which works great), but you just have to change
> /dev/psaux back to /dev/input/mice.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > PROGRESS!!!
> >
>
>
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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-07 Thread Jesse Hutton
To get from a terminal to X, it's usually Alt-F7 (ttys 1-6 are commonly
getty login instances).  Also there is a program called 'su' which allows
you to become the root user.

You should check out debian's install documentation from their website.
It will help you get accustomed to the basics of the system.  Debian
offers a ton of great documentation, on the web, and which you can
download as .deb packages (use dselect, and go to the Optional/docs
section).

Jesse

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> I have two 'mouse/mice' entries in my Input Device Section, so I've just
> changed the one re Optical Mouse as you suggest
>
> One problem: I was in Gnome and used Ctl-Alt-F1 or similar to get to the
> command line. How do I get back. When in enter 'gdm' the response is
> 'gdm already running. Aborting!'
>
> Another question: Apparently from gnome I cannot log in as root. How do
> I do that from an x environment?
>
> Thanks again, guys!
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Glad to hear it.  You can probably use that optical mouse as well (I
> have
> a Logitech optical, which works great), but you just have to change
> /dev/psaux back to /dev/input/mice.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > PROGRESS!!!
> >
> > I ran dpkg-reconfigure... it did indeed select /dev/psaux so I went
> > along with it... Problem: gdm startup hung up on the screen details
> > regardless of what I specified, so I ended up editing the
> > xf86config-generated Config-4 file, borrowing details from the
> > dpkg-reconfigured version
> >
> > UP AND RUNNING with gdm, using Microsoft mouse, but Logitech optical
> > mouse apparently not recognized... survivable... something to worry
> > about later, if ever. No problem recognizing keyboard (ps104)
> >
> > Thanks to all for help. Now I can REALLY get into trouble!
> >
> > Welcome any further thoughts and suggestions. Thanks again!
> >
> > --
> > David
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> > Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
> >
> > Is your mouse a usb device?  If not, perhaps try /dev/psaux instead of
> > /dev/input/mice.
> >
> > You should try dpkg-reconfigure too.  It may give you configure
> options
> > for the keyboard that you haven't though of yet.  Once you have a
> > XF86Config-4 that works, then edit it by hand for whatever tuning and
> > adjustments you want.
> >
> > You can use dpkg-reconfigure to change between gdm, kdm, and xdm, as
> > well, by just putting one of them as the object of the command (I
> > couldn't
> > figure out earlier if you wanted to change login managers, or simply
> > disable them entirely).
> >
> > If that doesn't work, have you posted your XF86Config-4 file yet?  And
> > it
> > is only the keyboard and mouse that are causing you problems?
> >
> > Jesse
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
> >
> > > [Latest on top]
> > >
> > > I have tried all of your suggestions to no effect, including pc101,
> > > Microsoft IntelliType Pro (from Dell documentation)
> > >
> > > Rather than use dpkg-reconfigure, I have been manually editing
> > > XF86Congif-4
> > >
> > > A few factoids to complete the description of the environment"
> > >
> > > When linux boots up, it recognizes the keyboard as:
> > >
> > >   Input0:  Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro on usb1:3.0
> > >
> > > When XF86 was initially installed it posted /dev/tty0 for the mouse.
> > > When I just now changed it to /dev/input/mice per your suggestion,
> gdm
> > > failed to start up at all, with EE msg XF86OpenSerial: Cannot open
> > > device /dev/input/mice No such device although there is in fact a
> > > /dev/input/mice
> > >
> > > Separately, this output shows (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by
> > > legacy driver
> > >
> > > --
> > > David
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> O

RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
XF86Openserial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
  No such device
Logitech optical mouse: cannot open input device
PreInit failed for input device "Logitech optical mouse"

I tried the recommended settings again after commenting out the
Microsoft IntelliMouse section (I was trying to run with both), but got
the same error messages

I am using a stock kernel from the Woody CD distribution

ls -a /dev/input shows mice

I suppose I could use the adapter and plug it into the back of my
processor where the Microsoft mouse is now installed. Right now it is
plugged into a USB 1.1 port off of my keyboard

-- 
David

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Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

pointer section:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

You have to make sure that the right modules are loaded in the kernel in
order to use usb devices.  So, if you boot with the PS/2 mouse, you
might
have to load the modules by hand in order for it to work, otherwise they
should load automatically (I'm assuming you're running the stock
kernel).

