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;>> >> >> >>>> >> I hope you are doing great >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> I haven't discussed any solution in my previous mails because >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> I am writi

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t;> think > >>>> >> it is possible to do cheating in exam > >>>> >> With the help of computers and laptops > >>>> >> And introducing technology in examination hall is not that much > >>>> >> easy > >&g

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nd human interaction in exams and will send my >>> >> opinion >>> >> very soon >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> Ishan jain >>> >> Student of Indian institute of management Indore >>> >> Alumni Of the kirorimal college Unive

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:30 PM 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia < >> >> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Yes, times have changed and so as technology too. >> >>> But how many vi students can afford to have computers and learn >>

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t;>> practical knowledge to do the exercises rather than struggling during > >>> exams. > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> > >>> DR. PAUL MUDDHA > >>> DIVISIONAL MANAGER > >>> Marketing & Public Relations Wing >

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t;> DR. PAUL MUDDHA >> DIVISIONAL MANAGER >> Marketing & Public Relations Wing >> Head Office Annex ground Floor >> 2nd Cross, Gandhi Nagar Bangalore – 560009 >> PH NO :080 22207594 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.i

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ware exists. Pranav -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of techsavi.shan...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 11:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Servic

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techsavi.shan...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 11:00 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? Also, the time limits must extended for the scr

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: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? Dear list members I hope you are doing great I haven't discussed any solution in my previous mails because I am writing a pro

RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

- From: techsavi.shan...@gmail.com Sent: 23 August 2022 22:49 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? Don’t know about the past generations, but, if you ask me

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;s on accessibility. -Original Message- From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia Sent: 23 August 2022 14:30 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

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d Floor > 2nd Cross, Gandhi Nagar Bangalore – 560009 > PH NO :080 22207594 > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On > Behalf Of anirudh rao > Sent: 23 August 2022 13:22 > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to O

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Hi Anirudh To summarize what I wrote in my last post: 1 The exam process should be disabled centric. Meaning option to use scribe, technology etc whatever suits the candidate. 2 Complaining to authorities whenever we come to know about any malpractice. 3 Strict envigilance 4Raising our bar

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Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

hi Ishan, you have well pointed out the flaws in both the systems. but, you have not given any suggestions to improve the same. by infrastructure developement, what type of improvement are you talking about? and what are the infrastructure in this case? and Paul sir, the time has changed. technolog

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Hi I have been staying away from this thread, as I have in past, have expressed my view on this topic. This issue surfaces time and again on  this list. This is my personal take. I believe, the system should be disabled centric. It should support him to bring out his potential fully. We

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5 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any links or open attachments unless you recognize the

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Hello ishan jain, I was in the similar situation in final year of graduation please consider 1st example from your reply. I had appeared for the final year of graduation university exam with scribe Who could not read English properly so it has impacted my career severely. I had scored 1st class in

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

for more discussion please come on my whatsApp On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 8:41 PM ishan sangi wrote: > hellow everyone > > this is my 2nd mail on this topic > > let me share some cases with you all after there are some questions which > I need answers from all of you >

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

hellow everyone this is my 2nd mail on this topic let me share some cases with you all after there are some questions which I need answers from all of you case 1. a student of class x who is blind he prepare for his class x exam and he was sure that he will score well in Exams. on the day of e

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Dear AI members, This is a good discussion. When we were asked to give our voice on NEP on Disabilities, we have given our views on macro level and few points on each type of disabilities. however, I opine the outcome based inclusive education is the need of the hour. when we are thinking about

RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Vaibhav, I would have agreed a few years ago where screen readers did indeed have different keystrokes. However, these days, most screen readers have adopted similar keyboard layouts. Yes, there are differences but those are shrinking. I use nvda, orca, narrator and jaws routinely. For basi

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

UDDHA' via AccessIndia [ > mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in ] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2022 12:37 PM > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > *Subject:* RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is > Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Bu

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rg.in> > On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: 17 August 2022 11:08 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? CAUTION: Thi

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Whatever is the reason may be, Glorifying success accomplished through malpractice by many VI individuals and organisations is going to end soon. I came from poor family. My parents couldn’t afford to feed me 2 times meal. I was enrolled into Marathi medium school. Hard work has no excuse and short

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

in my view, the schools adopting the English as their medium and teaching the science and the mathematics in their curriculum is the way forward. inclusive education should be pushed but, the question is that, are the schools that teach the normals equipped to handle the visually challenged? On 8/

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Hi, Well, computers are the part of the whole system, but specific subjects have their own merrits. First, one can not learn computer without having basic English language skills. Despite the availability of the Hindi softwares, I see no specific push by the government to make it more usable.

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Hi all, It is a wonderful conversation going on. I will still support making the examination software accessible with the screen readers, and enabling visually impaired candidates appear in their exams independently. If this happens, then the people who don’t know how to operate computers will sta

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In my view, The only way forward is strict Supervision through videography. Sent from my iPhone > On 17-Aug-2022, at 11:07 AM, Satguru Rathi wrote: > >  > Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and untill > recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How on

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Hi all, Extremely sorry for such a long mail. Earlier, I was not thinking to give my opinion on this issue but, satguru ji's mail compelled me to talk about it. There are a few things which needs to be addressed. Firstly, why there is no separate ministry for people with disabilities? In other

RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

programme just to show numbers. From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 12:37 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Tu

RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

:080 22207594 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: 17 August 2022 11:08 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? CAUTION: This

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and untill recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one expects from a blind candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and was never even told in school about something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve s

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the fundamental issues remains unansw

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Hi friends, Kethan said rightly. Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail. strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam written format processes well. Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the journey of listen and write the public sector

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Hi Friends, Although the problems mentioned in the article are true to some extent, the blind community is also not without blame. Also, there are some glaring inconsistencies in the news item and I wonder why this coaching institute is not reported to police? I would have been happy if there we

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provide computer solutions to those who do not know how to operate them. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Akash Kakkar Sent: 15 August 2022 12:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Vaibhav Saraf Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Point taken about the familiarity with assistive technology / screen readers. But we do need to start somewhere and offering testing with NVDA is something that can be done. I might be a JAWS user, but if I know that I need to take an exam using NVDA ahead of time, I can practice accordingly. I

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Very true, In fact, when I was trying to pursue IT (Computing) in my 11th standard, then school management directly told me that "you should take any other subject as we don't have enough resources to teach computing and programming". And yes, that was a very huge organization and they had p

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

The solution to that problem is dead simple. Schools, NGOS or other organizations which teach computing to visually challenged people include NVDA in their training/teaching curricular as a mandatory component. And yes, this will improve many things fundamentally since people will have to ge

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including the scribe. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 8:09 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Tu

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

implementation of appropreate technology such as screen readers, speech to text convertors and Braille is the only sollution to stop malpractice in exam. Every child should be taught subjects like Maths and reasoning in special school. There are many special schools where important subjects like Ma

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

Dear All Indian companies getting exam contracts from the government are very rich and are capable of implementing any technology. Accessibility engineers and facilitators training are very small things, they can do it easily. Additionally the government should be forced to start using voice to tex

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

I was having a discussion with Ajay Minocha over a call about the screen reader system. The point he highlighted was that we have multiple screen readers, and their respective settings. It may happen that our preferred screen reader is not there, the settings cannot be changed, or any last minute

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I would go for the computer option any day. It gives us control over what we write. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commissio

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Thanks for sharing, thought of raising this issue long back, just stopped myself not to do because of not having much dareness to face the negative comments. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Minar Singh Sent: 14 August 2022 13:49 To: accessindia@acce