However, I think that a lossless model can
reasonably derive this information by observing that p(x, x') is approximately
equal to p(x) or p(x'). In other words, knowing both x and x' does not
tell you any more than x or x' alone, or CDM(x, x') ~ 0.5. I think this is
a reasonable way to
On 8/28/06, Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does a lossless model observe that Jim is extremely fat and James continues
to be morbidly obese are approximately equal?
Actually I think I just may have invented one possible way to do that using a lossless probabilistic model in my
On 8/28/06, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An assumption of mine that can be debated perhaps in aseparate message thread, is that there should beeffectively only one AGI, allowing for a federation ofAGI's contrived to prevent war between them.
I've explained my opinion of the various AI
--- Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A serious AGI will have to end up making Google look
like those '10 PRINT
HELLO: GOTO 10' programs we used to write on our
childhood 8-bit
computers.
Agreed.
If everyone just downloads their own copy
and tweaks it
separately from everyone
On 8/28/06, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but suppose the government of China decides todownload an open source AGI and install it on one ormore of their Top 500 supercomputer facilities?
Suppose the government of China decide to get hold of CAD, simulation
software etc and install it
On 8/28/06, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I assume that you fully understand the benefits andbusiness case of an open source project, and that yourpoint is made even with the former fully considered.
Yes. For that matter, my answer would be the same if you proposed a
closed source project
On 28/08/06, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/28/06, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Google wouldn't work at all well under the GPL. Why? Because if everyone
had their own little Google, it would be quite useless [1]. The system's
usefulness comes from the fact that there is
On 28/08/06, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/28/06, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the macro AGI can't translate between differences in language or
representation that the micro AGIs have acquired from being open
source, then we probably haven't done our job
On 8/28/06, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking more long term than you. I agree in the first phase wecan't rely on it being to translate different information fromdifferent AGI. But to start with I wouldn't attempt the google killer,merely the outlook killer.
Okay, but...
We
Hi Stephen,
As a small operation independent of Cyc, distributing
your AGI system as open source is likely to be a good
strategy.
As a small university PI developing visualization
software, distributing my systems as open source turned
out to be very good for my project. Our collaborators
and
On 8/28/06, Bill Hibbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By open source distribution you are expressing optimismabout human nature, and your developer community willmostly justify that optimism. The best approach for thefew who disappoint you is to simply ignore them.
I agree. When I suggested a no
--- Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/28/06, Bill Hibbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By open source distribution you are expressing
optimism
about human nature, and your developer community
will
mostly justify that optimism. The best approach
for the
few who disappoint
On 28/08/06, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/28/06, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We may well not have enough computing resources available to do it on
the cheap using local resources. But that is the approach I am
inclined to take, I'll just wait until we do.
On 8/28/06, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Things like hooking it up to low quality sound video feeds and have itjudge by posture/_expression_/time of day what the most useful piece ofinformation in the RSS feeds/email etc to provide to the user is. Wewould have to program a large
Actually I think I just may have invented one possible way to do that
using a lossless probabilistic model in my previous email to this list.
Did you read it?
:-) I read it. I think that you have to be in a perfect world situation
for what you propose to be feasible (i.e. it requires seeing
On 28/08/06, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/28/06, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Things like hooking it up to low quality sound video feeds and have it
judge by posture/expression/time of day what the most useful piece of
information in the RSS feeds/email etc to
On 8/28/06, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Possibly I am not explaining things clearly enough. One of mymotivations for developing AI, apart from the challenge, is to enableme to get the information I need, when I need it.As a lot of the power I have in this world is through what I buy,
On 8/28/06, Mark Waser wrote:
How does a lossless model observe that Jim is extremely fat and James
continues to be morbidly obese are approximately equal?
I realize this is far beyond the capabilities of current data compression
programs, which typically predict the next byte in the
I think a 1 GB corpus is big enough to learn most of this knowledge using
statistical methods.
So we know that obese occurs in about 0.001% of all paragraphs, but in
1% of paragraphs containing fat.
OK. Now try obese and morbidly or obese and clinically. I suspect
that you are far more
I would like to hear from others with this same point
of view, and otherwise from anyone who has a idea that
an open source AGI could be somehow made safe.
While I also don't believe that you can protect your open source AGI
from what if [insert favorite bad guys] use it for nefarious
Stephen Reed wrote:
I would appreciate comments regarding additional
constraints, if any, that should be applied to a
traditional open source license to achieve a free but
safe widespread distribution of software that may lead
to AGI.
...
My personal opinion is that the best license is the
--- Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Stephen Reed wrote:
I would appreciate comments regarding additional
constraints, if any, that should be applied to a
traditional open source license to achieve a free
but
safe widespread distribution of software that may
lead
to AGI.
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