Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread Steve Simon
time to write. my big question is How do I get my employer to need plan9? -Steve

Re: [9fans] DNS dynamic update

2010-03-17 Thread Steve Simon
a special case for plan9 clients. FWIW there is another weirdness of windows, the windows DHCP server doesn't communicate with the DNS server on windows, it expects the client to send an Inform packet to the DHCP server telling it of the clients chosen name. -Steve

Re: [9fans] sdiahci.c driver

2010-03-12 Thread Steve Simon
and vesa drivers. Anyone tested it? I have 1600x1200x16 at work on an nvidia card. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Datakit documentation

2010-03-09 Thread Steve Simon
This is the paper contains detail of the low level protocol. I have a paper copy but due to moving house that is out of reach for quite a while. A. G. Fraser, Early Experiment with Asynchronous Time Division Networks, IEEE Networks, pp. 12-26, Jan. 1993. -Steve

[9fans] nb—search and index notes in files by k eyword

2010-03-08 Thread Steve Simon
, its just a matter of exactly what your problem is. Mine is a relatively small amount of rather dynamic data. if you want it I oprted it to APE here: contrib/install steve/seft -Steve

Re: [9fans] nb—search and index notes in files by k eyword

2010-03-08 Thread Steve Simon
grep doesn't (yet? :-). -Steve

[9fans] exec permission on plan9

2010-02-26 Thread Steve Simon
if the exec bit in the file's mode is not set. Is it another case of This is Plan9 not Unix or perhaps I am mis-remembering that too? -Steve

Re: [9fans] exec permission on plan9

2010-02-26 Thread Steve Simon
to open files with OEXEC as it is unlikely that I will be storing plan9 executables on windows. Thanks for the help guys. -Steve

Re: [9fans] exec permission on plan9

2010-02-26 Thread Steve Simon
is there a file named ls in the cifs directory? if not, wouldn't the bug be that the cifs server is allowing an open of a file that's not there? There is a file in the directory, its just not a plan9 executable, its an ARM ELF file. -Steve

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Simon
its down at the moment but it has been reliable for many years now. -Steve

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Simon
Is there an Amazon S3 based 9P server? Just thinking out loud... I thought brucee had one? -Steve

[9fans] leak(1) problem

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Simon
bounding function. Is this expected or have I done something silly? -Steve

Re: [9fans] Binary format

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Simon
very rarely on plan9 - I cannot remember the last time we had a big pull. It also neatly sidesteps the issue that different applications can need different versions of a single shared library. This is a real problem on some OSs (see 9fans passim). -Steve

Re: [9fans] Better Safe Than Sorry (Partitioning Question)

2010-02-15 Thread Steve Simon
need to truncate the HPFS partition to give more space for plan9 to use. I beleive there is some software which will allow you to truncate a windows partitions however I have never done this. -Steve

[9fans] New User with Problems

2010-02-08 Thread Steve
I've been scouring the Interwebs and haven't been able to find much of a solution. Yesterday I decided to give P9 a try and burned the ISO file available on Plan 9's installation page here: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/download/index.html It was the direct link to the CD image so none

Re: [9fans] How to extend a fossil filesystem with a second disk?

2010-02-08 Thread Steve Simon
of other. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Intel P45 chipset motherboard

2010-02-06 Thread Steve Simon
How can I stop starting rc and go to the console? Booting from cdrom is not possible at the moment. alternatively, if you have a network perhaps you could PXE boot the machine from another host and then mount and edit plan9.ini -Steve

Re: [9fans] not enough memory with fossil+venti standard setup

2010-01-30 Thread Steve Simon
. This works well for me as most of the tools I need on windows are command line based, for the few gui ones I need I vnc onto a machine. cifs is in the contrib package steve/cifs the dos(1) dosd(1) and listen(1) for windows are not reliably published (and not as well documented), but I can make them

Re: [9fans] How long should it take fossil to dump to venti (1st time around)

2010-01-26 Thread Steve Simon
It will take a very long time, espicially if your IDE controller is not known or it is and DMA is known to be problematic. I suggest you resign yourself to leaving the machine on for many hours, and then, when it stops rattling its disks, you shut it down (using the fshalt command). -Steve

Re: [9fans] arch specific executables

2010-01-25 Thread Steve Simon
i have a little program, aux/cpuid perhaps this would be better in /dev/cons/cpuid ? just my 2¢ -Steve

