Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Harold Bledsoe
You need a permit in Georgia in most counties. They want to tax you on the increased value (main reason), and they want to make sure it is installed to code (roof weight, electrical, etc.). The powerco here requires an electrician to do the tie in. Also in general you need a license to do

[AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread timothy steele
are any of you using Tower project managment software the plan upgrades that you care to share google pops this up http://projecttower.com/ seems like there should be better things out there.. Thanks,

Re: [AFMUG] Cox fiber to the router

2015-10-15 Thread Joe Novak
Craig, Are you using consumer connect? If so, is it worth it in your opinion? Joe On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > I wasn't either but the price having a manage ont/router thats way cheaper > than a 711 + 844E won me over. We still

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Rory Conaway
The best batteries for this type of situation are the flow batteries. Cost is still an issue but there is a huge amount of research going into them including a new alkaline flow battery. They don’t degrade over multiple of cycles like a lithium battery. The current vanadium ones are too

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Liquid metal / flow batteries are not really commercially available, unless you want a "trial" plant for utility scale that is a multiple of 2, 4 or more 20 foot sized ISO cargo containers... It's not something you can buy with an AMEX card and have shipped to your business. The best

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Mike Hammett
That's assuming you need an electrician or a permit. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:38:56

Re: [AFMUG] Cox fiber to the router

2015-10-15 Thread Christopher Gray
Craig, What services do you provide when you "manage" a router? Thanks - Chris On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > I wasn't either but the price having a manage ont/router thats way cheaper > than a 711 + 844E won me over. We still install a

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Why aren't you at WISPApalooza??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 15, 2015 8:07 AM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > If you just need some kind of project management/collaboration software, I > think Trello and

[AFMUG] FW: Pink Brest Cancer Awareness - WISPAPALOOZA 2015

2015-10-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
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[AFMUG] RADIUS servers

2015-10-15 Thread Simon Westlake
What's everyone using? FreeRADIUS is the standard for free, but is anyone using anything paid/licensed? I've been looking at some like Steel Belted RADIUS and Cloudessa, but curious if there's anything else popular out there. -- Simon Westlake Skype: Simon_Sonar Email: simon@sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread chuck
The meters here will charge you for power you put back into the grid unless the power company sets/replaces them with meters that measure the direction. Sneaky way to force you to get a grid tie agreement with them. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, October 14,

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Paul McCall
Interesting concept. So, you would just use a smaller # of batteries and expect the solar array to run your household “live” x% of the time, and if doesn’t’ have enough, then it relies on utility power? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, October

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
There is a company out here that is selling a relatively small (SLA-type) battery system for use with grid-tie solar. It has connections between the solar panels/inverter/grid. It "fools" the inverter into believing that the grid is still on by disconnecting the grid, and feeding a "pseudo

Re: [AFMUG] Used monopole opportunity

2015-10-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
That's at least twice as high as I have seen towers like that which says still standing sold for. Unless you own your own crane and are very close it might be cheaper to buy new. By the way, that field needs some goats. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 8:38 AM Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS servers

2015-10-15 Thread Adam Moffett
We have a Radiator server still running somewhere. I'm not sure if it's going to stay that way in the long term. On 10/15/2015 11:20 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: Have used Steel Belted service provider before and FreeRadius many times much prefer FreeRadius assuming you have expertise on

[AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Anyone know if a WISP around Wisconsin that might be able to help this guy? I feel for him, he took all the right steps before he bought/built. Then finds out he's screwed.

