RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Steve Rochford
I like SCSI and IDE not only for their proven track record [server and desktop respectively] but because the dang cables don't get knocked off each time I reach into the case. Those cable connections on the back of the SATA drives are a little worrying. I've accidentally bumped the

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Rob MOIR
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rochford Sent: 08 November 2005 08:49 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions I can understand that with a home machine you're going to be taking

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread ASB
PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org,ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:36:10 - I've deployed SATA for storage of large files in Apple XRaid units in a Raid 5+1 config, and so

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Al Mulnick
components at a time.) From: Rob MOIR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org,ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:36:10 - I've deployed SATA for storage of large files

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Brian Desmond
to need to be emptied. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rochford Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Rick Kingslan
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ASB Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:13 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions ~ I don't have a problem with SATA (an upgrade from PATA) if used as designed. It's

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
..well.. a drive in a member server dropped off the raid the other day and I had to open up a box and replace a SCSI drive. And quite frankly those SATA connections 'on' the drive feel flimsy enought to snap off if I'm not careful, or not solid enough that a Calfornia earthquake would jolt

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:13:22 -0500 ~ I don't have a problem with SATA (an upgrade from PATA) if used as designed. It's designed for desktop storage. Not that it can't

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Brian Desmond
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:33 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions I've seen the SAN vendors these days include SATA drives. Al Mulnick wrote

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 6:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Add to that - SATA is not for the desktop only. Check out some of the SAN coming out from most

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Al Lilianstrom
] On Behalf Of ASB Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:13 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions ~ I don't have a problem with SATA (an upgrade from PATA) if used as designed. It's designed for desktop storage. Not that it can't

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Al Mulnick
that it's on a case by case basis. Al From: Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:55:32 -0500 I know our Clariion has shelves with 14x320GB raw storage

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread Medeiros, Jose
: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:16 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Rick Kingslan wrote: Add to that - SATA is not for the desktop only. Check out some of the SAN coming out from most vendors, EMC included. Those drives and connections look a lot like

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread joe
that has to go to disk for DIT often and that disk is a mirror. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:43 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-08 Thread ASB
@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:13:22 -0500 ~ I don't have a problem with SATA (an upgrade from PATA) if used as designed. It's designed for desktop storage. Not that it can't be adjusted to server/enterprise

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread ASB
The defaults will be more than adequate for a domain of the size you are discussing. Personally, I don't tend to build servers today without at least 1GB of RAM, and any modern CPU with 1GB RAM will easily handle the DC needs for the that you're talking about. Here are some other guidelines

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Al Mulnick
Wow. A four-proc machine (933 MHZ?) for 150 users and Exchange? Wow. My personal opinion: When it comes to architecture, you have to decide between scale up or scale out. In AD, scale out is often preferred because it does this well out of the box and because you want a second copy of the

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Rob MOIR
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: 07 November 2005 15:13 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Bottom line, I would guess that two HP 360's (SCSI; I haven't been made

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: 07 November 2005 15:13 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Bottom line, I would guess that two HP 360's (SCSI; I haven't been made comfortable with SATA reliability yet) or 140's with 1GB

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Noah Eiger
several of them (and rack-mounted too). -- nme -Original Message- From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:13 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Stupid blonde alert I

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Al Mulnick
@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:13:19 -0800 Stupid blonde alert I personally have SATA experience in the tower/desktop world but none in the rack units. Are the physical connections any stronger in the rack

Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:13 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Stupid blonde alert I personally have SATA experience in the tower/desktop world but none in the rack units. Are the physical connections any stronger in the rack world? I like SCSI

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Rob MOIR
/2005 17:22 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Ok, Sue, you know that when you leave a dangling diss like that someone is going to ask you to support it ;-) Beyond the connectors coming undone (something I have not experienced with Dell desktop SATA), do

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Rob MOIR
] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:13:19 -0800 Stupid blonde alert I personally have SATA experience in the tower/desktop world but none in the rack units. Are the physical connections

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Al Mulnick
@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:36:10 - I've deployed SATA for storage of large files in Apple XRaid units in a Raid 5+1 config, and so far so good. Ask me in 3 years if I'm still just as happy ;-) but it was the only way to give the user

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Rob MOIR
user. Which is how it should be after all, and it doesn't do the old resume any harm to have this all on there! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Al Mulnick Sent: Mon 07/11/2005 18:53 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Al Mulnick
PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org,ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:07:28 - Nope, DASD to a Apple G5 Xserve for a very small amount of Apple clients (10) with very high storage

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Rob MOIR
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Al Mulnick Sent: Mon 07/11/2005 20:41 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Interesting. If that solution becomes a problem, have a look at http://www.centrify.com and see if you can

RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions

2005-11-07 Thread Edwin
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 3:42 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Interesting. If that solution becomes a problem, have a look at http://www.centrify.com and see if you can change some