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-23 Thread Steve Simon
is very powerful, but takes some getting used to. Perhaps you need to give it a bit more time. -Steve

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Steve Simon
the only time I ever wanted this kind of feature is for grepping through sourcecode. ron's modified grep is now installed on my boxes; there is a precident (diff -r). -Steve

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-19 Thread Steve Simon
(in the vein of popi) looks like a solution but I have never go further than wishful thinking. -Steve

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread Steve Simon
1990s from their work on a reconfigurable FPGA based image processing engine. -Steve

[9fans] SVN

2010-01-18 Thread Steve Simon
I am told that the company I work for have decided to move from CVS to SVN, so I have to follow. Has anyone ported SVN to plan9 (I only need the client side), or alternatively is anyone using linuxemu to run the Linux binary? -Steve

Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9

2010-01-11 Thread Steve Simon
as it was a bit of a pain copying the venti arenas from my old server (it need a 50 line script rather than a single command). -Steve

Re: [9fans] Just one piece o' help.

2010-01-11 Thread Steve Simon
or the author does not line contrib. These are usually downloaded as a tar file and can be built using mk(1) (the plan9 equivilent of make) - much as packages are installed with slackware (I beleive). -Steve

Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9

2010-01-11 Thread Steve Simon
a SUPERMICRO X7SLA-H to replace it on Erik's reccomendation and it works very well. There are some newer mini-itx cards from supermicro which also look interesting but I have no experience of them: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM Appologies for my bad memory. -Steve

[9fans] faces

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Simon
you have updated you local system you can the submit it to sources using patch(1) -Steve

[9fans] faces

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Simon
rather than crop so you only get black and white. Supply the picture as 48x48 resolution and you will be colourful -Steve

Re: [9fans] secstore account expired, how fix it using only drawterm

2010-01-04 Thread Steve Simon
with drawterm. I would be very surprised if this is the case, I don't use drawterm much but last time I tried it raw/cooked worked fine. All sorted now anyway Good -Steve

Re: [9fans] Broken Hardware List

2009-12-31 Thread Steve Simon
I can vouch for the Supermicro X7SLA-H card, with erik's help it is working absolutely solidly, its my main server and this email comes from said machine. hugo% uptime hugo up 52 days, 19:54:04 Not up to Andrey's numbers but I didn't buy it that long ago. -Steve

Re: [9fans] du and find

2009-12-28 Thread Steve Simon
but arguably more complex. -Steve

[9fans] tex

2009-12-08 Thread Steve Simon
somone was working on a modern port of TeX to plan9. did this work out? I would like to update my installation as I think I may be using LaTeX before long. -Steve

[9fans] OT concurrent C

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Simon
yesterday, it looks like a nice language, though its probably the braces around for's expressions that my C eyes yearn for (wrt go). -Steve

Re: [9fans] Scanners

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Simon
of problems as I have had dealings with the CIFS protocol in the past. -Steve

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Simon
I added this to my $home/bin/rc/pull script, it doesn't pull the contrib packages, but prints the commands to do so in case I want to do so. for(rep in `{ls /dist/replica | grep -v 'network|kfs|sourcesmirror|sources|plan9.proto|cd|client'} ) echo contrib/pull `{basename $rep} -Steve

Re: [9fans] after a recent pull ...

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Simon
I added: contrib/local [ -m ] [ -p ] Appologies for not reading the rest of my backlog and the subsequent noise -Steve

Re: [9fans] remote access to audio devices

2009-12-01 Thread Steve Simon
VNC can (has been) be a butt-saver' - but pales in comparison to remote desktop / remote X for relative responsiveness and seamlessness. My experience of serving a Windows desktop to a plan9 terminal is that TightVNC with the DFMirage Mirror driver works really well. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Examples of rc scripts

2009-11-21 Thread Steve Simon
of Byron's paper (in the source package). info here. http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/netlib/9fans/ http://rc-shell.slackmatic.org/ -Steve

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2009-11-17 Thread Steve Simon
Great, thats Geoff, My plug is susposed to be on its way... -Steve

Re: [9fans] troff and latin2, devpost

2009-11-09 Thread Steve Simon
Trying to make a document in Czech This might help (I have not done this myself) http://9fans.net/archive/2001/12/171 http://9fans.net/archive/2001/12/173 http://9fans.net/archive/2001/12/174 -Steve

[9fans] scsi DAT drives and plan9

2009-11-05 Thread Steve Simon
didn't work. It does generate a file bigfile but it only consists of a stream of zeros. does anyone use SCSI tapes (DAT or other types) these days? If it used to work, then when did you last use it - so I know where to look in venti for differences. Thanks. -Steve

[9fans] OT (again) PERT charts?

