Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-17 Thread MuSiCJuNkiE
In a message dated 03/16/2000 9:28:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, now who's messing around with names?... ;) .John. damn 2 mailing lists now with threads about name spelling..well this isn't as bad as the other...derek may from canada and derrick may from

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-17 Thread DJT1000
In a message dated 3/16/00 8:41:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: damn 2 mailing lists now with threads about name spelling..well this isn't as bad as the other...derek may from canada and derrick may from detroit heh go figure How about Ritchie Hawtin ? a.

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-16 Thread bart wolff
Or Dave Clarke You mean d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.dave clark :) B - Out __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-16 Thread Dave Clark
On 16 Mar 00, at 14:32, bart wolff wrote: Or Dave Clarke You mean d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.dave clark :) I'm Dave Clark. Spell his damn name with an 'e' like it's meant to be spelled. Once n for all, i'm not english, and I don't own bush. :-) Dave

RE: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-16 Thread John Bush
I'm Dave Clark. Spell his damn name with an 'e' like it's meant to be spelled. Once n for all, i'm not english, and I don't own bush. Okay, now who's messing around with names?... ;) .John. (who never wants to be known as The Bushman or Bushy-tale ever again...) (and no George W. jokes

RE: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-10 Thread Batory, Jason
Fuck art, let's dance. Fuck dance, let's art. Take your pick, or have both (my preference). It's fascinating that this discussion is taking place just as Jeff Mills' gig here in Perth has been confirmed for April to take place in the State Art Gallery! So yeah Bill, we'll have both, literally

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Cyborg K
at the same time. Out of the ashes we will rise, we will rise again. Original Message Follows From: Shane from PLURkids [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass??? Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:23:17 PST When Carl Craig performed Paperclip People live for me

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread DJT1000
Before I get going, I'd like to ask for any recommendations on the best tribal techno records/producers out there right now, things that are deep, dark, and danceable... Oliver Ho, Christian Smith, G-Flame, Joel Mull (his b-sides), Marco Carola, Chris McCormack, The new Hardgroove double-pack,

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread g
I like the supercompressed European house/techno thing that's happening right now. hell yes.

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Minimaltek
In a message dated 3/8/00 6:06:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Detroit is completely finished making good techno aside from Jaguar. Would you care to explain?? Techno in detroit seems as alive as ever and by no means finished..

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Dave Clark
Hello. On 8 Mar 00, at 21:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now. Detroit is completely finished making good techno aside from Jaguar. ??? What's with this blanket statement? Do you really believe this? Aren't you from Detroit, anyway? I immensely respect your work and the work of artists

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Sean Creen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/8/00 6:06:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Detroit is completely finished making good techno aside from Jaguar. Would you care to explain?? Techno in detroit seems as alive as ever and by no means finished.. It very

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread hans kaufmann
I have to agree. If you put enough pretty colors on a monster flyer. you could throw a giant 10,000 head techno only party (as long as you have one room full of ferngully 303 preset hell and kick drums over pop synth riff remixes), while trying to do a techno based format for big people clubs has

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Minimaltek
In a message dated 3/9/00 8:35:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, DJT1000 writes: Sean, THANK YOU. Nice to to see somebody's got good common sense. Minimaltek, read this; I'm noticing points have to made with you several times before they sink in. Maybe I just disagree with you. Saying Detroit is

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread AeOtaku
In a message dated 3/9/00 2:40:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Saying Detroit is finished with techno makes no sense to me. SORRY I asked you to elaborate...it seems like a pretty big generalization and I think Jaguar is a great release for Rolando with many more to

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread William VanLoo
And another thing - once you're famous, does that mean you don't have to create danceable music anymore? It means you don't have to create danceable music if you don't want to. Witness Richie Hawtin - the Concept series and Consumed, specifically. After years and years of being successful

RE: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Renegade Rhythms
I would say we should push the boundaries as far as the boundaries will go Maybe Jeff Mills used to be good but I feel he's surpassed by the likes of Claude Young. Jeff's too busy messing about making so called experimental tunes when he should be knocking dancefloor tunes together. How far

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread workz_uk
Clearly his hiphop past is reflected in his mixing. I saw him do stuff I've never seen a dj do before. You've obviously never heard of/seen Terrence Parker or Jeff Mills then! talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

RE: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass (???) Never heard of????

