Re: Find in field

It sounds like you have a field or fields that require a unique value. It also sounds like you are looking for any records that have a value. If the two records in the stated 2 processes, return the same Record ID, then of course you are getting the same number, and therefore the same key. Thi

Re: FTP_GetDirList

Ferdinando: Can you provide to us the values in each of the variables that are going into FTP_GetDirList? Jody Bevan > On Jul 23, 2024, at 04:44, stardata.info via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi All, > > I use 4D v19 on Windows, with command FTP_GetDirList i have an error

Re: Client communication

Hello Ferdinando: This list is really not used anymore. I would recommend that you go to: 4D.com Then click on Developer center at the top of the window. Then from there click on 4D Forum. This is a very much improved system for asking questions, getting answers, and searchi

Re: 4D <-> Development

al because they mess with the web users experience). This > means that before you make a call to 4D from a web page, you tell > Javascript which function will (if it ever gets a response) run when > the browser gets a reply. You make the call and then the webpage > continues as if nothin

4D <-> Development

I have asked a similar question over on the FORUM, and got two responses. I know more people than two have developed web pages and 4D applications working together. I really need to get into designing both. - The advantage I have is that I am starting from scratch with web development and 4D

Great new documentation on file/folder architecture in v19 for projects

Now that I am in the office I can now pass this along for any that are interested and couldn’t find the new documentation and search for it. This page is 3 clicks into the new documentation. https://developer.4d.com/docs/en/Project/architecture.html

Re: 4D Default Folder Structure

developer. Amazing. You win first prize. Jody > On Jun 22, 2021, at 07:52, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >  > >> On 22 /06 /2021, at 23:47, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> w

Re: 4D Default Folder Structure

bel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >  > >> On 22 /06 /2021, at 23:20, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> If I was I… > > Oha, someone is himself… > > Get better mate! > > > ***

Re: 4D Default Folder Structure

Not at my computer so no answer now. If I was I would just copy the description on this in the new manual from 4D. Best description in 30 years on this topic. Jody > On Jun 22, 2021, at 06:25, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day All, > > How does the default fol

Re: 4D scanning

David: Thanks for that snip of code. Hopefully someone in the know will be able to let us know about the MacOS. Thanks Jody Bevan > On Jun 21, 2021, at 4:20 AM, David Samson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hello, > > I don't know about Macs but on a PC you don't need a plugi

Re: pointer not properly initialized in 4DPop XLIFF

Hi Ernie! Good to see you still pounding the keys in 4D. Sorry I do not have the answer to your question. We wrote our own XLIFF tools, as we needed this before 4D Pop XLIFF was available. I am turning all my tools that I use into a component (ADE) that people can drop into their database to wr

Re: Looking to Replace Specific Win32API Commands to enable smooth upgrade to v17

Ken: The printer / printing controls in 4D v17 have improved greatly. It takes work, but you can build a whole interface around printer selection etc. You can save values and then the user can skip by it all and go to their preferred printers. This can be done by user, or computer (at least we

Re: Copy and Paste

Ferdinando: Hmmm, ok, you were not talking about using 4D commands to copy and paste, but rather the menu items (and their keyboard shortcuts) that are not working. Not had this happen. Can you just type in the method editor that you are trying to copy or paste in? Dumb question (yes), but I

Re: Copy and Paste

Ferdinando: If you are talking about using the command in the language to to this then - yes that is a known problem. Very frustrating indeed. Here is what we did just before each copy or paste and then it always worked. GET WINDOW RECT($vL_WinLeftSide; $vL_WinTopSide; $vL_WinRightSide; $vL_Wi

Re: Open a v17 data file when Structure is unknown

re: 4D thought through all of this with the v11 data file format. They wanted to make it super hard to do exactly what you are trying to do — take a data file that you have no structure file for and then reverse engineer out the structure so that you can extract the data. Yup, used that method

Experienced 4D Programmer and other skills available

To those listing on the Nug… I am looking for up to 80% time work. I need to be able to work remotely. Experience: Programming: Worked with all version of 4D from 2.0.11 to v18R5. Worked with all the major plugins Developed many custom one off applications for clients since I started in 4D dec

Re: PING of life...