Jesse

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> I just tried that change (from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice) and x
> startup bombed out. Can you send me the full section for pointers from
> your Config-4 file?
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Glad to hear it.  You can probably use that optical mouse as well (I
> have
> a Logitech optical, which works great), but you just have to change
> /dev/psaux back to /dev/input/mice.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > PROGRESS!!!
> >
>
>
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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
I will confess to some prior usage of both debian and unix. I was
running Potato... and its predecessor about 2 years ago, with mutt, vim,
gcc, exim, mostly and came back to try again when a Woody CD
distribution became available with support for my Nvidia graphics card.
Previously I had used a Silicon Graphics box some years previously

Before availing myself of these lists, I typically check man, info, any
HOWTO, the CD readme and help files, O'Reilly books, and often run a
google search as well but often the relevant information doesn't always
readily rise to the level of my radar

For example, where is Alt-F7 documented (I fully stand ready to be
embarrassed)

PS, I suppose a lot of my problem could also be hoisted on a fading
short-term memory (a combo of disease and age) and a major focus on a
Windows production requirement

-- 
David

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Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:57 AM
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Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

To get from a terminal to X, it's usually Alt-F7 (ttys 1-6 are commonly
getty login instances).  Also there is a program called 'su' which
allows
you to become the root user.

You should check out debian's install documentation from their website.
It will help you get accustomed to the basics of the system.  Debian
offers a ton of great documentation, on the web, and which you can
download as .deb packages (use dselect, and go to the Optional/docs
section).


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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
Atl-f7 does not do it on my system. Thanks for reminding me of su

-- 
David

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Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

To get from a terminal to X, it's usually Alt-F7 (ttys 1-6 are commonly
getty login instances).  Also there is a program called 'su' which
allows
you to become the root user.



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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread Peter Finderup Lund
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> For example, where is Alt-F7 documented (I fully stand ready to be
> embarrassed)

man 1 chvt

(chvt is for scripted change of virtual terminals - it also mentions how
to do it from the keyboard)

I also think it is mentioned in several of the XFree86 documents -- but my
memory isn't too great either :/

-Peter

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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
Ctl-Alt-F7 seems to do it on my system (Microsoft Natural Pro keyboard)

-- 
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Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

To get from a terminal to X, it's usually Alt-F7 (ttys 1-6 are commonly
getty login instances).  Also there is a program called 'su' which
allows
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Re: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread Hans Öfverbeck
Hi,

David Turetsky wrote:


Atl-f7 does not do it on my system. 

Try: Ctrl-Alt-F7

Best Regards
Hans Öfverbeck



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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
Hey, wow! Man 1 chvt. Awright!

I used xterm on my Gnome desktop to view this. 

A couple of questions:

While I fished around a bit, I don't see how to specify a different
font... say for xterm. The 'Control Center' didn't seem to offer help

Speaking of help, when I click on the ? icon on the bottom of my screen,
I get a window with 'Could not load default TOC page'. However, when I
click on Help in the menu of 'Control Center' it does open html pages of
help

I tried importing a jpg file that I use in windows as screen background.
Should gnome accept it? It seemed to politely ignore it. Is this feature
limited to solid colors?

