Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-09 Thread Paulo Eleuterio Tiburcio
Jack Campin escreveu: > > > 5. Line terminators [...] > BBEdit Lite does the same (and the full version of BBEdit also manages > site uploading for you). But the problem isn't with text processors, > it's with brainless transfer agents that don't convert terminators in > text files properly. I

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-08 Thread John Walsh
Jack Campin writes: >But the problem isn't with text processors,it's with brainless >transfer agents that don't convert terminators in >text files properly. > I have a bunch of files that I've transferred between Unix and Dos, and edited on both, so they have some line endings from each. (And

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-08 Thread Jack Campin
> 3. Separated or intermingled voice lines. > This is a rather messy problem we ought to discuss at length here at > abcusers. It's not an issue specially related to Susato, though. Well it is, sort of. The point of my reformatting of your source was that for music in Susato's idiom - metrical d

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-08 Thread Phil Taylor
Frank Nordberg wrote: >5. Line terminators > >RJP wrote: >> This file has terminated lines... > >I'm afraid that problem is a bit beyond me. As far as I know, SaintEdit >is the only Macintosh text processor that allows you to specify line >terminators, and I don't fancy opening each and every Mu

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-08 Thread Simon Wascher
Hallo, Frank Nordberg wrote: > Oh well, here's my summary: (...) > 4. P: field (...) > I don't think many ABC applications supports things like > P: Reprise Barfly and abc2ps do accept the P:field in the body as a simple text string above the bar if there is no P:field in the header (BarFly open

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-08 Thread Frank Nordberg
Seems the typo devil worked overtime on my previous posting. Don't know what came over me. Sorry for mis-spelling your name, John. And sorry for all the other weird typos too. One of them really needs a clarification. The barring example should be: > > M:C| > L:1/4 > c-|c/B/c/d/ ec|cc/d/ e/c/d/

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-08 Thread Frank Nordberg
Thanks to everybody who responded to my Susato posting - and especially to Phil who sent me a really usfeul error reprort privately. I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate much myself in the discussion(s) I triggered, but it seems you've managed quite nicely without me, so I guess it didn't

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-05 Thread John Chambers
James Allwright writes: | abc2midi should handle all the variants of the end-of-line marker correctly. | However, sometimes a chain of automatic conversions will produce 2 end-of-line | markers for each line. Could it be that this is what happened in this | case ? That's good to hear.

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-05 Thread James Allwright
abc2midi should handle all the variants of the end-of-line marker correctly. However, sometimes a chain of automatic conversions will produce 2 end-of-line markers for each line. Could it be that this is what happened in this case ? James Allwright On Tue 04 Sep 2001 at 08:40PM +, John Cha

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Jack Campin
[voice alignment in ABC source] > how are you doing with beamed music ? Most the traditional music > I am dealing with is made up from 1/8 and 1/16 notes. The beams > contain a lot of the rhythmical information. It is an absolute bugger that there isn't a portable something-other- than-code-32 sp

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread John Chambers
RJP writes: | On 03,Sep/01 8:30 pm, you wrote: | > Just like to tell everybody at abcusers that I've just posted a complete | > ABC edition of Tielman Susato's "Danserye" at | > http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/tunes/susato-tielman/susato-1551.abc | | This file has terminated lines I have

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread rjp
On 03,Sep/01 8:30 pm, you wrote: > Just like to tell everybody at abcusers that I've just posted a complete > ABC edition of Tielman Susato's "Danserye" at > http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/tunes/susato-tielman/susato-1551.abc This file has terminated lines I have fixed it using the KDE binary ed

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Simon Wascher
Jack Campin wrote: > >Simon Wascher wrote: > > I would find it much better to write the music voice after voice. It > > is not really possible to read the four voices in parallel in the abc > > text anyway > > Not unless the source is laid out helpfully, but for this sort of > music it can be q

