Re: iNUG Messages ― Is it time for it to be more than just 'plain text' ???

2020-05-02 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: > I say we join the 20th century and move everything to the new forums. > Shutdown this list on 1 Jun 2020 and redirect any posts to the new forums. Actually Tom, the iNUG is the 20th century. 20th century dates are Jan 1, 1901 to Dec 31, 2000. We

Re: Object notation replacement for use of Self in a script — v18

2020-04-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 30, 2020, at 10:00 PM, Douglas von Roeder wrote: > Another WTF is that you can’t iterate from the end of a collection to the > start. You can reorder the collection and then run a For each loop but > that’s a complete kludge. Dollars to doughnuts, 4D will eventually add a > parameter to the

Re: Multiple instances of 4D Client

2020-04-17 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 17, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Kevin Abraham wrote: > Simply go find your 4D Installation, in my case 4D v13.3 in Program Files > (x86). Then make as many copies of that 4D folder as you need, in your case 1 > and in my case 4. They will be named 4D v13.3 - Copy, Copy(2), etc. by > windows when y

Re: Drop User NOT working (after client disconnected using Force Quit)

2020-04-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 15, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Spencer Hinsdale wrote: > Dude, 17.4 is the bomb. The ultimate fix for our times is Sleep on SSL > (ACI0096906). This means you can run remote, encrypted, and shut your laptop > for lunch and when you open again 4D client is Instant ON! > > New Networking (Server

Re: Longitude Index: B-Tree or Cluster

2020-04-14 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 14, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Peter Bozek wrote: > Cluster index is suitable when the result of search is a (potentially > large) selection. While B-tree node stores a reference to a record, Cluster > index node stores a selection, so no selection building is needed. However, > if I would design su

Re: one server window on client

2020-04-14 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 14, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > Environment windows server 2016. 4D 17.4 running as a built server. Server > running as a service. > > I am logged in as Administrator. > > A one line method > OPEN ADMINISTRATION WINDOW > > 4D crashes every time > > I have changed method to

Re: 4D Server v18.1LTS - Startup Takes 10-15 Minutes

2020-04-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 10, 2020, at 12:09 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > This is what I found also. Thinking about it you can see how it makes sense > - a Project is simply a collection of text files. They can be edited by 4D > Method Editor or a text editor at the same time. On your local machine > that's manageable,

Re: 4D Server v18.1LTS - Startup Takes 10-15 Minutes

2020-04-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, M wrote: > Well, your question promoted me to re-convert the database on the server > host. Previously I had converted to v18.1 on my desktop development > machine and also converted from binary to project database. So, I have > now opened a fresh copy of the v17R6

Re: New Mail Command 17r6

2020-04-03 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 3, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Steve wrote: > The following code has been working really well, much faster than the old IC > methods, but from today the PDFs are arriving corrupted if sent from a MAC > client, but not from a PC client. We have not used PC clients before, but > because of bandwidt

Re: Worker and UI

2020-03-28 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Jeremy Roussak wrote: > When Jenner was dithering about vaccination, he was told “Don’t think; try > the experiment”. > > I may yet run foul of some hidden gremlin which bares its fangs when 4D19 > appears, but I tried the experiment and thus far it works like a dre

Re: Prevent multiple database instances

2020-03-26 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Peter-Christian Miest wrote: > Since 4D v17 I can launch multiple instances of 4D with the same structure > file and the same data file. This of course results in errors and blocks all > instances. 4D v15 just brought the running instance of the database to front > and

Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?

2020-03-19 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Alexander Heintz wrote: > OsX is as much a UNIX flavor as we are basically primates. > > BSD split in 75 from UNIX and NEXTSTEP in 86 from BSD. > > don't know why, but AFAIK the MacOS is not suited for multiple concurrent > user sessions. Good that you prefaced you

Re: Why did 4D kill the Solutions Guide?

2020-03-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 15, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Robert Broussard wrote: > Although, I have not changed my Dev info for years, there was no need to > since my information remained current. I was not aware that any data was > dated or that there was a problem in any way with the solutions guide. Also, > I’ve never

Re: How can one REDRAW a SUBFORM that uses a OBJECT as its 'variable or expression'?