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
Batteries are hard. Battery technology moves at about 1/20th the pace of most everything else. Maybe slower. bp On 10/15/2015 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Wonder how hard it is to make a flow battery. ... *From:* Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Josh Baird
Ah, that's 30minutes from us. But, I'm in California for the week. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Lexington > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Oct 15, 2015 8:24

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Mathew Howard
You don't use batteries at all, you just sell excess power you generate back to the grid during the day, and buy what you need from the utility at night. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > Interesting concept. So, you would just use a smaller # of

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Rory Conaway
Here is another one www.vsynconline.com Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software Ah, that's 30minutes from us. But, I'm in California for

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I wonder if something like that could be designed to get around the electrician/permit problem. What I'm thinking of, is a small system that isn't designed to feed anything back into the grid, but instead generate less than what you're using, store it in some smallish batteries and feed it back

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Simon Westlake
Busy coding. I was going back and forth on whether or not to go, but a week away from development is a big delay right now. Sucks though, first one I've missed in years. I'll be in Kentucky though, which is almost like Vegas. On 10/15/2015 10:11 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Why aren't you at

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Paul McCall
Bill, that is kinda what I was thinking. If the price was not several thousand dollars, that might be a good option From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt

Re: [AFMUG] Used monopole opportunity

2015-10-15 Thread Adam Moffett
It's also the first number he threw out on the table. He might have room to move downward. On 10/15/2015 12:05 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: That's at least twice as high as I have seen towers like that which says still standing sold for. Unless you own your own crane and are very close it

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Oh well fine then. Be that way. :P -Ty -Ty On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > This guy was discussed at length in a previous thread. > > > > On 10/15/2015 12:15 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: > >> Anyone know if a WISP around Wisconsin that might be able

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Simon Westlake
If you just need some kind of project management/collaboration software, I think Trello and Basecamp cover the range from simple to fully featured and are both pretty inexpensive. If you need something very specific to towers, I'm not sure, but I'd be willing to bet that Basecamp can be

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread chuck
Wonder how hard it is to make a flow battery. ... From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax Liquid metal / flow batteries are not really commercially available, unless you want a "trial" plant for

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS servers

2015-10-15 Thread Paul Stewart
Have used Steel Belted service provider before and FreeRadius many times much prefer FreeRadius assuming you have expertise on staff, as it's just as scalable and heavily customizable. Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Josh Baird
Kentucky rivals Vegas! Where in Kentucky? On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Busy coding. I was going back and forth on whether or not to go, but a > week away from development is a big delay right now. > > Sucks though, first one I've missed in

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Lexington Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 15, 2015 8:24 AM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > Kentucky rivals Vegas! Where in Kentucky? > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Simon Westlake >

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS servers

2015-10-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
This is one of those things there is absolutely no reason to pay for. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 8:20 AM Paul Stewart wrote: > Have used Steel Belted service provider before and FreeRadius many > times much prefer FreeRadius assuming you have expertise on staff, as > it's

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Adam Moffett
This guy was discussed at length in a previous thread. On 10/15/2015 12:15 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: Anyone know if a WISP around Wisconsin that might be able to help this guy? I feel for him, he took all the right steps before he bought/built. Then finds out he's screwed.

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Steve has some fantastic comments. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 15, 2015 9:17 AM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > Oh well fine then. Be that way. :P > > -Ty > > > > -Ty > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:16

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
I doubt there's anywhere in the US where a permit/electrician is not required for a grid-tie system. Line workers would be in serious risk if it's not done per code. That said, up to the point of actually connecting the system to your utility it's not rocket science. bp

Re: [AFMUG] Tower project software

2015-10-15 Thread Craig House
I've been looking for something similar to this I'm curious what everyone is using to Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2015, at 06:52, timothy steele wrote: > > are any of you using Tower project managment software the plan upgrades that > you care to share google

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
I also ran a check on the latest one having trouble with the WiFi calling. Even though he said it's AT, the DST address (again 4500 UDP) is going to Ericsson. Is this something new? bp On 10/15/2015 4:38 PM, George Skorup wrote: I meant my reply to your post on

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread George Skorup
I meant my reply to your post on the Cambium community. I honestly don't know how many customers we might have using these things (we have decent cell coverage). I looked through some netflow data and found quite a few customers with UDP 4500 traffic. The destinations are Verizon and AT IP

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Chris Gustaf
I think it is worth jumping in here to mention that: 1) FCC Part 15.249 limits for 24 GHz PTP equipment are not based on EIRP, but rather field strength at 3 meters. There is a difference. 2) Trango StrataLink 24 was FCC certified with a 3 foot dish (+44.5 dBi) with the output power set to -3

