apparently they sold 6 million copies of the outkast album this year
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From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:49 AM
To: 313
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> > Then you expose one group to one set of stimuli, and expo
> > Then you expose one group to one set of stimuli, and expose the other
> > group to some sort of placebo.
comparing hip hop to a band like placebo is a silly idea.
(stupid joke)
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> From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 December 2003 04:07
> >
> > It's a bit of a chicken'n'egg question I suppose.
>
> Not in this casethe power of the experiment is that you're able to
> ferrett out the causal element...
>
> Take a po
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Brendan Nelson wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 21 December 2003 06:50
> >
> > There's been some attempt to actually test this empiricallyto see
> > whether exposure to rap music (or other "aggressiv
> -Original Message-
> From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 December 2003 06:50
>
> There's been some attempt to actually test this empiricallyto see
> whether exposure to rap music (or other "aggressive art forms" like heavy
> metal) has an impact on how pe
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> > Just trying to keep these three ideas (blacks are american, blacks are the
> > other, pop music is an economic product) in my head
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From: "Lester Kenyatta Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Cyclone Louise Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Detroit"
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Kent williams wrote:
> I didn't mean to dog anyone in the discussion for being white and daring to
> discuss the issue, if that's the impression I gave.
>
> I just think there's a discussion to be had, placing misogyny in hip hop
> lyrics in the context of the unique problems
I didn't mean to dog anyone in the discussion for being white and daring to
discuss the issue, if that's the impression I gave.
I just think there's a discussion to be had, placing misogyny in hip hop
lyrics in the context of the unique problems facing black americans -- too
many men in jail, too
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>Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 6:30 AM
>
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, spacecrusher wrote:
>> lets also point out that for all the misogynism in hip hop,
>
> It comes in many flavors -- straight up women-hating, parody of straight
> up wome
hat song
>>> when she plays the album on her own; she says, "damn, i
>>> can understand he's mad, but why does he have to say
>>> 'bitch' so much in this song? the point was made 20
>>> 'bitches' ago!" i agree with her) diff
>> Let's be frank: the truth is that sexism is not deemed as offensive
>> cuturally as racism, accuse a racist of racism and he will get defensive,
>> accuse a male of sexism and it's laughed off. I always wondered about that.
>
> Let me get this straight---are you equating all males to sexists?
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, spacecrusher wrote:
> lets also point out that for all the misogynism in hip hop,
It comes in many flavors -- straight up women-hating, parody of straight
up women-hating, ironic, comic, critique of misogyny -- and it comes down
to who's saying it, why they're saying it, and w
skips that song
>> when she plays the album on her own; she says, "damn, i
>> can understand he's mad, but why does he have to say
>> 'bitch' so much in this song? the point was made 20
>> 'bitches' ago!" i agree with her) different strokes
&g
sexuality, that's
> all. (not meaning to drag this thread on and on, just
> wanted to clarify what i had said--pardon the
> pun--below) :) that's all from me on outkast's lyrics,
> i promise :)
> take care. andrew duke
>
>>
>>
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from me on outkast's lyrics,
i promise :)
take care. andrew duke
>
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Subject: (313) Re: hey ya?
I'm under the impression that it came out promo-only as
a double A side with "I Like The Way You Move", both as
album cuts, ie no remixes or anything. I'm a huge fan
of Outkast's music but I wish they would talk about
w
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:37:44 +1100, "Cyclone Louise
Wehner" wrote:
> I started that thread. It's still my album of the
year.
> ;)
> I think there was some great R&B/hip-hop music this
> year, like Common (OK,
> we got the release a couple of months late), NERD and
I
> loved Martina Topley
> Bird's
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