2020-03-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 11, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Chris Belanger wrote: > Thank you, Lahav. Worked. > > Still don’t understand why REDRAW( ) doesn’t get a (*; OBJECT NAME) syntax > though … Create your own command called “REDRAW_OBJECT($object_o)” and pass in an object reference. That’s what I have done. Then when

Re: 64-Bit Quick Report related fields

2020-03-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 5, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Doug Hall wrote: > A few weeks ago, we switched to 4D v17 (64-Bit) so that our users could run > Catalina. Today, a user showed me that you can't dig more than one table > away from the current table, in the new 64-bit Quick Report Editor. Are we > missing something, or

Re: is anyone working with dropbox via 4D? how?

2020-03-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 5, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Charles Miller wrote: > I would like to see that as well Thanks Maybe somebody should suggest that I do a 4D Method user group presentation about using Dropbox. Contact Brent Raymond and request it. My arm could be twisted into doing a presentation and providing a de

Re: Multi-Select Dropdown Menu

2020-03-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 5, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Douglas von Roeder wrote: > I appreciate the suggestions and, like every one else here, I *have* gotten > into the habit of writing code to fill in the gaps in 4D’s feature set. In > this case, I’d like to avoid creating another widget though, Jody, to your > point, cre

Re: dropbox api

2020-03-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 5, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > is anyone working with dropbox via 4D? how? I have done a lot of Dropbox work with 4D. It’s fairly easy. Dropbox REST API is pretty good and very well documented. You can use 4D’s HTTP Request command to do make it all happen. So then you are

RE: Necessary To End Task After Quitting Server

2020-02-26 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: > We get this occasionally and the best I can attribute it to is that 4D is > waiting for something to stop before exiting. > > Just make sure you don't have something hung up during the shutdown process. Sometimes it take 4D v17.x a while to

Re: Post Key

2020-02-21 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 21, 2020, at 12:45 PM,Keisuke Miyako wrote: > if the objective is to simply post some key combination: > > https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-virtual-key/ Yep, that’s the objective. I wrote my solution back in 2018. I see you created this plugin with first commit on March 10, 2019. Bu

Re: Post Key

2020-02-20 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 20, 2020, at 11:19 AM,Jody Bevan wrote: > Thanks for the detailed code on getting this done. I will use that for now. > When I get time I should be able to write the same type of thing for Windows. > When I do, I will send it to you. > > Nice thing is with multiple tools, one can often

Re: Post Key

2020-02-19 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM,Jody Bevan wrote: > I want to let the Administrator / Designer in a compiled database be able to > launch the Runtime Explorer without having to remember the keyboard shortcut > to do this. > > The way I was thinking of doing this was a button on screen they click o

Re: Getting emails sent by 4D to show up in "Sent Items"?

2020-02-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 11, 2020, at 9:59 AM,Bob Miller wrote: > RE> "Emails sent by the SMTP Internet commands are just the same as emails > created by any other mail program. They will show up in the Sent folder for > the account that sent them. I do this all the time for my clients and they > know that th

Re: 4D Write Pro User Documentation

2020-02-06 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Doug Hall wrote: > Is there a PDF or website where I can point my end users, that will tell > them how to use 4D Write Pro and the little widget that comes with it in > the Object Database? All I'm seeing is the developer documentation. I wish there was. I wish they in

Re: v18 and 4D Write Classic - does it work ?

2020-02-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Peter Jakobsson wrote: > I’m going to be making the leap from v15 to v18. I think the biggest > transition will be moving to 4D Write Pro as I have quite a lot of legacy 4D > Write code to deal with. > > In the meantime, does anybody have experience of migrating big

Re: SDI or MDI

2020-01-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Paul Dennis wrote: > Seeing an earlier post by Tim. I'm struggling to understand the benefit of > SDI on Windows. I understand on a Mac with the way the menu switches with > the window SDI makes sense. However the windows implementation where the > menu remains with th

Re: 4D Application as a 3-tier System

2020-01-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 28, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: > Tim, is this an automatic failover or do you have to down the clients and > make a quick config change or relaunch with a different 4DLink file? Hi Tom, It is currently a manual process to switch to the mirror. But it is certainly something

Re: 4D v16 in mixed mode 32 and 64bit

2020-01-29 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 29, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Andrew Hobson wrote: > Until now, my main 4D Application runs on 4D v15. > With new computers arriving installed with MacOS 10.15 Catalina, I need to > move to 4D v16 and 64bit. > > I have some real basic questions. > > 1) Can you live in a mixed mode environmen

