On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Jorden Mauro wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:34 AM, David Leimbach
> wrote:
> > I don't know enough about sam's innards to be able to say whether or not
> > this could work, but I do like the idea.
>
> I think it's doab
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Tim Newsham wrote:
>
> > Hmm.. There's the OK-labs android stuff which virtualizes
> > android on top of L4. If only p9 was running on top of L4 :)
>
>
> Get cracking Tim! how hard can it be? :-)
>
> Actuall
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Gabriel Díaz wrote:
> hello
>
> "How do I get my employer to need plan9?"
>
> Given the experiences posted by some of the plan9 inventors in other
> thread, this seems to be an almost impossible task, unless you make your own
> business or change you're employer f
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Bela Valek wrote:
> 2010/3/12 erik quanstrom :
> >> How do other operating systems detect the available RAM? Could Plan 9
> >> use the same method?
> >
> > plan 9 uses the same methods for detecting ram
> > everyone else does. perhaps we trust bios too much,
> >
Cool!
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:21 AM, wrote:
> 9load will be gone soon. muzgo and i are working on 9pcload wich will
> use /dev/reboot to start the final kernel and use the native plan9
> drivers. 9pcload will itself be loaded by some simple bootblocks. we
> have iso (el torito in non emulat
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:47 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Stuart Morrow
> wrote:
>
> > so, are you basically saying that linux is a complex operating system,
> > and it just takes a genius to understand its complexity?
>
>
> no, it's just badly designed. Working wit
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM, EBo wrote:
> No! I'm glad that it is open source. I would not have even given it a
> second
> glance if it was not. If Linus had access to Plan 9 as a base I think
> things
> could have looked very different now, and possibly for the better.
>
I don't think th
It's fun to look back and see what people thought was going to be the
programming model we're being faced with though. Things seem more NUMA than
ever, or at least heading that way, even on the desktop.
Intel's 48 core demo CPU doodad has a mesh network behind the scenes for
reasons of scalabilit
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Mon Mar 22 16:22:15 EDT 2010, n...@lsub.org wrote:
> > It would help being able to "append" to a directory, i.e., being able to
> > create new files but not to, say, remove, already created files.
>
> i considered modifying the fileserver
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
> > when I'm reading the mail on my imap server
> > with nedmail, and I want to save a message, I get
> >
> > : 3 w /tmp/3
> > !message disappeared
>
> I have no idea if this is related but in the early days with gmail it would
> automaticially
I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9.
That's really great. I never got beyond 2 :-)
Dave
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:59 AM, EBo wrote:
> I just wanted to take a moment to thank Iru and Erik for their help with
> getting Plan 9 installed natively on my 4 machi
The efficiency of XML when being processed by computers or humans proves
that it's neither machine nor human readable, despite all the advertising.
Dave
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Corey Thomasson wrote:
> Not really related, but I got a good laugh from this.
> As soon as I opened this ema
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Albert Skye wrote:
> > order is unnatural
>
> The Origins of Order: Self-Organization and Selection in Evolution
> by Stuart A. Kauffman
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Order-Self-Organization-Selection-Evolution/dp/0195079515
>
>
Why have facts when speculat
Wrong answer... He was also asking about any libraries or technologies that
Plan 9 might have, no one has answered that part of the question yet as far
as I know.
Dave
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:37 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> wrong list
>
>
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:02 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:51 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ron, when has plan9 stopped being state of the art?
>
> Remember, "the state of the are" does not mean "good".
>
> These new flint arrowheads are state of the art! I a
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:08 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> nice. It's nice to see the spirit of assembly language hacking is not
> being lost :-)
>
> ron
>
>
I actually miss it a great deal. I did more of that in college though than
I've ever had to do professionally, and the rust is surely there on m
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:29 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> at what point do we cry uncle and write
> an x86 16 bit loader/assembler?