BTW, on a personal note, my long-term memory is quite excellent and
indeed improving with time; however my short-term memory ain't quite
what it used to be since bypass surgery. As for age, that is a state
secret, but I will confess to occasionally dating women easily young
enough to be offspring and plenty old enough to vote. I suppose that's
both bragging and complaining

-- 
David

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Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> For example, where is Alt-F7 documented (I fully stand ready to be
> embarrassed)

man 1 chvt

(chvt is for scripted change of virtual terminals - it also mentions how
to do it from the keyboard)

I also think it is mentioned in several of the XFree86 documents -- but
my
memory isn't too great either :/

-Peter

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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
Yes, that's it! Thanks

-- 
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Hi,

David Turetsky wrote:

>Atl-f7 does not do it on my system. 
>
Try: Ctrl-Alt-F7



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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread Peter Finderup Lund
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> While I fished around a bit, I don't see how to specify a different
> font... say for xterm. The 'Control Center' didn't seem to offer help

It's not a gnome issue to setup the fonts for xterm.  You can, however,
use gnome-terminal and get a point'n'click interface to change fonts.

For xterm, fonts can be selected on a one-shot basis with the -fn
command-line option to xterm.  Examples:

xterm -fn fixed
xterm -fn "-*-fixed-*-*-*-*"
xterm -fn "-*-avant garde gothic-*-*-*-*"

If you want to select fonts on a more permanent basis you will need to use
X resources.

You can see the system default resources in the directory
/etc/X11/Xresources.  You can also play with the command editres.
Finally, there is a howto:

http://bsd7.starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu/~samson/HOWTO/html/XWindow-User-HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO-8.html

(it is actually documented in excruciating detail in the official X docs
-- but who wants to read that many hundred pages?)

> Speaking of help, when I click on the ? icon on the bottom of my screen,
> I get a window with 'Could not load default TOC page'. However, when I
> click on Help in the menu of 'Control Center' it does open html pages of
> help

A gnome configuration issue -- nothing to do with XFree86, or even X in
general.

> I tried importing a jpg file that I use in windows as screen background.
> Should gnome accept it? It seemed to politely ignore it. Is this feature
> limited to solid colors?

Again, a gnome issue.  It's got nothing to do with X.

(btw. jpeg files work fine on my system -- I suspect you are using an
older version where nautilus and other pieces of the system fight over who
gets to draw the background -- your background might actually show the
jpeg but nautilus covers it with a window with icons on it that looks like
the background but isn't.  You can tell Nautilus not to, tell nautilus to
draw the jpeg or get a newer version of gnome)

> BTW, on a personal note, my long-term memory is quite excellent and
> indeed improving with time; however my short-term memory ain't quite
> what it used to be since bypass surgery. As for age, that is a state
> secret, but I will confess to occasionally dating women easily young
> enough to be offspring and plenty old enough to vote. I suppose that's
> both bragging and complaining

:)

I hope to be happily married at that age but I think I can settle for what
you have there... :)

-Peter

"We need to see ex-girlfriends occasionally so that we remember why we
aren't with them anymore."

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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread Jesse Hutton
Check out this howto:
http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/usbmouse.txt ,
and verify that you see these modules loaded--uhci.o (or usb_ohci.o),
hid.o, mousedev.o--in the output of lsmod.

Jesse

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> XF86Openserial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
>   No such device
> Logitech optical mouse: cannot open input device
> PreInit failed for input device "Logitech optical mouse"
>
> I tried the recommended settings again after commenting out the
> Microsoft IntelliMouse section (I was trying to run with both), but got
> the same error messages
>
> I am using a stock kernel from the Woody CD distribution
>
> ls -a /dev/input shows mice
>
> I suppose I could use the adapter and plug it into the back of my
> processor where the Microsoft mouse is now installed. Right now it is
> plugged into a USB 1.1 port off of my keyboard
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> pointer section:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> You have to make sure that the right modules are loaded in the kernel in
> order to use usb devices.  So, if you boot with the PS/2 mouse, you
> might
> have to load the modules by hand in order for it to work, otherwise they
> should load automatically (I'm assuming you're running the stock
> kernel).
>
> Jesse
>
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > I just tried that change (from /dev/psaux to /dev/input/mice) and x
> > startup bombed out. Can you send me the full section for pointers from
> > your Config-4 file?
> >
> > --
> > David
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> > Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
> >
> > Glad to hear it.  You can probably use that optical mouse as well (I
> > have
> > a Logitech optical, which works great), but you just have to change
> > /dev/psaux back to /dev/input/mice.
> >
> > Jesse
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
> >
> > > PROGRESS!!!
> > >
> >
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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
Well, I believe I have pretty much exhausted every option based on the
referenced howto. As long as I leave my IntelliMouse section in
XF86Config-4, gdm startup seems to politely ignore whatever I have for
the Logitech optical mouse (which is itself progress of a sort). As soon
as I comment out the IntelliMouse settings, gdm bombs (XF86OpenSerial:
Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device)

