Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread Robert
Oh, and most BMS in LFP batteries report state of charge numbers that are calibrated via full charge/discharge cycles not by absolute voltage measurements. So you get different batteries reporting different states of charge unless they are all top and bottom balanced together... Signature

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread Robert
Some chargers will behave... On 1/4/24 3:34 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Chargers aren't designed to have a linear load (wisp) and will misbehave On Thu, Jan 4, 2024, 3:12 PM Robert wrote: I will look when I get back in the office, but it was similar to this one:

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread Robert
But LFP batteries all have BMS control with built in LVD.   Most LFP batteries BMS will need a "kick-start" if they go into LVD.   The charger I shared earlier has a LVD kick mode for the first charging mode. On 1/4/24 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: The worst case scenario is when the

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread castarritt
The reason I fear not having LVD is that the load becomes the LVD and it might not have any hysteresis. If a 1kw Tarana cluster pulls 0A at 43.9V and then 20A at 44V, we would have a problem. That said, I would use a managed LDM from ICT anyway, so I could easily set load shed voltages to avoid

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread Robert Andrews
Not all lithium is the same... Tesla has careful temperature controls to manage their packs. And are subject to thermal runaway. LFP batteries ( I can't say completely ) are not so subject to thermal runaway. Running them inside a house is much safer than any other Lithium chemistry. I

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Just the joy of handling lighter batts make lithium well worth it. Not to mention all the other positive attributes. From: castarritt Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 9:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant I've also thought about trying just

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread castarritt
I've also thought about trying just some basic Meanwell AC/DC supplies with LFP packs instead of a fancy ICT or other charger. As long as I am using a power supply that will sag voltage instead of trip offline when max current is reached, the max current doesn't exceed the LFP pack's rated charge

Re: [AFMUG] Odd routing issue

2024-01-04 Thread castarritt
I'm not sure what you are asking Steve. I am forming multiple adjacencies with multiple /30 networks on the same interface for ECMP load balancing purposes on a few links. On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 7:19 PM Steve Jones wrote: > are your routing IPs in a bridge with other IP addresses? > > On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread Josh Luthman
FWIW I avoided the "bleeding edge" battery technology and went with the tried and true batteries. They just sit there and work. I only typically need a couple of minutes of run time before the LP generator but I have 24 hours of run time (with all 7 shelves in another few years). On Thu, Jan 4,

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread castarritt
We also use ICT and have been running them with both ISP Supplies and Power Storage Solutions LFP packs without any problems. The only downside is that the ICT shelf can't read the state of charge or give your an estimated runtime remaining with lithium batteries. I understand they won't have a

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New

2024-01-04 Thread Bill Prince
Happy New Year is so 4 days ago. That is one ugly tamale. bp On 1/4/2024 8:12 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jaime Solorza *Date:* January 4, 2024 at 8:24:34 AM MST *To:* Chuck McCown *Subject:* *Happy New*  Hope all is well

[AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New

2024-01-04 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Jaime Solorza > Date: January 4, 2024 at 8:24:34 AM MST > To: Chuck McCown > Subject: Happy New > >  > Hope all is well -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-04 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
I'm starting to get flashbacks for the last time I did this. It wasn't a pleasant experience. Felt I was oversold un-needed over priced options. Trying to be more careful this time. Looking at the LifePO4 stuff and finding a bunch of rack mount batteries, but they all seem to be China