The statement links the bootleggers race with their actions. Thus implying
that because they were pasty-white British they've gone and done something
as backstabbing as bootlegging a record, which fulfills the first listed
criteria in the given definition.
It was racist.
The little 'joke' about
From the Merriam-Webster dictionary: (www.m-w.com)
Main Entry: racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a
particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
Were KDJ's comments of
: Anya Stang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:06 AM
Subject: (313) handbags.
> Before chucking mud at Dixon, and at each other,
> perhaps we could have some clarification as to where
> and who the statement originates fro
So was the handbag leather ? ;)
Just got some fresh records in the mail today:
Headman : It Rough - Chicken Lips Remix - 12. Have y'all heard this? Sounds
like a lost Traxx record updated. Nice!
Joshua : Hustlin' EP - Select. This is the first release on his new label. I
know there are some fans
> Before chucking mud at Dixon, and at each other,
> perhaps we could have some clarification
My thoughts exactly... can everyone chill out. You know how the internet is.
Unless I heard someone say something or it was a direct quote, it's all
assumptions stacked on assumptions and false concl
Before chucking mud at Dixon, and at each other,
perhaps we could have some clarification as to where
and who the statement originates from?!
The tone of the discussion on here is in part almost as
disgraceful as the statement itself - which I do consider in
fact racist.
But I don't want to jump t
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:22 AM
Subject: (313) handbags
> Something nice to look forward to (at last)
>
> Artist:PITCH BLACK CITY FEAT. ROBERTA SWEED
> Title:Runaway
> Label:MAHOGANI MUSIC
>
> Catalog #:MAHOG 003Executive Producer: Kenneth Dixon J
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 8:36 a.m.
To: Jongsma, K.J.; 'rob'; Jongsma, K.J.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) handbags
all of this "race is an issue" bullshxt is just that. Race
is, and always will be as much of an issue as you make it.
nal Message-
> From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:08 PM
> To: Jongsma, K.J.
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) handbags
>
>
> I'm sorry you feel this way KJ. Music is a sound and
can't
> been seen, so
> hence
of course it is. the fact that this is getting so much
"air" is suprising to me. the fxcked up ATTITUDES of some
of the detroit producers is shocking. absolutely contrary
to what the music has come to stand for with the audience.
all the more reason to go to a show and see someone you've
neve
- Original Message -
From: "Andy Kellman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: (313) handbags
> It's odd to me that we can accuse him of assuming things (the race of the
> bootleggers, etc), and ye
Hi label, his words or he at least okays them - I would have thought.
>-Original Message-
>From: Andy Kellman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:59 PM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) handbags
>
>
>So it has been determined that
We've all got our handbags in a twist again over this issue haven't we? We
all said we wouldn't but we've all fallen for the same ruse as last year -
someone says something controversial (to me it seems quite deliberate) and
then the bad feeling ricochets around before exhausting itself.
We all ag
So it has been determined that Dixon was the person who wrote the blurb?
No one else could have possibly written it?
It's odd to me that we can accuse him of assuming things (the race of the
bootleggers, etc), and yet the majority of this discussion has been based on
the assumption that Dixon wro
ing disparaging things
about white bootleggers.
-Original Message-
From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:20 PM
To: Otto Koppius; 313
Subject: Re: (313) handbags
>>> "Pasty-White British Scum"? I ain't no bootlegger, but that
Rob wrote in response to KJ:
I'm sorry you feel this way KJ. Music is a sound and can't been seen, so
hence has no colour you can like it or not.
As for "Race is always an issue..." I don't know what colour you are? It
makes no difference to me either it's what you've got to say and do
>>> "Pasty-White British Scum"? I ain't no bootlegger, but that offends.
>
> Why?
>
> If "Pasty-White British Scum" would be referring to football hooligans,
> would you be equally offended and defensive?
The bottom line is the 'pasty-white' part of the comment was unnecessary and
basically raci
(too bad we can't tell 43 that the next regime target should be
all the pasty-white British scum who bootleg Detroit's musical underground
-- the ironies are just too much to take).
How does he know the bootleggers are white?? Is it because they're from
Britain?? Or is he making the assumption
Nice to see another private message pop-up on this list, how nice of you
look better next time will you!
> -Original Message-
> From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:08 PM
> To: Jongsma, K.J.
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:
I will choose not to
listen to it next time, as I feel you have been misguided in life.
I hope you have a nice day though :O)
Peace.
-Original Message-
From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 15:36
To: 'rob'
Subject: RE: (313) handbags
>
i agree.
there is no place on this list for those comments. i wont be buying this
guy's records in a hurry.
ab
-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:28 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) handbag
Any nation that lets people tuck their pants into their socks has something
wrong with it :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 15:53
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) handbags
> > "Pasty-White British Scum&q
2003 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: (313) handbags
>
> > > "Pasty-White British Scum"? I ain't no bootlegger, but that offends.
>
> >Why?
>
> >If "Pasty-White British Scum" would be referring to football hooligans,
> >would you be equally offended and d
--Original Message-
From: rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Paul Hudson; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) handbags
Hello,
The killer here is that it has taken years for music to pull people of all
nations together and its ignorant comments like this th
> > "Pasty-White British Scum"? I ain't no bootlegger, but that offends.
>Why?
>If "Pasty-White British Scum" would be referring to football hooligans,
>would you be equally offended and defensive?
>He's obviously not referring to all British people, so why not put on your
>Teflon suit and let
Brendan Nelson:
Maybe it would have been good if there was no racial slur, and I would
also have been pleased not to find a joke about actually invading this
country...
Well, at least invading the UK was a joke, for the Netherlands they've
actually made it legal to invade us:
http://frwebga
in the UK that buy tons of "Detroit's
musical underground"
I hope colour does not come into it again, music has no colour!
Peace
-Original Message-
From: Paul Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:46
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) handbags
Pa
> -Original Message-
> From: Otto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 March 2003 14:40
>
> Or if it's the politically-incorrect language: would you
> rather have him
> saying "Tsk, tsk, you naughty people of unknown skin color
> living in the
> UK. You must not bootleg my records."
M
Paul/Alex:
And where would Detroits musical underground be without the 'pasty-white
British scum' who worship the music? Not pressing up limited records to
sell at an inflated price in order to get rich quick, thats for sure.
So you're saying he has got no right to be pissed off at the bootl
Particularly offensive when 'Pasty-White British' are busy fighting and
dieing for the current 'regime target'.
And where would Detroits musical underground be without the 'pasty-white
British scum' who worship the music? Not pressing up limited records to
sell at an inflated price in order to ge
Something nice to look forward to (at last)
Artist:PITCH BLACK CITY FEAT. ROBERTA SWEED
Title:Runaway
Label:MAHOGANI MUSIC
Catalog #:MAHOG 003Executive Producer: Kenneth Dixon Jr. Second release
on Kenny (aka Moodymann)'s new post-KDJ imprint. The last one, by Amp Dog
Knig
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