Though Id make these available again, started about 4 or 5 years ago i
think hence quality aint super...but nice tracks tho...
Classics not Classics 1 - http://www.acid-house.net/CnC1.mp3
Joe louis - My Own - target - 86
M + M - I wanna House - missing - 1987
Joe R Lewis - Seperate Ways
Not sure it had a name as such, more of a dj tool. The track is actually just
those words, no beats or melody, an acapella in fact.
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From: 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 June 2008 09:14
To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May
what secret government organization is bankrolling you're obviously
very expensive record collection???
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Though Id make these available again, started about 4 or 5 years ago i
think hence quality aint super...but nice tracks
I bought most of these before they skyrocketed in price...a couple were
a bit pricey obviously...
p
Frank Glazer wrote:
what secret government organization is bankrolling you're obviously
very expensive record collection???
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah I realised it was an acapella, but assumed with limited numbers being
sold, it would have been titled.
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From: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May 2000 DEMF
Hi list,
Im looking to do some digging so my question is whether anyone can
recommend some music with a strong association to one of the elements?
There is a definite detroit association with one of the elements,
(ahem), but also Strand, Phonophani - earth, Derek Carr, Dave Angel,
Juan? - space
Drexciya = Water
Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 June 2008 15:06
To: 313 List
Subject: (313) Four elements on techno production
Hi list,
Im looking to do some
Can anyone provide any other 'element' tips
Have a read at Crowley's 777...
m
Odd one. You don't just mean titles then? You seem to be looking for,
now don't take this the wrong way, tenuous verbal connections. Can you
be more specific?
I thought of 'Firekeeper' but maybe that's not the sort of thing you
mean ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know if Sean Deason is reading 313 right now, but I believe he
made a series of track named after the Noble Gases. I don't think he
ever released it though.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list,
Im looking to do some digging so my question is whether
makes me think of enya. and cheddar cheese.
On 6/2/08, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know if Sean Deason is reading 313 right now, but I believe he
made a series of track named after the Noble Gases. I don't think he
ever released it though.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:05 AM,
But really, what doesn't make you think of Enya and cheddar cheese?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
makes me think of enya. and cheddar cheese.
Earth: Underground Resistance, The Digger, The Mole
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list,
Im looking to do some digging so my question is whether anyone can
recommend some music with a strong association to one of the elements?
There is a definite detroit
Hmmm. Not tenuous titles, more the feel of the music.
Surely you agree that Drexciya somehow sounds 'watery'. I think in the
same way Strand feels 'earthy' etc etc. Then again maybe Im just wigging
out :-(
p.s. Drexciya was the definite detroit association. 10 points Rob :-D
--
chuck
The Digger sounds good. Cant see owt on discogs though ?
Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
Earth: Underground Resistance, The Digger, The Mole
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list,
Im looking to do some digging so my question is whether anyone can
recommend some music
Elements Vol One and Two in the bag
Michael Kuszynski wrote:
makes me think of enya. and cheddar cheese.
On 6/2/08, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know if Sean Deason is reading 313 right now, but I believe he
made a series of track named after the Noble Gases. I don't think
any particular flavor, tone, force, or style can be associated with an
element. a rough bass can be like water or fire or earth or air,
whether its a typhoon or a breeze. i think this post is a little
imaginary.
On 6/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm. Not tenuous titles, more
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Digger sounds good. Cant see owt on discogs though ?
Oops, I got a little mixed up. I thought it was a CJ Bolland alias,
but the release is called the Digger, and it's on Mole Records
(different from the Mole I said before, who has
Who else is feeling surreal?
-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:46 PM
To: 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Four elements on techno production
Indeed... a little imaginary
Crack is bad for you ;-)
Now give me a shovel i know
The Egyptian's had charts for certain musical keys and sounds, so did
the Mayan's - it's no more imaginary than Noah's Ark or Jesus banging
out 5000 loafs.
m
any particular flavor, tone, force, or style can be associated with
an
element. a rough bass can be like water or fire or
Sorry for the late review here but just some observations:
- Omar-S made the afterparty at Trenchtown. He spun a great set with
tons of classics - i believe he opened with pepe bradocks track
'life'? Of course, we had to stay until he dropped psychotic
photosynthesis. The crowd was really mixed
Indeed... a little imaginary
Crack is bad for you ;-)
Now give me a shovel i know there is a good bassline somewhere under
that tree
On 2 jun 2008, at 16:44, Michael Kuszynski wrote:
any particular flavor, tone, force, or style can be associated with an
element. a rough bass can be like
On 2 Jun 2008, at 16:55, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
You telling me there wasn't and he didn't?!?
Depends who you ask Ken ;)
m
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Egyptian's had charts for certain musical keys and sounds, so did the
Mayan's - it's no more imaginary than Noah's Ark or Jesus banging out 5000
loafs.
did anybody else get the basic channel remix of 5000 loafs? it
You telling me there wasn't and he didn't?!?