lsmod gives:

Module  SizeUsed by Not tainted
ntfs48544   3   (autoclean)
nls_cp437   43847   (autoclean)
keybdev 16640   (unused)
usbkbd  28480   (unused)
input   30720   [keybdev usbkbd]
usb-uhci20708   0   (unused)
usbcore 48032   0   [usbkbd usb-uhci]

My Config-4 file is attached:

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Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

Check out this howto:
http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/usbmouse.txt ,
and verify that you see these modules loaded--uhci.o (or usb_ohci.o),
hid.o, mousedev.o--in the output of lsmod.




XF86Config-4
Description: Binary data


RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread Jesse Hutton
Try 'modprobe devmouse', and then restart X with the configuration from
the howto.  Hopefully that module will be include with your system.  If
it isn't you can probably install it from an apt source somehow, or you
can recompile the kernel.

Jesse

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> Well, I believe I have pretty much exhausted every option based on the
> referenced howto. As long as I leave my IntelliMouse section in
> XF86Config-4, gdm startup seems to politely ignore whatever I have for
> the Logitech optical mouse (which is itself progress of a sort). As soon
> as I comment out the IntelliMouse settings, gdm bombs (XF86OpenSerial:
> Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device)
>
> lsmod gives:
>
> ModuleSizeUsed by Not tainted
> ntfs  48544   3   (autoclean)
> nls_cp437 43847   (autoclean)
> keybdev   16640   (unused)
> usbkbd28480   (unused)
> input 30720   [keybdev usbkbd]
> usb-uhci  20708   0   (unused)
> usbcore   48032   0   [usbkbd usb-uhci]
>
> My Config-4 file is attached:
>
> --
> David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Check out this howto:
> http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/usbmouse.txt ,
> and verify that you see these modules loaded--uhci.o (or usb_ohci.o),
> hid.o, mousedev.o--in the output of lsmod.
>
>


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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
% modprobe devmouse
modprobe: Can't locate module devmouse
% apt-get install devmouse
E: Couldn't find package devmouse

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
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Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:10 AM
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Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

Try 'modprobe devmouse', and then restart X with the configuration from
the howto.  Hopefully that module will be include with your system.  If
it isn't you can probably install it from an apt source somehow, or you
can recompile the kernel.

Jesse

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> Well, I believe I have pretty much exhausted every option based on the
> referenced howto. As long as I leave my IntelliMouse section in
> XF86Config-4, gdm startup seems to politely ignore whatever I have for
> the Logitech optical mouse (which is itself progress of a sort). As
soon
> as I comment out the IntelliMouse settings, gdm bombs (XF86OpenSerial:
> Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device)
>
. . . .

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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread Jesse Hutton
woops, that's mousedev :).  I'm crossing my fingers.

Jesse

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> % modprobe devmouse
> modprobe: Can't locate module devmouse
> % apt-get install devmouse
> E: Couldn't find package devmouse
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Try 'modprobe devmouse', and then restart X with the configuration from
> the howto.  Hopefully that module will be include with your system.  If
> it isn't you can probably install it from an apt source somehow, or you
> can recompile the kernel.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > Well, I believe I have pretty much exhausted every option based on the
> > referenced howto. As long as I leave my IntelliMouse section in
> > XF86Config-4, gdm startup seems to politely ignore whatever I have for
> > the Logitech optical mouse (which is itself progress of a sort). As
> soon
> > as I comment out the IntelliMouse settings, gdm bombs (XF86OpenSerial:
> > Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device)
> >
> . . . .
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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-08 Thread David Turetsky
Modprobe mousedev  
Restarted x
Logged in
NEITHER mouse worked

Pause for feedback

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

woops, that's mousedev :).  I'm crossing my fingers.

