Re: [AFMUG] nTop

2017-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
solarwinds has the free one but I think it resets after 24 hours On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Ntopd? Andrew Cox has a nice blog post on setting it up. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St >

[AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

2017-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
We turned up BGP on one of our routers today, 2 peers, full routes, this is just one upstream, we will be turning up bgp with another provider shortly elsewhere on the network, I assume those tables will make their way to this router. load averaged 4-12% prior to turning up BGP now its running 60-9

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
an addendum to this, there are two primay variants to the payload. One tends to be much more aggressive, a much more roughly defined code, not all that pretty, but ultimately very versatile and robust. The other is normally more elegant in design, but it tends to be visciously malicious, this is th

[AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network. Sometime around January we had opted to remove an old firewall that had met its product life cycles end. We were still in the process of deciding whether to continue with temporary firewalls or look toward more robust input/output chain pol

Re: [AFMUG] nTop

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Ntopd? Andrew Cox has a nice blog post on setting it up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 8, 2017 10:33 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" wrote: > Been a while since I've had to do anything like this, but I want to > take a fl

[AFMUG] nTop

2017-05-08 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Been a while since I've had to do anything like this, but I want to take a flow from Mikrotik and dump it to a collector to analyze traffic. Seem that ntop is now a paid program. Any good open source stuff out there that has a nice web interface? -- Thanks, Mark mailt

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Joe Novak
I have read that building a 60ghz antenna is a whole new ball game of complicated compared to other bands. Until recently 60ghz antennas where built SOC style, directly on the PCB of the board next to or on the radio itself. I believe this may actually still be the case. Ignitenet's design is based

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Jason McKemie
The power taps are what would kill anything but a very dense deployment. Anything less and you'd be better off just running fiber. On Monday, May 8, 2017, Mathew Howard wrote: > I think the 30 degree sector Ignitenet has is something like 18dbi, vs > 25dbi for their bigger directional... I tried

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Well I've had D-Link since 2006 and they didn't die on a Monday morning :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 8, 2017 5:46 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I wasn't going to say it, but I'm glad somebody did! > > - Josh > > On May 8

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I think the 30 degree sector Ignitenet has is something like 18dbi, vs 25dbi for their bigger directional... I tried to get a pair of Metrolinqs to work at just under a mile (which should theoretically work), but I never could get them to link. I tested at about half that distance and it worked fin

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Brett A Mansfield
1500m is exactly what I meant. AKA 1.5 km. I thought I'd have constant rain fade, but it's only switched to the 5GHz backup once and that was in very heavy rain. The links are just below 1500. One is 1486m and another is about 1440m. I'm not sure what my other two are exactly, but pretty close t

[AFMUG] An Alien-Hunting Submarine Is Being Tested in Antarctica - Motherboard

2017-05-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Interesting radio repeater story https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/alien-hunting-sub-europa-artemis-stone-aerospace

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Be creative... Backhaul with 5 or 11GHz to good spot to set up 60GHz PMP AP and hit nearby business or homes...Vivint does it with 28Ghz and 5GHz... On May 8, 2017 3:43 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Even if it existed 2000 ft is wildly optimistic. 60 GHz works at 600 > meters (just about 2000 ft fo

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
1500m between two 30 or 60 cm dishes? Fades *a bit* in rain? You sure you mean 1500m and not 1500 ft? 1500m is way too far for 60 GHz PTP unless you're in the Libyan desert. On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Brett A Mansfield < li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote: > I have a few PTP 60GHz lin

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I have a few PTP 60GHz links at 1500 meters working perfectly at -61. Sure it fades in heavy rain a tiny bit, but no more than my 3 mile 24GHz links. I also have several PtMP links as far as 800 meters working well with -65 or better. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On May 8, 2017, at 3:43 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
I wasn't going to say it, but I'm glad somebody did! - Josh On May 8, 2017 3:43 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > I hope you’re kidding right ? ;) > > On May 8, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > Hold on Dlink makes some pretty good switches... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(93

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Even if it existed 2000 ft is wildly optimistic. 60 GHz works at 600 meters (just about 2000 ft for you Americans) between two PTP dishes because you have 44-45dBi gain dishes on both ends. Would not be the case with any sort of 60 GHz sector antenna, you'd be looking at much less gain. On Mon, Ma

