Re: [AFMUG] Dc system questions

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Is there any other component that changes with capacity change? On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 10:47 PM Jason Wilson wrote: > My rule of thumb is 10% of your AH. 400ah of batteries would be a 40a > charger. Float the charge voltage as per battery specs. > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 8:27 PM Steve Jones >

Re: [AFMUG] Dc system questions

2020-03-02 Thread Jason Wilson
My rule of thumb is 10% of your AH. 400ah of batteries would be a 40a charger. Float the charge voltage as per battery specs. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 8:27 PM Steve Jones wrote: > First question, if i have say 4 12v batteries and want to double runtime > by adding 4 more, will that require a big

[AFMUG] Dc system questions

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
First question, if i have say 4 12v batteries and want to double runtime by adding 4 more, will that require a bigger charger? Or can i just keep adding batteries and it just takes longer to reach a full charge? If for whatever reason, one of the batteries has less of a charge, once the rest reach

Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
Congratulations On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 6:04 PM wrote: > God bless you Jaime. I wish I was there to drink a skunky Corna with you. > > But today I get another grandson. > > While not enthused about the abogado grandson, it is in the win column I > think. I think ... > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
I like this. I hope they allow it unlike the facility in california theyre protesting the use of On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 9:35 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Interesting blog of what they’re doing in the Seattle area. I found it > interesting they’re buying a motel for quarantine patients. > > > > https://

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Interesting blog of what they’re doing in the Seattle area. I found it interesting they’re buying a motel for quarantine patients. https://www.kuow.org/stories/live-blog-coronavirus-updates-in-seattle-area From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:03 PM To: Anima

Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Can we still get those? I hate them though. Im a gentleman so i wont say what i think they taste like. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 9:02 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Better an abogado than an avocado. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 7:32 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Is an rfp for 500 million masks over 18 months apparently. This is to insure production numbers stay up. Would seem since this is for global response that maybe it would be better served this bill be footed by a global partnership like the UN. The UN wont pay retail, we will pay 10 bucks a mask whe

Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Better an abogado than an avocado. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 7:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're >From El Paso Even when I have no ideal what you are saying, I still f

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'm just shocked they don't have a strategic stockpile of at least a few million.Buy some with a long shelf life, and rotate them out into the VA system every year, or do something similar. Heck, if you just ensured the VA system had what they needed times the shelf life minus a few months, th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Not a chance. I run this place like a gulag. No canadians here, theyre just frenchmen who havent surrendered enough times. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 6:48 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Somehow I thought Steve would end up like Mike Baxter on Last Man > Standing, with a house full of women, all liberals, and

Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
Even when I have no ideal what you are saying, I still find it amusing. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're >From El Paso Abagodo sounds like something an italian wou

Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Abagodo sounds like something an italian would call a kid with a melon shaped head On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 7:06 PM Bill Prince wrote: > You know all you have to do is drink bleach. Then you can't get COVID-19. > > > bp > > > > On 3/2/2020 5:03 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > God bless you Jaime. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
You know all you have to do is drink bleach. Then you can't get COVID-19. bp On 3/2/2020 5:03 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: God bless you Jaime. I wish I was there to drink a skunky Corna with you. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
God bless you Jaime. I wish I was there to drink a skunky Corna with you. But today I get another grandson. While not enthused about the abogado grandson, it is in the win column I think. I think ... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Somehow I thought Steve would end up like Mike Baxter on Last Man Standing, with a house full of women, all liberals, and a Canadian son-in-law. Karma. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cor

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
Luggage. Pricelass. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 5:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu Wife said shes done after this one. Im fine with that, shes aged and ready for pasture. I figure i find a "nanny" to grow the line, help the old

[AFMUG] OT:::5 Reasons You Won't Get Coronavirus If You're From El Paso

2020-03-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
https://kisselpaso.com/5-reasons-you-wont-get-coronavirus-if-youre-from-el-paso/ Plus Tecate shields me from viruses, fungus and other nasties -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Wife said shes done after this one. Im fine with that, shes aged and ready for pasture. I figure i find a "nanny" to grow the line, help the old lady around the house with chores. Im not all that picky on what suitcase carries my seed, its all luggage to me On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 6:08 PM wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
You are half way there dude! From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu Number 4. Clarence after my great uncle, dirty old bastard. He was the guy youd go to for zero day dirty jokes. Hard working and corrupt as