Jesse

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:

> % modprobe devmouse
> modprobe: Can't locate module devmouse
> % apt-get install devmouse
> E: Couldn't find package devmouse
>
> --
> David
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jesse Hutton
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse
>
> Try 'modprobe devmouse', and then restart X with the configuration
from
> the howto.  Hopefully that module will be include with your system.
If
> it isn't you can probably install it from an apt source somehow, or
you
> can recompile the kernel.
>
> Jesse
>
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote:
>
> > Well, I believe I have pretty much exhausted every option based on
the
> > referenced howto. As long as I leave my IntelliMouse section in
> > XF86Config-4, gdm startup seems to politely ignore whatever I have
for
> > the Logitech optical mouse (which is itself progress of a sort). As
> soon
> > as I comment out the IntelliMouse settings, gdm bombs
(XF86OpenSerial:
> > Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device)


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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-09 Thread Egbert Eich
David Turetsky writes:
 > Well, I believe I have pretty much exhausted every option based on the
 > referenced howto. As long as I leave my IntelliMouse section in
 > XF86Config-4, gdm startup seems to politely ignore whatever I have for
 > the Logitech optical mouse (which is itself progress of a sort). As soon
 > as I comment out the IntelliMouse settings, gdm bombs (XF86OpenSerial:
 > Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device)
 > 

'mice' may not be the correct device to use with the ps/2 mouse
driver. Try /dev/input/mouseN, N={0,1,...}.
The kernel messages may give you the correct value of N. Use
'dmesg' to dump them.

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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-09 Thread David Turetsky
I have tried /dev/input/mouseN where N = 0...4 to no apparent effect

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Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

David Turetsky writes:
 > Well, I believe I have pretty much exhausted every option based on
the
 > referenced howto. As long as I leave my IntelliMouse section in
 > XF86Config-4, gdm startup seems to politely ignore whatever I have
for
 > the Logitech optical mouse (which is itself progress of a sort). As
soon
 > as I comment out the IntelliMouse settings, gdm bombs
(XF86OpenSerial:
 > Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device)
 > 

'mice' may not be the correct device to use with the ps/2 mouse
driver. Try /dev/input/mouseN, N={0,1,...}.
The kernel messages may give you the correct value of N. Use
'dmesg' to dump them.


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Re: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-09 Thread Brian C. Dilley
Here's my lsmod and XF86Config, i use musedev and a usb mouse works great 
for me.  The important modules are mousedev, usbmouse, hid, input, usb-uhci, 
and usbcore.

lsmod first:

.:[brian@ ~]:[ lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P  
emu10k162856   0
ac97_codec  9256   0 [emu10k1]
sound  52308   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore   3172   7 [emu10k1 sound]
af_packet   8776   1 (autoclean)
NVdriver  989728  10
ide-scsi7632   0
smbfs  33360   9
tulip  39232   1
mousedev3924   1
usbmouse1912   0 (unused)
hid17476   0 (unused)
input   3008   0 [mousedev usbmouse hid]
usb-uhci   20876   0 (unused)
usbcore54304   0 [usbmouse hid usb-uhci]
sr_mod 12792   0 (autoclean) (unused)
scsi_mod   50868   2 (autoclean) [ide-scsi sr_mod]
cdrom  25856   0 (autoclean) [sr_mod]
unix   13928  72 (autoclean)
.:[brian@ ~]:[ 


xf86config second:

