Actually, one of the first things I noticed about Leopard is that it
is noticeably faster than Tiger on the same hardware. YMMV.
On Jan 25, 2008 7:18 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One wonders at what point the law of diminishing returns kicks in when
> > it comes to software...
>
> It didn't
Question: are you running this natively/Boot Camp or on Q/Parallels/
VMware? If natively, how did you get it to work? I got stuck on
ELCR: 0003
and it didn't go far. I have an Intel Core 2 Duo iMac running 10.4.10.
On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One wonders at
One wonders at what point the law of diminishing returns kicks in when
it comes to software...
It didn't kick in: it snuck in a while ago.
I'm writing this on a 2GHz 2 core machine with 2Gb RAM
and a stock OSX 10.4 install.
it _should_ fly like a sparrowhawk: it's more like a dodo.
I wonder ho
On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:08 PM, John Floren wrote:
Actually, Windows, MacOS, UNIX, and VMS have all been failing longer
and harder ;)
John
--
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Windows, UNIX, VMS I can understand. But MacOS? If you mean pre-OS X,
then I understand :-)
I
On 1/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think the point is that people talk a big talk about how great Plan
> > 9 is,
>
> That's 'cos it is.
>
It is pretty great.
> > but then don't do a damn thing with it.
>
> Uh, sorry?
>
> A month or so ago, I sat in a room with a bunch
I think the point is that people talk a big talk about how great Plan
9 is,
That's 'cos it is.
but then don't do a damn thing with it.
Uh, sorry?
A month or so ago, I sat in a room with a bunch of
like- and unlike-minded people and discussed
everything from linguistics to supercomputing on
hi,
if i remember correctly, there are multiple versions of SB16. Some work and
some dont. I have both types. The one that didnt work had another name
called Ensoniq I think (may be that company was bought by Creative).
anyway, my usual suggestion is completely ignore sound cards since they are
s
OK, I tried ess1688 now but it's the same "#A: no response #ff".
thanks,
/ greger
--- Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev:
> In plan9.ini(8) there should be another type - try that instead. If
> that doesn't work, I don't know.
>
In plan9.ini(8) there should be another type - try that instead. If
that doesn't work, I don't know.
On Jan 25, 2008, at 7:01 PM, gas wrote:
I have an old ISA sound card, identified by win98 as "creative sound
blaster 16 plug and play".
So, I added the line
audio0=type=sb16 port=0x220
I have an old ISA sound card, identified by win98 as "creative sound
blaster 16 plug and play".
So, I added the line
audio0=type=sb16 port=0x220 irq=5 dma=1
to plan9.ini and 'bind #A' to termrc, but I got the error
#A: no response #ff
With the if-statement surrounding that print com
Hello. I'm porting Bell Labs' Pico image language over to Plan 9 to
use the Plan 9 native image format (image(6)), and I chose to use
Memimage. I'd like to know how to get the 32-bit RGB pixel
information out of a Memimage and into a properly allocated array of
u32ints, and to do the revers
> Greetings,
>
> I have started to use acme and would like to know how to use the
> environment variable $acmeaddr.
> I have the following script:
>
> echo acmeaddr $acmeaddr '$*' $*
>
> If I B1 on the file name only (in a tag) and the B2-1 on the script I get:
>
> acmeaddr $* nibsOam
>
> ie,
> You might as well build
> something *you* find useful.
that's good advice, and too often overlooked. another benefit is that
software quality is much better if the designer/developer is also a
frequent user of it. not very scientific, but it seems like IDE's are
always better than the software
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:29:55 PST "John Floren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 2008 10:09 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > May be the problem is that people are treating plan 9 as a
> > > Van Gogh masterpiece when they should be treating as building
> > > material :-)
> >
> > I sincer
> I think the point is that people talk a big talk about how great Plan
> 9 is, but then don't do a damn thing with it.
> At least, that's how I read it.
Is that what you believe? And if so, who else believes this?
There are things Plan 9 does exceedingly well, better than any other
OSes in the
> We could store the raw data in binary files and have C programs
> access the data with a standard interface.
You want the primary abstraction (layer 0, let's say) to be very
similar to the existing "pure text". Any mark-up becomes a pointer to
an object in a different layer which conveys addi
>> May be the problem is that people are treating plan 9 as a
>> Van Gogh masterpiece when they should be treating as building
>> material :-)
>
> interestingly, that's the Coraid approach.