2000-03-08 Thread johno
. I once interviewed Jeff Mills (1996), but I didn't know it was him. After all I have never heard of him... ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ben Sims

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread DJT1000
In a message dated 3/8/00 8:16:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clearly his hiphop past is reflected in his mixing. I saw him do stuff I've never seen a dj do before. You've obviously never heard of/seen Terrence Parker or Jeff Mills then! Or Dave Clarke or Claude Young. a. (who doesn't

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Nick Walsh
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/8/00 8:16:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clearly his hiphop past is reflected in his mixing. I saw him do stuff I've never seen a dj do before. You've obviously never heard of/seen Terrence Parker or Jeff Mills then! Or

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread William VanLoo
Jeff's too busy messing about making so called experimental tunes when he should be knocking dancefloor tunes together. How far must we keep 'pushing the boundaries'? 'Til they fall down? Where do you get off telling Jeff Mills what he should be doing? Bill / dj marathon -- AppNet MidWest

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2000-03-08 Thread Joseph Ross Lynn IV
Jeff's too busy messing about making so called experimental tunes when he should be knocking dancefloor tunes together. How far must we keep 'pushing the boundaries'? Dance music isn't important unless its pushing boundaries. J. 'Til they fall down? Where do you get off telling

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread T Linder
Or Dave Clarke or Claude Young. a. (who doesn't have a hip-hop past) But can work out the doubles like a motherf•cker!! __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Nick Walsh
--- Joseph Ross Lynn IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff's too busy messing about making so called experimental tunes when he should be knocking dancefloor tunes together. How far must we keep 'pushing the boundaries'? Dance music isn't important unless its pushing boundaries.

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Joseph Ross Lynn IV
This is about art. Not stardom. Jeff Mills is an artist. his vision is his vision, and the reason he is so well known and respected is because his vision resonates so strongly with so many of us. I think he is trying to be true to himself, not get his face on MTV. Art is about a new

RE: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread johno
) Ben Sims kicks ass??? This is about art. Not stardom. Jeff Mills is an artist. his vision is his vision, and the reason he is so well known and respected is because his vision resonates so strongly with so many of us. I think he is trying to be true to himself, not get his face on MTV. Art

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread DJT1000
In a message dated 3/8/00 10:35:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or Dave Clarke or Claude Young. a. (who doesn't have a hip-hop past) But can work out the doubles like a motherf•cker!! Awww, shucks, anybody can do that. It's so easy I don't even do it anymore. =) a.

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Tom Churchill
Jeff Mills gets a lot of respect for his production though I don't think it's all that great. Maybe Jeff Mills used to be good but I feel he's surpassed by the likes of Claude Young. Jeff's too busy messing about making so called experimental tunes when he should be knocking dancefloor tunes

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Nick Walsh
As I've said twice already, I'm not having a go at Jeff's production or any forward thinking producers. Any TRUE forward thinking producers that is. I'm sure everyone realises how techno has previously taken flak because it's apparently easy to produce and that any joe can have a go. I'm not

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Shane from PLURkids
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:44:23 -0800 (PST), Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a lot of this experimental stuff is a load of parp. Few 'experimental' tunes actually push the boundaries forward. However, a lot of big names are getting respect for stuff that I could throw together... (I'm

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Otto Koppius
Joseph Ross Lynn IV wrote: Dance music isn't important unless its pushing boundaries. Dance music isn't important unless it makes people dance. Otto

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread Dissonance Electronic
Maybe Jeff Mills used to be good but I feel he's surpassed by the likes of Claude Young. Jeff's too busy messing about making so called experimental tunes when he should be knocking dancefloor tunes together. How far must we keep 'pushing the boundaries'? Are you on crack?

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread g
Maybe Jeff Mills used to be good but I feel he's surpassed by the likes of Claude Young. Jeff's too busy messing about making so called experimental tunes when he should be knocking dancefloor tunes together. How far must we keep 'pushing the boundaries'? Are you on crack? ...i posted a nice

Re: Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-08 Thread stephen
Joseph Ross Lynn IV wrote: This is about art. Not stardom. Jeff Mills is an artist. his vision is his vision, and the reason he is so well known and respected is because his vision resonates so strongly with so many of us. I think he is trying to be true to himself, not get his face on MTV. I

Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass!

2000-03-06 Thread Nick Craddock
Amen to that! Ben's an outstanding DJ - a real breath of fresh air. I saw him play a few months back and it was very apparent to me that I'd never seen anyone with a style like his. As John points out, he's very hip-hop influenced in the mix, but he's pretty subtle with it too - definitely