# **
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **
Section "Module"

#SubSection "extmod"
#   Option "omit xfree86-dga"
#EndSubSection

# Load some other stuff
Load "dbe"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "fbdevhw"
Load "drm"
Load "extmod"
Load "i2c"
Load "fb"
Load "GLcore"
Load "mesa"
Load "dga"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "xtt"
Load "speedo"
EndSection


# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **
Section "Files"
# Font paths
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/TTF"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/100dpi"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/75dpi"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/CID"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/Speedo"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/Type1"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/cyrillic"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/encodings"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/local"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/misc"
#FontPath   "/opt/fonts/util"

# Font servers
FontPath"tcp/localhost:7100"
FontPath"unix/:7100"
FontPath"tcp/localhost:7101"
FontPath"unix/:7101"

# WTF is an rgb file?
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
EndSection


# **
# Server flags section.
# **
Section "ServerFlags"
#Option "NoTrapSignals"
#Option "Dont Zap"
#Option "Dont Zoom"
#Option "DisableVidModeExtension"
#Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"
#Option "DisableModInDev"
#Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"
EndSection


# **
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "MSKeyboard"
Driver  "Keyboard"
Option  "AutoRepeat""500 30"
Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
Option  "XkbVariant""windows-us"
EndSection



# **
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "USB Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol"  "IMPS/2"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
Option  "Buttons"   "5"
EndSection

# **
# Monitor section
# **
Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "NEC_MultiSync_FE1250"
HorizSync   31 - 110.0
#HorizSync  30-64 # multisync
#HorizSync  31.5, 35.2# multiple fixed sync frequencies
#HorizSync  15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies
VertRefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "NEC_MultiSync_P750"
HorizSync   30 - 80
VertRefresh 50 - 110
EndSection

# *

RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-09 Thread David Turetsky
I have only three out of six (missing mousedev, usbmouse, and hid)

Apt-get couldn't find any of them

I have a fresh installation of debian woody 3.0r1 taken from a 7 CD set

I just did a search of debian packages and none of these missing modules
turned up

What distribution are you using?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Brian C. Dilley
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Turetsky
Subject: Re: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

Here's my lsmod and XF86Config, i use musedev and a usb mouse works
great 
for me.  The important modules are mousedev, usbmouse, hid, input,
usb-uhci, 
and usbcore.

lsmod first:

.:[brian@ ~]:[ lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P  
emu10k162856   0
ac97_codec  9256   0 [emu10k1]
sound  52308   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore   3172   7 [emu10k1 sound]
af_packet   8776   1 (autoclean)
NVdriver  989728  10
ide-scsi7632   0
smbfs  33360   9
tulip  39232   1
mousedev3924   1
usbmouse1912   0 (unused)
hid17476   0 (unused)
input   3008   0 [mousedev usbmouse hid]
usb-uhci   20876   0 (unused)
usbcore54304   0 [usbmouse hid usb-uhci]
sr_mod 12792   0 (autoclean) (unused)
scsi_mod   50868   2 (autoclean) [ide-scsi sr_mod]
cdrom  25856   0 (autoclean) [sr_mod]
unix   13928  72 (autoclean)
.:[brian@ ~]:[ 




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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-10 Thread Egbert Eich
David Turetsky writes:
 > I have tried /dev/input/mouseN where N = 0...4 to no apparent effect
 > 

How about /dev/usbmouseN, N={0,1,...}

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RE: [XFree86] XFConfig requirements for kbd and mouse

2003-02-10 Thread David Turetsky
Well, no... (because I don't see any /dev/usbmouseX entries), but in the
spirit of your suggestion, I did try /dev/usb/mouse[0-1] with no effect

I think it is pretty clear (which may simply mean my mind has found a
dead space) that I am missing some usb drivers, but I was intrigued to
find a long list of mouseN, scannerN, and lpN, N=0..15 entries in
/dev/usb

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David Turetsky writes:
 > I have tried /dev/input/mouseN where N = 0...4 to no apparent effect
 > 

How about /dev/usbmouseN, N={0,1,...}



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