Lyndon,
Did you get it to run on OpenBSD?
J.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 5:49 AM Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote in
> <0903a00d50966...@orthanc.ca>:
> |Steffen Nurpmeso writes:
> |> It can even be as small as
> |>
> |> #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .
> |> 17
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote in
<0903a00d50966...@orthanc.ca>:
|Steffen Nurpmeso writes:
|> It can even be as small as
|>
|> #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .
|> 179M.
|>
|> when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at
|> least track the FreeBSD git repositor
tlaronde pointed me at the APL that shipped in the contrib
directory in 4.3BSD. In hindsight I suspect that was the
version I spun up at Athabasca U way back when (1989ish).
I was quite surprised to see that a substantial chunk of it
managed to compile 'out of the box' on OpenBSD 6.8 (albeit
with
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 02:57:44AM -0700, arn...@skeeve.com wrote:
> This is getting off topic ...
>
Yes... ;-)
> > > There was an interpreter for P-code and (I think later) a compiler
> > > for the Vax. You'd have to port it to current architectures, and
> > > compiling TeX would probably make
This is getting off topic ...
> > There was an interpreter for P-code and (I think later) a compiler
> > for the Vax. You'd have to port it to current architectures, and
> > compiling TeX would probably make TeX run more slowly than the C version.
> >
> > The Berkeley Pascals were some of the com
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 01:58:16AM -0700, arn...@skeeve.com wrote:
> tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 09:44:54PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> > > I'm fairly sure Thompson wrote it on sabbatical in Berkeley. I think he
> > > also wrote the first version of a Pascal compi
tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 09:44:54PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> > I'm fairly sure Thompson wrote it on sabbatical in Berkeley. I think he
> > also wrote the first version of a Pascal compiler.
> > Pascal isn't a difficult language but I remember that compiler havin
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 09:44:54PM +, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> I'm fairly sure Thompson wrote it on sabbatical in Berkeley. I think he
> also wrote the first version of a Pascal compiler.
> Pascal isn't a difficult language but I remember that compiler having an
> unusual style. I think others
Hello,
FWIW, I have put two versions I found under kergis.com downloads zone:
http://downloads.kergis.com/misc/apl4_0.tar.gz
and
http://downloads.kergis.com/misc/apl4_3.tar.gz
The version number is relative to the BSD version it was released with.
The 4.0 has a cat1 man page mentioning Ken Th
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 8:41 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
>
> Quoth Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) :
>> Steffen Nurpmeso writes:
>>
>>> It can even be as small as
>>>
>>> #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .
>>> 179M.
>>>
>>> when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at
>>>
o...@eigenstate.org writes:
> git clone --single-branch \
> --branch Research-V4-Snapshot-Development \
I must be blind. I completely glossed over 'single-branch'.
But I might have to go back to the SCCS archive on the CDs,
anyway, since Spinellis' repo doesn't seem to ha
Quoth Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) :
> Steffen Nurpmeso writes:
>
> > It can even be as small as
> >
> > #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .
> > 179M.
> >
> > when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at
> > least track the FreeBSD git repository directly):
>
> Okay, so wha
Steffen Nurpmeso writes:
> It can even be as small as
>
> #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .
> 179M.
>
> when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at
> least track the FreeBSD git repository directly):
Okay, so what's the magic incantation to clone just that subset
of branches
Clearly someone ran lint on the ucb code :-) Both have the iline variable
(char* on Cain's version, unsigned char* in ucb).
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Charles Forsyth
> wrote:
>
> It's more interesting that one is immediate by inspection. But why?
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:10 PM Bakul
Bakul Shah wrote in
<5c11a3ac-a66c-4336-bf37-55db2c4eb...@iitbombay.org>:
|Spinellis has put together a browsable repo based on various source \
|distributions
|which I find useful. I keep a local copy as it is under 2GB. All I \
It can even be as small as
#?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .
17
It's more interesting that one is immediate by inspection. But why?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:10 PM Bakul Shah wrote:
> Spinellis has put together a browsable repo based on various source
> distributions
> which I find useful. I keep a local copy as it is under 2GB. All I had to
> do was
>
> gi
Spinellis has put together a browsable repo based on various source
distributions
which I find useful. I keep a local copy as it is under 2GB. All I had to do
was
git log | less -ip "ross harvey"
Michael Cain's version on sigapl.org site seems to be a different fork. Also
worked
over quite a
It's amusing that the github has "42 years ago".
You can tell instantly that the line
if (TERMtype == 0)c = (int)*iline++;
wasn't written by Thompson.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:02 PM Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 10:28 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
> >
> > There are various version
On Feb 22, 2021, at 10:28 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
>
> There are various versions of an APL interpreter and, amongst these,
> a version by Ken Thompson, Ross Harvey, Douglas Lanam.
This can be found in Diomidis Spinellis' unix history repo @
https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo
I'm fairly sure Thompson wrote it on sabbatical in Berkeley. I think he
also wrote the first version of a Pascal compiler.
