Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

I was exposed a few days earlier. Chuck McCown via AF wrote: What caused you to go get tested? -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 2:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political When I was diagnosed with Covid I

Re: [AFMUG] Test phone

Groovy On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 3:14 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > https://youtu.be/iqY35SYsyfQ > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Monday, July 26, 2021 3:06 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test phone > > No entiendo. > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 11:42 AM Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Test phone

https://youtu.be/iqY35SYsyfQ From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test phone No entiendo. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 11:42 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Noun. Test (from) phone I laid it between the lines. So

Re: [AFMUG] Test phone

No entiendo. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 11:42 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Noun. Test (from) phone > > I laid it between the lines. > > So only those that dig rock and roll music would understand. > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Monday, July 26, 2021 11:36 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Us

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

Excellent points Chuck On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 10:42 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Nobody, that is a preventable hazard to all others should have their > liberty. That is why Typhoid Mary was imprisoned on Brothers Island. > > That is why people that are criminally insane and violent are locked

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

Round them up and ship them to Utah. We have some internment camps that just need to be rebuilt. I want the food and water concession. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 2:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political That's fine, you can decide not to ge

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

What caused you to go get tested? -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 2:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political When I was diagnosed with Covid I had zero symptoms and my temperature was under 98 degrees. T

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

When I was diagnosed with Covid I had zero symptoms and my temperature was under 98 degrees. The clinic had me wait in their lobby for two hours before swabbing me. I distanced and wore a mask but there is no telling who I infected while following their procedures. Jan-GAMs wrote: There i

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

100% vaccination in Gibraltar = no more deaths. From: David Coudron Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 1:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political I thought about whether or not to reply because what seemed like a pointing out that i

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

I understand that... but the SASs have told me they will continue to divide the pie up. On 7/26/21 12:10 PM, Brian Webster wrote: This is based on conversations with Richard Barnhart who understand this probably as good as anyone. He did help develop the standards and SAS requirements. Just sa

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

I thought about whether or not to reply because what seemed like a pointing out that it might be OK to respect the decision not to take this vaccine right now turned into a pretty hot topic and that wasn’t the intent. The point wasn’t to advocate for no vaccination, ever, but to point out that

Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber

It depends... reasonable people generally appreciate having some kind of service, but a lot of people seem to get more upset about having a partially working connection than no connection at all. It depends on how badly it's crippled too... you could probably get by with a backup that was only capa

Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber

I used to think that, but anymore, unless they can stream video, the internet is down. Businesses are different, but residential, if they're only partially working, they're 'down' according to the customer. On 7/26/2021 1:07 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Even a low bandwidth cripple route is

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

Until a Trollhunter comes after you….https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707/ From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 12:15 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political Sometimes it is fun to be a troll. Damn paperclips

Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber

Even a low bandwidth cripple route is better than no alternate route. I wonder how easy it would be to set up a traffic shaper that would block all streaming when you were on your alternate low BW backup? Just let email and web traffic flow. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:59

Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber

It kind of does, doesn't it.  There aren't that many choices in rural America, choices have to be existent in order to get chosen.  And they have to be affordable and not in the realm of unaffordobtanium. On 7/26/21 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Kinda sounds like the residential guy with a $44.

Re: [AFMUG] Test phone

Good tunes deserve good lyrics.  If it isn't SRV is it worth listening to? On 7/26/21 10:41 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Noun.  Test (from) phone I laid it between the lines. So only those that dig rock and roll music would understand. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Monday, July 26, 2021 11:36

Re: [AFMUG] Test phone

Noun. Test (from) phone I laid it between the lines. So only those that dig rock and roll music would understand. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test phone Test Phone? As adverb or adjective? On Mon, J

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

In my experience, un-vaxxed people are the least likely to take reasonable precautions. bp On 7/26/2021 9:56 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: An apparently healthy un-vaxxed person, taking reasonable precautions is nothing like that. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/

Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber

Kinda sounds like the residential guy with a $44.95/mo lowest speed plan complaining he's losing millions on his eBay auctions. If the uptime is worth it, you need redundancy. Fiber has problems. Wireless has problems. Electronics and software have problems. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

I read somewhere that they've been training dogs to sniff out COVID infectees. Can't remember who or where. bp On 7/26/2021 9:50 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I like this:  

Re: [AFMUG] Test phone

Test Phone? As adverb or adjective? On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 10:40 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/a

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

I have developed some special glasses that detect the change of polarization of light reflected off of vaccinated people. It will be like the walking dead. Being slightly more serious, here is a quote from SCOTUS: At question, then, was whether the “right to refuse vaccination” was among

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

Um, kinda wonder what the percentage of unvaxxed is that are walking around unmasked..   A shudder to think it's probably near 100%... On 7/26/21 9:56 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: There's a major difference - Typhoid Mary knew that she was a carrier. Somebody dancing through a crowd with a spray bo

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

There is no reasonable excuse for an un-vaxxed person to not suspect that they are a carrier.  We have been informed for more than a year that asymptomatic covid people can be carriers for an indefinite period of time.  There is no reasonable excuse for being un-vaxxed, in public and ignorant. 

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

He has said repeatedly that he is good with that.   It's part of his "personal freedoms"...  And with that, we define the limit that this conversation should go, as he has pushed the envelope to the edge.. On 7/26/21 9:41 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: So, unvacinnated folk that get the virus a

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

Yep, personal freedom does not allow you to drive down a highway a) without a license b) in the wrong direction.   Ya gonna go to jail.   Willingly walking around spreading the virus with symptoms is grounds for jailtime, even coughing or sneezing on food in a grocery store will get you a visit

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

Sometimes it is fun to be a troll. Damn paperclips keep sticking to me... From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 11:10 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political You have a yes vote here On 7/26/21 9:50 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I like this: Contac

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

You have a yes vote here On 7/26/21 9:50 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I like this: Contact trace your covid back to the unvaccinated person that transmitted it.  They get to pay for the healthcare/death. Having a vax is safe harbor. Tort law to the rescue! Now we need some covid liability po

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

There's a major difference - Typhoid Mary knew that she was a carrier. Somebody dancing through a crowd with a spray bottle of anthrax is intentionally trying to kill people. An apparently healthy un-vaxxed person, taking reasonable precautions is nothing like that. Sure, somebody that knows they

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

I like this: Contact trace your covid back to the unvaccinated person that transmitted it. They get to pay for the healthcare/death. Having a vax is safe harbor. Tort law to the rescue! Now we need some covid liability policies. Unvaxed people have to have insurance. Just like if you wann

Re: [AFMUG] test desktop

testing testingdesktop with a stutter On 7/26/21 9:39 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

So, unvacinnated folk that get the virus and walk around for a few days breathing on the general public are OK with you? Some are asymptomatic, others are just not feeling too poorly to stay home yet. But they are a living breathing biological warfare machine. And they can just run free? How

[AFMUG] Fw: OT somewhat political

Nobody, that is a preventable hazard to all others should have their liberty. That is why Typhoid Mary was imprisoned on Brothers Island. That is why people that are criminally insane and violent are locked up in jail. If someone started dancing through a crowd with a spray bottle of anthr

Re: [AFMUG] test desktop

Odd, a bit selective in what it is allowing through this morning... From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 10:39 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] test desktop -- AF mai

Re: [AFMUG] cut fiber

Must be nice having unlimited access to resources On 7/24/21 9:23 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Get a backup connection and use BGP. Not rocket science On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 5:38 PM Jan-GAMs > wrote: 5 minutes before the auction starts for the 4H club, the fiber

[AFMUG] Test phone

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Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

The SAS providers should be able to check and see if there's anything registered in the SAS database at that location (whether it's GAA or PAL, it has to get a grant from the SAS) - if there isn't anything registered with the SAS, then they're operating illegally. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:34 AM

[AFMUG] test desktop

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Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