Re: 4D Application as a 3-tier System

2020-01-28 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 28, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: > I've always wondered, when people recommend using 4D Client as a web server, > how you go about load balancing. It's one thing if your user base is small, > however when you have 50-100 users, you cannot send them all to one 4D Client > w

Re: 4D Application as a 3-tier System

2020-01-28 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 28, 2020, at 2:00 PM Ronnie wrote: > I have an application running in a hospital environment for a number of years. > In the light of the increasing awareness of data security, the client’s IT in > their own words are looking at "redoing the whole 4dcis database onto 2 or 3 > tier system

Re: FLUSH BUFFER

2019-12-18 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 18, 2019, at 10:02 AM, David Samson wrote: > I come back to you to let you know that the problem that i had told you > about in the first post is persisting. > > Now i noticed that the cache that is occupied keep raising on every > interaction that the client make with the server or more

Re: Automatic Excel to Text-tab delimited?

2019-12-12 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 12, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Kirk wrote: > (Environment: All Windows, 4D server/client 16R4) > > Just curious if anyone has found a way to automatically transform Excel > documents to text-tab delimited documents? > > The issue I am attempting to solved: We have several system which produce >

Re: Automatic Excel to Text-tab delimited?

2019-12-12 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 12, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Kirk wrote: > (Environment: All Windows, 4D server/client 16R4) > > Just curious if anyone has found a way to automatically transform Excel > documents to text-tab delimited documents? > > The issue I am attempting to solved: We have several system which produce >

Re: PRINT SETTINGS Not setting OK to 1

2019-12-12 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 12, 2019, at 1:25 PM, John J Foster wrote: > This is just weird! > > If I trace it and look to see the value of the OK button it’s alway zero. > > If I place this code: > > PRINT SETTINGS > If (OK=1) > ALERT("Print OK=1") > Else > ALERT("Cancel OK=0") > End if > > It corr

Re: PRINT SETTINGS Not setting OK to 1

2019-12-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 11, 2019, at 4:28 PM, John J Foster wrote: > So created a new db with only this code appears to work: > > PRINT SETTINGS > If (OK=1) > ALERT("Print!") > Else > ALERT("Cancelled!") > End if > > So there is something in our application that has caused this behavior. > > So I

Re: PRINT SETTINGS Not setting OK to 1

2019-12-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 11, 2019, at 3:38 PM, John J Foster wrote: > Well I did fail to mention I ma running Windows 10 Pro on parallels 15.1. > > But my client is also running Windows 10 Pro but on a windows only computer. > > I’ll test your ideas - as always very reasonable - and let you know. Hi John, I’m

Re: PRINT SETTINGS Not setting OK to 1

2019-12-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 11, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John J Foster wrote: > So it appears that my client (in Michigan) and I (in Seattle) with running > the current versions of Windows 10 Pro and 4D v17.2 64-bit are the only > developers experiencing this issue? > > 4D Tech Support do you have any ideas? Suggestions?

Re: Event handler method in component

2019-11-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jeremy Roussak wrote: > I’d like to have a method set by ON EVENT CALL to live in a component. It > works, in that the method is called on each event, but the system variables > Modifiers and KeyCode are undefined so testing for the event itself is tricky. > > I can

Re: How to view PDF's on Windows with 4D V16

2019-10-31 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 31, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Robert McKeever wrote: > I’ve tried PDF View, and the PDF’s fail to load. Works fine on the Mac. This turns out to be a rather complicated and tricky area. First, just to get it out of the way, I’ve never had any trouble opening PDFs on macOS with Preview. It just

Re: Components and external data

2019-10-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 30, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > Given the following situation: > [Host_Database] <- [component] -> [external_for_Component] > > - in the case of client/server how is the external database managed? > -- would I place it in the component's resource folder? You could if you wante

Re: Cache flushing did not complete... best practice

2019-10-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 25, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Justin Will wrote: > I agree with Tim. This is a flag inside the datafile. > > I wish a utility existed again to just clear the flag.I have tried to > find this in the datafile a few times without luck. With a feature like this you are playing russian roulett

Re: Cache flushing did not complete... best practice

2019-10-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 24, 2019, at 2:00 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > Are you sure the marker is stored in the data file? If I restore a backup > from Time Machine that I know was good and verify the records in the MSC, the > verify fails saying the last database flush did not complete. I would think > that the

