Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
The best in many ways is the Samsung EVO / Pro line, in performance and wear. It's kind of like "buying Intel", if Intel had a lower price than an inferior but more expensive competitor. On Aug 3, 2016 10:53 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > The problem I saw last time I dug into

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

2016-08-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you know everytime i bust out cnut, maybe twice a year, i avoid autoupdate, probably because of a problem with it back in the beginning, like every bit of moto software. i dont see any great advantage to autoupdate, granted i deal with less than 500 devices. I once went through all thr trouble of

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

2016-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
My main problem is coming from updating 430 SMs (200+ of them at one tower) from 11.2 to 13.4.1 so I can replace the APs with 450i. But 430 needs to go through 12.1.x first. To complicate things, the over-the-air upgrades to 12.1.x have been failing, so I have a mix on 11.2, 12.1.2, and 13.x.

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

2016-08-03 Thread Adam Moffett
I agree with everything George said. Once you've gone through and fixed the onesy twosey updates that need to be done to get everybody to the same level, then using autoupdate becomes the best way. Instead of CNUT updating 4 or so SM's at once, each AP can update 4 SM's at once. So it's a

Re: [AFMUG] B11

2016-08-03 Thread mblack
Gino, That seems to be the only configuration that meets the requirement.� The way I see it, in a traditional FDD system you would license an XPIC pair of frequencies, say 11075 H/V at point A and 11565 H/V at point B.� Assuming an 820 running 256QAM you might get 500mbps per polarity per

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Adam Moffett
The problem I saw last time I dug into this (almost 3 years ago now that I think about it!) was that it wasn't obvious which SSD's were made with which technology unless you forked over for "enterprise" SSD's. I put an 8GB enterprise SSD into a server to speed up someone's busy database and

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

2016-08-03 Thread George Skorup
I've always used the 'use access point as file server' option. I assume yours is set the same. What that does is upload the boot image for the configured SM platform revision (P9, 10, etc) to the AP. The *AP* then sends the image down to the SMs (via RF private IP) and reports progress back to

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading anySMs?

2016-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ve been using CNUT for 9 years but am a newbie at SM Autoupdate because I thought it wouldn’t work if you checked Public for the IP address. When I enabled Autoupdate for the AP, CNUT immediately started updating all the SMs it discovered under that AP, without me checking the boxes or even

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading any SMs?

2016-08-03 Thread Sean Heskett
yeah what bill and geroge said -sean On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > What George said. > > However You can sort by version number,check all the ones at the top > of the list (version A), upgrade them to B, then do it again and upgrade > everything

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
The beer? Oh well too tired to drive to store. On Aug 3, 2016 6:18 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > A fate almost as bad as death. > > > bp > > > On 8/3/2016 5:10 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >> And no Tecate at home. Just my wife's PBR and Corona.

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
A fate almost as bad as death. bp On 8/3/2016 5:10 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: And no Tecate at home. Just my wife's PBR and Corona. PBR it will have to be. Salud

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading any SMs?

2016-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
What George said. However You can sort by version number,check all the ones at the top of the list (version A), upgrade them to B, then do it again and upgrade everything to C. bp On 8/3/2016 4:51 PM, George Skorup wrote: It does not understand upgrade

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
An air terminal. Franklin Method

Re: [AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading any SMs?

2016-08-03 Thread George Skorup
It does not understand upgrade path. It will update every SM on the sector to whatever version is enabled and highest in the list for that platform. For example, if you have 13.2.1 on top, then 14.1.2 below that, both checked, it will enable auto-update with 13.2.1. You need to manually add

[AFMUG] CNUT question how to autoupdate without downgrading any SMs?