>
> - erik
>
> I'd rather have an EFI loader working for Plan 9, but that's because i've
got all these macs laying around now... (old 32bit iMac upstairs is just
dying
Nice work!
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:57 AM, wrote:
> So it compiles without ado under Plan9! And it's pure C89 (POSIX is just
> for the framework, not for the code: I have removed unneeded
> dependencies). And it's all the latest versions of the programs.
>
> So some numbers:
>- You will
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:40 AM, roger peppe wrote:
> On 28 April 2010 19:42, ron minnich wrote:
> > We did a simple experiment recently: added a new 9p type called
> > Tstream, because this issue of streams vs. transactions has been
> > bugging me for years. The semantics are simple: it's a lot
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:22 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > what happens if the consumer is slow and the Rstream writer
> > blocks? how do you stop all the other replies on the connection
> > waiting for the consumer to get on with it?
>
> the tcp window closes. and the producer blocks.
>
> > in fa
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:43 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > What does 9P require to function? If TStream has the same or lesser
> > requirements, then there's no problem right? This comes back to my
> > wondering why we don't just use 9P to set up HTTP streams.
>
> see /sys/src/doc/il/il.ps
> - r
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:35 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > But then I start to wonder why we feel we want to compete with HTTP when
> it
> > already works, and is still fairly simple. Nothing wrong with improving
> 9P
> > I suppose, but what's so wrong with HTTP transfers that it warrants
> chang
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:34 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Wasn't IL somewhat abandoned because to make it as good as TCP you
> > basically had to implement TCP anyway?
>
> due to a failure of vision, the internet only does
> well with certain types of ip packets.
>
> il is still an excellent pro
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Tim Newsham wrote:
> But then I start to wonder why we feel we want to compete with HTTP when it
>> already works, and is still fairly simple. Nothing wrong with improving
>> 9P
>> I suppose, but what's so wrong with HTTP transfers that it warrants
>> changing
>
Hmmm is Op the same Op from Octopus?
Just making sure.
Dave
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> i think in almost all cases putting Op between 9P endpoints will
> solve the slowness problem of high rtt networks.
>
> >> But then I start to wonder why we
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:44 PM, C H Forsyth wrote:
> >But then I start to wonder why we feel we want to compete with HTTP when
> it
> >already works, and is still fairly simple.
>
> http is by no means simple, although yes, it could be still more
> complicated.
>
>
I guess I think it's simple b
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:23 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > The more interesting question is: who doesn't agree, and why?
> >
> > On 5/4/10, Pavel Klinkovsky wrote:
> >>> maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to
Trackballs Kensington has a nice 4 button one with a scroll ring that
I've been very very happy with.
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Don Bailey wrote:
> Sun Microsystems USB 3-button mouse has always been my preferred mouse
> for Plan 9. Still is. And they're cheap.
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010
is lguest the "winning" linux kernel technology of it's category today?
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:20 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> OK, lguest support is back and working. and commited.
>
> Console I/O is a tad more efficient. Since we're using this port for
> the HARE project I expect we'll continue t
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:58 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
> > is lguest the "winning" linux kernel technology of it's category today?
>
> It really depends on what you want. For us, and what we need, lguest wins.
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Ramon de Vera wrote:
> Maybe Seattle? ...if in October, the Picasso Exhibit is also on in the
> SAM as well (just saying).
>
Yeah but by then the Lusty Lady across the street from the SAM will have
shut its doors forever (also just saying).
Dave
>
> On Fri, May
I'd have pretty much no excuse for missing it... It's 20 minutes away :-)
On Saturday, May 8, 2010, ron minnich wrote:
> Skip and I have been talking offline. I do think seattle is looking
> better and better.
>
> - hub city
> - good mass transit to a likely meeting place AND hotels right from th
Ok, now I have to google for guruplugs...
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> thank you!
>
> the two guruplugs i had ordered arrived today. i was disappoint to
> find that i'll need to order the JTAG board before i can do anything.