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Number 4. Clarence after my great uncle, dirty old bastard. He was the guy youd go to for zero day dirty jokes. Hard working and corrupt as they come without being evil On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 5:23 PM wrote: > One of my daughters gave birth to my 6th grandchild today. > Let’s hope that Cheyenne WY

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
One of my daughters gave birth to my 6th grandchild today. Let’s hope that Cheyenne WY is free from the virus for a while. 18 days for you Steve. Fingers crossed. How many will this make for you? My wife gave birth to 8. She swears they are all mine. On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 11:16 PM Stev

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder what happened to 230 bed Westlake hospital in Melrose Park just west of Chicago. I'm assuming it closed and all the staff were let go? But that was only like 6 months ago. It may not have been profitable enough, but it wasn't cardboard, the switches weren't painted on, seems like it

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu State of emergency issued for the state of FL.  Not 100% sure how that is going to help, but hey why not? -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Monday, March 2, 2020, 4:10:47 P

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
Well cardboard tanks do pretty well when recon satellite images are involved. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:06 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu There was an interesting article about the attempt at the FEMA camp in Annis

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
There was an interesting article about the attempt at the FEMA camp in Anniston, and it pointed out that the Hospital emergency center was composed of Cardboard devices and painted on switches. Apparently good enough for combat practice not quite up to snuff for patients... On 03/02/2020 0

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
This happened in Anniston Alabama Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu Date: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 10:09 AM The problem is the existing plague plans are being shut down by localities refusing to

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
Then last week the Super Tanker hit the rocks, luckily (for now) it's double bottomed. Let's hope it gets pulled off the rocks... On 03/02/2020 02:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Probably better be thinking of invoking Lent a bit. It is much nicer when we all stick to non political comments on

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
Every sawbuck. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 3:45 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool Look at the positive influence Hamilton has had on the economy, and he wasn’t even a President! From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Look at the positive influence Hamilton has had on the economy, and he wasn’t even a President! From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 4:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool Probably better be thinking of invo

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
Probably better be thinking of invoking Lent a bit. It is much nicer when we all stick to non political comments on this list. But as a parting shot, the economy is like a huge freight train or a super tanker. Slow to start, stop or turn. Lots of inertia. Who knows how many administration

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
you dont think the business friendly environment created by the executive has anything to do with the markets? you dont think the regulation heavy, anti business environment of the prior executive had anything to do with the slow growth? On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:11 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > I wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread castarritt .
I think the Executive's words can influence confidence in the economy. I want a successful salesman in that position, not someone with a "those jobs are never coming back" attitude. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:11 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > I will say that we in the USA have a terrible habit of pinni

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Adam Moffett
I will say that we in the USA have a terrible habit of pinning the economy on our politicians.  When things go up each party will take credit, and when they go down each party will blame the other. In reality the economy of the nation is driven mostly by the chaotic stew of everyday decisions

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Steve, you need different media. Or do you mean the plural of “medium” as in someone who connects you to the spirit world? Eenie meenie chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak. Are they friendly spirits? Friendly, just listen! From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Josh Luthman
There are a couple languages that specifically interact with web pages. I've done it for a handful of things over the years - ubnt, powercode, etc Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:08 PM Mathew Howard wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
before the end of march it will clear 30, it will go as high ad 35 or 35 then correct to 29-31. The media nazis will blame every down on the current executive and say the current executive owns the market from here out, just like they did in the last dip. then every upstroke will be the former exec

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
5.09% Hopefully not a dead cat bounce. I think it is going to continue to rise. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 1:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool Theyre going too far now: Market Summary > Dow Jones Industrial Average IN

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Mark Radabaugh
It’s actually really easy since it’s just a URL with the key in it. Create and excel spreadsheet and click on 200links if you have no other programming skills. Mark > On Mar 2, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Well, if that's the case, it should be fairly easy to script. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread James Howard
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm Interesting lines: Also, most people who die from flu-related complications are not tested for flu, or they seek medical care later in their illness when influenza can no longer be detected from respiratory samples. These are some of the reasons th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
If you look at the numbers from China nCOV seems to have a mortality rate of ~~ 3.4%. Based on comments from the CDC, they think the total infections in China is understated by a factor of 2 to 5, which would put the mortality rate more in the neighborhood of .7%

