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RE: (313) Re: Galoppierende
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Techno
so did anyone else think that galoppierende
zuversicht live set was a waste of listening time?
i thought it was a great set, actually. i was there for
the show, which was great, so maybe i'm more
partial to it for having been there. it was actually a
good techno night here in San Francisco
so did anyone else think that galoppierende
zuversicht live set was a waste of listening time?
i thought it was a great set, actually. i was there for
the show, which was great, so maybe i'm more
partial to it for having been there. it was actually a
good techno night here in San Francisco
you don't have to read what farley says about his musical development and
what got him into house 20 years after the fact - you can listen to it.
there are piles of his mixes from the early/mid 80s on deep house pages.
james
www.jbucknell.com
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Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende
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Techno
On Jul 5, 2005, at 8:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
early hip hop is rapping over disco records. 'good times' - that's a
disco
record.
hell, they even rap about going to discos and dancing.
snip
the stuff on tuff city, early spoonie g, patrick adams and peter brown
stuff. t-ski 'catch a
I was doing a little bit of net research on Ron Hardy over the
weekend because of all the DJs on the Deep House Page,
his mixes (and there are fortunately a lot of them!) really hit
the sweet spot for me.
I don't think there was any one moment, DJ or record that
started house, it just evolved out
techno is an
offshoot of chicago house?
Ok, I didn't read the article and am prepared to accept from you lot
that it's duff, but the above is at least partly correct, non?
k
I was doing a little bit of net research on Ron Hardy over the
weekend because of all the DJs on the Deep House Page,
his mixes (and there are fortunately a lot of them!) really hit
the sweet spot for me.
oh oooh oh. now then. ron hardy is my absolute FAVOURITE dj I've
never seen. ha. I
Ken wrote:
techno is an offshoot of chicago house?
Ok, I didn't read the article and am prepared to
accept from you lot
that it's duff, but the above is at least partly
correct, non?
Yes. As has been amply demonstrated here in the past
day, there is undeniably a strong connection.
I was
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Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
Ken wrote:
techno is an offshoot of chicago house?
Ok, I didn't read the article and am prepared to
accept from you lot
that it's duff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
early hip hop is rapping over disco records. 'good times' - that's a disco
record.
hell, they even rap about going to discos and dancing. the first thing that
super rhymes does when he arrives on earth is head to the disco ...i went
to studio 54 but they wouldn't even
jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the
worst music journalism i've ever read.
the article is pretty much pointless, and basically
only good to point out how misinformed the author is
(techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is an
offshoot of chicago house?)
--- Fred Heutte
Techno post-dates Chicago House; Dan Sicko mentions in Techno Rebels
that Derrick May and others among the originators made frequent trips
to Chicago in the 80s to get records. Maybe 'offshoot' doesn't do
justice to the creativity of Detroit artists, but it's not like
there's no connection
i think my email server ate the original post. can i get the link
to the article?
tom
-- Original Message --
From: dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:41:00 -0700 (PDT)
jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the
worst music
yeah fair... massive connections between house and techno, and that is
the way i like it too! But just for the record on a historical
timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like A Number of Names and
Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from european sounds than they
did chicago
yeah, spot on in my book. (and a point i already
attempted to communicate to the author of that
article.)
of course there's cross-pollination throughout the
history, but there is a difference between the machine
funk heritage and the disco heritage.
--- Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I stand corrected; I didn't remember what year Clear and Shari
Vari came out.
As another data point -- when I asked Kevin Saunderson about the
large number of House, and particularly Deep House DJs that were
booked at Movement in 2004, his response was we don't really see
house and techno as
..
reconstructing history is as tricky as predicting future=)
it's mostly exciting to dig your roots for sure. it seems there have
been a major sonic explosion around the globe, probably due to new way
of composing as electronic instruments became widely available. although
current
Kent Williams wrote:
It reminds me a bit too of the stuff written about early hip hop --
people like Grandmaster Flash thought of what they were doing as
making their own kind of disco. Nearly 30 years on, any commonality
between Disco and Hip Hop would seem unlikely to people who don't know
in some ways, you're totally right (and for the
record, i'm not in any way doubting that you know what
you're talking about)-- the boundaries of genre,
especially for the prototypes, are pretty hazy and
tend to be post-facto critical handles rather than
distinctions intended by the artists
-- Original Message --
From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in
it's
heart
interestingly, in those interviews in the acid comps on soul jazz,
i think its farley who talks about not being into
-- Original Message --
From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was into disco in the 70s and when I first heard hiphop I
didn't see
any commonality between it and disco.
I still don't see the connection between early hiphop and disco,
unless
the comment
And Adonis- and as i recall from articles many years ago, Larry
Heard- and I can ASSURE you Mad Mike is right into Rush (Neil Peart)
and various other seriously unfashionable Rock outfits.
cheers
Jason
On 5 Jul 2005, at 23:01, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
-- Original Message
And Adonis- and as i recall from articles many years ago, Larry Heard-
and I can ASSURE you Mad Mike is right into Rush (Neil Peart) and
various other seriously unfashionable Rock outfits.
Mike's a big axe man tho aint he Jason? Hardly surprising he's into that
sh1t, still - I bet my
interestingly, in those interviews in the acid comps on soul jazz
are these good tom? i was thinking about buying the cds to get the sleeve
notes. they're by tim lawrence right (?).
are they long?
I can't WAIT for his book on Chicago in the 80's.
alex
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
are these good tom? i was thinking about buying the cds to get
the sleeve
notes. they're by tim lawrence right (?).
are they long?
I can't WAIT for his book on Chicago in the 80's.
they cover the sleeves of
Speaking from afar, since I live in Portland, SF is my first
musical home (and Detroit the second) . . .
I'm sorry, that article is just plain bad and while the SF Weekly
has gone downhill since they were bought by the New Times
chain, this is far below their threshhold.
In fact, while techno is
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