> i didn't see this re
I am interested, and if we plan far enough ahead I might just be able to
make it to one :-)
Dave
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> are 9fans in the Puget Sound area interested in an informal
> meet-and-greet event? after a show of hands, i'll follow
Awesome! Looks like the big one can do 2x GigE and some home automation
stuff. Sounds like good fun for Plan 9.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:
> In the sheeva you can access the Jtag through the usb port...
>
> -
> Curiosity sKilled the cat
>
> G.
>
>
> On May 13, 201
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> > In the sheeva you can access the Jtag through the usb port...
>
> but the (newer) guruplug does not. it requires the "guruplug jtag
> board", for accessing the console and they don't make it obvious when
> you order t
Wow confusing and a little disappointing, but not unheard of :-)
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> they've got everyone confused. here's an informative thread:
>
> http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1551.msg9645#msg9645
>
> on the guruplu
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, EBo wrote:
>
> >
>
> http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/embedded-device-servers/xchip-direct.html
> >
> > But it's still pretty neat.
>
> How much more memory do you need?
>
> It supposedly has 256K (which seems a lot for this type of app). I
> noticed th
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > > It supposedly has 256K (which seems a lot for this type of app). I
> > > noticed that they provide the Gerber file, schematic and assembly
> diagrams,
> > > and probably everything needed to seriously hack the thing if you
> cannot
> >
On Sunday, May 16, 2010, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> kfs limits filenames to 28 characters, which can be a source of
>> irritation if you import files or save mail attachments from other
>> systems.
>
> surely that's trivially fixable.
>
>> For me, those two factors alone make up for any disparity in
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:22 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> http://bitbucket.org/rminnich/vx32
>
> this is my hack of vx32.
>
Were all of the binaries within recompiled against this code? Running 9vx
on my iMac is pretty smooth!
Dave
>
> It includes a ram block device, but more importantly, it sup
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:13 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:54 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
> > Were all of the binaries within recompiled against this code? Running
> 9vx
> > on my iMac is pretty smooth!
>
> Hm, not sure what you mean.
>
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:52 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:37 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
> > There were pre-built binaries in this cloned repo, I'm totally unable to
> > rebuild the Mac OS X binary, due to some "impossible constraint" in so
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:08 PM, wrote:
>
> > I'm stumped. Anyone have any ideas?
>
>
> Yes, what I have done is stop using replica. I pull source from
> bitbucket.org and build.
>
> Replica is an interesting idea that does not work in the
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:23 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:08 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > I'm stumped. Anyone have any ideas?
>>
>>
>> Yes, what I have done is
I think there's a new list for p9p stuff. Try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/plan9port-dev
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:10 AM, abdullah ibrahim wrote:
> i tried to configure mail to run it in p9p acme , i tried to run Mail
> in acme i got:
> Mail: cannot mount mail: dial unix!/tmp/ns.visof.:0
Edit ,
selects the whole thing doesn't it? When I want to clear out an entire Acme
window I just do Edit ,d for example.
I don't really use Acme Mail though, so I'm unsure of what the difference is
in "marking" vs "selecting"
Daev
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netic
Disable the floppy controller?
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I picked up an Intel Desktop Board D410PT today with the intention of using
> it
> to run 9atom but I am finding that it panics on boot regardless of any
> switches
> I might set in the BIOS:
>
>
> PB
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Martin Harriss wrote:
> Uriel wrote:
>
>> I recently made a fascinating archeological discovery:
>>
>> http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/humour/shaneys-plan9-faq
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> uriel
>>
>>
> Well that certainly clears it up for me.
>
> Markov Chains for the win.
What protocol did you choose for your mouse?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Markus Sonderegger wrote:
> hi,
> same here.
> did you find a solution?
>
> thanks
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:19 PM, yaroslav wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> The wheel on my Logitech USB mouse does not work. Injection of a f
AWESOME! I will try to round up some friends who may never have even seen
Plan 9 before as well.