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Steve was abducted by aliens who left a robot duplicate in his place the last few days. Now they have returned the real Steve, who is grouchy because ... probing? From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable

[AFMUG] OT. Inspector Bernulli series

2015-10-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Watching it and they are in Venice... Seems like everyone speaks fluent German there. Is this typical or poetic license? Cool to see brains solving murders and not technology all the time. Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Asshuat? Hum new one to me. I guess I live a sheltered life. Jaime Solorza On Oct 15, 2015 5:56 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Steve was abducted by aliens who left a robot duplicate in his place the > last few days. Now they have returned the real Steve, who is grouchy >

[AFMUG] tik project

2015-10-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I'm cool, I say tik now Anybody with more skill and talent interested in participating in a project? (Full disclosure, when I say work on project I mean do the work while I complain) also, let me know if somebody already has this done Either a web app or a compiled application Will go to a

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Chris Wright
Someone forgot to take his pills today… yeesh. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
It's pronounced like Ass Man airlines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Aseman_Airlines On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Asshuat? Hum new one to me. I guess I live a sheltered life. > > Jaime Solorza > On Oct 15, 2015 5:56 PM, "Ken Hohhof"

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Inspector Bernulli series

2015-10-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Sorry Brunetti. Stupid monolingual phone. Jaime Solorza On Oct 15, 2015 7:40 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Watching it and they are in Venice... Seems like everyone speaks fluent > German there. Is this typical or poetic license? Cool to see brains > solving murders

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Inspector Bernulli series

2015-10-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Duh dunkoff me...it is a German production Jaime Solorza Sorry Brunetti. Stupid monolingual phone. Jaime Solorza On Oct 15, 2015 7:40 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Watching it and they are in Venice... Seems like everyone speaks fluent > German there. Is this

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS servers

2015-10-15 Thread David Milholen
We use in junction with Freeside which does all we need for now. On 10/15/2015 10:20 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: Have used Steel Belted service provider before and FreeRadius many times much prefer FreeRadius assuming you have expertise on staff, as it's just as scalable and heavily

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
BTW - this is with the SM on the 13.4 release (FSK in this particular case). bp On 10/15/2015 1:12 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I think we have determined that the new AT "WiFi calling" feature will not work with double NAT (even when the customer's router is on the

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread George Skorup
I assume you read my post? Have you ran torch on these customers to see what the actual traffic is? I believe they all use an IPSEC VPN. Should work through one layer of NAT (obviously does as you've seen), but I don't know why not also through the SM DMZ which is really NAT, not PAT. What's

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I'm irritable today I'm tired of everything being taken to extremes the customer IS always right, no argument there, except the caveat of we reserve the right to refuse service. The needs of your customer base should be pretty high in the decision tree, but fuck balls, when the customer is a prick

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Adam Moffett
Sync is a good feature, but personally, given the low EIRP limit at 24ghz I think the option for higher antenna gain is a bigger deal. I also suspect that high perf dishes would allow for channel re-use without sync. I really can't do 24ghz more than 3 miles in any case, so it's pretty rare

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/15/15 15:19, Bill Prince wrote: Hrrrmmm. One 24GHz Trango I know of in San Francisco is using 3' dishes on both ends. I wonder if it's legal... As long as the TX power is set low enough. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
This particular one is on FSK. No. bp On 10/15/2015 3:38 PM, Work wrote: Is this issue on FSK only or 450 also? Did we ever get a fix for Microcell when in NAT mode on FSK?? — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:22 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread George Skorup
Exalt is also doing their ExtendAir G2 in 24GHz U/L now. Which is probably about the same pricing as the Stratalink, although ~half the speed being that it's only 256QAM. Neither of these seem reasonable to me when the AF24 exists. Yeah, the AF24 uses the whole 200MHz, but at least you can

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
Hrrrmmm. One 24GHz Trango I know of in San Francisco is using 3' dishes on both ends. I wonder if it's legal... bp On 10/15/2015 3:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I don't think you can use a 3' antenna with the stratalink24 in FCC land due to total eirp limits...