2016-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Let's say I have an AP with various SMs that are on FW versions A, B and C. Perhaps new installs got sent out with C on them, but the upgrade path requires that you go A -> B -> C, and some older SMs have been taken to B, while some are still on A. Is there a way to upgrade all the SMs on A

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

2016-08-03 Thread George Skorup
rackmount.com, same thing. Expensive yes, but I haven't found anything better. Until Forrest gets the rack mount version done, I'm just going to be mounting things on a piece of rail bolted to a blank panel. Where it will work anyway. Plan is to use the RM version anywhere I have a rack or

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Baird
The StarTech is *much* more flimsy compared to the ones that Ken posted, but they are also much cheaper. I much prefer the ones from ianenclosures.com. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not better but different: > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

2016-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Not better but different: http://www.iaenclosures.com/IAE2015/DIN-Rail-and-Rackmount-Accessories-Product-Selection-Guide/index.html -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 5:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc. We have

[AFMUG] Rack Mount DIN for SyncInjectors Etc.

2016-08-03 Thread Matt
We have been using these to rack mount SyncInjectors etc. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OCRW0W/ Anyone found any better options?

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread David
I like the Harger grounds we use only those for tower grounds. What is the rod that attaches to the Harger? We have used Static cats to just that. On 08/03/2016 03:48 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: On top of Pebble Hills Tank for licensed 900MHz link...

[AFMUG] OT Adwords

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
As an experiment I shut off adwords and bing a few months ago. Site visits dropped but sales increased nicely. Odd. Confusing. But I am not about to turn them back on anytime soon.

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep.. STL and these are Full Duplex licenses. 5 Watt radio with 220 ft. of 1/2 inch Heliax On Aug 3, 2016 3:08 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > He means >928. STLs are usually called "950" by the broadcast engineers I > know. But there's that 930 licensed narrowband for SCADA,

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
SCADA 928/952 MHz MAS radio pool On Aug 3, 2016 3:04 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I know you can get STL licenses on 900. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 3:03 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Chucks

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread George Skorup
He means >928. STLs are usually called "950" by the broadcast engineers I know. But there's that 930 licensed narrowband for SCADA, etc. which those guys usually just call "900". On 8/3/2016 4:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I know you can get STL licenses on 900. *From:* Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I know you can get STL licenses on 900. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work How is it 900 licensed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3,

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
How is it 900 licensed? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3, 2016 4:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > On top of Pebble Hills Tank for licensed 900MHz link... >

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Nice of you to fuzz it out for those that are easily offended. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 2:50 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Chucks mount at work The before naked pic On Aug 3, 2016 2:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: On top of

Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
This is the one I am talking about. Lots of room for horizontal and vertical cable management and PDUs, and can hold those longer servers and big router chassis. http://www.compsource.com/ttechnote.asp?part_no=AR3150X609=37=F On Aug 3, 2016 2:38 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"

Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In a space constrained area it is nice to have the ones with the dual half-width rear doors, it does not need as much open space behind it as a single door. As a lot of enterprise end-user types move to the "cloud", you can get 44U APC cabinets from a refurb equipment dealer in Seattle for $200 a

Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread Paul Stewart
+1000... really like that stuff too! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: August 3, 2016 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet APC NetShelter, wide version. That's the one you want. Get the cable management

Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread Robert Haas
I'm afraid they won't let me buy something that nice! Josh, George - Thanks I'll take a look at those. Is the wide APC Netshelter the 750mm version? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 2:38 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Dennis Burgess
Heck I have a pair of EqualLogic units, 58tbs for under 4k [DennisBurgessSignature] www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, August

Re: [AFMUG] B11

2016-08-03 Thread Gino Villarini
but the radio tx in both channels in the both polarites in both ends ... On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > No, it is just as spectrally efficient as any 256QAM radio... One 80 MHz > "low" channel in both polarities and one 80 MHz "high" channel in

Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I have one of these Black Box QuietCab, it's really nice, but shipping would be a LOT. It weighs like 5lbs http://www.neobits.com/black_box_network_qce42u_black_box_elite_quietcab_p6118000.html?atc=gbp=CjwKEAjwrIa9BRD5_dvqqazMrFESJACdv27G6u0Fu2kXndoJvdpjwORZiAQXKESXa0Gci_3WNwdOjRoCYk_w_wcB

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread George Skorup
5225 foot (take that Mr. Metric) link for 15-20 minutes. It will normally fade about 20dB at most, but that was just a very heavy rain band. Which is not rare. That link has been down that long more than 10 times since it was installed a couple years ago. They're good radios for ~99.75%