Re: Cache flushing did not complete... best practice

2019-10-23 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 23, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John Baughman wrote: > What is the best way to recover from a a flushing that did not complete. I > have never had an issue using restore before when this happened, but on my > development machine I cannot get the data file to open again no matter what I > try. > >

Re: Capturing barcodes without a 'text' field

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Peter Jakobsson wrote: > Was wondering what technique people used for capturing scans into 4D. At the > moment I’m using a simple text field and the scanner simply ‘pastes’ the code > into the text field, but something a bit more sophisticated is called for > ideall

Re: WR PRINT with "Microsoft Print To PDF"

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 15, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Denis Mikheev wrote: > Has anyone encountered the issue with pdf generation on Windows Server 2016? > > Issue: "WR PRINT" opens up a dialog to save a pdf instead of the > generation of PDF silently. > > OS: Windows Server 2016 > 4D v15 R2 > 4D Running as a service >

Re: stack error - again

2019-10-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 11, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote: > actually its is not compiled component - it is the INTERPRETED version > of the component! > compile it and it works?!?!?!?! Thanks for the clarification, I thought this was a compiler issue. Since it is an interpre

Re: stack error - again

2019-10-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 11, 2019, at 3:38 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote: > Thanks for the ideas - only: > On a Mac. > I have 4 copies of v15 > it does not matter which copy I use > > Other 4D databases, hosts with components (including the component in > question), and stand alone all functi

Re: stack error - again

2019-10-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 11, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > and Tim, I may eventually have to do that...build from scratch > BUT since all of this worked at one point it would be nice to know what > the root cause of the issue is, so that I (and possibly others) do not > repeat it. I know exactly what y

RE: stack error - again

2019-10-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 11, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > There is no problem starting the host > - using a different interpreted component > - removing all components > > The component works with a different host, both interpreted and > compiled. So you know it is a host specific problem. You know w

Re: 4D and FTP - AGAIN

2019-10-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Jörg Knebel wrote: > Or is there a secret plan from 4D to overhaul 4D_Internet_Commands which the > World Wide Developer Community will find out about only if they sacrifice a > black cat at full moon on the grave of a killer? > > 4D! What about 4D-Internet_Commands

Re: Using Github to Manage Distributed Development

2019-10-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 10, 2019, at 4:44 PM, Narinder Chandi wrote: > Yes, you're correct, currently the move from binary to Project format is one > way, whether this will become bi-directional I don't know. It is still > possible to compile back to a single binary though so the step to go from > Project to in

Re: 4D Server Hosting - The Future ?

2019-10-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > The other thing about VM vs metal is the whole pre-emptive process > benefit basically goes away. Thomas Maul has shown this at the Summit. > Having n+ virtual cores doesn't do anything to actually increase processing > speed because the VM is run

Re: mirror to production

2019-10-04 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > Good thought but when you have a but client a new 4dlink file gets created on > connection and that is the one that is used If you are using a “built” 4D Client, then the 4Dlink file is not an option because the build client uses it’s own intern

Re: CASE statement = True but it behaves as though it's False

2019-10-04 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Pat Bensky wrote: > So the first 2 times through, when $hbf="b" and > ptra2tCellStylesBody->{$row}{$ElementOrder}#$t, it populates the cell: > ptra2tCellStylesBody->{$row}{$ElementOrder}:=$t > > Subsequently, it just pops through the Case statement and doesn't populat

Re: mirror to production

2019-10-04 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > We are ready to implement our new mirror code and are writing documentation > on this process. The one thing I have not figured out is how to turn the > mirror into production. > > The server itself is pretty easy as I have a record that has IP

Re: REsource folder - Building a component or App

2019-09-27 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 27, 2019, at 9:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > Is there a way to get the build component action to include an > invisible folder which resides in the resources folder? The 4D Build Application dialog does what it does and you can’t change that. But you can use the BUILD APPLICATION command

Re: FYI: 4D-Objects - Embedded Objects --> Save as file

2019-09-24 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 24, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > Do you have to Base64 encode the picture to store it in the JSON file? I would PICTURE TO BLOB and then BASE64 ENCODE the blob to create a text representation of the picture. Reverse the process to bring it back. Tim Sent from my iPad