I count as an old timer. Count me in. Jody Bevan > On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the f

Planned Summit 2020 Presentation

I was scheduled to present the Argus Development Environment addition for 4D at the Chicago Summit. Unfortunately it was canceled. Though I worked lots to create the digital presentation I could not meet the deadline to have it up. On our farm, I changed the animal breeding schedule to have them

Re: barcode

Is there a problem with using a font? Just asking as that is what I am doing. Seems to work great. The font is free, so cost is not an issue. Thanks Jody > On Mar 18, 2020, at 4:53 AM, stardata.info via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi All, > > Someone know how print bar codes

Re: Active Listbox/Form while listbox dynamically built

John: Jeremy is suggesting what I have used. I have a similar but slightly different update of the data displayed in a listbox that needs to occur throughout the time it is in use. The Call Worker and Call Form is what I have used. It is easier to do than the type of code we used to have to wri

Re: 64-Bit Quick Report related fields

Doug I so agree with you about forced, breaking upgrades. Apple OS upgrades causes us so many headaches over the years with their policy of breaking things. Trying to have a widely distributed product running on both OSes, and with forced enhancements and upgrades by government was the bane of m

Re: 64-Bit Quick Report related fields

Doug & Tim: I thought it was only me not understanding things again. What I ended up doing was building my own ‘Report Editor’, where I presented the tables and field for the users. Jody Bevan Jody Bevan Developer Argus Productions Inc. > On

Re: Multi-Select Dropdown Menu

Doug: Many years ago we recognized a few limitations of popups. Therefore over about a year we reworked our popup code, and also the interface that indicates a popup. The first thing we did was we never used a popup object built in by 4D. We created our own object that our user base learned wa

Re: Here's a great Mac App for testing and consuming REST services

Thanks Dave Nasralla and Keisuke Miyako for these recommendations. Jody Beva > On Mar 4, 2020, at 12:37 AM, Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > JSON Editor ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Arch

Re: 4D over different platforms

Ferdinando: There are a multitude of development environments out there to choose from. Sometimes for different needs some should be excluded. If you want 4D itself to run on MacOS, Windows, iOS, and Android then 4D is not the solution. If however you want to run on all those platforms you can

Re: Post Key

Tim: Thanks for the detailed code on getting this done. I will use that for now. When I get time I should be able to write the same type of thing for Windows. When I do, I will send it to you. Nice thing is with multiple tools, one can often get done what one cannot do with ‘plain’ 4D. We hav

Post Key

I want to let the Administrator / Designer in a compiled database be able to launch the Runtime Explorer without having to remember the keyboard shortcut to do this. The way I was thinking of doing this was a button on screen they click on that would post the keyboard shortcuts for the runtime

Re: Runtime Explorer

Thanks Jeff: I do have a developer palette, so I will do that. Should have thought of that - easy solution. Then I can easily switch back when needed. Jody > On Feb 1, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > You can call CHANGE CURRENT USER on the fly -

Re: Runtime Explorer

ess: Gives the specified group the ability to > enter the Design environment of the database and to display the Runtime > Explorer. > Note that: > > https://doc.4d.com/4Dv18/4D/18/Security-page.300-4575477.en.html > > 2020/02/02 6:33、Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@

Runtime Explorer

I would like to use the Runtime explorer on some occasions. My problem is that because I am not logged in as the ‘Designer’ the menu item is greyed out. My understanding is that this is because I am signed in doing programming as someone other than the designer. Am I missing something? Jody B

Re: SDI or MDI

Paul: The biggest reason for me, are clients that have two monitors on windows. Having the SDI means they can move the windows in our app anywhere they want. With the MDI if they want to use both monitors, they need to drag the MDI window across both windows. Having tried this myself, it just d

Re: Change menu title

Ferdinando: I have never changed the name, I have only ever added, or removed menus. Maybe you need to wipe out the menu and recreate it. Not sure - sorry. Jody > On Jan 20, 2020, at 3:19 PM, stardata.info via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi Jody, > > Actually I use the comman

Re: Change menu title

Ferdinando: How did you create your menus. With version 16 there are two ways to create your menus. 1. Traditional graphical tool way 2. Using a purely code way. Thus if #1: Go to Menu: Design -> Toolbox -> Menus In the graphical tool find the menu title you would like to change and change th