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
Really any decent monitoring solution can poll for SMART data as long as it's being exposed by the host via SNMP. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:07 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > I would like to see more inclusion of the BIOS for the monitoring like with > our lenovo

Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
APC NetShelter, wide version. That's the one you want. Get the cable management for it from ebay. Thank me after working with it for a few months. It's worth the money. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > Looking for recommendations on a good cabinet

Re: [AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread George Skorup
We put one of these at our office a couple years ago. I really like it. Very sturdy. https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-SR42UBEXPND-Enclosure-Capacity/dp/B0036WTX2U On 8/3/2016 2:06 PM, Robert Haas wrote: Looking for recommendations on a good cabinet for our office. I�d like to put in a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Physics

2016-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
http://bizarro.com/the-secret-symbols/ bp On 8/3/2016 11:26 AM, Chris Wright wrote: What�s with the blueberry pie on the floor? Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I would like to see more inclusion of the BIOS for the monitoring like with our lenovo thinkservers. I dont know if the consumer would understand having two IPs coming into the same port, but hardware monitoring separate from the OS is the way to go, too many variables. Some of our older ESXi

[AFMUG] Server Cabinet

2016-08-03 Thread Robert Haas
Looking for recommendations on a good cabinet for our office. I'd like to put in a 42u+ cabinet primarily to hold server hardware. Not really needing a climate controlled unit. I'm tired of trying to fit servers onto 23" 2 post telco racks :p Looking at the ones online - are they all pretty

Re: [AFMUG] OT Physics

2016-08-03 Thread Chris Wright
Huh… TIL Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Physics There is almost always some pie, a ufo and an eyeball in

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
There are two types of countries... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > 8 miles is 12.8 km > > silly americans... > > http://i.imgur.com/keKopSM.png > > On

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
I didn't install it, nor would I have recommended it. But it did get installed, and it is operating. It does have a backup. bp On 8/3/2016 12:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: 8 miles is 12.8 km silly americans... http://i.imgur.com/keKopSM.png On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
8 miles is 12.8 km silly americans... http://i.imgur.com/keKopSM.png On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > No he said 8 or 10 miles. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
We just make sure we have an OSPF backup…during rain fade…link goes down…everything is slower for 5-10 min… great capacity for cheap $$ Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Those ones you just got were getting consistent actual 650Mb each way and never faded in rain at .5 miles. Just make sure they are well aligned. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Aug 3, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Thanks. Hope it will do that for a half mile

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
No he said 8 or 10 miles. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > 12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas? Are you nuts? > > I could sneeze

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
My bar was 1.9 miles in the Chicago area, but George said a week or two ago that his 1.5 mile has dropped. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To:

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
12.8 km with an AF24 that has +0 Tx power and tiny antennas? Are you nuts? I could sneeze and bring that down... On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We > also have one that is

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
We have AF24s operating at 2-1/4 miles without drops in Bay Area rain. We also have one that is operating at 8 or 10 miles (forget how far), but it experiences drops in heavy rain. bp On 8/3/2016 11:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Thanks. Hope it will do that for a

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Half a mile should be OK, just depends how hard it is raining. If it's for 911 service I'd look elsewhere but if it's just for porntube you'll be fine. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Thanks. Hope it will do that for a half mile during a Utah rain. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Assuming 2 x 100 MHz FDD channels high and low, the AF24s are close enough to each other to stay in their best 64QAM modulation, it's 730-740 Mbps each direction. Full duplex. It can also operate in a single 100 MHz channel in which case the capacity is much less. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:48

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
700 mbps full duplex, there's no changing the sync ratio Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I just picked up a used AF24. It has been years since I deployed one

Re: [AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
700 megabit in one direction, FDX. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:48:43 PM Subject: [AFMUG]

[AFMUG] AF24

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I just picked up a used AF24. It has been years since I deployed one of these. And it was an early one that lost its radome during the first windstorm. What is the true FDX throughput? Is there an up down ratio of an aggregate throughput or? Interwebs say 1.4 Gbps. Not sure if that is

Re: [AFMUG] OT Physics

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
There is almost always some pie, a ufo and an eyeball in the frame on Bizarro. I guess that makes it bizarre. From: Chris Wright Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Physics What’s with the blueberry pie on the floor? Chris Wright Network

