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> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Se
g.com>"
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 8:51 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
It'd be nice if more vendors adopted TRILL or SPB.
STP
@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:03:10 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] stp
just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol was
enabled.
we've run this switch probably four months - no real side effects - but i don't
run stp anywhere
else. any reason to leave this on?
thanks
h .." Ahhh what a POS, let me tell you what I
>> had to endure due to this POS ! ".
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <te
supports it). Certain VLAN
> error messages you can yell at Cisco.
>
> <>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On
> Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:58 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com
It’s pretty typical in the industry to have STP (in one form or another)
enabled by default for loop prevention which is one of STP’s primary uses …
blocking or forwarding
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:
>
> Why is there a trend
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
From:
"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016
> --
>
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:18:21 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] stp
>
> Why do people act like STP is some evil proprietary Cisco thing? If you
> d
amp; Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:18:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [A
messages you can yell at Cisco.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
on the access side where you might have issues with stp is if your customer
is then connecting to a cisco switch
f of Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:38:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
You veered way off into something I wasn't even talking about.
There's nothing wrong with a loop protect on an access port, but since its not
an official standard,
t;>
>>> But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t
>>> going to do anything, right?
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG
ds
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp
STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall.
On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
How can STP
Oh, loop on the same circuit...
I get it now.
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
The obvious benefit of using STP (or any flavor of it) is that it protects the
layer2 network from loops.
What is a loop... see a cat
reet
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> From: "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:06:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
> Lots
one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t going
>> to do anything, right?
>>
>> *From:* Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp
>>
>>
>> STP is a safety net. Its not doing m
:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp
STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall.
On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
How can STP being enabled help anything if you
; disable STP on uplinks.
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2016 1:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t
>>> going to do anything, right?
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh
lds
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp
>>
>>
>> STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall.
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wr
From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp
>
>
> STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall.
>
> On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrot
But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t going to do
anything, right?
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall.
On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "
:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp
>
> I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges
> are (R?) STP by default.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy,
How can STP being enabled help anything if you are not using it?
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges are
(R?) STP by default.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937
Yep.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
Or set an AP to sm mode without changing the color code which brought down 2
towers.
CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
I guess MikroTik figured out how to hack their way into STP on the
Atheros switch controllers. Coming in 6.38, you set up your slave ports
like normal, then create a bridge w/ (R)STP and add the master switch
interface as the only bridge port. We'll see if it works.
On 10/25/2016 11:10 AM,
times!
- Original Message -
*From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp
http://www.dummies.com/programming/networking/cisco/spanning-tree-
11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
http://www.dummies.com/programming/networking/cisco/spanning-tree-protocol-stp-and-portfast/
BTW, you haven’t had fun until you’ve remotely created a bridge loop and had
to drive out to unplug a cable to stop the nightmare.
From: Af
25, 2016 11:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
Why is there a trend toward this being enabled by default? was there an RFC or
something, or is it a just cause they can type of thing
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<ma
ahh - well then
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges
are (R?) STP by default.
Josh Luthman
Office
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 12:24 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
I don’t think it’s a trend. Traditionally STP was on by default. If you know
what you’re doing, you can turn it off. If
Switches are layer2 devices. Most layer2 connections in traditional network
design are access layer. Access layer is the most likely place for loops to
occur.
On Oct 25, 2016 11:18 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
wrote:
> Why is there a trend toward this being enabled by
Lol good catch :)
On Oct 25, 2016 11:07 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote:
> Actually Netonix (one t, no r). I don't know that I would leave it on, but
> I don't know how you're using it.
>
> https://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch.html
>
>
> bp
>
>
>
> On
Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges are
(R?) STP by default.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Why is there a trend toward this being enabled by default? was there an RFC
or something, or is it a just cause they can type of thing
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges
I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges
are (R?) STP by default.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> Actually Netonix (one
um, ok :)
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
Leaving it on could help.
Leaving it off could hurt.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Actually Netonix (one t, no r). I don't know that I would leave it on,
but I don't know how you're using it.
https://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch.html
bp
On 10/25/2016 9:04 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Nettonix.
You could always leave it on... If your access
Leaving it on could help.
Leaving it off could hurt.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Josh Reynolds
wrote:
> Nettonix.
>
> You could always leave it on... If your access
Nettonix.
You could always leave it on... If your access network is layer2 up to that
switch, it could help.
On Oct 25, 2016 11:03 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
wrote:
>
> just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol
> was enabled.
> we've run
just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol was
enabled.
we've run this switch probably four months - no real side effects - but i don't
run stp anywhere
else. any reason to leave this on?
thanks
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