Re: FYI: 4D-Objects - Embedded Objects --> Save as file

2019-09-24 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 24, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Jörg Knebel wrote: > I tried the following (pseudo code): > > Create an object > Fill the object with some stuff > > Create another object and filled it with stuff including a picture > > Put the second object into the first. > > JSON Stringify($MyGreatObj) > > Sa

Re: v16 - Verify & Repair log files

2019-09-20 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 20, 2019, at 2:25 AM, Tom Benedict wrote: > I don’t know how critical those anomalies are. Some are cosmetic, but others, > like the scrollable area compatibility mode, might impact functionality. We > have over 3,000 to change, so it's going to take a while. I went through this recently

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-20 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 20, 2019, at 2:25 AM, John J Foster wrote: > I would be interested as well. Especially object-oriented programming in 4D > v17 with a messaging system that takes advantage of new 4D concepts. And > good quality reusable examples to speed up the integration into 4D v17R... > > And the AP

Re: 4D authentication system that allow for stronger security

2019-09-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 9, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > More to the point of workstation security after 4 > failed attempts 4D itself enforces a 10 second freeze. Sadly this freeze > seems to only apply to every 5th attempt - using both17.2 and 17r6. And you are “sorry” because? If you think allowing 1

Re: 4D authentication system that allow for stronger

2019-09-06 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 6, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: > Can you also get access privileges from AD? If so, how are they synced to 4D > Users & Groups? Or maybe they aren’t? If they aren’t, what do you do to > manage access within the app? Hi Tom, For the system I was talking about, I gave my client

Re: 4D authentication system that allow for stronger security.

2019-09-06 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 6, 2019, at 06:15, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Arrgh, do you rely believe trusting/relying on an outside “system” is worth > even considering? > > Please think again, and than think different and again… > > Just as a warning, “Active Directory” and everythin

Re: 4d write to write pro conversion

2019-09-03 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 3, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: > The “trick” to converting Write Classic to Write Pro is to abandon any idea > that it will be easy or quick. It will likely take way longer than you > estimate. You also need to give up any concept of how things are done in > Write Classic. Writ

Re: Check Orphan Forms Warnings in MSC

2019-09-01 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Narinder Chandi wrote: > So, after a long, long hard slog migrating from v15 to v17, I have reduced > the 6,000 MSC warnings down to the last 2. > > Under "Check Orphan Forms" I am seeing: > The form resource FO4D of id 31086 is not used anywhere > The form resource

Re: Running v16.6 built application as a service on Windows SBS 2011

2019-08-28 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Mike Beatty wrote: > Running into an issue trying to get a v16.6 built application to run as a > service, wondering if anyone has this in place before we ramp up the > troubleshooting. > > A few notes — this is on a client remote server, which is administered

Re: 4D v17.1HF1 to v17.2HF1

2019-08-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 13, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Keith Goebel wrote: > Hi all. > We are using Win 4D v17.1HF1 and would like to upgrade to v17.2HF1 but > haven’t the resources at the moment to test everything to see if there are > any new “features" introduced since v17.1HF1. > I would sure like to make the upgrade

Re: Sending Text Messages From 4D

2019-08-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 5, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jim Labos wrote: > Hi Tim (or anyone else that could help), > > I am looking for a quick and simple SMS solution and came upon your (Tim's) > message that you possibly had gotten some HTTP code snippets to send SMS via > 4D using Twilio. > > I tried and was unsuccess

Re: No Object Auto-Completion for 4D Commands?

2019-08-02 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 2, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Jeffrey Kain wrote: > And if you misspell a property (or get the case wrong), it will suggest that > to you forever as well. So don't make a mistake... ever! :) I don’t think it does it “forever”.The way I understand it works is every method that you open is scanne

Re: No Object Auto-Completion for 4D Commands?

2019-08-02 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Narinder Chandi wrote: > Thanks, but I actually have that article open in a browser window and had > referred to it prior to posting. It didn't answer my specific question that I > posted about with regards to auto-complete for 4D commands that return > objects. Can

Re: User and Group information error on validation

2019-07-31 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 31, 2019, at 8:46 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > I fixed the Users and Groups errors by…. > > 1. Open Groups in the Toolbox > 2. Select an offending group > 3. Deselect the first selected member in the group (in my case > Administrator) > 4. Select the next group do

Re: Windows Server 2012 & 4D Server v17.2

2019-07-19 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 19, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: > I do not have access to the Windows Server Administration window (only to 4D > Server Window). 4D Server has been working fine there. A restart of the 4D > Server to put up an application update, (that works on a server in our shop) > and now th

Re: Stylesheet Search?

