es? No.
>
> If I had more free time I'd stand up for the principle but at the
> moment, islanding will just have to do. :-) I suppose I could
> try to
> summon the reddit but I do still need electricity for now.
>
> -Hal
>
>
o. :-) I suppose I could
> try to
> summon the reddit but I do still need electricity for now.
>
> -Hal
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:31 AM Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
>
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mai
-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 4:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
I get 100% credit for the energy I produce. I have an $8.50 minimum bill.
But if I am a net producer, the account gets zeroed out
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 4:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
I get 100% credit for the energy I produce. I have an $8.50 minimum bill.
But if I am a net producer, the account gets zeroed out each March. I will not
lose much as my array is sized
PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
At least here in NV, it's only a 9/10ths offset and the offset is
calculated month to month and settled at the end of the year.
On 02/08/2017 12:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
There are num
, I would be buying batts and inverters too.
*From:* Harold Bledsoe
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
<mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject:* R
e reddit but I do still need electricity for now.
>>
>> -Hal
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:31 AM Chuck McCown > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>> wrote:
>>
>&g
I know there are mechanical methodsgiant flywheels, water
reservoirs.
I don't know how practical it is at a large scale.
-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/7/2017 10:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery
wn mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>> wrote:
I have 10 kW so it would be an extra $70... that sucks.
Yeah, I would be buying batts and inverters too.
*From:* Harold Bledsoe
*Sent:* Tuesday,
ld Bledsoe
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:24 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
When we first did it, we had to pay a $5/mo "administrative"
only 1 of their
>> customers. I believe their fear is that things like Tesla powerwall
>> will take off and they won't be able to afford their current
>> lifestyle. ;-)
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:32 AM Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>
e getting a demand charge added?
*From:* Harold Bledsoe
*Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2017 5:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Agreed!
I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries.
y, February 7, 2017 10:27 AM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
>
>
>
> Sure. Supposedly the plates are a good bit thicker than even high-end
> deep cycle batteries so they can be cycled daily at the same DOD 3-5 ti
.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 10:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Those are flooded batteries not AGM, right? Kind of an apples-to-oranges
comparison. If they are in a somewhat temperature controlled environment, and
not in
.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Sure. Supposedly the plates are a good bit thicker than even high-end deep
cycle batteries so they can be
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Apologies to Eric for hijacking his thread...
It does suck and the logic is flawed. Do they charge more for folks that
switched to LED bulbs? No. Do they charge more for folks that have smaller
houses, better insulation, or choose
gt; Yeah, I would be buying batts and inverters too.
>
> *From:* Harold Bledsoe
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
> When we first did it, we had to pay a $5/mo "administrative" fe
I have 10 kW so it would be an extra $70... that sucks.
Yeah, I would be buying batts and inverters too.
From: Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
When we first did it, we had to pay a $5/mo
-kept-secret-in-renewable-energy
-Hal
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Define “last”.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe
> *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2017 6:38 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* R
Monday, February 06, 2017 5:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
> Agreed!
>
> I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Supposedly
> they will last 3-5x longer than regular deep cycle golf cart batte
Define “last”.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 6:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Agreed!
I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Supposedly
I pay 8.50/month. Flat rate.
So you are getting a demand charge added?
From: Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 5:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Agreed!
I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Suppo
Agreed!
I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Supposedly
they will last 3-5x longer than regular deep cycle golf cart batteries.
I'll let you guys know in 10-15 years.
My motivation is that my home grid tied system saves too much power so the
power company added a net mete
: Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 11:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
I thought you knew about sunelec.com? Its owner is famously eccentric...
22 cents/watt for used or grade C panels. More realistically in pallet
quantities, 35-38
2017 at 8:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Wow, 22 cents per watt solar panels. Wow wow wow.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 05, 2017 3:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
>
> Found this, sunelec.co
Anything rated in CCA (cold cranking amps) is not suitable for cyclic
solar/wind power applications. If the manufacturer hasn't clearly specified
Ah capacity in a table at 5, 10, 20 hour rates it's not designed for
repeated discharge.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
> Bewa
Beware of deep cycle marine batteries. These typically are not true deep
cycle batteries. At 50% depth of discharge, you can expect around 300
cycles (or 1 year if doing it daily). A true deep cycle battery will do
about 3x that number.
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:00 PM Keefe John wrote:
> Exide ha
Wow, 22 cents per watt solar panels. Wow wow wow.
From: Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is selling
the 106Ah version of these
Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81
http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-130136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928
On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke wrot
Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is
selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet shipping:
http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf
Outback, as far as I kno
I can across an interesting tip / option -
Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded lead
acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart
batteries in PV applications.
http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_and_Specifications_Zone15.ht
-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 7:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
I'm careful of possibly aged-on-shelf batteries as well, but our purchasing
from TelecomSurplus has been great so my
I'm careful of possibly aged-on-shelf batteries as well, but our purchasing
from TelecomSurplus has been great so my first assumption would be that
these are OK - best to contact them and ask.
On Feb 2, 2017 6:40 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote:
> Pretty suspicious of "surplus" batteries that have been
Pretty suspicious of "surplus" batteries that have been sitting around self
discharging for a long time.
Sunelec.com is selling Outback 106RE batteries (12V 100Ah) at $185 ea.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
> TelecomSurplus recently mailed:
> C&D Technologies TEL Long D
TelecomSurplus recently mailed:
C&D Technologies TEL Long Duration Series Batteries
100 Ah AGM with Front Access In Stock & Ready to Ship!
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid
> PV. Wondering if anyone has
Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid
PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for
something like the Trojan T31 or similar.
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