Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
mance on ice might only be 10% better. >> There’s only so much you can do vs. laws of physics. And states outlawing >> studded tires because they tear up the roads. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Wednesday, F

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
>> >>> We tend to talk like it’s all about which equipment vendor is better. >>> Is Ubiquiti better than Aviat? But a lot of it is physics and regulatory. >>> And maybe climate change. It reminds me of winter tires. You can pay >>> twice as much, but th

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Bill Prince
To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex   I don't think so. In moderate rain zones the AF24HD can go 2 miles, and maybe some change. I'm not

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
;>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebo

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
less Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with dishes and everythin

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mike Hammett
ebruary 26, 2020 11:08:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex Is the range equivalent? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex for $5,000 the A

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Darin Steffl
far you can go on 80 GHz, but I'm > pretty sure it isn't that far. > > > bp > > > > On 2/26/2020 9:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Is the range equivalent? > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Mi

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
valent? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the throughput! On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
gt; From: Kurt Fankhauser <> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex >> >> for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Josh Baird
ut I'm > pretty sure it isn't that far. > > > bp > > > > On 2/26/2020 9:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Is the range equivalent? > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *S

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Bill Prince
: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex   for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the throughput!   On Wed, Feb 26, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mike Hammett
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:08:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex Is the range equivalent? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread chuck
Is the range equivalent? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the throughput! On Wed, Feb 26, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mike Hammett
ry 26, 2020 10:59:05 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the throughput! On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: Good to know. That's an incredib

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
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Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
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Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Darin Steffl
ernet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Josh Baird
t-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Darin Steffl" >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Darin Steffl
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Darin Steffl" >> *To:

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Josh Baird
; > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Darin Steffl" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mike Hammett
lFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with dishes and everything. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us &g

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Aviat sells direct via their web store. From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex I don't know anyone that sells Aviat. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Aviat only sells direct On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > I don't know anyone that sells Aviat. > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Steffl > wrote: > >> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with >> dishes and everything. >> >> On Tue, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know anyone that sells Aviat. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with > dishes and everything. > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Good choice Lewis! >> >> We have a dozen of them

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Darin Steffl
The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with dishes and everything. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Good choice Lewis! > > We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really > amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours)

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Sean Heskett
Good choice Lewis! We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they keep on keepin on!! -Sean On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot.

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot. On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it > really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific > requirements. > > If the project isn't

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Mathew Howard
At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific requirements. If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can get, then just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for that band,

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread dave
I guess it depends on the 9s you want. Cheaper is not always better for consistency. On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote: No way I would consider AF24HD for this.  You can get 80ghz links for less that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps). Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Darin Steffl
<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Lewis Be

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Mike Hammett
ary 24, 2020 8:27:59 AM Subject: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their product selector returns no matches . Ubiquiti has the 24HD. Anything else I should be aw

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Josh Baird
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Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Mathew Howard
overage.com > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2020 8:28 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex > > > > What are the current recommendations for something like this. I se

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
y 24, 2020 8:28 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their product selector returns no matches . Ubiquiti has the 24HD.

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Josh Baird
No way I would consider AF24HD for this. You can get 80ghz links for less that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps). Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat. Aviat probably gives you the best bang for your buck. Cambium has a new mmWave product, but I don't know anything about

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Mike Meluskey
SIAE 80HDX is working well for us. Up to 10Gbps full duplex. On 24 Feb 2020, at 10:27, Lewis Bergman wrote: > What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium > has something that looks like it will work but their product selector > returns no matches . > > Ubiquiti

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread dave
Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will take all of your 5g spectrum and there is the ptp850E On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their 

[AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their product selector returns no matches . Ubiquiti has the 24HD. Anything else I should be aware of? -- Lewis Bergman -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com