Re: [AFMUG] epmp 3.3 5ghz disconnects

2017-06-06 Thread Daniel Gerlach
no Problems on 3.3 2017-06-03 3:22 GMT+02:00 George Skorup : > I have roughly 10% of our ePMP stuffs on 3.3. The rest is all on 3.2.2. > Haven't noticed any issues on the 3.3 units, but 10% is obviously a small > amount. > > > On 6/2/2017 7:53 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

2017-06-06 Thread Stefan Englhardt
There are routerboards with ipsec hardware encryption. E.g. the cheap hex. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Steve Jones Datum: 07.06.17 06:51 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

2017-06-06 Thread Steve Jones
I know zero on that. That's all I have to say about that On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Is encapsulating eoip a multi-threaded task? > > I wonder if there's something on the wiki that tells us what tasks or > processes benefit from more cores. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Try forcing to 10Mb/s and see if that helps as well If it does, then I concur with everyone else - ferrites and/or shielding. On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Craig House wrote: > I'm afraid you may be right. Yes we have killed all of the devices one at > a time

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Moffett
Is encapsulating eoip a multi-threaded task? I wonder if there's something on the wiki that tells us what tasks or processes benefit from more cores. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 6/6/2017 10:27:03 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

2017-06-06 Thread Steve Jones
I'm going to CCR1072s Hopefully the issue resolves On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > I get a hair over 200mbps over encrypted EOIP on a pair of CCR1036’s with > no optimizing (can they be optimized, anyone?). > > > > Chris Wright > > Network

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

2017-06-06 Thread Steve Jones
apparently, God had other plans On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: > If he has any income (especially earned) at all, then yes on the tax > evasion. > > > On 5/13/17 9:43 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: > >> Don't you wonder? Is it? >> >> On 05/13/2017 07:58

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Moffett
It can be calculated with steel and fiberglass, but yeah with wood I don't know for sure. Swaying side to side doesn't hurt anything enough to notice, but front to back will change the antenna's elevation. The pole in my pic from earlier is fiberglass at 70' AGL. The equipment on it (3' dish

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Chris Fabien
If you have any backhaul dishes planned for it, I think your question is not going to be the max antennas it can handle without breaking, but how much you can load it vs how much deflection in the signal will be acceptable. That might be hard to calculate, it's a beam bending problem with a

Re: [AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

2017-06-06 Thread Chris Wright
I get a hair over 200mbps over encrypted EOIP on a pair of CCR1036’s with no optimizing (can they be optimized, anyone?). Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

[AFMUG] Need a better mikrotik tunnel than EOIP

2017-06-06 Thread Steve Jones
For whatever reason, my tunnel has collapsed. throughput went from a consistent 80 percent of our limiting upstream (100mbps) now over 10 and it goes latency shit I don't know if its the tunnel as a singularity or if its saturation of the upstream causing some issues Fuckall when you have super

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap Outdoor Dual-Band WiFi Client?

2017-06-06 Thread Jaime Solorza
Altai A3 is one I saw used in three day concert event recently...they looked robust. On Jun 6, 2017 12:57 PM, "can...@believewireless.net" < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > According to the forum, it can only be used as an AP but can mesh on the > 5GHz. I'm looking for a client > that can

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Moffett
Shucks I dunno. I guess I should say, if somebody wanted to add something then I would ask them to seriously consider whether they really need it. -- Original Message -- From: "Carl Peterson" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 6/6/2017 5:29:28 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread Jaime Solorza
100mbps FDD link is the worse...not sure if 1000Mbps affects two way Systems in VHF bands...shielded cabling and ferrite is one solutionconduit and isolation is anotheryou should also be on different power and grounding sources. Isolators can help if you can't separate power. On Jun 6,

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Carl Peterson
How about this nanobeam? Its wafer thin. [image: Inline image 2] On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > and I would not put anything more on it. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread George Skorup
It's most likely not the POE circuits, but 100Mbps ethernet = 125MHz. Not uncommon to see noise up into the 144 amateur and 150 service bands. We're co-located with our local public safety dispatch org at a couple sites. And we both have ethernet running up the towers. All of our grounding is