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Prince
Very location specific. None of our towers would be able to serve anyone with that kind of range. bp On 5/8/2017 2:15 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Indeed... don't underestimate what can be done with a 2000' range. I can probably cover a hundred houses with that from the tower next to where I'm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: I made it out

2017-05-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
nice On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:54 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Wife and I hiked down and back up the Rio Grande Gorge south of Taos > yesterdayLots of cool birds flying around and cat claw prints in on > the rift trails but didn't see any. >

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Indeed... don't underestimate what can be done with a 2000' range. I can probably cover a hundred houses with that from the tower next to where I'm sitting. On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > I concur > > From: Af on behalf of Sterling Jacobson < > sterl...@avative.net>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Paul Stewart
I hope you’re kidding right ? ;) > On May 8, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Hold on Dlink makes some pretty good switches... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Chuck McCo

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Gino A. Villarini
I concur From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, May 8, 2017 at 4:31 PM To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] rohn anti-climb guard pictures.

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
https://www.talleycom.com/images/roh25acl_big.jpg From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 2:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rohn anti-climb guard pictures. Most modern ascetics don't use the Internet, they can be found living in a wood shack like the Unabomber with no electric

Re: [AFMUG] rohn anti-climb guard pictures.

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Standing on one foot, head back, mouth open, waiting for rain to drink. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 2:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rohn anti-climb guard pictures. Most modern ascetics don't use the Internet, they can be found living in a wood shack like the Un

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Lots. Lots of places. I’ve got, and can get fiber up main roads in neighborhoods very easily. What costs me is the last mile backbone that winds across streets and through ROW in front of houses etc. That is the majority of my costs right there. If I can get in with ‘normal’ wireless pricing p

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
1000 to 2000 ft distance is really optimistic for PtMP in 60 GHz even... With FCC EIRP limits for 60 GHz PTP the longest it's good for around here is 600 meters. A little bit more out to 800-900m with the weird Bridgewave 60 GHz product that combines regular maximum Tx power but uses a 60 cm dish o

Re: [AFMUG] rohn anti-climb guard pictures.

2017-05-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Most modern ascetics don't use the Internet, they can be found living in a wood shack like the Unabomber with no electricity. Aesthetics, on the other hand... On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Anyone have a picture of a rohn 45,55, or 65 with a sheetmetal style > climbin

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I don't have a problem with their range or capacity. What I do have an issue with current specs is that it is one AP to 8 clients. I need this to be more in the 'normal' range of an AP to 15-30 clients or more. Given the higher bandwidth, it would be a lot easier to spread a 1000Mbps connection

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Colin Stanners
How many places do you want to install a PtMP system that goes a maximum of 1000-2000ft distance, that fiber does not work? On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > What am I missing here? > > Can't Cambium and UBNT and others simply overlay the same radio > architecture/softwa

[AFMUG] rohn anti-climb guard pictures.

2017-05-08 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Anyone have a picture of a rohn 45,55, or 65 with a sheetmetal style climbing guard installed on it. We are looking to do a micro pop and the land owner is concerned about ascetics. So we proposed a free standing rohn 65 with a climbing guard up 15 feet from ground level to make it look more "like

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I am hoping that a ton of 60 GHz amps are being developed for this so I can make my own homebrew "active denial" system. Hide the transmitter and antenna under my coat. Go up to someone that is giving me grief and raise my hands: " I command you in the name of (insert favorite deity or demig

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Bill Prince
The top reasons that come to mind right away are: (1) Range. How close can you tolerate? It's not going to go very far in a PMP environment. Maybe a few hundred yards. If there are trees, forget about it. (2) Modulation. Don't expect something in that frequency to be doing higher level modul

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I agree, I think it’s unproven market, and perhaps the need for much faster CPU processing for the throughput? Still, the basics of the PtMP coding should all be the same no matter what band? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 2:13 PM To: a

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
But all of that is in the second half of the radio. From the ethernet port to the modulation demodulation systems it should be the same as other radios. And if they use robust modultion, you could just transvert an old canopy FSK design... Of course with much higher throughput. I am guessi

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The atmospheric characteristics of 60 GHz are radically different. Antenna design is very different due to frequency for anything resembling a "sector". Unless you want PtMP that's only good within 250 meters... More challenging than you might think. A lot of the work that has been done over the

Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Has any of these been deployed, in an area with real seasons for a full year yet? -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 2:05 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? What am I missing here? Can't Cambium and UBNT

[AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It?

