Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-28 Thread Georg Lehner
Jack Johnson wrote: Thanks to Google's targeted ads: http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-2gb-hd.aspx Also might make a good Inferno device if WinCE isn't too firmly ensconced. -Jack Anybody interested in porting Inferno emu to WinCE? It

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-24 Thread Jack Johnson
Thanks to Google's targeted ads: http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-2gb-hd.aspx Also might make a good Inferno device if WinCE isn't too firmly ensconced. -Jack

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread Tim Newsham
However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day on battery might actually be worth it, and the feature is so damn trivial to do with Plan 9 - setting/unsetting the ring tone to/from silent in a cron job. I

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread Tim Newsham
android on top of L4.  If only p9 was running on top of L4 :) Get cracking Tim! how hard can it be? :-) Honestly, I think it would loads of fun to do, but I probably wouldn't use it myself once done, I don't have the free time to do it, and I don't know of a way to do it for work... ron

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread Steve Simon
Honestly, I think it would loads of fun to do, but I probably wouldn't use it myself once done, I don't have the free time to do it, and I don't know of a way to do it for work... The story of my (plan9) life... I should add that there is also lots of stuff I _would_ use that I don't have

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread Gabriel Díaz
discouraging for a fan who has the hope to get his employer need plan9 i think. I already gave up on this. slds. gabi - Original Message From: Steve Simon st...@quintile.net To: 9fans@9fans.net Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 9:04:56 AM Subject: Re: [9fans] more little hardware Honestly, I think

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread erik quanstrom
my big question is How do I get my employer to need plan9? by careful choise of employer? ☺ - erik

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread Patrick Kelly
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 08:46 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: my big question is How do I get my employer to need plan9? by careful choise of employer? ☺ Or become the employer Seriously though, ask around, see if theres a use for any old machines at your workplace. Too old to be running

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread David Leimbach
in Go if i can prove to myself, and then to others, that it's a good idea :-) Dave slds. gabi - Original Message From: Steve Simon st...@quintile.net To: 9fans@9fans.net Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 9:04:56 AM Subject: Re: [9fans] more little hardware Honestly, I think

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-18 Thread Jorden Mauro
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 9:04:56 AM Subject: Re: [9fans] more little hardware Honestly, I think it would loads of fun to do, but I probably wouldn't use it myself once done, I don't have the free time to do it, and I don't know of a way to do it for work... The story of my (plan9) life

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. i think that's a little unfair. they did produce something but underestimated the time and treasure required to make a prototype even moderately usable. had it been only the lack of software, they could have fixed it, but they were stuck too

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread h...@mimosa.com
On Mar 16, 7:40 pm, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. No, it was not vapour. You can buy it here,

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread maht
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. One of these days I'll have something like this on my desk http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9311

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Stuart Morrow
On 3/16/10, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. I'm been using the same phone since 2003 - the only phone I've ever owned - so I obviously don't care (or know) much about smart

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Stuart Morrow
On 3/17/10, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: as to hardware/software: i'm often struck at how badly hardware designers still misunderstand how the software will want to see things, and not just on things like the openmoko. I'm often struck at how badly software designers still

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Hmm.. There's the OK-labs android stuff which virtualizes android on top of L4. If only p9 was running on top of L4 :) Get cracking Tim! how hard

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:35 AM, h...@mimosa.com h...@mimosa.com wrote: On Mar 16, 7:40 pm, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Jack Johnson
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day on battery might actually be worth it, and the feature is so damn trivial

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Axel Belinfante
On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Axel Belinfante
On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Axel Belinfante axel.belinfa...@cs.utwente.nl wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote:

[9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread maht
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht. You just cost me $125 :) I just couldn't resist. Of course, it remains to be seen whether this will be another project that gets pushed onto the stack or we will see something come of it. What

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:54 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. Of course, it remains to be seen whether this will be another project that

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Johnson
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:54 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. I was wondering how you'd network one of those things:

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Johnson
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:54 AM,  blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. I

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. That would be cool. Unfortunately, the cell phone people seem a lot less friendly about releasing the information necessary to program their chips. At 32 MB of RAM, it's basically

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Johnson
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: Off-topic-ish, that 320x240 screen is probably the biggest challenge, trying to find some usable UI in that space. I think the idea of a native Inferno port is great. Sorry, last of the blather. It also seems ideal for

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
I was wondering how you'd network one of those things: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote I thought that was terribly cute. The other option is talking PPP over the USB. You'd be tethered, but you could at least talk. Off-topic-ish, that 320x240 screen is probably the biggest

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jonas Amoson
As I get it, it does not feauture a USB host controller, but acts like an USB device that you can connect to your PC. Maybe it will work anyhow... I was wondering how you'd network one of those things: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote I thought that was terribly cute. The

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
As I get it, it does not feauture a USB host controller, but acts like an USB device that you can connect to your PC. Maybe it will work anyhow... I was wondering how you'd network one of those things: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote I thought that was terribly cute.

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
What flavor MIPS is it? 64 bit (I doubt it)? Is it a version that the compilers will like? ron

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Tim Newsham
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. 9phone? John Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. 9phone? Just an idea to run Plan 9 on phone hardware, son of bitsy. Looks like there's a lot of very cheap

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
What flavor MIPS is it? 64 bit (I doubt it)? Is it a version that the compilers will like? Good point. I do know it's 32-bit, but so far that's all I know. Honestly, I had noticed it was MIPS and didn't really think any further about it. The good news is that both big-endian and little-endian

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:44 -0500, John Floren wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:54 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht. You just cost me $125 :) I just couldn't resist. Of course, it

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. ron

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 15:38 -0800, ron minnich wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. Figures sickening how many potentially nice,

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread David Arnold
On 16/03/2010, at 5:02 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? Unfortunately, I don't think either the Neo1973 or the FreeRunner are useful as a daily-use phone due to various hardware bugs or limitations. d

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Tim Newsham
9phone? Just an idea to run Plan 9 on phone hardware, son of bitsy. Looks like there's a lot of very cheap Android devices coming from China in the near future, so we may be in luck there. Hmm.. There's the OK-labs android stuff which virtualizes android on top of L4. If only p9 was running

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Hmm..  There's the OK-labs android stuff which virtualizes android on top of L4.  If only p9 was running on top of L4 :) Get cracking Tim! how hard can it be? :-) Actually I still think igep + sparkfun phone module might be