Dave
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> Hello 9fans,
>
> On behalf of the IWP9 Planning Committee, I am pleased to announce
> that this year's workshop will
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:22 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> > AWESOME! I will try to round up some friends who may never have even
> seen
> > Plan 9 before as well.
> > Dave
>
>
> If we're going
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:42 AM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros
> wrote:
> > mousefs is another example.
> > I think I placed it in sources.
> > It's used here to redirect mice to other Plan 9s.
>
> That's how it always works, I write something and fo
Huh... I'll play around with it and see what's up :-)
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, ron minnich wrote:
> well maybe it's broke. What it's supposed to do is make it impossible
> to put your mouse in the middle of the window ... works in 9vx
>
> ron
>
>
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:39 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > I've come up with a basic idea, but before I go diving in I want to
> > run it by 9fans and get opinions. What I'm thinking is writing a
> > synthetic file system that will collect writes to /net; to simulate a
> > high-latency file copy,
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> 2. if today 16 machs are possible (and 128 on an intel xeon mp 7500?
>> 8 sockets * 8 core * 2t = 128), what do we expect in 5 years? 128?
>>
>
> www.seamicro.com
>
> There's a 100 core MIPS-like board available now too.
http://www.til
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Rob Pike wrote:
> "The essence of XML is this: the problem it solves is not hard, and it
> does not solve the problem well." -- Phil Wadler, POPL 2003
>
> -rob
>
>
I love Wadler's work.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> Now that I remember, we recently added some demos for
> o/live & octopus to the http://lsub.org/ls/demos.html
> page and we didn't post here to let 9fans know.
>
Thanks, this is very cool. I'm considering setting up a PC at my off
http://warmouse.com/pr062810.html
Looks complicated.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:11 PM, John Floren wrote:
>
>> Hey, there's a way to end the mouse/keyboard switching argument once
>> and for all! With 18 buttons, you can just make the mouse a chording
>> keyboard as well and never move your hand
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:47 AM, hugo rivera wrote:
> Now that I had a closer look to xml files, I think I get the main idea.
> From my point of view, xml doesn't seem so bad after all (please,
> please, this is just an uninformed opinion) but perhaps in the future
> I'll be able to see its defec
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:04 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Thanks Erik, Sape, and Skip. That was such a STUPID error, and I thank
> > you all for the extra eyes. I think it is time for a break and a bowl of
> > tea...
>
> relax. not stupid, subtle. it takes vigilance to keep
> sizeof, nelem, s
Just got one of these today, and I suspect my problem has nothing to do with
the guruplug and everything to do with the fact that I've never set up any
PXE bootable systems before to mount a Plan 9 CPUAUTHFS service.
I'm getting
"ktrace /kernel/path 0x60806f34 0x6095cf30 0x6095cf6d # pc, sp, linki
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Just got one of these today, and I suspect my problem has nothing to do
> with
> > the guruplug and everything to do with the fact that I've never set up
> any
> > PXE bootable systems before to mount a Plan 9 CPUAUTHFS service.
> >
> > I'
I just built the CONF=plug
Let me see what that includes. Maybe my sources are just really old.
Dave
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> do you compile in an nvram (that includes the correct rights?)
>
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM, erik quanstro
plug included nvram, so I'm not sure what's going on. Still trying to
figure out if I should just be able to mount this thing from another machine
to test.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:48 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> I just built the CONF=plug
>
> Let me see what that includes
pipe
proc
mnt
srv
dup
rtc
arch
ssl
tls
cap
kprof
aoe
sd
flash
# pnp pci
ether netif
ip arp chandial ip ipv6 ipaux iproute netlog nullmedium pktmedium ptclbsum
inferno
## draw screen vga vgax
## mouse mouse
## vga
# kbmap
## kbin
uart
usb
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:52 PM, David Leimbach wrot
ddress[no default]: 192.168.1.250
bootpanic: boot process died: unknown
ktrace /kernel/path 0x60806f14 0x6099ff50 0x6099ff8d # pc, sp, linkion
refused
panic: boot process died: unknown
cpu0: exiting
reset!