2017-05-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
What am I missing here? Can't Cambium and UBNT and others simply overlay the same radio architecture/software they have developed over a decade, on top of a 60GHz radio instead of 5Ghz? Is there some fundamental problem with using the same PHY later protocols on 60GHz vs 5GHz?

Re: [AFMUG] Rectifier Repair?

2017-05-08 Thread Andrew Haninger
Look up AvE on YouTube? Maybe he would do it for the cost of shipping? Could make for an interesting video. (Seriously.) Actually, I'm half kidding. There's also a good chance you'd get them back in worse shape. :-) On May 8, 2017 13:14, "Gino A. Villarini" wrote: > I have about 8 Emerson Dead

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Switch redundancy isn’t all that hard to configure. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Layne Sisk Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 12:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus So just a bit of feedback on this. We had a switch die and it cause a temporary outage. Initial

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Good to hear from you again. The list IQ just went up a bit. From: Layne Sisk Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus So just a bit of feedback on this. We had a switch die and it cause a temporary outage. Initially thought it was an upstream p

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Layne Sisk
So just a bit of feedback on this. We had a switch die and it cause a temporary outage. Initially thought it was an upstream provider, but it turned out to be the switch. Very bad timing for it to happen on a Monday morning ☹. Back-up switch is in place and a new Cisco is being run through t

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Hold on Dlink makes some pretty good switches... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Nah, they are totally D-Link based. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, May 08, 2017 12:16

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Nah, they are totally D-Link based. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus It was a terrible timing, we sat down for a company meeting to go over the initial sheets at ten am, it went dead at like 10:10. I wonder if somebody unpl

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
It was a terrible timing, we sat down for a company meeting to go over the initial sheets at ten am, it went dead at like 10:10. I wonder if somebody unplugged their core linksy box On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > First time that I can recall. We started in November 2012

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
First time that I can recall. We started in November 2012. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Very uncommon. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, May 08, 2017 11:11 AM > *To:

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Very uncommon. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 11:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus is it safe to assume this is uncommon? On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Website just came back up. I'm on hold with the supervisors desk. Jo

[AFMUG] Rectifier Repair?

2017-05-08 Thread Gino A. Villarini
I have about 8 Emerson Dead Rectifiers, any input on where can I send them for repair besides Emerson? ( they charge almost the cost of the units) Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.pn

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
is it safe to assume this is uncommon? On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Website just came back up. > > I'm on hold with the supervisors desk. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Concert

2017-05-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I want to see that concert, but my wife isn’t a fan. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Concert I got to see Tears for Fears and Hall & Oates in one sitting last night. Both good, but Tears for

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Website just came back up. I'm on hold with the supervisors desk. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Their website is down as well... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Their website is down as well... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I have the same issue, glad someone else posted. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I have the same issue, glad someone else posted. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > Are they down, website went down, their phones are non responsive >

[AFMUG] Serverplus

2017-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
Are they down, website went down, their phones are non responsive

Re: [AFMUG] Biggest raspberry pi 3 kit

2017-05-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
Thanks Forest. Hybrid kits with Arduino would be fine. He specifically wants to learn Python, which is why I thought of the Rasberry. If the other AD is pretty simple I am sure it wouldn't be to much of a distraction. On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 6:40 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetfl

Re: [AFMUG] Biggest raspberry pi 3 kit

2017-05-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
The problem with the PI is that it basically just has Binary GPIO - no analog I/O. This shortcoming eliminates a large variety of analog-only sensors (without adding a DAC) Because of this, there really aren't nearly as many compelling "lots of sensors to play with" kits out there... Most "del

Re: [AFMUG] test

2017-05-08 Thread dsd gfryh
This helped with one of the stuck users the other "Mike Test" seems to sick regardless of the method I attempt to use to unsubscribe. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: > List-Unsubscribe: , > >

Re: [AFMUG] Biggest raspberry pi 3 kit

2017-05-08 Thread dsd gfryh
Amazon has a wide selection of kits that include getting started tutorials and manuals. If he is new to python the tutorials and manuals will likely be of a great resource. On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > The Pi isn't really a sen