2009-11-04 Thread Steve Simon
the topological sort and CPM (Critical path method) analysis. Don't make me use MS Project, please... -Steve

[9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-29 Thread Steve Simon
points awarded for use of the branch operator :-) -Steve

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-25 Thread Steve Simon
I thought it was just wonderful, and noticed similar reactions from everyone else. It was a very fine meeting. Makes me even more sick I was unable to come. could somone post a quick summary of the plan9 extra-cirricular activities, e.g. was sheeva plug port was completed successfully? -Steve

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-20 Thread Steve Simon
more difficult to do well - i.e. to ensure you cannot see the joins. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

2009-10-17 Thread Steve Simon
I'm a tiny fish, this is the ocean. Nevertheless, I venture: there are already Cell-based expansion cards out there for real-time H.264/VC-1/MPEG-4 AVC encoding. Meaning, 1080p video in, H.264 stream out, real-time. Interesting, 1080p? you have a link? -Steve

Re: [9fans] dup(3)

2009-10-16 Thread Steve Simon
@{builtin cd $1 tar cf /fd/1 .} | @{builtin cd $2 tar xTf /fd/0} the /fd/1 and /fd/0 fererences ensure that dircp will work with ape's tar which doesn't read/write stdin/stdout by default like plan9's does. -Steve

Re: [9fans] resample(1) 1 and fancy graphics tools 0

2009-10-16 Thread Steve Simon
the interframe differences WRT the reference (first) frame do not conform to this model. An example makes things clear - appologies for the poor quality of the joke. http://www.quintile.net/doorstep/broken-animated-image.gif -Steve

Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)

2009-10-08 Thread Steve Simon
the large, complex, fault tolerant Unix system that they built to replace them still didn't work well enough to be relied on. -Steve

Re: [9fans] /sys/src/9/ip/ip.h

2009-10-04 Thread Steve Simon
it on my To-do list to add a -m (merge) option to replica to do just this; one day. -Steve

Re: [9fans] replica under 9vx

2009-10-04 Thread Steve Simon
to make some combinations mutually exclusive. -Steve

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-03 Thread Steve Simon
of it as OS patina. -Steve

Re: [9fans] bluetooth

2009-09-24 Thread Steve Simon
Fantastic work Richard, I too will be very interested in playing with this once you are ready. The only one thought - probably not mentioned as it is so obvious, it would be neat if the plumber and thus auth/fgui could be pressed into service for entering the pairing PIN. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Netbooting from Qemu

2009-09-18 Thread Steve Simon
I would have thought a small USB stick would be the way to go, My latest motherboard even had one USB port inside the case for just this kind of thing. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Blocks in C

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Simon
this machine fake emails I have a feeling that that can annoy fossil, and also speed up the rate of taking temporary snaps which others have reported as being a source of problems. -Steve

[9fans] disabling swap

2009-09-14 Thread Steve Simon
is indicating that I _do_ have swap enabled. either way I should not have been swapping as I have masses of free RAM. -Steve (confused) cpu% acid /386/9pccpuf /386/9pccpuf:386 plan 9 boot image /sys/lib/acid/port /sys/lib/acid/386 acid: src(0xf01d3968) /sys/src/9/port/fault.c:231 226

Re: [9fans] problems when hwaccel off or in inferno

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Simon
So is it so that anybody using vesa should see it... I use the vesa driver occasionally on my Atom motherboard (Intel 940?) and have had no such droppings, so the problem isn't universal. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Interested in improving networking in Plan 9

2009-09-03 Thread Steve Simon
if interested see the steve/mysqlfs contrib package -Steve

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Simon
times I have had to change plan9.ini from somthing else than the booted system (because I have broken the boot process) I booted the plan9 live cdrom. I would be happy if 9load and 9fat disappeared and it was replaced with a plan9 bootstrap kernel and (say) an rc(1) script. -Steve

Re: [9fans] dformat

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Simon
Anybody have a copy of dformat online? http://www.troff.org/source.html -Steve