4D and SAP

1. Have any of you created interfaces to SAP? - send it data - get data from it I may have the opportunity to manage an IT team. The company uses SAP. If I know that I can connect with 4D to get data out, or into SAP that will open up a familiar opportunity to me. Otherwise… I c

Re: Export from 4D 6.8, Import to 4D 17.3

differently, ISO-8859-1 vs ISO-8859-15 > (especially the euro character) vs Windows-1252 vs UTF-8 vs MacRoman. > > keep in mind that 4D v6.8 used MacRoman, regardless of the platform. > >> 2019/12/27 6:18、Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com&

Export from 4D 6.8, Import to 4D 17.3

I have an import method that I have used many times through 16 and a couple in 17 (but not 17.3). The export of the data from 4D 6.8 is all records, with all fields just standard 4D fields (no pictures etc). It is set as a Macintosh File format. I have looked at the exported file in BBEdit and

Re: [Tip] Do NOT put a compnent method reference in a Catch

Chip: Thanks for updating us. The found problem and solution is always valuable be get. Jody > On Dec 2, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > As some may remember I was going nuts trying to track down why when I > loaded an interpreted version of a c

Re: ListBox - Possible to set choice list programmatically?

Kirk: There are two ways that we accomplish what you are thinking of. Well actually only one, and the other is the work around. To have a popup icon automatically show in the cell, you need to have 4D View Pro active. This will permit this type of object along with many others. If you use 4D V

Re: Cache flushing did not complete... best practice

For what it is worth, I second the recommendation by Jeff. We used mirrors from the day they were released many years ago. For critical data (like medical data), that just cannot be lost it is the way. It takes time to get the configuration you need figured out. There are different ways to han

Windows Server 2019 OS

Windows Server OS advice The last Windows Server OS I advised on selling for a 4D Server computer was in Windows Server 2012. Back then we never needed to pay for CALs. They have another server they are using for File Serving, DNS etc. The server computer they are purchasing is only for servi

Re: Option click close box

Jeremy: I have not looked in the last few versions of of the manual. It was documented when the feature came out many years ago. I typically do not read all the manuals over, just read the update notes. Sometimes I do have to go back and read the documentation over again, but not that often. I

Re: 4D authentication system that allow for stronger security.

Eric: To get what you have outlined (and much more) you just build your own within 4D. We had to have a very modern password system in our software since before 2000. We have built our new shell with all of the password control in it. The nice thing is that the System Administrator gets to set

Re: Screen arrangement

Chip: The main screen will have a top left coordinate of 0;0. Then get the coordinates of each screen. You can then determine where each screen is. A horizontal negative value means the screen is to the left of the main screen. A vertical negative value means the screen is above the main screen

Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

Oh, red faced with pie on it on this one. We tested the application on a server in our office. Unknown to me the application was being run on port 19833. Unknown to me this port setting travels with the structure file to our client’s server. I thought I had checked that, but likely did not pay

Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

Tim: Thanks Jody > On Jul 19, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: > >> I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 4D >> Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there

Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 4D Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D Server to put up an application update, (that works on a server in our shop) and now the clients cannot see 4D Server broadcasting. I have gon

Re: 'Clairvoyance' in listBox (v17r5)

Chris Belanger: To vote, to to the top of the first post. There are 4 yellow starts. Click on the first star to indicate - ya it would be nice, Click on the 4th star to indicate it is a very very good idea. The 2nd and 3rd stars are in between those thought levels. The little number to the rig

Re: POSIX Path Syntax (How to convert from 4D POSIX to Terminal POSXIX?)