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
Well I'm happy. ;-) bp On 10/15/2015 12:59 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I guess I should be happy you're on our team. On 10/15/2015 3:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: That farmer is an asshat as well, assuming you just tap into fiber willy nilly. Fuck him, I hope

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I don't think you can use a 3' antenna with the stratalink24 in FCC land due to total eirp limits... Just Canada or other places. On Oct 15, 2015 2:12 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Sync is a good feature, but personally, given the low EIRP limit at 24ghz > I think the option

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
That farmer is an asshat as well, assuming you just tap into fiber willy nilly. Fuck him, I hope his crops die and his livestock goes lame a day after his slow internet times out when paying his insurance On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Interesting

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread chuck
That’s the Steve we know and love... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet That farmer is an asshat as well, assuming you just tap into fiber willy nilly. Fuck him, I hope his crops die and

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Mathew Howard
It's good to see Steve is back to normal! On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Well I'm happy. > > ;-) > > bp > > > > On 10/15/2015 12:59 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I guess I should be happy you're on our team. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
Just confirmed with the subscriber. If their router is on the DMZ and routing; no worky. If it's bridging yes worky. BTW - It's an Asus router. bp On 10/15/2015 1:29 PM, George Skorup wrote: I assume you read my post? Have you ran torch on these customers to see

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread Work
Is this issue on FSK only or 450 also? Did we ever get a fix for Microcell when in NAT mode on FSK?? — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Just confirmed with the subscriber. If their router is on the DMZ and > routing; no worky.

[AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
I think we have determined that the new AT "WiFi calling" feature will not work with double NAT (even when the customer's router is on the DMZ). This is the same behavior we've seen on T-mobile. It seems to work if the customer router is in bridge mode, or the SM is in bridge mode. -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] AT WiFi calling

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
Not sure if I saw your post George. I did a couple of searches, but did not find anything matching. Since 13.4, we've tracked the NAT table, and the subscriber that called this in had zero entries in their NAT table until they switched their router into bridge mode. So I'm fairly certain they

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
I know of an operator in San Francisco that could not get the AF24 to work at relatively short distances (~~ 2.5 kilometers), but was able to get the Trango 24GHz to work. San Francisco (especially downtown) is a fairly busy RF environment. bp On 10/15/2015 2:11

Re: [AFMUG] Cox fiber to the router

2015-10-15 Thread Carlos Alcantar
we do the same thing have a disconnect point on the side of a house then run a patch to the inside of the house . Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com /

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS servers

2015-10-15 Thread Paul Stewart
Err.. well that depends on the application… the scope, size, and “features” you are looking for… FreeRadius is powerful but not point and click – in my $$$job we have invested significant resources into customizing and integrating FreeRadius system/data into other sytems. With Steel

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS servers

2015-10-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
You must be doing some exotics things. Everything my small brain can think of with how we integrate is handled in the database. Things like configuration, pulling data etc. Like most things, I guess YMMV. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 9:22 AM Paul Stewart wrote: > Err.. well that

[AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT

2015-10-15 Thread Peter Kranz
This showed up on the UBNT website. Its 3 30degree antennas bonded into a 90 degree coverage unit using 3 radios. Looks like the experimental unit someone was trying to sell on Ebay earlier this year. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
That is curious. No indication whether that is 30� / 6 dbm or 3 dbm? bp On 10/15/2015 10:18 AM, Peter Kranz wrote: This showed up on the UBNT website. Its 3 30degree antennas bonded into a 90 degree coverage unit using 3 radios. Looks like the experimental

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT

2015-10-15 Thread Keefe John
Got a link? I dont see it. On 10/15/2015 12:18 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: This showed up on the UBNT website. Its 3 30degree antennas bonded into a 90 degree coverage unit using 3 radios. Looks like the experimental unit someone was trying to sell on Ebay earlier this year. *Peter Kranz