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:43 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> The part that confuses
Ok, now I can't remember what I just did, but it's working.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> I found something on a french Plan 9 translation site about dd'ing my nvram
> from my PC to a file in /sys/src/9/kw then building.
>
> This seems
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:07 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Tue Aug 31 03:27:52 EDT 2010, leim...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Ok, now I can't remember what I just did, but it's working.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:59 PM, David Leimbach
&g
In short. Physical access trumps all other locking mechanisms anyway.
CPU servers were not meant to be workstations, and the lack of a screen lock
shows that. But then workstations are easily stolen. 2 were taken from the
building where I work in the last weeks at a law firm office (we share ou
I've seen a little bit of information about trying to go to LLVM for
Inferno, and getting LLVM on Plan 9 natively (feasibility anyway), and I was
wondering if there's any official projects chasing this in earnest?
Now that I've got an ARM and an x86 plan 9 instance up, I might have some
time, but
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:19 AM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Looking over my notes it appears the only thing I had to do to prevent
> the
> > crash was enable my fossil FS's listening capabilities. Now the guruplug
> > gets a kernel and an FS every time.
>
> Yes, if you don't
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Nick LaForge wrote:
> Is this a trick to get C++ back on Plan9??
Actually I'm not as interested in C++ as others may be. I'm more interested
in the general capabilities of LLVM. It's a pretty nice target for making
little languages. There's tutorials for doin
et Plan 9 :-).
Dave
>
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:10:42 -0700, David Leimbach
> wrote:
>
> > I've seen a little bit of information about trying to go to LLVM for
> > Inferno, and getting LLVM on Plan 9 natively (feasibility anyway), and I
> was
> > wondering
Well I'm interested in Go on Plan 9, but I'm also interested in other
languages too, even one's people haven't written yet.
LLVM seems like pretty decent toolkit for building them up.
Dave
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Nick LaForge wrote:
> >There's tutorials for doing so from O'Caml
>
> [h
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Bakul Shah
> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:03:41 PDT David Leimbach
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Ori Bernstein
> wrote:
> >
> > > LLVM is written in C++, so you'd need C++ support on plan 9 first.
> Probably
>
On Monday, August 30, 2010, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> do you compile in an nvram (that includes the correct rights?)
>
Yeah, I dd'd the one from my boot disk on the CPU server.
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>>
>>> > Just got one of these today, and I
Been using this with all my Terminals on Mac OS X for the last week. It's
nice :-)
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:56 PM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> seems to fit nicely with acme and rio. looks better antialiased than
> not. let me know if you want it in size 14, of use ttf2subf yourselves
> if you l
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Paul Lalonde
> wrote:
> > I'd like to run it as a household control server, notwithstanding various
> > teething pains/devices. If I fail too badly, I can probably coerce Linux
> to
> > do what I need.
>
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Akshat wrote:
> Just for the official record: cifsd works perfectly fine with Windows 7.
>
> Cinap's approach to the problem of packet-based protocols is elegant,
> efficient, and through the invent of printf-alike functions, fits well with
> the Plan 9 programmin
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:39 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:32 PM, wrote:
> > You are probably interested in plan9 related issues, but you might be
> > interested in this as well: if you run cpu intensive stuff, the plug
> > will get hot. My plug practically killed 1 sd card
Gah! I totally forgot. What's the site again? I'm finding some lsub sites
when I google, but I don't think it's up today.
Dave
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:45 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> today is officially the last day for iwp9 registration.
> i'm going to extend that one week since i think man
Oops, it helps if you don't type in iw9p instead of iwp9.
