grim reading:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/14/ford-chrysler-general-motors
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"We're not recyclers," he said of his countrymen. "We're consumers of
products."
the problem in a nutshell
MEK
Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/14/2008 09:06:49 AM:
> grim reading:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/14/ford-chrysler-general-motors
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"We're not recyclers," he said of his countrymen. "We're consumers of
products."
the pr
and all of my family there.
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> It's sad really.
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ve Detroit and all of my family there.
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>> It's sad really.
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:50, Michael Kuszynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you don't pay executives they will go run other companies who will.
Not always a bad thing.
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That's for the shareholder's and board of directors to decide, and if
it comes to it, the federal government which becomes a stakeholder if
they provide a capital injection in exchange for preferred shares
through the TARP program (which it doesn't look like it will happen).
And if the board of di
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lose out, I think Detroit would go under
As sad as it is for life in Detroit, the US auto industry has not exactly
learned any lessons from the 70's/80's when foreign cars started picking
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Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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If you don't pay executives they will go run other companies who will.
On Fri,
No, but I don't have to. I worked there for 31 years - 28 of it right
down on the assembly line. I know enough to say with authority that
nobody made that kind of cash unless he or she worked some hefty
overtime hours. On the 40 hours that I got most of the time, I pulled in
right around 40k a
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If you don't pay executives they will go run
I just want to ask the question -- do you think the banks that were
bailed out made better business decisions than the Big 3 over the last
decade?
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM, theREAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, but I don't have to. I worked there for 31 years - 28 of it right down
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The deeper questions are:
If you don't bail out the big american banks, will the financial
system collapse?
If you don't bail out the american auto makers, will the auto industry collapse?
Yes. No.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just want to ask the qu
The deeper questions are:
If you don't bail out the big american banks, will the financial
system collapse?
If you don't bail out the american auto makers, will the auto industry collapse?
Yes. No.
And you know this how?
Too bad people with so much clarity of vision haven't been in charg
financial sector has made just as many bad
decisions as the automakers have.
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Are you talking net or gross? My friend started working for GM around 2000 and his hourly wage was around $18-$20 and I was jealous at the time.
Net, of course. And please don't take my remarks as being in support of
SUV's in general or stupid mfg/marketing decisions made by the big 3.
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Correction - I meant gross. W/o overtime, I pulled in between 40-45 k
per year.
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theREAL wrote:
Are you talking net or gross? My friend started working for GM
around 2000 and his hourly wage was around $18-$20 and I was jealous
at
I just hate thinking of GM arriving at congress with their hats in their
hands stepping out from their private jets. I mean for real?
A
On Wed, November 19, 2008 3:25 pm, J.C. wrote:
> On 18 November 2008, Dan Sicko wrote:
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>> I just want to ask the question -- do you think the banks that were
Maybe it is time for 'change'
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:46 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just hate thinking of GM arriving at congress with their hats in their
> hands stepping out from their private jets. I mean for real?
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> On Wed, November 19, 2008 3:25 pm, J.C. wrote:
>> On 1
Joel Gajewski wrote:
As sad as it is for life in Detroit, the US auto industry has not
exactly learned any lessons from the 70's/80's when foreign cars
started picking up in terms of sales. Plus, they neglect the American
market in terms of style, performance and most importantly quality.
Th
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