Re: [agi] What Must a World Be That a Humanlike Intelligence May Develop In It?

2009-01-12 Thread Russell Wallace
I think this sort of virtual world is an excellent idea. I agree with Benjamin Johnston's idea of a unified object model where everything consists of beads. I notice you mentioned distributing the computation. This would certainly be valuable in the long run, but for the first version I would

[agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
AGI company A2I2 has released a product for automating call center functionality, see... http://www.smartaction.com/index.html Based on reading the website here is my initial reaction Certainly, automating a higher and higher percentage of call center functionality is a worthy goal, and a place

Re: [agi] What Must a World Be That a Humanlike Intelligence May Develop In It?

2009-01-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
The problem with simulations that run slower than real time is that they aren't much good for running AIs interactively with humans... and for AGI we want the combination of social and physical interaction However, I agree that for an initial prototype implementation of bead physics that would be

[agi] fuzzy-probabilistic logic again

2009-01-12 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
I have refined my P(Z) logic a bit. Now the truth values are all unified to one type, probability distribution over Z, which has a pretty nice interpretation. The new stuff are at sections 4.4.2 and 4.4.3. http://www.geocities.com/genericai/P-Z-logic-excerpt-12-Jan-2009.pdf I'm wondering if

RE: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread John G. Rose
From: Ben Goertzel [mailto:b...@goertzel.org] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 3:42 AM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product AGI company A2I2 has released a product for automating call center functionality, see...

Re: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread Mike Tintner
Ben, Just to say many thanks for keeping us posted! Been keen to know this. And would be good to know more details. This does of course sound like something more down Steve Richfield's street - sub-AGI-assistants- a potentially v. valuable field. But not - after all that standard type of

Re: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread Richard Loosemore
Ben Goertzel wrote: AGI company A2I2 has released a product for automating call center functionality, see... http://www.smartaction.com/index.html Based on reading the website here is my initial reaction Certainly, automating a higher and higher percentage of call center functionality is a

Re: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread Bob Mottram
2009/1/12 Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org: AGI company A2I2 has released a product for automating call center functionality We value your interest in our AGI related service. If you agree that AGI can have useful applications for call centres, press 1 If our AGI repeatedly misinterprets your

Re: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote: AGI company A2I2 has released a product for automating call center functionality, see... http://www.smartaction.com/index.html It would be nice to see some transcripts of actual conversation between the system and customers to get

Re: [agi] fuzzy-probabilistic logic again

2009-01-12 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Mon, 1/12/09, YKY (Yan King Yin) generic.intellige...@gmail.com wrote: I have refined my P(Z) logic a bit. Now the truth values are all unified to one type, probability distribution over Z, which has a pretty nice interpretation. The new stuff are at sections 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.

RE: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread John G. Rose
From: Bob Mottram [mailto:fuzz...@gmail.com] 2009/1/12 Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org: AGI company A2I2 has released a product for automating call center functionality We value your interest in our AGI related service. If you agree that AGI can have useful applications for call

Re: [agi] fuzzy-probabilistic logic again

2009-01-12 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
Do you have any experimental results supporting your proposed probabilistic fuzzy logic implementation? How would you devise such an experiment (for example, a prediction task) to test alternative interpretations of logical operators like AND, OR, NOT, IF-THEN, etc? Maybe you could manually

Re: [agi] fuzzy-probabilistic logic again

2009-01-12 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
(Also, instead of a disclaimer about political correctness, couldn't you just find examples that don't reveal your obsession with sex?) OK, I've eliminated one instance. http://www.geocities.com/genericai/P-Z-logic-excerpt-12-Jan-2009.pdf There are still 2 mentions of sex, I'll eliminate

Re: [agi] fuzzy-probabilistic logic again

2009-01-12 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM, YKY (Yan King Yin) generic.intellige...@gmail.com wrote: I have refined my P(Z) logic a bit. Now the truth values are all unified to one type, probability distribution over Z, which has a pretty nice interpretation. The new stuff are at sections 4.4.2 and

Re: [agi] initial reaction to A2I2's call center product

2009-01-12 Thread Lukasz Kaiser
If our AGI repeatedly misinterprets your speech, because it was trained on an Australian accent where all statements actually sound like questions, press 2 They use the speech recognition engine from nuance, and as far as I can remember, recognition and support for regional accents is one of

Re: [agi] What Must a World Be That a Humanlike Intelligence May Develop In It?

2009-01-12 Thread Benjamin Johnston
I think this sort of virtual world is an excellent idea. I agree with Benjamin Johnston's idea of a unified object model where everything consists of beads. I notice you mentioned distributing the computation. This would certainly be valuable in the long run, but for the first version I would

Re: [agi] What Must a World Be That a Humanlike Intelligence May Develop In It?

2009-01-12 Thread Russell Wallace
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Benjamin Johnston johns...@it.uts.edu.au wrote: Actually, I think it would be easier, more useful and more portable to distribute the computation rather than trying to make it to run on a GPU. If it would be easier, fair enough; I've never programmed a GPU, I

Re: [agi] fuzzy-probabilistic logic again

2009-01-12 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Vladimir Nesov robot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more interested in understanding the relationship between inference system and environment (rules of the game) that it allows to reason about, Next thing I'll work on is the planning module. That's where the AGI