If you are putting this into a Terminal script, then I always just use the MacOS Copy Pathname from the right click on the file name (then press the option key). When the MacOS places the pathname into the pasteboard it will have the appropriate syntax (escaping out the spaces) as needed for te

Re: [Tip]Set Query Destination

Doug: Good practice. I always have the set and reset code within the same method. Then when we run our QA method, if one is missing it records the error, and places the method with the error description in our listbox to fix. Good structured coding practices, also makes it much easier to write

Re: signature capture in 4D

Jim: I may have missed is, but what make and model did you buy to integrate this way. It sounds like the manufactures were ensuring it would work on the MacOS from within other applications as well as on Windows. That is nice. Thanks Jody Bevan > On Jun 19, 2019, at 10:10 AM, Jim Crate via 4D

Re: Benefits of 64-bit 4D Remote

For a client that has a system that mostly meets their needs it is hard to convince them to move forward. The costs for your time, and new equipment will just seem unnecessary. It is like that 10 year old car that feels new, runs great. The difference is when that old car dies they can just buy

Re: 3 menubars management

Hi Ernie! With version 17 having very custom menus is a bit or work, but it works fast and slick. If I understand what you are asking… the following works well. We build all our menus via code. You need to also build a bit of security (you can use the 4D Groups if you want) to know who gets wha

Re: Project methods vs ...

Just to chime in with my Belizean penny worth… (less than a Canadian penny) We have several forms that are used as the form for all tables. There are full suites of buttons on these project forms. For these buttons they all call a Project method. Within these are a case of statement that calls t

Re: [OFF] The Death of Sebastian...

Robert: Sorry to hear this. Pets can be the most important beings in our lives. So sad for your loss. Jody > On Apr 24, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Sadly I returned home, from two back to back trips (National Association of > Broadcasters

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

Pat: I use DropBox for this every week. When I bill a .dmg file I upload to Dropbox and for about that last 6 months, when it is downloaded by others it works fine. Just of note I use DMG Canvas. That should not matter, but it is a point of difference. Jody > On Apr 24, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Pat

Re: 4D v17 R5 file and folder objects !!!

Jeff: LOL. Is that like find a Millennial that can jump in a Land Rover Defender and drive because they understands no keyless entry, need a key to start it, 2 stick shifts with 12 gears and differential lock, and hand crank down windows. Oh, yes one that I found is true. They do not know how t

Re: 4D Security White Paper

As with all security anything can be hacked given time, money, and desire. First of all, social hacking is the most likely cause of leaked data. So moving on, to other types. If someone really wants your data they might steal your server computer. In days gone by if you didn’t know the Administ

Re: Custom Form Events

Chris: Absolutely there is a need for them. We use them extensively. I had not really thought of them as form events, but more of an event generating a request from somewhere else, or within the form. I am working on some form events right now. Prior to Objects in the language, the plugin Obje

Re: From where is my form method called?

Looks like you found it now. When you have many objects on a form, the way to have 4D find the object, and select it is as follows: 1. Click on the form window or form. 2. This brings forward the Property Listing dialog. 3. At the top of this dialog is a popup. 4. Click on this popup and it will

Re: I really recommend the 4D World Tour

Kirk: Thanks for taking the time to think through this and write it out. The Summit last year was a good introduction, and my expectation is that the WT this year will be some serious work to be thought through. Plan on coming rested this time. Thanks again Jody > On Apr 10, 2019, at 8:00 AM

Re: Error connecting to 4D Server

Steve: I agree with you 100%. It does not matter that we are right, if the client and their ‘network / hardware experts’ are telling them we are at fault. I have shown in person the problems on the network or on the servers. Absolute obvious problems. I have documented them with written letters

Re: Benchmark Speed Test Method

Steve: Thanks for that information. I used to have one I had written in 4D. This tool will be superior I am certain of that. I will need to read up on this, as I have an install coming up. Jody > On Apr 5, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Step

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

/Keychains/System.keychain (this is all right) >>> >>> —force: No such file or directory >>> >>> The pathname for the file is definitely correct - if I run >>> open /mypathname/ >>> >>> it opens the database. >>> >>>

Re: Code signing works on one app but fails on another

Pat: I struggled with this for a few months. A bunch of research, help from the nug, and help from 4D Tech support, I think I found our problem. We will use a graphic application to create some graphics (icons / pictures etc). As is usual, Apple is getting more strict with each version of the O

Re: Intel Optane P4800x Drives with 4D Server and Thermal Throttling

Thanks for posting! > On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Justin Will via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > In case anyone is wondering. I just installed one of these P4800X drives in > our backup server and ran a test conversion of our datafile from v13 to v17. > The datafile is 67gb an

Re: Can't get to development mode!

