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*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120...
I think almost everything is rated at -6db now.
: Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
This needs to sync with a full cluster of Canopy APs that is only 3 miles away.
bp
On 2/17/2015 5:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
There is always the business case to use another vendor with lower ROI.
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SP
y. I have had antennas have horrible ugly plots at some
frequencies but nice ones at other frequencies.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:35 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
Yes, assuming they're accurate,
tennas have horrible ugly plots
> at some frequencies but nice ones at other frequencies.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:35 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
>
> Yes, assuming they'
dnesday, February 18, 2015 11:35 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
Yes, assuming they're accurate, but that may be a lot to assume...
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote:
Assuming the plo
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From: "Jerry Richardson"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:22:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 G
: *"Jerry Richardson"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
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> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
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> That’s what I was basing my first reply on, but then I saw that note.
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To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
If the pattern in the spec sheet is accurate, this one looks like it's actually
a bit more than 120 at -3db
http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=HW-SA58-120-16D&eq=&Tp=&o1=0
These also look
to:je...@richardson.bz> > wrote:
You are right, there’s a little note that says 120* is -6dB. Bastards…
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf
Of Mathew Howard
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To: af
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
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> This needs to sync with
You are right, there’s a little note that says 120* is -6dB. Bastards…
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:11 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
That's the one I wa
al pol sector.
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> http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5821SD1_DS_061312.pdf
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
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zimuth patterns don’t match very well.
From: Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120
AP?
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:50 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
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> This site is not ABAB. It's not even AB. It is merely A. One sector;
> 120° wide, with about 15 subs.
hey? Plus the HPOL and VPOL azimuth patterns don’t match very well.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:05 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
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> I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3d
ebruary 17, 2015 2:05 PM
*To:* af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120... I think
almost everything is rated at -6db now.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dm
esday, February 17, 2015 6:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
This site is not ABAB. It's not even AB. It is merely A. One sector;
120° wide, with about 15 subs. About as low as you can go. The problem
is t
re kind of ugly,
aren’t they? Plus the HPOL and VPOL azimuth patterns don’t match very
well.
*From:* Mathew Howard <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:05 PM
*To:* af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector i
-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
This site is not ABAB. It's not even AB. It is merely A. One sector;
120° wide, with about 15 subs. About as low as you can go. The problem
is that most of the subs are near the outer edges of a 120° secto
What if there was a Lite AP?
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
This site is not ABAB. It's not even AB. It is merely A. One sector; 120° wide,
with about 15 subs. About as lo
2015 2:05 PM
*To:* af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120... I think
almost everything is rated at -6db now.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gma
He should probably get an omni then.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
Bill's issue is that it has a finite rolloff. Some would say that's an
advantage and shows good q
azimuth patterns don’t match very well.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:05 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]Decent "true" DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120... I think almost
everything is rated at -6db now.
On Tue, Feb 1
Bill's issue is that it has a finite rolloff. Some would say that's an
advantage and shows good quality. It's not to his liking for whatever
application, though.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Math
I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120... I think almost
everything is rated at -6db now.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> The new 120 is the old 90search for something advertised as wider
> than 120 I guess?
>
> What I'm looking for is a 120° sector t
The new 120 is the old 90search for something advertised as wider
than 120 I guess?
What I'm looking for is a 120° sector that drops off no more than 3db
at the edges. The 6 db bull that seems to be common these days is not
what I'm looking for.
Also want good F/B ratio, good cross-pol pe
it's feast or famine. We have a couple of POPs where we need 30°
sectors, but on small POPs, the 120° would be ideal, because there will
only be one, or maybe two.
bp
On 2/17/2015 11:08 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
I wish I could help. We actually put way more sectors out than that at
most site
I wish I could help. We actually put way more sectors out than that at
most sites. Smaller sites we just put out a 6 way cluster on a pole and
rotate it until we get the nulls where we want them.
We're very interested in testing the rf elements horns for micropops though.
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SP
What I'm looking for is a 120° sector that drops off no more than 3db at
the edges. The 6 db bull that seems to be common these days is not what
I'm looking for.
Also want good F/B ratio, good cross-pol performance, and tiny side
lobes. In perfect world, it would drop off 30db at 121°.
I wa
Good drop off is a good thing IMO.
If you want less drop off probably go with an original Airmax sector.
Those things bleed for days and the f/b isn't very good. We installed half
a dozen people 180* off one of them.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 133
No one?
bp
On 2/17/2015 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Has anyone found a decent TRUE 120° dual-polarity sector in 5 GHz?
We're using a KP on one of our POPs and the drop-off at the edge of
the 120° is just too much for our taste.
Has anyone found a decent TRUE 120° dual-polarity sector in 5 GHz? We're
using a KP on one of our POPs and the drop-off at the edge of the 120°
is just too much for our taste.
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