Re: [9fans] The CW font with Lucidasans

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Simon
I usually add these to my document .FP lucidasans .de EX .SM .CW .DS .. .de EE .DE .R .LG .. And then use .EX and .EE around code examples (concept lifted from the man macros). This is from memory, its probably more pedantic/verbose than necessary, but it works. -Steve

Re: [9fans] ugly eqn/troff result

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Simon
Really nobody uses 'eqn' these days?... I use it occasionally, I just don't know how to help you with your problem. -Steve

Re: [9fans] ndb/dns as a slave

2009-08-22 Thread Steve Simon
I assume your master DNS is served from bind, then you can use the zonefresh program in my contrib to build an ndb compatible ndb file for your local dns to serve. -Steve

[9fans] lspci for windows (sort of)

2009-08-20 Thread Steve Simon
\VEN_8086DEV_27DFSUBSYS_280C103CREV_01\3B1BFB680F9 : Intel(R) 82801GB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF PCI\VEN_8086DEV_27E0SUBSYS_REV_01\3B1BFB680E4 : Intel(R) 82801GB PCI Express Root Port - 27E0 PCI\VEN_8086DEV_27E2SUBSYS_REV_01\3B1BFB680E5 : Intel(R) 82801GB PCI Express Root Port - 27E2 -Steve

Re: [9fans] drawterm hangups

2009-08-18 Thread Steve Simon
I am using ppc drawterm under osx quite a bit and have never seen this problem. Not sure if that helps or not... -Steve

Re: [9fans] 9fans.net/archive/ google index

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Kostecke
wondering. Why doesn't google index our archive? Even very old posts are often note found with google's search. Anybody have an idea? Searching Google for site:9fans.net/archive/2009/08 just returned 8 hits . -- Steve Kostecke st...@kostecke.net I am a citizen, not a consumer. I am a human

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Simon
, not that you can chose an arbitary PDF and ask for it to be printed and bound - unless nemo has done this and I missed the link? I would also be interested a printed and bound copy of the 3rd edition kernel source and commentry... -Steve

Re: [9fans] make slides in plan 9

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Simon
How to make slides in plan 9 rsc has an example /n/sources/rsc/talk/* I have used the usenix-era troff foils macros quite often recently. /n/sources/contrib/steve/foils.tgz TeX is available seperately - created a contrib package for it or there is an iso (which has bitrotted a little

[9fans] copying a venti

2009-08-16 Thread Steve Simon
to be exactly what I should be using, but how do I generate a score to copy the whole venti tree? Thanks, -Steve

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

2009-08-15 Thread Steve Simon
re: /etc/ssh/sshd_config on unix to support sshv1 see: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Connecting_to_other_OSes/index.html -Steve

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

2009-08-12 Thread Steve Simon
it is a shame that the image manipulation tools are not in img/xxx -Steve

Re: [9fans] machine key, secstore key, hostowner password

2009-08-10 Thread Steve Simon
need access to the server's /dev/kmesg or devices. -Steve

Re: [9fans] machine key, secstore key, hostowner password

2009-08-10 Thread Steve Simon
the hostowner is the owner of the machine, but they are also a user on plan9 so they need an entry on the auth database. the passwords in the auth database and the nvram must match or you will not be able to cpu or 9fs to this box, authentication will not work. -Steve

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-10 Thread Steve Simon
) then these commands are run for you (cat /sys/lib/newuser for more info). -Steve

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Simon
...by the curmudgeonly 9fans... For those who follow British comedy: Father Jack, my alter ego! Others may find this enlightening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHiDhERvJ4I -Steve

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Simon
As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc). The floppys are here: /n/sources/contrib/steve/historic/2nd-edition/pcdist/ I found a complete

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-06 Thread Steve Simon
I cannot imageine the senario where random people will have access to the cpu/auth/file server's consoles. It just doesn't happen if you are serious about security. However if you want to protect your console against your friends I wrote a script to do it /n/sources/contrib/steve/rc/conslock you

Re: [9fans] ceph

2009-08-04 Thread Steve Simon
/APIs as fs. Sadly the Fuse fs I have seen have mostly been disappointing.There are a few I which would be handy on plan9 (gmail, ipod, svn) but most seem less useful. -Steve

[9fans] refer

2009-08-04 Thread Steve Simon
I have packaged up Forsyth's port of refer as a contrib package with a kindly donated bin2ref program and a mkfile to pull down the plan9 bibliobraphy referenced on 9fans a while back. Might be of use to those writing papers for iw9p. -Steve

Re: [9fans] iso experiment

2009-08-03 Thread Steve Simon
cannot turn it off (teh numlock key has no effect). -Steve

Re: [9fans] iso experiment

2009-08-03 Thread Steve Simon
Ok, I'al try my keyboard mod and I borrowed a DVDROM drive from work, just to see if that works any better. -Steve

Re: [9fans] iso experiment

2009-08-03 Thread Steve Simon
Appologies for the noise everyone.