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From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:53 PM
To: 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Four elements on techno production
The Egyptian's had charts for certain musical keys and sounds, so did
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had
never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed.
That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit
techno would have existed even if
I think you're off base on what a house DJ is, I consider myself a
house DJ these days
and I think a lot of people who used to be more techno have now come back to the
house side of things, and there's plenty of that rich, textured,
deepness in proper
house sets.
It's just that there are a lot of
Ahem, to get back OT this question is about DETROIT and the Greek idea
of the FOUR ELEMENTS...
continue ;-)
Martin Dust wrote:
On 2 Jun 2008, at 16:55, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
You telling me there wasn't and he didn't?!?
Depends who you ask Ken ;)
m
remember that argument we were all having recently about whether
techno would have happened without kraftwerk? the comment that
sparked it was Juan and Kevin and Derrick might have had had some
difficulty without the Germans (this was in the context of who
belongs on a techno mount rushmore
To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had
never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed.
I am not interested in the debate a great deal, as the fantasy
scenario What if xyz...? debates don't seem productive IMO. I find
it moot. They did, and the belleville trio
Z'ev wrote a very interesting book on musical rhythms using Gematria
and ancient charts, if I remember correctly there is only one rhythm
that is total universal, and one sound...
m
On 2 Jun 2008, at 17:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ahem. I was actually only prepared to go back to the
Strange question ... Good in same time.
I'll go for this :
Wildtek = Savage techno, meaning like a lion in the jungle that can't be
captured...
Wildub = What was not expected from Wildtek.
Releases ?
Gareth Duprey - The Tempest (Unknown element travelling space)
Mitch Walcott - Titan (Famous
Hi Dimitri,
cheers. Thats spot on.
thanks
Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike wrote:
Strange question ... Good in same time.
I'll go for this :
Wildtek = Savage techno, meaning like a lion in the jungle that can't be
captured...
Wildub = What was not expected from Wildtek.
Releases ?
-Original Message-
From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 June 2008 18:10
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) reporting from Tokyo.. Theo
On a side note, the word from Berlin now is that people are
pretty sick / burnt out on the whole mnml techno thing and
the
This should be said: Techno is a lot bigger than Berlin-minimal, and
one could remain a Techno DJ and never touch a track from Richie or
Magda's USB drive. There are many DJs -- Claude Young, Dan Bell, Rob
Hood, Buzz Goree, Ken Karl Meier, Alan Oldham, Mike Huckaby come
immediately to mind --
around the world - reporting
yeah we noticed the same in amsterdam!
:-)
on the party tip
coming weekend you can stay 3 days in 11, Amsterdam (i will)
friday 6 Planet Delsin: Redshape (live), Don Williams, Vince Watson,
Delta Funktionen
saturday 7: Kerri Chandler, Melon
sunday 8: Francois
it's not an if. it's a statement of fact. juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk. he said it, he put it in writing,
it's a fact.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no logic in saying
Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no logic in
saying something would be this way if...
You can say that kraftwerk had no influence, or that they influenced
but not as much as people say or that they did influenced a lot.
These 3 cases should lead us to a real debate.
So, the fact you claim to be true is: Kraftwerk has nothing to do
with the creation of the detroit techno. Right?
On 02/06/2008, at 14:54, Frank Glazer wrote:
it's not an if. it's a statement of fact. juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk. he said it, he put it in
Frank Glazer wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had
never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed.
That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit
techno would have
Frank Glazer wrote:
all i'm saying, and all i've ever said, is that juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk. why is that so hard to understand?
It isn't.
What makes it illogical is the notion that he somehow escaped the
influence, whether or not he had heard the band.
It's not hard to understand. Nevertheless i still see kraftwerk in
detroit techno. Juan got the Kraftwerk in second hand through other
styles, like electro.
I mean no offense, but what is really hard to understand, and
pointless, is this:
it proves that Detroit
techno would have existed
all i'm saying, and all i've ever said, is that juan atkins was making
techno before he heard kraftwerk. why is that so hard to understand?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, the fact you claim to be true is: Kraftwerk has nothing to do with the
creation of
Most techno artists / musicians would regard Computer World as more
influential than Autobahn.
The progression from Autobahn to CW was a great one and made it closer
to dance music which was the incubation phase for techno. I think of
Autobahn being closer to Neu / Can with synthesizers
Oh please let's not argue this over again.
Just because Juan heard Numbers after he started making tracks means
nothing. Numbers was on Computer World, which was released in
1982. Computer World was KW's 7th LP. Autobahn had been a hit in
the US in 1974. It isn't likely that Juan Atkins was
But Juan Atkins said numerous times that he was listenning to the 'Electrifying
Mojo' radio show right ? Way before starting recording 'Clear' or 'Alleys Of
Your Mind'...
Not only Juan, Derrick, Kevin, Jeff, Alan, all a generation listenned to him.
Mojo played a lot of Kraftwerk music ... It's
On a side note, the word from Berlin now is thatpeople are pretty sick /
burnt out on the whole mnmltechno thing and the trend is really going
towardsplaying proper house music.