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, Steve's comments were excellent. To summarize the whole thing, a couple of us can almost get to him, but not quite - and nobody wants to. It turned out he actually had called us earlier this year. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Steve

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Ty Featherling
I remember that thread. I didn't put this story and that together. This one sounded much saner but his comments before were outrageous. -Ty -Ty On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Yes, Steve's comments were excellent. > > To summarize the whole

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
There's this one in the sidebar: http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/08/want-fiber-internet-thatll-be-383500-isp-tells-farm-owner/ "Schneider’s family used a fixed wireless service for a couple of years, but the speeds were about the same as Windstream, and the provider “complained

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Adam Moffett
Interesting point. I know of a place where the customer bought a 100' tower for $12k to get internet. He also had someone bury conduit from the tower to the house. I don't know what he paid for that part, but it wasn't free. I haven't run into anyone willing to pay 6 figures though. On

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
theres a monopole available to this asshat in another thread here. Tell him to fuck off and buy that then call a WISP On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Sounds like a good business opportunity for some construction worker types > who can learn how to do

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
I know of two guys that spent well above 6 figures to get internet delivered to their rural estates. bp On 10/15/2015 11:34 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Sounds like a good business opportunity for some construction worker types who can learn how to do turnkey Rohn 25G

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT

2015-10-15 Thread Peter Kranz
https://www.ubnt.com/downloads/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket_ac_Prism_DS.pdf Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com

[AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Trango's web shop is selling Stratalink 24 full links for about $4100 a set with 1' dishes... Not bad considering what it is, it's a 1024QAM radio. 750 Mbps full duplex in a 60 MHz wide single polarity (linear) channel, or narrower options suitable for 300-500 Mbps DIA type business customers.

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In Canada with the higher 24 GHz limits it's also possible to use with a pair of 3' dishes (it's a modular radio head, not an integrated product). Weirdly the max Tx power is still +0 in 24 GHz but there's almost no limitations on gain. 60 MHz wide channels should help cut through any

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Joe Falaschi
We've been doing some pretty creative and some pretty expensive installations with Clear's service shutting down. We have had a few people willing to spend 5k to get installations done. One has built a tower. Another one is $900 to create a very unique PTP from a new microsite. It's amazing

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
Agreed for the NW where you are. We're in the SF bay area, and we get "rain", but not like you guys. For the last 4 years we haven't even gotten that. I know of a couple situations that are getting almost 10 miles on a AF24HD. bp On 10/15/2015 11:31 AM, Eric

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The funny thing about the pacific northwest is that it's only ITU rain zone D. We get constant rain and drizzle and grey skies that causes acceptable fades (like, an 18 GHz link that normally sites at -37 with no rain will hang out at -49 for days at a time), but major downpour events are

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In the BC gulf islands and US San Juan islands (NW corner of WA state) there's numerous private islands and estates that when they go on the market sell for $8 million or more... You probably would (or wouldn't?) be surprised to see the efforts some wealthy technology executives have put into

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
Yes. Midwest maximum rain rates are way up there. Looking back in our records, our AF24 (not HD) have lost ~~ 3 dBm during our last real rain event last December. These are 2.25 mile links. bp On 10/15/2015 11:38 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: The funny thing about the

Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax

2015-10-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
It's called a non grid tie inverter. On Oct 15, 2015 9:17 AM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > I wonder if something like that could be designed to get around the > electrician/permit problem. What I'm thinking of, is a small system that > isn't designed to feed anything back into

Re: [AFMUG] Trango stratalink 24 sale

2015-10-15 Thread Bill Prince
60 MHz channel huh? That's pretty sweet compared to the competition. Wonder what kind of range it would get with 2' dishes? I'm wondering if it could do 5.5 miles with reasonable uptime (and "typical" rain environment)? bp On 10/15/2015 11:21 AM, Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] $117,000 to install cable internet

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Sounds like a good business opportunity for some construction worker types who can learn how to do turnkey Rohn 25G installations for customer sites... Maybe financing of a tower build? If you take $8000 and divide it by 96 months with a reasonable interest rate it's not so terrible.