Re: [AFMUG] OT Physics

2016-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
It's one of the Bizarro "icons". I usually try to count all the icons in any given Bizarro comic. There are anywhere from zero to maybe as many as a dozen icons. That particular one has 3 icons that I saw: * pie * evil eye * upside-down bird That's all I found. bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT Physics

2016-08-03 Thread Chris Wright
What's with the blueberry pie on the floor? Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Physics http://bizarro.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I like to do that too, but only with companies I know well and expect a change based on something they are doing. From: Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock I was never suggesting Fitbit as a long term stock... it was a

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
Normally a rotation drive will start throwing errors or making noises when it's on it's deathbed. Easy to hear at home, but impossible to hear in a datacenter or server closet. An SSD when it dies is often just "vanishes" in catastrophic fashion. Hopefully you/someone is watching SMART

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Paul Stewart
You raise a good point Travis and I hear you ;) There’s what I call disciplined investors who think long term strategy, building the portfolio, distributing the risks, staying away from “gimmicky stocks” etc …. That’s me in a nutshell Then there’s “quick win” investors who hope to jump

[AFMUG] 2.3Ghz WCS interference At

2016-08-03 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Does anyone know where I can get contact information to discuss cross boarder interference with AT?? We seem to be victims of Tropospheric Ducting during the 10pm to 9am hours with our constant sunny hot days here in Ontario. I have reached out to our regulatory body here in Canada...but they

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Travis Johnson
I was never suggesting Fitbit as a long term stock... it was a 3 month play, that actually happened in one month... 15% return in 30 days is pretty good. I would never invest long term (over a year) in a single stock... all of my long term investments are in mutual funds, etc from places like

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Other than price, which will be more reliable over the long haul? Ever since I first used a flash chip back in the early 2000s the worry about wearing out the storage elements has always been on my mind. But with the wear leveling techniques built into SSDs and the increase in storage cell

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Paul Stewart
So do I :) More so I really enjoy long term dividend stocks … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: August 3, 2016 1:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock I love index funds. From: Paul Stewart

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Travis Johnson
I never said I was sure about my picks... people asked if I had any other suggestions. I told them Fitbit about 30 days ago it's now up 15% over those 30 days... sometimes you just get lucky. :) Travis On 8/3/2016 10:23 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: If Travis is sure about his picks, then he

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
Blackblaze released their annual report the other day. The 8TB HGST seem to have great MTBF - I was surprised. (45 x 8TB per chassis, +2 raid1 OS SSDs I believe) = 360TB Sexy stuff. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Large scale backup storage? > > I can

Re: [AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Large scale backup storage? I can build a server with 40 * 8TB 3.5" HGST spinning 7200 rpm drives, divided up into several Linux mdadm RAID6 arrays with hotspares, for considerably less money than the same capacity built out of 1TB 2.5" SSDs. There is now a Samsung 15TB SSD that costs ten

[AFMUG] Rotating Media

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Is there a good reason to continue to use rotating media going forward?

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I love index funds. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock The whole investment thing is made up of risk so what’s a bit more? ;) I’m personally not a big fan of Fitbit stock – massive declines at each of its first

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Paul Stewart
The whole investment thing is made up of risk so what’s a bit more? ;) I’m personally not a big fan of Fitbit stock – massive declines at each of its first quarterly reports .. down 70% on 52 week high …. Their sales model is very weak and filled with a lot of competition so don’t see

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Rise? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 12:41:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock Whatever

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Exactly Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3, 2016 1:41 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Whatever happened to them? > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Whatever happened to them? From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock If youre looking to invest, Chuck, I still have some Keyon stock Ill sell you, i really think its going to make a turnaround On Wed, Aug 3, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If youre looking to invest, Chuck, I still have some Keyon stock Ill sell you, i really think its going to make a turnaround On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > If Travis is sure about his picks, then he stands to earn 20% of the take > with no skin in the

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Fiber in helped to install in 1990 is as good as the day it went in the ground. So 26 years and counting. I’ll bet it will be good at the 50 year mark and probably the 100 year mark. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-08-03 Thread Mike Hammett
IIRC, Sprint completed trials of 400G super-channels on a several hundred kilometer segment of their initial network build. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke"