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Moffett
I remember interfering with somebody's 2-way setup and switching to shielded cables helped.but only after we grounded the shield. I think I just peeled out extra drain wire and wrapped it around the ground lug on an SS. We can imagine it was McCown Tech SS if we want. You can also run

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Moffett
and I would not put anything more on it. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/6/2017 5:01:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole? It's a 3' dish and six sector antennas. --

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Moffett
It's a 3' dish and six sector antennas. -- Original Message -- From: "Lewis Bergman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/6/2017 3:53:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole? Kind of looks like a 30 inch but you are likely

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread Chuck McCown
Ferrite and shielding. -Original Message- From: Craig House Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz I'm afraid you may be right. Yes we have killed all of the devices one at a time and it appears the noise

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread Craig House
I'm afraid you may be right. Yes we have killed all of the devices one at a time and it appears the noise detected drops by a couple of DB with each device we unplug. But since the devices are POE is there even a solution to this?? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2017, at 15:19, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread Chuck McCown
Have you killed each of your devices one at a time to localize it to a device? I would suspect ethernet noise. -Original Message- From: Craig House Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz We have equipment located

[AFMUG] Interference on a repeater at 149 MHz

2017-06-06 Thread Craig House
We have equipment located on to Towers one is a water tower the other is a guyed110 foot tower. In both locations there are two way repeaters located on the towers that are receiving interference from what appears to be our equipment. Nothing is substantially common between the way the two

Re: [AFMUG] PCN Monitoring

2017-06-06 Thread George Skorup
The last quote I got from Liz for her frequency protection service was $50/path/year, $500 minimum. That is very reasonable. On 6/6/2017 9:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I think it was $1200 a year for all my licenses On Tue, Jun 6, 2017, 7:34 AM Adair Winter

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap Outdoor Dual-Band WiFi Client?

2017-06-06 Thread can...@believewireless.net
According to the forum, it can only be used as an AP but can mesh on the 5GHz. I'm looking for a client that can connect on 2.4GHz or 5GHz. On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Ubiquiti Mesh radio. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap Outdoor Dual-Band WiFi Client?

2017-06-06 Thread Rory Conaway
Ubiquiti Mesh radio. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap Outdoor Dual-Band WiFi Client? Anyone know of a cheap, dual-band wifi client that can be mounted outdoors?

[AFMUG] Cheap Outdoor Dual-Band WiFi Client?

2017-06-06 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Anyone know of a cheap, dual-band wifi client that can be mounted outdoors?

Re: [AFMUG] PCN Monitoring

2017-06-06 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think it was $1200 a year for all my licenses On Tue, Jun 6, 2017, 7:34 AM Adair Winter wrote: > How much do you pay comsearch for that? > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: > >> In my case it was worth it. We had

Re: [AFMUG] PCN Monitoring

2017-06-06 Thread Adair Winter
How much do you pay comsearch for that? On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > In my case it was worth it. We had it through ComSearch but I am sure Liz > is just as good. Once you get a few dozen links out there spread across a > few hundred miles you

Re: [AFMUG] PCN Monitoring

2017-06-06 Thread Lewis Bergman
In my case it was worth it. We had it through ComSearch but I am sure Liz is just as good. Once you get a few dozen links out there spread across a few hundred miles you get tons of notices. It was taking me hours every week to review all the PCN's I was receiving. I know the service works since

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Jaime Solorza
Limestone in many areas and mountains...most states are the size of our counties...zaz... On Jun 5, 2017 6:30 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > I thought you only had sand in Texas > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] PCN Monitoring

2017-06-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I believe Liz Creekmore has a monitoring service. I don't know what's involved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] what is the typical wind load of an 80' telephone pole?

2017-06-06 Thread Adam Moffett
I wonder what the reasoning would be for that rule. Is that a policy of your power company? In this neck of the woods we definitely get meters installed on our own poles. Also, you can't set a meter on the pole unless they retain ownership or you lease the pole as part of the service.

[AFMUG] PCN Monitoring

2017-06-06 Thread Steve Jones
First, I guess when the initial request is made, I assume the system its put into is pretty robust as far as identifying potential harmful interference, I'm guessing its built on a better safe than sorry algorithm? So by the time a PCN makes it to my inbox, what is the likelihood the proposed