Well, embedded is not what is being advocated here, so I think yours
is the answer to a different question.
I will do so as soon as I can find out why I get ACPI errors from the
Linux kernel. Anyways, I am using Plan 9 now for building programs
that solve some problems in the wiki's TODO page. I added simple
table borders to htmlfmt and am going on to solve this problem:
GUI image manipulation p
On Jan 25, 2008 10:09 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > May be the problem is that people are treating plan 9 as a
> > Van Gogh masterpiece when they should be treating as building
> > material :-)
>
> I sincerely hope for your sake that you don't treat your next Van Gogh
> masterpiece as buildin
> May be the problem is that people are treating plan 9 as a
> Van Gogh masterpiece when they should be treating as building
> material :-)
I sincerely hope for your sake that you don't treat your next Van Gogh
masterpiece as building rubble. Or treat Plan 9 as some sort of Linux
surrogate. Why
> why use Plan 9 at all if every mainstream operating system is 'workable'?
> i guess workable is not the point.
I don't get it, why does Plan 9 have to behave like Linux or Windows?
There are tractors, tracks and lamborghinis and no one expects the
first to travel at the speed of sound, the secon
>
> May be the problem is that people are treating plan 9 as a
> Van Gogh masterpiece when they should be treating as building
> material :-)
interestingly, that's the Coraid approach.
- erik
On Jan 25, 2008 9:49 AM, Bakul Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Another possibilty is to use it in a h/w gadget that everyone
> would want (for example building something like the Lego NXT
> computer controlled brick so that you can build simple
> robotic apps in rc).
[snip]
Check out St
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 09:49 -0800, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:26:56 EST Brantley Coile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Plan 9 is not, and should not in my opinion, be a Linux
> > replacment, Unix replacement, MS Windows replacement, and
> > so on. If you really want Plan 9 to domin
> I'm not saying using whatever browser under linuxemu is a problem.
> I think the problem is not having a good native browser for Plan 9.
Which is due to the complexity of the task it needs to perform with a
high degree of accuracy. Given (a) that there aren't enough Plan 9
developers to constru
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:26:56 EST Brantley Coile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Plan 9 is not, and should not in my opinion, be a Linux
> replacment, Unix replacement, MS Windows replacement, and
> so on. If you really want Plan 9 to dominate the world
> and see all your friends use it every day, in
On Jan 25, 4:32 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brantley Coile) wrote:
> > On Jan 25, 2008 7:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> it really does not make any sense to write web browser from the ground
> >> up, if there is a workable version.
>
> > here we go again...
> > why use Plan 9 at all if every m
Just a side note. I used Native Oberon for about a year
exclusively, and I never missed not having directories.
You wind up naming files like a path name and have a
Guide file with various Directory commands that allow
you to easily look at subsets of the files. It's not as
bad as you would thin
On Jan 25, 2008 12:35 PM, Charles Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> it really does not make any sense to write web browser from the ground
> >> up, if there is a workable version.
>
> i assumed he wanted to develop and run things mainly in the plan 9 environment
> but would like the added di
> erik quanstrom wrote:
> > is there any reason that /$objtype/include/u.h does not
> > define va_copy? are there objections to this c99 macro?
>
> Probably it was left out due to not being in the C90 spec.
> There shouldn't be any problem with it, but is it needed?
no. neither is va_end or the
> On Jan 25, 2008 7:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> it really does not make any sense to write web browser from the ground
>> up, if there is a workable version.
>
> here we go again...
> why use Plan 9 at all if every mainstream operating system is 'workable'?
> i guess workable is not the
>> it really does not make any sense to write web browser from the ground
>> up, if there is a workable version.
>here we go again...
>why use Plan 9 at all if every mainstream operating system is 'workable'?
>i guess workable is not the point.
i assumed he wanted to develop and run things mainl
On Jan 25, 2008 7:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it really does not make any sense to write web browser from the ground
> up, if there is a workable version.
here we go again...
why use Plan 9 at all if every mainstream operating system is 'workable'?
i guess workable is not the point.
iru
We could store the raw data in binary files and have C programs
access the data with a standard interface.