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
You simply have to browse to that special URL and it’s done, but I think you have to go through SM GUI authentication first. But as far as the URL, once you activate the entitlement, the URL will be a clickable link in the Cambium activated entitlements page. I would be more worried about miss

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
AGE DEATH RATE confirmed cases DEATH RATE all cases 80+ years old 21.9% 14.8% 70-79 years old 8.0% 60-69 years old 3.6% 50-59 years old 1.3% 40-49 years old 0.4% 30-39 years old 0.2% 20-29 years old 0.2% 10-19 years old 0.2% 0-9 years old no fatalities On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:04 PM Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread castarritt .
You're getting ripped off bro. Thanks to credit card companies, the one dollar I put into debt yesterday is worth TWO dollars today! On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:14 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Thats why i keep all my money tied up in debt. Market fluctuations dont > impact it. If i owe a dollar today

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Lewis Bergman
The elderly are very vulnerable to flu death, which seems to be the case with Covid-19 if you listen to the CDC. A vast majority of deaths are with people suffering from other respiratory issues. When I was serving on a hospital board the census count had a line for Elderly repritory and it was alw

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Theyre going too far now: Market Summary

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
the morbic curiousity in me would like those dead folks dug up and tested for kungflu just to see. But they normally are tested if they die On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Harold Bledsoe wrote: > I'm currently in the overreaction camp. I found this article quite > illuminating about flu in Conne

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Harold Bledsoe
I'm currently in the overreaction camp. I found this article quite illuminating about flu in Connecticut: https://www.ctpost.com/local/article/State-Nine-new-flu-deaths-total-at-58-for-season-15089946.php "10,286 people have tested positive for the flu this season" (in CT) "2,230 people in Conne

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, if that's the case, it should be fairly easy to script. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:17 PM Roland Houin wrote: > It’s not done through the gui > > It’s a simple url which includes the ip address of the sm > > > > Roland > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, March 2,

[AFMUG] SIAE Open House @ WISPAmerica

2020-03-02 Thread Joseph.Schraml
Headed to the WISPAmerica show in Dallas the week of March 16th? SIAE Microelettronica recently expanded into our new, larger facility in Irving, TX and is hosting an Open House on Monday, March 16th from 3pm – 7pm. You’re cordially invited to our Open House to meet our team, socialize with

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
So Siri works for Cambium now? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade here is the response i got: Hi Kurt, Thank you for contacting Cambium Networks. My name is Sri and I will assist yo

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Roland Houin
It’s not done through the gui It’s a simple url which includes the ip address of the sm Roland From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 3:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade Who says it cant? I wonder if

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Who says it cant? I wonder if the key is stored in the config file On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > If it has to be done through the GUI it's going to be pretty tough to > script it... maybe not impossible, but probably more work than doing 200 of > them manually. > > If it

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
If it has to be done through the GUI it's going to be pretty tough to script it... maybe not impossible, but probably more work than doing 200 of them manually. If it could be done through SNMP or SSH, that would be another matter, but it doesn't sound like it can. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:54 PM

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
One of you geeks has got to know a way to script this. Support can most definely get you the keys if you provide the list of macs, without the ip. Then the ubergeeks of afmug could script those into the radios. Cc cambium matt on the support ticket, that guy could hopefully pull some string and ge

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/2/20 11:22 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: here is the response i got: Hi Kurt, Thank you for contacting Cambium Networks. My name is Sri and I will assist you with this case. I understand that you wish to bulk upgrade the licenses of PMP SMs using the cnMaestro. Unfortunately, it is not

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Matt Hoppes
There is a lot of bad information flying around here. An N95 or N100 mask absolutely will protect you from the virus IF WORN CORRECTLY. The majority of America won’t. For it to work properly: It must be 100% air tight. When you exhale you should not feel air moving out the sides. There sh

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Matt Hoppes
I never complained about what China did. I said it’s a bit extreme for the flu, don’t you think? I don’t think this is “just the flu, bro”. > On Mar 2, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Matt, I honestly am unsure where you really stand. It seems like you > complain about a Dracon

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
here is the response i got: Hi Kurt, Thank you for contacting Cambium Networks. My name is Sri and I will assist you with this case. I understand that you wish to bulk upgrade the licenses of PMP SMs using the cnMaestro. Unfortunately, it is not possible to apply the license keys using the cnMa

