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What ifthe sample was used in a_techno_tune that everyone here thought
was really cool (not some cheesy trance track), BUT the artist still
didn't get it cleared from UR? Let's say it came out on a white
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:09:02 +0100
Its not just the monetary value of the UR sample they illegally used, its
the fact that this is the second time the majors have tried
Todd Smith wrote:
I'd be more upset about Josh Wink ripping French Kiss than about some lame
trance
act snaking a couple of synth stabs.
todd
yeah, i agree. why did he had to make such a rip off with with that
tune. it sounds awful.
don't fix it if it ain't broken
imho the whole
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I heard the track a few times on dutch radio and all these guys did
is sampled one little stab from UR's 'Sonic Destroyer' and played a
completely different tune with it on top of a lame trance track.
Sounds like that come
are unbelievable.
spread the word - peace The Mercenary/UR
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From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED
Aaaah!!!
Maa!!!
This requires major action!!! Cornelius, what should we do?
John
As seen on the NME-site:
Top 40 Dance Singles for the week ending Sunday, August 14 2000.
Last Week This Week
Subject: [313] OUTRAGE! When action
Aaaah!!!
Maa!!!
This requires major action!!! Cornelius, what should we do?
John
As seen on the NME-site:
Top 40 Dance Singles for the week ending Sunday, August 14
What's this about a mysterious video for Revenge. by Rolando with UR
cruising around Detroit in lowriders - or is someone playing with me?
At any rate, more than one person has mentioned this to me now.
Re: trance Jaguar, maybe it's time for phase two - the unleashing of the
digital wasps,
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In case someone missed my point: the f***ing Jaguar ripoff is in the British
top3! Yeah, it is time to burn, time to burn this sh*t to the ground!
As seen on the NME-site:
Top 40 Dance Singles for the week ending Sunday, August 14 2000.
Last Week This Week
As far as I knew the trance remix was on the Dance
Division label...
cya later,
Nick(Dj Pacific:)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In case someone missed my point: the f***ing
Jaguar ripoff is in the British
top3! Yeah, it is time to burn, time to burn
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Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Umm, John, are you sure we're talking about the
same track?
I listened to some realaudio samples on
www.juno.co.uk and the bbc.co.uk
site and it doesn't sound like the Jaguar ripoff
: donderdag 17 augustus 2000 16:22
To: Simon Walley
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:Re: [313] OUTRAGE! When action
I reckon the only thing we can do... is what we did
with the jaguar rip off and that's boycott the label
and artist and all
Simon Walley wrote:
Its not that Jaguar rip-off, its some wack trance track that samples very
heavily from X-101s _Sonic Destroyer_ (the 'rave' stabs at the beginning).
God knows how many rave-records were there that sampled the infamous
chant from UR. That African-type tribal WAR-chant...
From: Jan Claeyssens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I reckon the guys at UR should take them to court and demand compensation,
and for the rest can we close the subject, it has only been like 6 months
that we 've been discussing this.
Its not just the monetary
Its not just the monetary value of the UR sample they illegally used, its
the fact that this is the second time the majors have tried to screw UR
over. There should never have been a first time. And not just because its UR
- this could be any label we enjoy talking about on this list.
what about
I reckon the only thing we can do... is what we did
with the jaguar rip off and that's boycott the label
and artist and all of their products, encouraging
others to do so along the way... That's the way I see
it... They need to know that crime doesn't pay.
Just so you all know, Sony owns
I believe the saying goes:
save the world, kill yourself
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yup v.true... it would lose some of it's underground
status but ppl listen to this trance rip off and think
it's the actual jaguar tune...
I wouldn't actually mind the original going onto the
mainstream chart... The fact is that people need to
give respect where it is due. This is one of the
À (At) 15:44 + 17/08/0, Simon Walley écrivait (wrote) :
what about artists and labels we enjoy talking about on this list who have
used illegaly samples from other artists, sometimes artists signed on
majors ? :)
But thats okay :)
No, thats a good point. The difference is that (generally
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To: Simon Walley
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
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I reckon the only thing we can do... is what we did
with the jaguar rip off and that's boycott
What's particularly amazing about this
(now the second time UR seems to be
involved in sampling/covering issues with
a major label) is the majors managed to find
probably the techno producers most opposed
to such practicesthe irony here is enormous.
If nothing else, it should be consolation
What's particularly amazing about this
(now the second time UR seems to be
involved in sampling/covering issues with
a major label) is the majors managed to find
probably the techno producers most opposed
to such practices
I haven't heard the track in question, so I don't know
I heard the track a few times on dutch radio and all these guys did
is sampled one little stab from UR's 'Sonic Destroyer' and played a
completely different tune with it on top of a lame trance track.
Sounds like that come standard on every cheap dance gear and the
producers of this track did
I'd be more upset about Josh Wink ripping French Kiss than about some lame
trance
act snaking a couple of synth stabs.
todd
Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:
I heard the track a few times on dutch radio and all these guys did
is sampled one little stab from UR's 'Sonic Destroyer' and played a
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Todd Smith wrote:
I'd be more upset about Josh Wink ripping French Kiss than about some lame
trance
act snaking a couple of synth stabs.
todd
Yeah... But at least Wink had permission!
Not to mention, I kinda like it. *shrugg*
derek.
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:51:39 -0500 (CDT)
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Todd Smith wrote:
I'd be more upset about Josh Wink ripping French Kiss than about some
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