Yes I am quite an objectionable person. :o)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Harris
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:08 PM
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At the risk of getting flamed
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 4:55 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Too much professionalism and political correctness can so water down the
content of the message or the crux of the problem
:
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5:09 PM
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Updates
Oh I think it is a rarity that someone
actually talks to the AD people prior to buying and planning implementation
ya you are correct to enable schema admin group you have to modify a registry key .
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We stand the point
short of being fired. J I guess I should
not comment about our deployment since my email directly states where I work.
So
Heck I might pay extra to see that!
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I guess Gil ought to bring along
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Joe,
I had a mind to ignore you - because I'm SERIOUSLY trying to stay in my not
paying attention mode due to some pressing
If schema master is 2K.
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SinghSent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:25 AMTo:
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ya you are correct to enable schema admin group you have to
modify
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates
Deji,
I don't know where to start with most of your email. So I won't.
My hope is simply that someone doesn't follow this chain and is afraid to say
some person or software or company sucks when it does because someone might
interpret it wrong
What about wine? A nice red wine from the Australian outback or something.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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I'll pray for you both, that you each may live in peace.
Jose :=)
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Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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What about wine
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Deji,
I don't know where to start with most of your email. So I won't.
My hope is simply that someone doesn't follow this chain and is afraid
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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005
10:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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You ever find that often times the products are already bought
before your input is requested?
The better
question is when do they ever check with you
: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Schema Updates
Our movement for Cisco
Unity was based strictly on a wholesale move to Cisco VoIP solutions all the way
around. Apparently theres some cost savings there somewhere. I
dunno regarding the comment joe made about not ever being
: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates
Exactly. My beef too. Let me tell you... there support is less than
stellar. I think I'd rather talk miis to some dude in India before engaging
a Cisco support rep again.
:m:dsm:cci:mvp marcusoh.blogspot.com http://marcusoh.blogspot.com
... :)
:m:dsm:cci:mvp marcusoh.blogspot.com
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I think I'd rather talk miis
, October 11, 2005 10:54 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates
No slight on intelligence, technical prowess, or anything of that like,
Deji.
I only meant that I'd rather work through a language barrier discussing
technology with people in India or China than
is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon
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Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 10:53 AM
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No slight on intelligence, technical prowess
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates
I think I'd rather talk miis to some dude in India before engaging a
Cisco
support rep again
Marcus,
I can't resist the urge to turn off my lurking mode and ask you to please
explain the relevance of the statement above to the scope of this
conversation
worried about
Yesterday? -anon
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 2:08 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates
Oh no, please don't let this list become a politically correct patrolled
zone. I will just
y, October 10, 2005 9:52
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Schema Updates
Our movement for Cisco
Unity was based strictly on a wholesale move to Cisco VoIP solutions all the way
around. Apparently theres some cost savings there somewhere. I
dunno regarding the commen
can only assume what that person's life is like...
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It helps to know
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Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 4:55 PM
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Too much professionalism and political correctness can so water down the
content of the message or the crux of the problem that any conversation
simply becomes a waste
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Hmmm. I need to
think about that again. I think I only saw this behavior in the lab where
all the servers were upgraded instead of wipe and replace. In production,
we upgraded
saying something along
the lines of that will never be in any AD I ever manage.
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KooiSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:04 AMTo:
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Not sure why you don't
Title: Schema Updates
And I will never run Windows because 3.11 just wasn't that
great at networking. ;-)
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joeSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:42 AMTo:
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Being
: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:37 PMTo:
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And I will never run Windows because 3.11 just wasn't that
great at networking. ;-)
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joeSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:42 AMTo
PhilosopherProtecting the world from PSTs and Bricked
Backups!
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joeSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:49 PMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema
Updates
Entirely your option. :) Windows 3.11 and Windows NT are
really
to be sure, but IMHO it can't be beat.
YMMV
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joeSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:49 PMTo:
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Updates
Entirely your option. :) Windows 3.11 and Windows NT are
really
ehalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:49 PMTo:
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I think this is definitely a case where Moore's Law hasn't
been applicable. It's funny how little this story has changed since I saw
the first unified messagi
, October 10, 2005
7:57 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema
Updates
The price tag will definitely drop as soon
as Microsoft releases Exchange 12 with UM built in. But, it's not THAT
expensive today, and there are some great business pluses to it. We had
erate.
Diane
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Our movement for Cisco
Unity was based strictly on a wholesale move to Cisco VoIP solutions
to Christ theyd stick to hardware and stop venturing into software
:m:dsm:cci:mvp
marcusoh.blogspot.com
From:
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005
9:03 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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joeSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:03 PMTo:
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Did you work this out Travis?
If not, I would recommend pulling up the sysinternal
registry and file monitors as well as tracing
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005
10:03 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates
Did you work this out Travis?
If not, I would recommend pulling up the
sysinternal registry and file monitors as well as tracing the AD
Title: Schema Updates
Upgraded.
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Upgraded to 2003 or
fresh install?
:m:dsm:cci:mvp
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Upgraded.
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Upgraded to 2003 or fresh install
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Yep, same here. I
think upgraded scenarios have this.
:m:dsm:cci:mvp
marcusoh.blogspot.com
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Did you work this out Travis?
If not, I would recommend pulling up the sysinternal
registry and file monitors as well as tracing the AD calls.