Not sure what you mean, but we have special keys at startup so that we can go into Trace mode. From there we can trace a startup problem, or drop right into coding if we need. Having a startup crash many years ago instilled doing this. It was stressful trying to break into trace mode when neede

Re: Odd thing with iso dates

The ‘Z’ stands for Zulu time. > On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Jeremy is right, mind the "Z" at the end of the date string. > > > Regards > Lutz > >> At a guess,

Re: Coding/Development Style Guide?

Tom: We rewrote our shell for v16 from scratch. I also wanted to write complete documentation on using the shell too. That of course included naming convention for everything (even table names), includes lots of code that is very easy to add to code you are writing, and explanation of a lot of

Re: [off] no matter how bad the code you have/wrote/work on....

Thanks for sharing. > On Nov 15, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > > it can not be this bad > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18442941 > > Chip ** 4D Internet User

Re: Defining and documenting Objects

We rewrote our shell (that has been updated ever few version since 3.0 when I write the first shell). Our goal was to have as few of global, and interprocess variables as possible. We got a long way in before we needed more than a few of each. Yes, one of those is for the hiding/showing of list

Re: Where is best place to save data outside data file

to learn Terminal much better, and learned to trouble shoot signing. After I get my notes done, I will be much better prepared for problems. Thanks again Jody > On Oct 10, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Jim Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Oct 9, 2018, at 8:50

Re: Where is best place to save data outside data file

Chip: Ya, I saw my phone number there as I clicked send… I will try the 4D Folder and see how that works out. Thanks Jody > On Oct 9, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I believe that Get 4D Folder works for this sort of thing > > I would think

Where is best place to save data outside data file

In my previous 26+ years of 4D coding I did not have to concern myself with the same computer being used by different computer users (By this, I mean the user signed into the computer). Part of that was that long ago, people just didn’t sign out of the computer, and then the next person sign in

Re: How to get the current time in a specified time zone

Pat: Thanks. I will try it out. I will see if then I can figure out getting it for the different time zones without having it hard coded in. Jody > On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:28 PM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Using v16: > I've figured out how to get the current GMT

Re: Creating a form object to use as dynamic form

ought Laruant would be able to make something like > ORDA either so I suspect there's something in the works. > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 7:57 AM Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> ... but my hope is that this is just a necessary 1st st

Re: Creating a form object to use as dynamic form

Rudy: I agree with you. You think Belgium has few courses - try Belize! I am with you trying to master it is a challenge. So much new in v17. Fortunately we can still code as we did, and learn in snippets as we have time. I do hope they have a course happening around the USA on this new stuff b

Re: Creating a form object to use as dynamic form

Sorry Rudy, not an answer to your question, but topical I think. Being able to create a sophisticated form via code is a fantastic feature. It is like the coding I did back in 1982/1983. Back when I first got my hands on my own copy of 4D version 2.0.10 the Graphical form editor was such a lib

Signing a MacOS Standalone Application - XCode version 9.2

I found out a new client upgraded their Macs to a later version of the OS (High Sierra). Of course the MacOS app I sent them needs to get signed with an Apple Certificate. I researched the 4D KnowledgeBase, read the tech note on doing it and it seemed easy to use. I downloaded XCode from App

Re: v16 - playing videos stored in the database

Thanks Janie, Tai, and Keisuke for your suggestions. We will look at these and decide which way we want to go. Sincerely Jody Bevan > On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Tai Bui via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > Perhaps the following two Tech Tips can give you an idea on ho

Re: v16 - playing videos stored in the database

Tai: Thanks, I will take a read through these. In the case for the current client I am wanting this for it is a one off application so having the videos stored locally (on their server) is likely the better way. For our Shell training videos the other storage off site is the better way to go

v16 - playing videos stored in the database

In years gone by, I used to provide this feature through an Escape plugin. It seems to me that one should be able to do this through a WebArea. I am obviously getting thick, but when I read the Web Area Language Reference I seem to be missing a lot. I thought it would be something simple like u

Re: Help?

