Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
;http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Se

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Gino Villarini
g.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 8:51 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp It'd be nice if more vendors adopted TRILL or SPB. STP

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:03:10 AM Subject: [AFMUG] stp just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol was enabled. we've run this switch probably four months - no real side effects - but i don't run stp anywhere else. any reason to leave this on? thanks

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
h .." Ahhh what a POS, let me tell you what I >> had to endure due to this POS ! ". >> >> :) >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <te

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
supports it). Certain VLAN > error messages you can yell at Cisco. > >   <> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:58 PM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
It’s pretty typical in the industry to have STP (in one form or another) enabled by default for loop prevention which is one of STP’s primary uses … blocking or forwarding > On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > Why is there a trend

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Jesse DuPont
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
> -- > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:18:21 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] stp > > Why do people act like STP is some evil proprietary Cisco thing? If you > d

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
amp; Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:18:21 PM > Subject: Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
messages you can yell at Cisco. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp on the access side where you might have issues with stp is if your customer is then connecting to a cisco switch

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Carlos Alcantar
f of Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:38:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp You veered way off into something I wasn't even talking about. There's nothing wrong with a loop protect on an access port, but since its not an official standard,

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
t;> >>> But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t >>> going to do anything, right? >>> >>> *From:* Josh Reynolds >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread George Skorup
ds *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall. On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: How can STP

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Oh, loop on the same circuit... I get it now. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp The obvious benefit of using STP (or any flavor of it) is that it protects the layer2 network from loops. What is a loop... see a cat

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
reet Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:06:11 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp > Lots

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t going >> to do anything, right? >> >> *From:* Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp >> >> >> STP is a safety net. Its not doing m

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread George Skorup
:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall. On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: How can STP being enabled help anything if you

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
; disable STP on uplinks. >> >> On Oct 25, 2016 1:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t >>> going to do anything, right? >>> >>> *From:* Josh

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lds >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp >> >> >> STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall. >> >> On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wr

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp > > > STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall. > > On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrot

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Chuck McCown
But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn’t going to do anything, right? From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall. On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp > > I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges > are (R?) STP by default. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Chuck McCown
How can STP being enabled help anything if you are not using it? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges are (R?) STP by default. Josh Luthman Office: 937

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yep. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp Or set an AP to sm mode without changing the color code which brought down 2 towers. CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread George Skorup
I guess MikroTik figured out how to hack their way into STP on the Atheros switch controllers. Coming in 6.38, you set up your slave ports like normal, then create a bridge w/ (R)STP and add the master switch interface as the only bridge port. We'll see if it works. On 10/25/2016 11:10 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Jay Weekley
times! - Original Message - *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:18 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] stp http://www.dummies.com/programming/networking/cisco/spanning-tree-

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
11:18 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp http://www.dummies.com/programming/networking/cisco/spanning-tree-protocol-stp-and-portfast/ BTW, you haven’t had fun until you’ve remotely created a bridge loop and had to drive out to unplug a cable to stop the nightmare. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
25, 2016 11:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp Why is there a trend toward this being enabled by default? was there an RFC or something, or is it a just cause they can type of thing On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <ma

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
ahh - well then - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges are (R?) STP by default. Josh Luthman Office

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Gino Villarini
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 12:24 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp I don’t think it’s a trend. Traditionally STP was on by default. If you know what you’re doing, you can turn it off. If

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Switches are layer2 devices. Most layer2 connections in traditional network design are access layer. Access layer is the most likely place for loops to occur. On Oct 25, 2016 11:18 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Why is there a trend toward this being enabled by

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Lol good catch :) On Oct 25, 2016 11:07 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Actually Netonix (one t, no r). I don't know that I would leave it on, but > I don't know how you're using it. > > https://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch.html > > > bp > > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges are (R?) STP by default. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Why is there a trend toward this being enabled by default? was there an RFC or something, or is it a just cause they can type of thing On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges are (R?) STP by default. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Actually Netonix (one

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
um, ok :) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp Leaving it on could help. Leaving it off could hurt. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Bill Prince
Actually Netonix (one t, no r). I don't know that I would leave it on, but I don't know how you're using it. https://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch.html bp On 10/25/2016 9:04 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Nettonix. You could always leave it on... If your access

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Leaving it on could help. Leaving it off could hurt. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Nettonix. > > You could always leave it on... If your access

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Nettonix. You could always leave it on... If your access network is layer2 up to that switch, it could help. On Oct 25, 2016 11:03 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol > was enabled. > we've run

[AFMUG] stp

2016-10-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol was enabled. we've run this switch probably four months - no real side effects - but i don't run stp anywhere else. any reason to leave this on? thanks