Now what are we supposed to hate on?!?! ;)
_
Keep
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM, John Sokolowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now what are we supposed to hate on?!?! ;)
Undoubtedly this new house music will be less real.
--
matt kane's brain
techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
capoeira in boston
For reason that I won't start on here on the list, I didn't go and see
Mr Hawtin and friends in SF on Friday night... anyone from the Bay go?
Highlights? Lowlights?
Thx,
P.
--
--
Southern Outpost
Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin
The whole argument is pointless. Trans Europe Express and
Autobahn were huge hits on black radio. I know because I heard
them a lot on the major DC stations (WOL and WOOK) at the
time. Same in Detroit I'm sure. Whether Juan was influenced
directly or not is for him to say. Influence could mean
That's exactly what i was saying to Frank. I didn't understand what
you're asking.
But, i agree with you. This argument is pointless. And more pointless
is to imagine a world where techno exists and kraftwerk doesn't.
The kraftwerk sound signature can be heard, clearly, in many detroit
Clarence! Clarence! Help us, Clarence! Get us back! Get us back, We don't
care what happens to us! Get us back to our Computer World and Pocket
Calculator! Help us Clarence, please! Please! We wanna bike again. We wanna
be showroom dummies again. Please, God, let us compute again!
MEK
Kowalsky
-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 June 2008 18:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: David Powers; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) reporting from Tokyo.. Theo
This should be said: Techno is a lot bigger than
Berlin-minimal, and one could remain a
I just wish Richie would just bust out of that minimal mold and play
great techno sets like he used to before the haircut. ;)
on that tip, I thought i'd slip in a link to a mix that i posted last
year... the title of the mix is def on topic !
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBZ-NbmeMiN8RESlwc0CQDP5ntcAD9121T2O0
full respect goes out to this innovator - thank you for making rock n roll
MEK
erm..., the haircut is history:
http://www.de-bug.de/mag/5602.html
could be a leftfield-cosmic-bearded-disco-uknowwhatimsayin dj. but he
isn't. not yet.
c*
Southern Outpost schrieb:
I just wish Richie would just bust out of that minimal mold and play
great techno sets like he used to before
engrish prease?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
erm..., the haircut is history:
http://www.de-bug.de/mag/5602.html
could be a leftfield-cosmic-bearded-disco-uknowwhatimsayin dj. but he isn't.
not yet.
c*
Southern Outpost schrieb:
I just wish
I love that square guitar sounds. RIP.
On 02/06/2008, at 18:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBZ-
NbmeMiN8RESlwc0CQDP5ntcAD9121T2O0
full respect goes out to this innovator - thank you for making rock
n roll
MEK
do mean my posting or the linked article? :)
Michael Kuszynski schrieb:
engrish prease?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
erm..., the haircut is history:
http://www.de-bug.de/mag/5602.html
could be a leftfield-cosmic-bearded-disco-uknowwhatimsayin dj.
Just generally commenting on how I don't speak German, have never been
to Berlin, and was born in Poland.
I meant the article.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do mean my posting or the linked article? :)
Michael Kuszynski schrieb:
engrish prease?
i just wanted to point at his different look.
the article is about his minimize your impact campaign, more or less
in the same vain as this short interview in english:
http://www.urb.com/features/454/RichieHawtinTheEcoinTechno.php
sorry for being so OT. now back to theo. in the D:
It might be off topic, but it really is necessary to
mention it. A great musician, and a great rock
roller for sure.
Jeff
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBZ-NbmeMiN8RESlwc0CQDP5ntcAD9121T2O0
full respect goes out to this innovator - thank you
for
can anybody ID the acid cut that theo is playing in that video??? WANT
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i just wanted to point at his different look.
the article is about his minimize your impact campaign, more or less in
the same vain as this short
I like this quote (as debatable as some may think it is) and I think it
does apply to the Detroit innovators as well:
Growing up, Diddley said he had no musical idols, and he wasn't entirely
pleased that others drew on his innovations.
I don't like to copy anybody. Everybody tries to do what I
i just bumped into someone here last nite who was at theo. confirms he
played to 3.30 PM and just kept pumping out harder stuff too
apparently. and he looked wasted (quite rightly so) at the end!
Dont know any of the trax... well... cant think theo stuffed my
sleepign times and i ended up
co-signed. I see techno as an extension of disco and kw/td-style stuff.
there was nothing to be invented, we just (d)evolved
- Original Message -
From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: Re:
All of my guest show archives are available online. To get to them, visit
www.AntonBanks.com and click on Archive of Past Guests.
Planned guests for the next few weeks:
TBD - Rick Wade (www.yore-records.com, Harmonie Park)
CLICK THE LINK
A couple of years ago I learnt that the Fairlight synth, early
sampler, was created in Sydney (Fairlight is a suburb) so maybe
Sydney is the spiritual home of much of today's contemporary music
(scary!)
On 03/06/2008, at 3:52 AM, Kowalsky wrote:
Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you
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