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
the masks at the door are not n95 On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:13 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > This whole mask thing sometimes gets me. So if I buy a case of N95 > masks from Home Depot, that would affect the purchase of masks for a > hospital? Hospitals are buying the same quality masks as Home D

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
This whole mask thing sometimes gets me. So if I buy a case of N95 masks from Home Depot, that would affect the purchase of masks for a hospital? Hospitals are buying the same quality masks as Home Depot is selling? The suppliers aren't making the same masks for Home Depot and are not pri

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
“Helicopter fly by” must be a euphemism... From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 11:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu when i was a kid, my sisters friends would definitely agree about that. i liked to do helicopter fly bys On Mon, Mar 2, 202

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
when i was a kid, my sisters friends would definitely agree about that. i liked to do helicopter fly bys On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:54 PM wrote: > Yeah, he is our own private Lewis CK. > > *From:* Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 11:13 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
Yeah, he is our own private Lewis CK. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 11:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu Reacting with outrage to something Steve says is why he says it.Don’t take him, or yourself too seriously. Or me either f

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steven Kenney
FEMA has a ton of resources ready for emergencies and they circulate their stock. The medical system does not. Because its made up of a lot of independent hospitals bent on profit. So the CDC or some other federal agency needs to fit the bill and have non perishable stuff in stock. If something

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
On a more scientific note: Forget most of the Newspaper stuff, this is the big boys & girls talking seriously about what to expect. I wouldn't think anyone here has more expertise in any of this stuff that these guys, so if you feel like arguing against this, "talk to the hand" http://cente

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
I like this advice. Don't be an effing idiot. bp On 3/2/2020 9:51 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: We can now add the CDC to the FAA in no progress until the body count is high enough, the difference will be the size of the body count.

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
& that's the Steve I love to read! Thanks, I needed a grin... On 03/02/2020 10:13 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Thats why i keep all my money tied up in debt. Market fluctuations dont impact it. If i owe a dollar today, i owe a dollar tomorrow, no matter what the markets do. I should really become an

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Reacting with outrage to something Steve says is why he says it.Don’t take him, or yourself too seriously. Or me either for that matter. Mark > On Mar 2, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > > It's extremist to accuse me and people like me of wanting a tragic outcome, > ie to want

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Thats why i keep all my money tied up in debt. Market fluctuations dont impact it. If i owe a dollar today, i owe a dollar tomorrow, no matter what the markets do. I should really become an investment advisor On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:54 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > The point of the stock market is to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
You think they should have 3 billion dollars worth of masks on hand at all times? I cant imagine the resources to manage that inventory, let alone cycle it out. One mouse could do a lot of damage On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:39 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > No I mean if they are low on supply - then they

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
I don't consider myself "left" and I'm not "right" and I won't be smug if the admin f's this up. I'll feel threatened and more inclined not to trust the admin to get other stuff right. On 03/02/2020 09:35 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'd imagine "the left" suspects the chief executive will fail to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
Everyone wears them in China ( hence the deaths going down ) to prevent you from touching mouth or nose and goggles for eyes, if in public. If you want to get the R0 (R naught) below two and get ahead of this you _must_ stop people from passing.Part of the reason not to touch is also to k

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
panic->prudence Were you planning on going? On 03/02/2020 09:20 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283)

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Adam Moffett
The point of the stock market is to invest in a company that you think will grow and succeed.  People making money on day to day price fluctuations are really skimming money /out/ of the market IMO. also don't most (non-HFT) day traders lose money? On 3/2/2020 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
We can now add the CDC to the FAA in no progress until the body count is high enough, the difference will be the size of the body count. On 03/02/2020 09:14 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: Surgeon General tells people not to buy masks. Uhh hello? The richest most "ready" country in the world doesn't

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
This country is based upon making the most profit with the least investment. Stockpiling is reserved for subsidies for farmers and other voting blocs On 03/02/2020 09:14 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: Surgeon General tells people not to buy masks. Uhh hello? The richest most "ready" country in t

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
Look at what happened to the market before the great depression, there was a month of up and downs while the market was being propped/played before the floor fell out. Historically the market has always had a major crash withing the first two decades of each century 1800,1900,2000's now? The