Pascal isn't a difficult language but I remember that compiler having an
unusual style. I think others reworked it significantly later,
so if it's there at all it's worth looki
tlaro...@polynum.com writes:
> There are various versions of an APL interpreter and, amongst these,
> a version by Ken Thompson, Ross Harvey, Douglas Lanam.
>
> Is that this one you are looking for?
That sounds like the one. It's entirely possible the version I
started with came from one of the
Hello,
I have the CSRG Archives CDROM set, with archives from 1978 to 1993
and final 4.4 and 4.4BSD-Lite2.
There are various versions of an APL interpreter and, amongst these,
a version by Ken Thompson, Ross Harvey, Douglas Lanam.
Is that this one you are looking for?
Apparently Caldera has gra
j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:
> Lyndon,
>
> Let us know if you find that source as it unfortunately doesn't appear to be
> on netlib.org.
>
> P.S. Yes I know there are a million other APLs out there, as
> well as J and the assorted follow-ons. It's the V7 code I'm
> specifically interested in
Lyndon,
Let us know if you find that source as it unfortunately doesn't appear to be on
netlib.org.
P.S. Yes I know there are a million other APLs out there, as
well as J and the assorted follow-ons. It's the V7 code I'm
specifically interested in. Maybe it's tucked away in the
bitsaver archi
On Feb 21, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
wrote:
> I would really like to have a native APL (even an ancient one like above).
Not quite what you asked for but ktye’s APL seems promising. Written in Go,
uses unicode APL characters, etc.
https://github.com/ktye/iv
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On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:31:13PM -0800, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
wrote:
> Failing that, does anybody have a copy of the original source
> kicking around? Since the virus is going to keep me locked up
> for a few more months yet, porting would help pass the time :-)
Michael Cain's code
Have you seen Rob's Ivy? It's in Go.
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 2:32 PM Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) <
lyn...@orthanc.ca> wrote:
> Long ago and far away I built/ran Thompson's APL (from the V7 source
> tape IIRC) on one of the VAXen. This was very much pre-ANSI C code,
> but the Ultrix 1.1 compil
Long ago and far away I built/ran Thompson's APL (from the V7 source
tape IIRC) on one of the VAXen. This was very much pre-ANSI C code,
but the Ultrix 1.1 compiler handled it fine.
About 15 years ago I dusted off the source and started converting
it to ANSI C, but I got distracted and have since
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 17:53, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote:
> I would love to know what you did for OpenBSD.
> I am stuck with the linux version on FreeBSD for now.
> Do all the test pass on OpenBSD? Do all the 15!: actually work?
> For Plan 9, we can just get rid of libedit and make jconsole a lot simpler
> On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:35 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
>
> But. There are several parts of the system: jlibrary, jconsole, jqt.
> The first two I finally managed to compile on OpenBSD, I failed with
> jqt (which is a very nice qt-based environment, btw.) And nobody will
> use the latter on Plan9.
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 08:35:23 +0200 Rudolf Sykora
wrote:
> I also note that there now exists a GPL'd version of the K language,
> Kona. That one was straightforward to build on OpenBSD.
Kona uses mmap so not so easy to port. If you are used to
normal C style, kona code style will be very hard to
Hello,
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 19:36, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
> > There's a Plan 9 port of J 3.02 in /n/sources/contrib/miller/j/8.j
> >
> > 386 executable only, as I don't have permission to share source, but I can
> > compile for other $objtypes on request.
>
> I recall the port
Ethan Gardener writes:
> Is there an implementation of APL or a related language for Plan 9?
For pure APL, I don't think so. Long ago I ran the Thompson APL
interpreter on our Ultrix VAX. It was built from source, but I
forget which tape it came from. It would have been one of V7 or
4.2BSD, m
On 2009-07-10 I announced this in 9fans:
> There's a Plan 9 port of J 3.02 in /n/sources/contrib/miller/j/8.j
>
> 386 executable only, as I don't have permission to share source, but I can
> compile for other $objtypes on request.
I recall the port being very simple to do, so it would probably be
and there is J, from the same stable as APL and its natural successor
but using only ascii characters:
http://www.jsoftware.com/ - sources under GPL v3 dual licence
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 14:42, Ethan Gardener wrote:
>
> Is there an implementation of APL or a related language for Plan 9?
>
> --
>
On Sep 6, 2018, at 6:41 AM, Ethan Gardener wrote:
>
> Is there an implementation of APL or a related language for Plan 9?
http://t3x.org/klong/ Though it is not as nice as k or kona. Rob Pike’s
ivy may compile on plan9, it being implemented in go.
I know nothing of any pure APL for p9 or related systems,
but theres A+:
http://www.aplusdev.org/
which is GPLed, so could, theoretically, be ported.
On Sep 06, 2018, at 02:43 PM, Ethan Gardener wrote:
Is there an implementation of APL or a related language for Plan 9?
--
The lyf so short,
Is there an implementation of APL or a related language for Plan 9?
--
The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer
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