2019-07-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > stylesheets are deprecated in project mode. Are you saying in future versions of 4D that Style Sheets will no longer be supported? So what takes their place? How do you assign font, style and size to objects that supports macOS and Windows l

Re: 4D v17r4 Windows Print To PDF ignoring PAGE SETUP

2019-07-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 8, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Cameron Ambrose wrote: > What about double-sided printing for Mac? I can manage that with PAGE SETUP > but I don’t see a Mac option under SET PRINT OPTION. Any ideas? I was in the > process of converting everything over to SET PRINT OPTION and now it looks > like I n

Re: Quick Open Method (QOM)

2019-07-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 8, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Patrick Emanuel wrote: > thanks a lot :-) > I'm fine with commands METHOD and work a lot with them in QST. My > concern is about how you display the result inside the "Find" result dialog > from 4D application. > If it is not this, it is really realistic as result.

Re: Quick Open Method (QOM)

2019-07-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 8, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Patrick Emanuel wrote: > Very impressive and useful! > Great job. > > By curiosity, can you explain us the trick you use to get the result into > the search dialog? Thank you and glad you are finding it useful. The component basically uses 2 4D commands. METHOD GET

Quick Open Method (QOM)

2019-07-07 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
What do you do if you want to open a method? You have several options from the 4D Design Environment: - Go to the Explorer window, scroll to find the method name and then double-click on it. - If you have a method window open, and you see the method name you want to open in that method window,

Re: 4D v17r4 Windows Print To PDF ignoring PAGE SETUP

2019-07-07 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 7, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jeffrey Kain wrote: > When we upgraded to v17 64-bit, the biggest thing we had to change were old > printing forms. To get them to work, I changed old reports that relied on > saved page setups to use the equivalent SET PRINT OPTION command, and it > worked in all c

Re: v 17.1 potential gotcha

2019-06-26 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jun 26, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > I have a form (invoice ) that I am printing 1 copy of and printing a second > copy using set print destination to create a PDF > I made the following discoveries. > > 1. The print was fine all on page as it should have been > 2. When opening PDF

Re: issue with invisible button

2019-06-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jun 10, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Chuck M wrote: > Environment Mac client, 4D version 16.5 built client server and 4D standalone > > I have an invisible button with Enter as a shortcut. If I disable the button > and even if I make it invisible and then Hit enter key, the button code does > not run (

Re: Open a v17 data file when Structure is unknown

2019-06-06 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jun 6, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jörg Knebel wrote: > Has someone tried to find that “WEDD” resource in the structure and the data > file and has manipulate it already? > > I just want to prevent me going into “crazy, ridiculous amount of work and > effort” to get it done. The “WEDD” is a UUID. If

Re: Open a v17 data file when Structure is unknown

2019-06-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jun 5, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Jörg Knebel wrote: > G’day All, > > How do you retrieve data from a v17 data file when the structure is unknown? > > I tried to open it with some kind of generic structure (lots of tables with > 250 text-fields) each, like in the old days, but 4Dv17 "finds out" that

Re: Anyone using zipcodeapi

2019-06-02 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jun 2, 2019, at 2:00 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > Thanks Kirk. Yes after looking through the 2 I think zipcodeapi is the better > choice. I registered my app and with a simple http request already have what > I needed…. > >C_TEXT($response) >C_OBJECT($oResponse) >$$zipcode:="96734"

Re: v17R4 infelicities

2019-05-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 15, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Pat Bensky wrote: > The issue with the design windows all closing was fixed in one R version > but it seems to have reappeared. I'm on R5 and it SOMETIMES (randomly) does > this. > I've submitted a bug report (99591). I’ve never used this preference. I drop in and ou

Re: Migrating 4D Write Pictures to 4D Write Pro Objects

2019-05-14 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 14, 2019, at 5:29 PM, John J Foster wrote: > 4D v17R4 Windows and Macintosh Stand alone and 4D Server > I do not have an old 4D Write plugin only the new 4D Write Pro > App upgraded from 4D 2012 to 4D V17 > > I am working on the final v17 conversion piece migrating older 4D Write saved >