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
Um, we brought them back into here with the virus while the CDC was speculating about the parameters of the disease. Now it could have been to examine the disease first hand in a gen-pop but it didn't sound that well done, with unprotected people in contact with the exposed. Now it just sound

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
If you're wanting to bail, it might help to know a country. Can you name a country? Any country? bp On 3/2/2020 9:35 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'd imagine "the left" suspects the chief executive will fail to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Robert Andrews
i.e. when martial law works. This is with _total_ quarantine. Key cards that go to the police department computers for access to buildings. NO ONE on streets without masks gloves and goggles. What chance is there to implement that in our country of rabid independantism.. On 03/02/2020

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
MUM Europe was cancelled, it looks like USA and Mexico are still scheduled for mid-April. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:21 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic. > > -- > Steven Kenney > Network Operations Manager > WaveDirect Telecommunications > http://www

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steven Kenney
No I mean if they are low on supply - then they are unprepared! -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Steve Jones" To: "af" Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:24:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Coron

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
Which is another reason to tell people not to buy masks... if healthy people are buying up all the masks, which are doing them little or not good, and there aren't any left for the people that are infected to wear, that isn't exactly ideal. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:28 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd imagine "the left" suspects the chief executive will fail to organize a proper response.  They would probably feel smug if they're proven right.  I haven't seen such expectations from "the left", but I can certainly imagine what they look like. Meanwhile "the right" nurses zombie apocalyps

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
If someone infect near you is coughing and not covering some way (with a mask or coughing into your sleeve), the droplets can transfer to you through your tear ducts (eyes). I don't think there's enough information to quantify how many virus particles you need to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Thats something I always wondered about, the high incidence of healthcare infections over there. If youre continually being exposed to the virus, does that keep your viral load higher? On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:28 AM Bill Prince wrote: > The advice is that masks don't really protect you. OTOH, t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Bill Prince
The advice is that masks don't really protect you. OTOH, they say if you ARE infected that you should wear a mask. The idea is that masks don't really keep the virus out, but they can help in keeping the virus in. bp On 3/2/2020 9:14 AM, Steven Kenn

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
The surgeon general warning says not to buy them because they dont work. Thats an odd duck announcement. they dont fit a larger percentage of the population, half the people you see in them have a gap by their noses, which means theyre trapping the virus inside the mask. and if youre not going to s

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steven Kenney
Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Steve Jones" To: "af" Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:02:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steven Kenney
Surgeon General tells people not to buy masks. Uhh hello? The richest most "ready" country in the world doesn't have a 6 month supply of masks in storage ready for such an event? What the heck? -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
So much money being made today On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:39 AM Steve Jones wrote: > 26,070.31 +660.95 (2.60%) > Remember, I said 700 today > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:31 AM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> You mean the Trump Slump? lolololololololol too easy >> Jaime Solorza >> Wireless Systems

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
I think this topic has \lent but anybody watching this: Market Summary

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Its obvious they want an outcome they can use against the executive. Theyre not known for looking before they leap. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:56 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" wants a tragic > outcome. > > > On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrot

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread chuck
It does seem like it would please some of them. But we are in the middle of Lent right now, right? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 9:55 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" wants a tragic outcome.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Carl Peterson
It's extremist to accuse me and people like me of wanting a tragic outcome, ie to want people to suffer and die. Please keep your extremist right wing BS off this list. "If the left gets what they want, a tragic outcome to blame on the current executive" <-- This BS has no place on this list. On

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Steve, the extremist part is where you think "the left" wants a tragic outcome. On 3/2/2020 11:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it would actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl. how would you stop people f

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Calm and rational response was to utilize the identified facilities. now the communities are saying they cant be used, not in our town (out of california no less, rotflmao) not very welcoming. These systems have been in play for decades. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:20 AM Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
Its extremist to not buy into the hype, its extremist to know what it would actually take to contain it if the hype were true? Pick a team Carl. how would you stop people from flooding out of a major urban area like chicago? just politely ask them to stay? A quarantine is a nothing in nothing out,

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-02 Thread Steve Jones
26,070.31 +660.95 (2.60%) Remember, I said 700 today On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:31 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > You mean the Trump Slump? lolololololololol too easy > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 3:38 PM wrote: > >> How long before the s

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