Okay several points here:
in response to you:
That's a tired old stereotype, why continue to generalize Swedish techno?
It's not too much to ask for people to be a little more specific with names
(more current names and labels) instead of Swedish techno sucks, it's too
monotonous and same
I thought there was an agreement on this list that all such music would be
referred to as banging loopers
;-)
Seems to conjure up images of bangers and mash for me for some reason...
hmmm...
Peter Leidy said:
I find the second definition more commonly used than the first, but the
context in
is boderline
flame-bait - if you read my post more carefully, I never implied that
def#2 held a sizeable portion of swedish techno as a whole - merely that
because enough similar records came out, that people eventually referred
to that particular style as swedish techno.
nor did i say that adam beyer
if anyone wants to know how
that was..drop me a line.
baci
fab
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Subject: Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4
If you think about it what
David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] raises a valid observation, why
so much hatred directed towards
Swedish techno?
If you think about it what percentage of techno from Sweden really fit's
under
definition #2?
As for the sound becoming more formulaic maybe you could be more specific
listing artist
I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops
but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so
much.
just a quick note on swedich techno because this topic seems to get folks
talking in circles without really getting anywhere:
I've
I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat
loops but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated
on so much.
just a quick note on swedich techno because this topic seems to get folks
talking in circles without really getting anywhere
I was just stating an observation.
To answer your question my only objection to the criticism of Swedish
techno for example, is the generalization of a country's techno movement
without being specific about an artist or label.
But surely everybody knows that all Swedish techno is bad, regardless
I was just stating an observation.
To answer your question my only objection to the criticism of Swedish
techno for example, is the generalization of a country's techno movement
without being specific about an artist or label.
But surely everybody knows that all Swedish techno is bad
Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David
Hasselhoff albums...
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B142889
Whooohooo!!! Is this stuff available on vinyl??;)
Nick (Dj Pacific:)
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cw == Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cw What issue is this? I find that a lot too - and here too
cw among some quarters there is always some new name the techno
cw heads are championing, usually white and British - but you
cw will always find that Black producers like
dn == darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dn I am so interested in this, so excuse my frequent posting!!
dn But I am interested in how personality typing plays in all
dn this...
dn For instance, are the lovers of Swedish techno generally
dn introverted (i.e., only needs very
dn == darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dn Anyways, there is a wrench in my gears in that ALOT of people
dn like music for many different reasons, and they are often not
dn truthful about it. One of my huge stumbling blocks in my
dn research is this need to like something simply
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Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
Well go as far to say it's close to trance... I know
Julesy was playing The Mole a few months back...
Lots of UK trance dj's play that kinda stuff... Gimme
the Detroit Escalator Co anyday...
Dj Pacific
This is off tangent but
But maybe part of that stigma comes from how ubiquitous UK music/dance
mags are worldwide. Q, Mixmag and the like can be found in all corners of
the world. Maybe they don't (or shouldn't) set the standards for music
journalism, but they do such a good job
I agree with you about 'De Sju Skenande Kompressorerna'. Stirring stuff. I
think it is available on vinyl on Vet Dom Som Fer Att (Know They For
Because).
Happy Hunting,
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Hey Ozymandias...
Do you want to move booties or do
you want to make people scratch their chins? The artists I've been
enjoying the most recently tend to fall squarely in the middle and be
very good at splitting the distance between the two.
I'd like to get your current top ten list because
I'm at least as interested as anyone else in understanding what makes
good music good, if only because that would make it easier for me to
make good music myself.
I think it just comes down to figuring out what you like. ;
Check this site out !!
It's all there !
http://www.sonox.com/main/electronica/start.box
What's the best place to start for Swedish Techno.
A few CD's please.
thanks
mediadrome
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IMHO good music is the music which provokes other musicians(positive or
negative)
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qualification of music on an objective level should be about functionality. how
valid an argument is without talking about its content can b rated by looking at
the reactions it provokes in the same discussion. and then u r just talking
about the people having the conversation, the musicians.
I also like
the more ascetic sorts of minimalism (Plastikman, Riou, Landstrumm).
so do I, Plastikman and Landstrumm I know, but Riou ? what label, where can
I hear some of it ?
Gwendal
I appreciate what minimalists like Neil Landstrumm and Cristian
Vogel are doing, but they aren't generally as urgently propulsive as
the recent Surgeon stuff (with the exception of Gigolos Trapped in
Retro Hell from Landstrumm's _Pro Audio_, which is both perfectly
titled and totally slamming
Or maybe a more obvious link.
http://www.sonox.com/main/electronica/style.box?showall=1category=4
// janos
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have also read that the most common record found on the
turntables of suicidal swedes is Abba's dancing queen (who collects this
information?).
This makes perfect sense to me.