Re: AreaList Pro Column Background Color

2019-05-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 13, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Armin wrote: > the ALP v9 pdf manual shows you the different options at page 127 > > for column 6 and 7 > AL_SetColumnLongProperty (eList;6;ALP_Column_BackColor;0xFFAAEECC) > AL_SetColumnLongProperty (eList;7;ALP_Column_BackColor;0xFFAAEECC) Thanks to everyone that

AreaList Pro Column Background Color

2019-05-12 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
AreaList Pro question… I have an array based area that has columns for each day of the week. I want to have the Sunday and Saturday columns show with a light gray background. I can set the background color for rows that have data, but the area is not always filled with data. So rows with no da

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 11, 2019, at 2:00 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > Got it working. The fix was to use the Admin account in the Log On tab. That > also fixed the Xojo WebApp. The fix did take until the server machine was > restarted. I also opened 4D server and database as Administrator before > restarting the

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 10, 2019, at 8:09 AM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > Tim, thank you for that most informative post. It really helps. I will be > switching my client's 4D Server to a service later this evening for the first > time. After reading your post I feel far more confident going forward. > > The client

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 9, 2019, at 2:00 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > I am new to this and am wondering how does one manage a 4D Server running as > a service. If, for example, the server throws an error there is no way to see > the error. I guess what I am asking is to confirm that there is no way to see > the s

Re: Printing an existing PDF File in Windows 10

2019-05-06 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 6, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Doug Cottril wrote: > Julio & all > > That does indeed, work. However, the SW_Hide parameter does not seem to > suppress the print > dialogs. Since I actually need to print multiple documents at once, the user > does not want to > press the print button after every

Re: 4D Security White Paper

2019-04-23 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 23, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Ronnie Teo wrote: > Does anyone know if 4D have published any white papers relating to security > specifically for 4D versions v15 and v17? > For example, my client would like to know what is the database encryption > strength level like for the above mentioned vers

Re: v17 Print Settings in a form's Property List

2019-04-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 10, 2019, at 1:20 PM, David Rose wrote: > So in a 64-bit environment, how do you save paper size, orientation etc. with > a form, so that PAGE SETUP ([MyTable];"MyForm") will load those settings? You might consider abandoning PAGE SETUP and instead use the SET PRINT OPTION command. It ca

Re: Error connecting to 4D Server

2019-04-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 8, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Stephen J. Orth wrote: > What exactly are you seeing on the Clients? Is this when someone is trying > to connect and they cannot? > > If so, that is not what we are seeing. What we get are the multiple errors > that started this thread, where already connected c

RE: Error connecting to 4D Server

2019-04-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Allan Udy wrote: > I haven't been following this thread closely Steve, but here's something > else to keep an eye on and consider > > We too are having issues with one of our customers (with Windows merged > app server), who has been having relatively frequent c

RE: Error connecting to 4D Server

2019-04-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Chip Scheide wrote: > not a merged server expert - at all - BUT > 4D server does (or at least did in earlier versions) reject new client > connections during a backup. > > it is possible that 4D server is doing a backup, changing the > setting/disabling connections

Re: Printing Structure Diagram

2019-03-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 30, 2019, at 2:00 PM, roofto...@mac.com wrote: > We are in the midst of analyzing a very old 4D application. We’d like to > print/plot/PDF a structure diagram, in all it’s glory, to hang on the wall. > It must represent all structure elements such as Tables, Fields, Relations, > Indexes

Re: Backup and journal file configurations

2019-03-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 25, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Jim Hays wrote: > I'm having trouble understanding how to control the use of backups and > journal files. > > Here are some things we do, or want to do: > - Deployed servers have backups fully configured, with logs, recovery > settings etc. > We're doing this, and ha

Re: Printing a PDF document from 4D

2019-03-19 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Julio Carneiro wrote: > Has anyone here had the need to print a PDF document from 4D, and found a > solution? > > I am not talking about generating a PDF from 4D. I have an existing PDF > document and I need 4D to print it for me! Exactly, user selects a PDF > docu

Doris Beaulieu 31 Year Anniversary at 4D

2019-03-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
LinkedIn sent out an email today that Doris Beaulieu has worked for 4D for 31 years, since March 1988. I’ve never known a time when she were not at 4D. Always there to greet developers and 4D Partners at every 4D Summit too. Congratulations! I hope they give her a party or something at 4D. She

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