Re: [9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question

2009-08-02 Thread Steve Simon
Also, are the old sources available online somewhere so I can do this kind of diff in the future on my own? you can use history(1) and yesterday(1) against sources. 9fs sources history -D sourcesdump /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/pc/vgavesa.c -Steve

Re: [9fans] detecting drawterm

2009-07-31 Thread Steve Simon
upas/fs exec rio -s -i startup } note the secstore device created by drawterm which I push into my new factotum and then clean out (just in case). -Steve

Re: [9fans] nvram

2009-07-30 Thread Steve Simon
process to die. -Steve

Re: [9fans] off topic: manual sets

2009-07-30 Thread Steve Simon
also, do you know about: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/7thEdMan/ -Steve

Re: [9fans] how to fix: 'arena arenas00 creation time after last write time'

2009-07-29 Thread Steve Simon
I'am afraid. -Steve

Re: [9fans] how to fix: 'arena arenas00 creation time after last write time'

2009-07-28 Thread Steve Simon
was wrong. there is a recuring problem that Windows sets the RTC to localtime whereas Unix expects it to be UTC. There is an option to timesync to inform it if you want to continue using localtime on your RTC (because you want to dual boot with windows). -Steve

Re: [9fans] plan9port behind corporate firewall with no DNS or port access

2009-07-25 Thread Steve Simon
connection and expands it as a hierarchy. You could probably write some tunneling software to run on your home machine and work machine using http in between, but your corperate IT department might not see the funny side of such practices... -Steve

Re: [9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern browser?

2009-07-23 Thread Steve Simon
. assuming you have signed up and put your key in /lib/gmapkey you can see exactly where I am at with: /n/sources/contrib/steve/rc/gmap -s eastleigh road, havant [credit to erik for the much needed polishing of this tool] -Steve

Re: [9fans] dcp - a deep copy script, better than dircp

2009-07-20 Thread Steve Simon
mechnism then can I suggest either fossil and venti, or, mk9660(8). mk9660 creates a dump-like heirarchy in a single ISO image, mergeing multiple dumps into the single ISO, stripping dumplicate files as it goes; kudos to wkj I believe. -Steve

Re: [9fans] multiport serial

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Simon
I have used an isa card with the 4th edition, so I know they work, however I haven't tried for quite a few years - it might have bitrotted. [Beware whistfull ramblings] Twas an Adaptec 1542, I even upgraded its firmware once, with a UV lightbox and an EPROM programmer... -Steve

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

2009-07-15 Thread Steve Simon
buffer. I keep the commands or scripts I need to test the code in rio's snarf, when I am ready to try things I just click the rio window and Button 2 to execute send. -Steve

Re: [9fans] preprocessing C code

2009-07-14 Thread Steve Simon
I'm APE-porting some programs densely peppered wioth #-directives. I have this too, try: contrib/install steve/unifdef -Steve

Re: [9fans] plan 9 interface color ergonomy

2009-07-13 Thread Steve Simon
...a colour space diagram showing the range a monitor... More info than you wanted here: http://www.poynton.com/Poynton-color.html -Steve

Re: [9fans] data analysis on plan9

2009-07-10 Thread Steve Simon
contrib/list [-v] [[user]/package] -v is verbose user and package restrict the output to that user on that users package only. see contrib(1) -Steve

Re: [9fans] timesync -r not working?

2009-07-07 Thread Steve Kostecke
see http://www.pool.ntp.org/ for a list of pool zones (and more infomation about the pool). -- Steve Kostecke st...@kostecke.net I am a citizen, not a consumer. I am a human being, not a revenue source. Public Key at gopher://kostecke.net or `finger st...@kostecke.net`

Re: [9fans] I have two questions

2009-07-07 Thread Steve Simon
tex is availabe as an old ISO /n/sources/extra/tex.iso.bz2, this expects you to have kfs as your main filesystem - but you can fake this with a couple of binds before running replica/pull. I installed this image, recompiled it, and pushed it out as a contrib package steve/tex. I had a look

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