Sorry for noise.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
> Gah! I totally forgot. What's the site again? I'm finding some lsub
> sites when I google, but I don't think it's up today.
>
I may not be able to come all 3 days (actually I'm sure I can't), but I was
wondering which days anyone thinks I *should* show up... :-)
Is monday the right day for me to try to take off?
Dave
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Ramon de Vera wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Where could I find the schedule of w
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:31 PM, andrey mirtchovski
> wrote:
> > let me know when the live streaming starts. don't want to miss any of
> > the joke made at my expense :P
> >
>
> being as its live, it should start when the conference sta
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> FWIW, it's working fine from here, at Madrid.
> Thanks a lot for the broadcast :)
>
Only thing working fine here is the ads :-). It seems to be archiving ok,
but the livestream servers are totally horked for me right now
>
>
>
Yeah it looks great now.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:24 PM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> i found the video on demand working fine after people had dispersed
> for the lunch break.
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Steve Simon wrote:
> > unwatchable here too sadly,
> > geoff's talk is fine up to
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Max E wrote:
> If I recall correctly, "Ape" is a complete POSIX implementation
> including Bourne shell, C libraries, etc. I think there are also ports
> of some of the GNU extended utilities as well.
>
Not to mention you can get firefox to run under linuxemu if
I've used that sshnet trick many many times. I just wish it supported a
newer version of ssh :-)
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
> the twitter example you gave is perhaps too simple, could the tweets
> not just be text written to a publicly writable file. the users could
> c
My latest solution was to run a Plan 9 VM and use it :-). But no :-(
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:43 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> /sys/src/9/beagle
>
> I think it works but have not run it for some time.
>
>
> On this note ... anybody figured out FTDI and OSX? I have no serial to
> my ARMs any more.
>
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki
I get "Object not found"
Ah... alright.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jacob Todd wrote:
> Iirc eric made something to report these things to the correct people.
> There's a group called 9nag on google groups that it uses.
>
I guess I do not understand how 9p doesn't support pipelining. All
requests are tagged and can be dealt with between client and server in
any order right?
On Wednesday, October 13, 2010, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
> For folks interested in more info on the πp portion of Noah's Osprey talk,
> An
2010/10/13 roger peppe
> 2010/10/13 David Leimbach :
> > I guess I do not understand how 9p doesn't support pipelining. All
> > requests are tagged and can be dealt with between client and server in
> > any order right?
>
> two issues (at least):
>
>
Plan 9'on ARM makes a lot of sense to me. I still think x86 is
worthwhile though.
On Wednesday, October 13, 2010, John Floren wrote:
> I've consumed the Kool-Aid and now believe that ARM is the proper
> future for Plan 9. With Gumstix, you can get USB, DVI, audio, storage,
> ethernet, wifi, 3G,
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Axel Belinfante <
axel.belinfa...@cs.utwente.nl> wrote:
>
> On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:32 , David du Colombier wrote:
>
> And many thanks to ericvh that allowed people like me,
>> who could not afford the trip, to attend every talk through
>> livestream.com.
>>
>> It
2010/10/14 Latchesar Ionkov
> It can't be dealt with the current protocol. It doesn't guarantee that
> Topen will be executed once Twalk is done. So can get Rerrors even if
> Twalk succeeds.
>
>
It can be dealt with if the scheduling of the pipeline is done properly.
You just have to eliminate t
2010/10/15 Sape Mullender
> Are we talking about πP or 9P?
>
It's about both. I was just curious about how 9P was deficient in terms of
pipelining. It might not be optimal for all cases of pipelining, but the
protocol seems to support it in certain cases just fine.
ΠP deals with it in a super
the cache, in the worst case,
> knows
> that it has to issue a single rpc to the server.
>
> Somehow, you need to group requests to retain the idea that a bunch of
> requests have some meaning as a whole.
>
> 2010/10/15 David Leimbach :
> >
> >
> > 2010/10/14
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