Seth
Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't
want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:38:46 +0200
IMHO good music is the music which provokes other musicians(positive or
negative)
154
Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David Hasselhoff albums...
http
david rox!!
IMHO good music is the music which provokes other
musicians(positive or
negative)
154
Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David
Hasselhoff albums...
David Hasselhoff? what ?!?!
Hey guys i've got another great idea, lets start a mailinglist about
Detroit-techno
quick, get us out of here, KIT!!!(whooow whooow)
I think the antagonism to the Swedish stuff arises from the fact that the
likes of Cari and Adam have been so prolific - saturating the market and
subscribing to a formula, even inadvertently. Also it's not material that
you can listen to in different environments necessarily, like on a walkman
in
As DJ tool material, it's OK, but
maybe people are not
using it very adventurously. Also I doubt if anyone
aside from a
trainspotter could recognise or name a track by
either those guys or
Christian Smith - it's very anonymous. It's not like
hmmm... if the truth beknown I've got quite a
What's the best place to start for Swedish Techno.
A few CD's please.
thanks
mediadrome
as to what to feel, the track tells them pretty much exactly
how to feel, (notice for kicks and giggles, I'm not mentioning my own theory
by name, but none the less, this is the very appeal I was talking about a
minute ago). I find the some of the real innovation of that Swedish
techno
the swedes produced volvos, prototype airline stewards, absolut, abba, bjorn
borg all these people/ entities were successful, methodical,
efficient, but people are people, we have to feed our souls, and swedish
techno went out with fad diets..for that guy [child] to say
Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't
want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something
just a stop short or it.
d
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Well go as far to say it's close to trance... I know
Julesy was playing The Mole a few months back...
Lots of UK trance dj's play that kinda stuff... Gimme
the Detroit Escalator Co anyday...
Dj Pacific:)
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Ive personally felt swedish techno was always
yes, but bauhaus became ikea - a cheap imitation of the original...out.bond
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313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Swedish Techno
Also it's
Here's a song for you. Probably the best song Cari Lekenbusch has ever
produced
called De Sju Skenande Kompressorerna it's on the cd HPCD10
track 22
(Cari Lekebusch -DET JAG
VET)
Oops im a trainspotter though...
If anybody nows where i can get
I am so interested in this, so excuse my frequent posting!!
But I am interested in how personality typing plays in all this...
For instance, are the lovers of Swedish techno generally introverted (i.e.,
only needs very slight informational input to feel fulfilled)
Well from my very
for that guy [child] to say
that mills / hood are brothers on another planet, makes sense- the clinical
nature of his music puts him on par with the writing of j.g. ballard, and
the person who made the film where two doctor brothers trade metal
instruments...out.bond
Surgeon is just a very
| Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't
| want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something
| just a stop short or it.
go to your fave record store and check out adam beyer peter benish faces
ep on inside... if theres not enough soul
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Swedish Techno
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:26:27 +1000
Sure Surgeon and Ruskin and more so Ho subscribe to a more intellectual
ethos but that said Surgeon insisted in an interview here that he has
I think the introverted/extroverted personality/music match is
doomed to failure.
Well, as I was just telling someone, I have a tendency to be very general
and vastly broad and absolute, a handicap fo sure...
Anyways, there is a wrench in my gears in that ALOT of people like music for
many
there to have a good time after everything is said and done. maybe tha
surgeon is bored, maybe he does it solely for the money?
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Swedish
As I was reading this Month DJ mag, I know I should not read those mass
media control trash, anyway
This is off tangent but I know a lot of the UK press sucks but the
antagonism towards journalists is really out of control right now. There are
good and bad writers out there and the press in
It's Phases and it's not bad...
Rich.
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:14:27 -0300 Spiceee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Ive personally felt swedish techno was always missing something...I don't
| want to say the words 'soul' or 'funk' as thats a bit harsh, but something
| just a stop short or it.
go
we like what we like 'just because'
I am after a clearer vision why I would say look within , why do
you like what you like (I hope it's more than just because)This applies
to many things if the music thing is messin you up..
I would say re: this whole swedish techno thing , what comes from
over
Huh. I actually just got back from my Swedish class so this is an
interesting topic.
I think an important thing to do if you are to compare Swedish Techno to
Detroit Techno is realize the different influences. Go back to the time of
John Sinclair in Detroit, arguably an influential time in jazz
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
This is off tangent but I know a lot of the UK press sucks but the
antagonism towards journalists is really out of control right now. There are
good and bad writers out there and the press in other countries varies
considerably, so to use the
cw == Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cw I think the antagonism to the Swedish stuff arises from the
cw fact that the likes of Cari and Adam have been so prolific -
cw saturating the market and subscribing to a formula, even
cw inadvertently. Also it's not material that
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