Re: [AFMUG] B11

2016-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
No, it is just as spectrally efficient as any 256QAM radio... One 80 MHz "low" channel in both polarities and one 80 MHz "high" channel in both polarities, as a typical FDD band plan such as you would use with a configuration with 2 dishes, 2 orthomode transducers and 4 radio heads (each radio

Re: [AFMUG] B11

2016-08-03 Thread mblack
We haven't had the pleasure of coordinating a B11 link yet, but they certainly seem to be popular based upon the number of PCNs we are seeing.��So, a dumb question hopefully based�upon�a simple misunderstanding of the numbers: I don't see how this meets the�FCC minimum efficiency standards

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-08-03 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The other huge thing about fiber is that properly done singlemode, assuming it does not become physically damaged, is almost infinitely future proof... What you install now could be in use in 30 years. If you pull 9/125 G.657.A1 to a rooftop now for a 1 Gbps link and terminate it properly in a

Re: [AFMUG] bridgewave eagle 80ghz

2016-08-03 Thread Peter Kranz
The Siklu EH-2500 is a 2Gbps product for a lower price point than the Eagle.. If you need 3 Gbps, I think the Eagle is the only option at this time.. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
If Travis is sure about his picks, then he stands to earn 20% of the take with no skin in the game. Of course there is that minor tiny downside risk From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:21 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock It would probably make it slightly

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Mathew Howard
It would probably make it slightly difficult to get many investors after the first few... On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > I'm not sure a ponzi scheme works very well if every single investor knows > it's a ponzi scheme > > On 8/3/2016 10:23 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Adam Moffett
Isn't that what stock brokers do? I think you need a license or some such. -- Original Message -- From: "Simon Westlake" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/3/2016 9:43:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock Now there's a business idea. If we all do it, he could be the

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Simon Westlake
I'm not sure a ponzi scheme works very well if every single investor knows it's a ponzi scheme On 8/3/2016 10:23 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Federal prison isnt that bad but is it really a ponzi scheme if everyone invested knows what it is? On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Simon

[AFMUG] OT Physics

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
http://bizarro.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Federal prison isnt that bad but is it really a ponzi scheme if everyone invested knows what it is? On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Now there's a business idea. If we all do it, he could be the next Bernie > Madoff. Just make sure I'm towards the

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
That explains all the VPNs from Canada. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3, 2016 10:49 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yes but the frigging thing blocks all .mx domains! > > *From:* Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Tyler Treat
but only after they penetrated the internet to defeat UBNT. From: Af on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes but the frigging thing blocks all .mx domains! From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 8:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software They built a firewall to make it great again Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Josh Luthman
They built a firewall to make it great again Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 3, 2016 10:34 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Ahh, so that is why the GUI is so slow > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Bill Prince
It's a new Android platform. bp On 8/3/2016 7:02 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Is that Cambium Pure^TM ? Sounds like an organic food brand or an abstinence pledge. *From:* David *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 8:32 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Ahh, so that is why the GUI is so slow From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 8:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software I heard there is a Trump sticker inside every EPMP case On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I heard there is a Trump sticker inside every EPMP case On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Sounds Aryan > > On Aug 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > >> Is that Cambium PureTM? Sounds like an organic food brand or an >>

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Sounds Aryan On Aug 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Is that Cambium PureTM? Sounds like an organic food brand or an > abstinence pledge. > > *From:* David > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 8:32 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

2016-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is that Cambium PureTM? Sounds like an organic food brand or an abstinence pledge. From: David Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 8:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software Cambium Link planner. Of course we are cambium pure which makes it easy.

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Simon Westlake
Now there's a business idea. If we all do it, he could be the next Bernie Madoff. Just make sure I'm towards the top of the pyramid so I get my money out first! On 8/3/2016 8:41 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Hey Travis, How about you manage some money for me. I give you 20% of the realized gains

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

2016-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Hey Travis, How about you manage some money for me. I give you 20% of the realized gains but you agree to cover any losses? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock Well did anyone take my

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