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Knight LLP
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean
WellsSent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:14 PMTo: Send - AD
mailing listSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema
Updates
Which
domain is the schema FSMO in? Any replication issues? Have you verified
the schema FSMO
, August 11, 2005 4:48 PMTo:
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Updates
And the method you are
using, if you using script or LDIF please post the text in your email too so we
can diagnose the problem.
Carlos
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] Schema
Updates
Can you reach the
Schema FSMO via dns lookup?
Carlos
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WellsSent: 11 August 2005
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listSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
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Which domain is the
schema FSMO in? Any
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema
Updates
And the method you are
using, if you using script or LDIF please post the text in your email too so we
can diagnose the problem.
Carlos
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WellsSent:
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Magalhaes
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And the method you are using, if you using script or LDIF please post
the text
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Can you reach the Schema FSMO via dns lookup?
Carlos
Title: Schema Updates
Your
thinking is accurate but there are many other potential preventive factors, a
great deal more detail re: the errors you're experiencing would
help.
--Dean WellsMSEtechnology* Email: dwells@msetechnology.comhttp://msetechnology.com
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Title: Schema Updates
correct
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Hi,
I am having some problems updating the schema for Avaya
Unified
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Your
thinking is accurate but there are many other potential preventive factors, a
great deal more detail re: the err
om
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The application has an installer that is used to update the
schema. When it runs it seems to be trying
, August 11, 2005
3:30 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema
Updates
The application has an
installer that is used to update the schema. When it runs it seems to be trying
to enable the schema for writing and fails. We receive the following error,
The system can not find
mailing list
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Updates
Your thinking is accurate but there are
many other potential preventive factors, a great deal more detail re: the
errors you're experiencing would help.
--
Dean Wells
MSEtechnology
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http://msetechnology.com
Title: Schema Updates
Can you reach the Schema FSMO via dns
lookup?
Carlos
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Sent: 11 August 2005 11:14 PM
To: Send - AD mailing list
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Updates
Which domain
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And the method you are
using, if you using script or LDIF please post the text in your email too so we
can diagnose the problem.
Carlos
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://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d1de764c-8e26-455f-bee5-34fb1ca9f2c4DisplayLang=en
neglects to mention it. :(
Lee
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Network Support, Computer Centre
University of Leicester
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:46:35 -0500
From: Tony Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir
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From: Tony Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] schema updates
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I completely agree with you Joe. I've been hassling vendors left, right and centre
to provide LDIF file
for schema extensions. Unfortunately, noone appears to listen. The most recent
2004 09:46:35 -0500
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I completely agree with you Joe. I've been hassling vendors left,
right and centre to provide LDIF file for schema extensions.
Unfortunately, noone appears to listen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 7:10 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] schema updates (SMS 2003)
Thanks Lee
Do you know if this is new? I seem to remember hunting high and low
:24 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] schema updates (SMS 2003)
Thanks Rod. I assume you mean 1/23/2004?
It's great to have the update. The only complaint I have is that you need
to actually install the toolkit to get it. Typically, the schema updates
are tested by the AD team
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From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] schema updates (SMS 2003)
Doh! Yeah...2004. The SMS Admin could install the toolkit (who will want
to use it anyway) and then pass along
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] schema updates
Joe makes a good point about PAS here. Changes to the partial attribute set are what generally force the reset status on GCs not the schema change itself. If you custom extensions have not been configured for inclusion in the GC, there should
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] schema updates
To me it depends if you're stacking like or unlike schema updates. For instance, with Exchange 2000 there are 2 sets of updates - the ADC and the Exchange proper ones. I'd stack those any day.
Now - if you're talking custom schema stuff, or extensions
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] schema updates
I will debate this one... :op
First no one should put in anything they don't completely
trust. I allowed that to happen once and now I have a bunch of
attributes/objects out there that have nothing to do with anything and almost
certainly won't be used
_
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To me it depends if you're stacking like or unlike schema updates. For
instance
] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
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I completely agree with you Joe. I've been hassling vendors left, right and
centre to provide LDIF files for schema extensions. Unfortunately, noone
appears to listen. The most
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I completely agree with you Joe. I've been hassling vendors left, right
and centre to provide LDIF files for schema extensions. Unfortunately,
noone appears to listen. The most recent extensions I've tested have
been from MS (SMS 2003) and HP (Managed
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I completely agree with you Joe. I've been hassling vendors left, right and
centre to provide LDIF files for schema extensions. Unfortunately, noone
appears to listen. The most recent extensions I've tested have been from MS
(SMS
: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:07 AM
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Darn Vendors!!! Of course we could always crutch this by creating a Schema
diff file, snap the schema, update the schema, diff it, generate the ldif
ourselves. Not recommending that to anyone
of changes in
LDIF format. How exactly does this get achieved? Thanks!
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Joe - care
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Of course we could always crutch this by creating a Schema diff file
I did this with the RightFax schema extensions.[1] Seemed to work ok, but I
was never 100% sure I'd got it right. You don't want to end up testing
things that might not actually
, then dump it again
and windiff to see what got changed. Then duplicated it in a script.
joe
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of marcus
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:54 PM
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Test them all together. It should be fine. Then slam them into production
all together. You don't want to force multiple syncs because of PAS changes.
joe
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Sent:
What sort of forest set-up do you have? If you have a single domain then
there is no GC full sync following a schema update, and if you have 1 domain
+ empty forest root structure the effect of a GC full sync is generally
minimal (depending on your configuration).
Tony
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