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread John Chambers
Laura writes: | > "John" == John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | John> Making "^#"A work is trivial with abc2ps. You find the code that | John> parses such quoted chord symbols, and have it ignore an initial | John> circumflex. This is one line of C. I'v

Re: P:field [Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes]

2001-09-04 Thread Simon Wascher
John Chambers wrote: > > Hello, > Simon Wascher schrieb: (...) > | $ Example: P:[Einleitung][1.][1.][2.][2.][1.][Ausgang] John Chambers wrote: > Less messy would be to just use either of: > $ Example: P:Einleitung,1,1,2,2,1,Ausgang > $ Example: P:Einleitung 1 1 2 2 1 Ausgang > > T

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Making "^#"A work is trivial with abc2ps. You find the code that John> parses such quoted chord symbols, and have it ignore an initial John> circumflex. This is one line of C. I've done this in my abc2ps clone.

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread John Chambers
Laura Conrad asks: | > "Phil" == Phil Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | >> I usually use "#"A or "b"A to show editorial accidentals. | | Phil> Yes. Perhaps "^#" would be better. | | Are there any abc2ps variants that have implemented this feature? Well, abc2ps has acce

Re: P:field [Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes]

2001-09-04 Thread John Chambers
Simon Wascher schrieb: | Why do'nt you use the P:field within the tune body for the "Reprise" | text? ... | To my personal understanding I always wonder why someone created a field | that organizes the playing order and does not allow the usual part and | playing order terms to be used w

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Jack Campin
> I would find it much better to write the music voice after voice. It > is not really possible to read the four voices in parallel in the abc > text anyway Not unless the source is laid out helpfully, but for this sort of music it can be quite easily. I haven't changed a note in Frank's transc

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Frank Nordberg
Simon Wascher wrote: > > Frank Nordberg wrote: > > > > Just like to tell everybody at abcusers that I've just posted a complete > > ABC edition of Tielman Susato's "Danserye" > > Hey great, thats really nice. Thanks :-) > > > My transcriptions raises a few interesting questions regarding >

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Phil" == Phil Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I usually use "#"A or "b"A to show editorial accidentals. Phil> Yes. Perhaps "^#" would be better. Are there any abc2ps variants that have implemented this feature? >> I still find that programmers should enable voice afte

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Simon" == Simon Wascher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I would find it much better to write the music voice after Simon> voice. It is not really possible to read the four voices Simon> in paralell in the abc text anyway and it is complicate to Simon> extract parts for

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Simon Wascher
Hello, Phil Taylor wrote: > Simon Wascher wrote: > >I would find it much better to write the > >music voice after voice. (...) > I disagree. Writing the abc line by line preserves the original > music layout in the abc, Not necessarily, especially not if the original layout is no score but sing

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Phil Taylor
Simon Wascher wrote: >Frank Nordberg wrote: >> >> Just like to tell everybody at abcusers that I've just posted a complete >> ABC edition of Tielman Susato's "Danserye" > >Hey great, thats really nice. It is indeed - thank you Frank. >> My transcriptions raises a few interesting questions regard

P:field [Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes]

2001-09-04 Thread Simon Wascher
Hello again, Frank Nordberg wrote: > http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/tunes/susato-tielman/susato-1551.abc > My transcriptions raises a few interesting questions regarding > ABC-versions of early music. Should we add barlines? How do we disern > between original and editorial accidentals? etc. etc.

Re: [abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-04 Thread Simon Wascher
Frank Nordberg wrote: > > Just like to tell everybody at abcusers that I've just posted a complete > ABC edition of Tielman Susato's "Danserye" Hey great, thats really nice. > My transcriptions raises a few interesting questions regarding > ABC-versions of early music. Should we add barlines?

[abcusers] Susato's Danseryes

2001-09-03 Thread Frank Nordberg
Just like to tell everybody at abcusers that I've just posted a complete ABC edition of Tielman Susato's "Danserye" at http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/tunes/susato-tielman/susato-1551.abc As usual this is a temporary, abcusers only URL - valid until I've had time to add the music to the main body of