Ken: This is why with ALL our code, we have right near the very beginning of our code the following: If(Caps Lock Down) Trace End if Of course this does not work in compiled mode. Many many years ago I learned the lesson like you did. This is now standard code. Jody > On Sep 10, 2018, at 8:

Set Environment Variable

I am using the Launch External Process to get information via wmic. Of course the cmd line window pops up for a second. I would like to stop this. The Set Environment Variable command is supposed to do this. Of course though, I need to know the environment variable to do this with. I am having d

Re: New record numbering system and CALL WORKER

Chuck: That is exactly what we do for our code. Has served us well for all our sites. We can have 200+ current users on the system, importing records from labs (thus needing lots of counters quickly), and never noticed a problem with the system. For those counters we do not wanted to have one g

OPs - my bad

I made a comment that has not shown up on the nug yet that the component documentation didn’t explain what the ‘Matrix’ was before using it. After 10 more minutes of frustration I discovered it was located in the Component Overview section - which I missed when I thought I was starting from the

Writing Components

I really want to place a bunch of our code / forms into a component. It will make it much easier to install into other systems, and to update that code / forms as into older designed system that use an older version of the component. Of course it also protects what could otherwise be unprotected

E-Mail in 4D

The last time I wrote an E-Mail client with 4D was circuit 4D v11 and into v12. It worked great. I left the programming world for a break for 2 years, and then got back in. Now I am using 16R6, and will likely move into the v17. releases for a product I am working on. From my review today, and

Re: Changes to variable initialization in v16?

Noah: Can I make a suggestion for you that I and many others here do in their code: 1. Have very defined naming convention of your variables in code. 2. The naming convention must clearly show the type of variable. 3. Every method must declare its local variables. 4. Every process variable must

Re: Tabbed design windows are the best

I will have to read the upgrade notes again to see how to do that Chip. Having 5-10 different tabbed windows would work well I think. Jody > On Jul 30, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Ive not used it - > but > > based on current work style..

What Source do you use

I need to have a system with Countries, States (province, Parish, Regions), and then Communities. In the past I would typically use Wikipedia to get the information. I did this to get a few for development and testing. Now I would like to fill this out for about 20 countries. If the Zip / Posta

Re: Tabbed design windows are the best

I tried it out for about 4 days. What I liked: 1. uncluttered desktop. 2. The forms / methods were always in one location. What I didn’t like: 1. Often when I code I will have 2 or 3 windows open that I will be looking at to get object names, or match the flow of code in another method.

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

Sorry that I comment on your thread. I didn’t see the Jorg only sign. > On Jul 27, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Jody, > >> On 27 Jul 2018, at 23:32 AEST, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >>

Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

I am good with the HTML pages. Especially when we can download them to run locally. I have a blazing fast 2MB download and 512k upload internet speed. They work fine for me for lookup of commands. I just finished 2 weeks of internet down. Running the browser in Offline mode and accessing the HT

Re: standard action for design mode not working in 17.0

John: I encountered this too. I believe the command changed from the v16R series to a slight difference in v17. The constant had changed. I looked it up in v17 and just used the new command. Jody > On Jul 14, 2018, at 8:18 AM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I conve

Re: Objects without Stylesheets suddenly displayed as Wingdings!

Chuck: That sounds like great code module to have in a developer tool kit. If you are willing to share, I would appreciate a copy. Thanks jody > On Jul 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I have code that will report on any object on forms with

Re: Cannot delete if related many issue

Arnaud de Montard: Since 4D v2.0.10 I have not used it (probably not in 4D way back then). When we used to permit actual deletions but we handled all record deletions in our code especially for related records that also needed to go. Now we do not permit actual deletions - we just flag records

Re: Minimalism in Graphics

Fast enhancement request! Jody > On Jul 6, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > The color is back in the debugger in v17, just FYI. > >> On Jul 6, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> &g

Minimalism in Graphics

What do you think and do? I know that this ‘trend’ is started by the designers at Apple. When Apple starts a design trend then many thousands of developers follow it. To me, this trend is just like a fashion trend, rather than a functional trend. Yes I have read that the ‘reason’ is to let desi

Re: Date entry

Pat: I was a lot of work. Especially going through a large application and changing it all over. We got forced into it by regulation of supporting different date formats across different government regulatory regions. So we decided to just do it the flexible way and provide many more features t

Re: Date entry

th date formats: > On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed in > the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK > format! > > How do you manage this? > > Pat > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan

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