/* in libc */
enum { Achar, Aimage };
typedef struct Atom {
int type;
union {
char c;
Hi,
if anyone is looking into layout models, I can highly recommmend
Optimal GUI Layout as a Problem of Linear Programming
by Christof Lutteroth et al.
https://www.se.auckland.ac.nz/research/trReports/details/?tid=UoA-SE-2007-6
for a more formal take on the whole mess that is layouting.
If I we
* Douglas A. Gwyn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Note that you still need the #ifdef PLAN9 ... #endif,
> since that isn't standard C.
Or you compile it with plan9port. Or you steal the ``#define USED...'' from
p9p and put it into a compatibility header. Or...
> Treating image as character (with unusual width and height) means
> indefinite number of potential characters and if a machine (not human)
> does not able to differentiate between "text characters" and "image
> characters" it renders character sets unusable.
Sure, but the idea is that the actua
> I'm working on all of these, as well as changing it so that each
> column is the length of its largest item rather than the whole
> table's largest item.
You also need to know the overall width of the space in which the
table is presented so you can scale each _column_ accordingly. It's a
> a) Where is `write' actually defined? (Or does `write' simply call
> `_write'?)
/sys/src/libc/9sys/write.c
it calls pwrite.
>b) Why do some syscalls have `_' prefixes while others do not?
_write is there to allow executables to work that pre-date the introduction of
pwrite
(it's a similar t
Hola,
It works if you remove it completely. At least here.
slds.
gabi
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> the nice thing about scsi emulation mode... is it doesn't get nearly
>> as far as any of the other options:
>Here is my vmx configuration for CDROM
>
>==
>
>scsi1:0.present = "TRU
Hola,
could it be that some of those syscalls are the non-portable version optimized
for a specific platform?
slds.
gabi
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Sorry if this is explained somewhere already. I couldn't find an
>answer, so here we go.
>
>Considering the `print' function of libc
On Jan 24, 8:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pietro Gagliardi) wrote:
> And then we can have raw images as filenames, raw images in plain
> text, text as the stroke style for a line, etc. I'd like raw images
> in text - it makes mpictures and converting to PostScript unnecessary.
>
> According to the wik
Russ Cox wrote:
> If you have a function that takes an argument you
> don't need to use, then simply delete the name of
> the argument. Instead of
> void nop(int s) { }
> you write
> void nop(int) { }
> Or you insert USED(s).
> Or you disable all warnings with -w.
Note that you st
On Jan 24, 9:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i realize there are holes around the edges. i don't see how to
> > edit or select a layout, just the text within layouts. maybe
> > select skips non-text bits.
>
> > what's so wrong about this idea?
>
> Nothing, you need to think out of the box. C
On Jan 24, 9:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pietro Gagliardi) wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2008, at 2:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
>
>
> > dr. wirth can not be accused of software bloat nor of poor
> > programming.
> > is work is excellent. the oberon system is so spartian there are
> > no directories.
> > th
erik quanstrom wrote:
> is there any reason that /$objtype/include/u.h does not
> define va_copy? are there objections to this c99 macro?
Probably it was left out due to not being in the C90 spec.
There shouldn't be any problem with it, but is it needed?
On Jan 24, 7:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Maybe we ought to
> dedicate wiki space to things no one is willing to tackle.
Great idea "that leave GUI tainted idolaters agape with fear and
wonder".
> Then again, Linux's first IP networking was a port of KA9Q. It
> sufficed to give impetus to
Greetings,
I have started to use acme and would like to know how to use the
environment variable $acmeaddr.
I have the following script:
echo acmeaddr $acmeaddr '$*' $*
If I B1 on the file name only (in a tag) and the B2-1 on the script I get:
acmeaddr $* nibsOam
ie, $acmeaddr is empty. Is thi
> the nice thing about scsi emulation mode... is it doesn't get nearly
> as far as any of the other options:
Here is my vmx configuration for CDROM
==
scsi1:0.present = "TRUE"
scsi1:0.fileName = "z:\plan9.iso"
scsi1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-image"
scsi1:0.mode = "persistent"
scsi1:0.star
Hi,
Sorry if this is explained somewhere already. I couldn't find an
answer, so here we go.
Considering the `print' function of libc, we see that it calls
`vfprint', which in turn calls `fmtFdFlush', which finally calls
`write' with 3 parameters.
write(2) says that the source is to be f
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