The issue we are having is the SAS shows everything available and not even the PALs show listed or protected. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131   Office # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

Right, they can do that, if there are channels available, but they don't have too (and in some cases, they really can't), and it actually isn't their job. On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:11 AM Brian Webster wrote: > This is based on conversations with Richard Barnhart who understand this > probably a

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

This is based on conversations with Richard Barnhart who understand this probably as good as anyone. He did help develop the standards and SAS requirements. Just saying that while it's possible for the SAS to do that now, if more users show up than there are channels there is no first in protectio

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar V1 Issues

Ah, you likely have to be in the WISP Talk group to see it. In short, someone with similar symptoms was complaining and lots of, Sonar disappointment conversation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Messa

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar V1 Issues

I can't see that link, but I'll take your word for it. I wonder if they had some logging process runaway. On 7/26/2021 10:24 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: https://m.facebook.com/groups/wisptalk/permalink/1645374449126897/ There is at least one other person with this issue right now. I've heard of d

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar V1 Issues

https://m.facebook.com/groups/wisptalk/permalink/1645374449126897/ There is at least one other person with this issue right now. I've heard of disk-space and other rudimentary sysadmin issues hitting Sonar before. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Ex

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar V1 Issues

Ours seems to be functioning properly today. We had that issue several months ago however, took some time to get it corrected but was fine after that. I don't know if they monitor the V1 instances very closely. Took a few calls to get them serious about looking to see what our problem was

Re: [AFMUG] Sonar V1 Issues

Nope.. I run a locally hosted version of Powercode... I know that doesn't help you, but as Alexa says "it's always raining in the cloud". On 7/26/21 11:18 AM, Nate Burke wrote: We're being told our Sonar Instance is 'out of disk space'  They added disk space to the instance this morning and i

[AFMUG] Sonar V1 Issues

We're being told our Sonar Instance is 'out of disk space' They added disk space to the instance this morning and it started running, but it looks like it's down again now. Can't get to the login page, it just times out.They said that a couple other instances might have been having the sa

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

This is not accurate. Contact your SAS and they will absolutely cut the pie up to avoid interference... that is their job and then will do it. We just moved Verizon around in our area so we could both exist. On 7/26/21 10:11 AM, Brian Webster wrote: Remember that as a GAA user just because

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

What equipment are you using? If 450 make sure you use Frame Type 2 for LTE Coexxistence. Then contact your SAS who will promptly kick T-Mobile off of part of the GAA and allow both of you to coexist nicely. On 7/25/21 6:24 AM, Tyson Burris wrote: Good morning AF Geeks- Someone help me und

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile PALs and CBRS GAA

Remember that as a GAA user just because you are in the SAS you do not have first in rights. The SAS only protects the licensed PAL holders. Anyone who shows up to play in the GAA channels has to fight among themselves the same as you do on any unlicensed channels. I repeat, the first users

Re: [AFMUG] list traffic

I have had trouble cat5e over time where the cable speeds fade especially over longer distance but currently Cat6 does seem to be holding its own. If the radio has a sfp port we use it. On 7/26/21 8:57 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: That's absolutely not true.  All of our gig links are cat5e.  Cat6 m

Re: [AFMUG] list traffic

That's absolutely not true. All of our gig links are cat5e. Cat6 may or may not help, but it absolutely is not a requirement. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 6:25 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > $$$

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

Dennis, At this point, those are want the vaccine have it and feel protected. I believe in its effectiveness and am not afraid to go out. The problem we keep bringing up is half of America is not vaccinated yet. Cases are spiking, ICU beds are filling up, and deaths are increasing. When this hap

Re: [AFMUG] DFS in DC

If one has studied the whole DFS issue, the Washington DC area would be the highest of likelihood of getting hits and taking the radios off those channels. DFS channels are shared with governmental (DOD, Military etc.) users. With locations like Andrews AFB (The home of Air Force One) then you a

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

Or that other person can ware the condom since they are so afraid of it, or maybe they should not be out in public? [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.li