I've actually got a pretty solid grasp on the underpinnings of this
stuff, Terren. I was agreeing with you: memory formation via gene
modification may be only endemic. Probably not all or the reproductive
cells have their nuclei written to by every, or any, given stimulus.
Yet, there are arguments
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton wrote:
> I don't know how you derived the value 10^4, Matt, but that seems
> reasonable to me. Terren, let me go back to the article and try to
> understand what exactly it says is happening. Certainly that's my
> editorial's crux
A simulation of a neural networ
nothing to help your cause,
either... and that's coming from someone who believes that psychedelics can be
valuable, if used properly.
Terren
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton wrote:
> From: Eric Burton
> Subject: Re: FW: [agi] Lamarck Lives!(?)
> To: agi@v2.listbox.com
>
Ok.
>"We think we're seeing short-term memories forming in the hippocampus and
>slowly turning into
>long-term memories in the cortex," says Miller, who presented the results last
>week at the Society
>for Neuroscience meeting in Washington DC.
It certainly sounds like the genetic changes are l
I don't know how you derived the value 10^4, Matt, but that seems
reasonable to me. Terren, let me go back to the article and try to
understand what exactly it says is happening. Certainly that's my
editorial's crux
On 12/11/08, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton wrote:
>
>>
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton wrote:
> I don't think that each inheritor receives a full set of the
> original's memories. But there may have *evolved* in spite of the
> obvious barriers, a means of transferring primary or significant
> experience from one organism to another in genetic form.
of intelligence. So talk specifically and technically
about *mechanisms* (even if extremely unlikely) and you're not wasting anyone's
time.
Terren
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton wrote:
> From: Eric Burton
> Subject: Re: FW: [agi] Lamarck Lives!(?)
> To: agi@v2.listbox.com
I don't think that each inheritor receives a full set of the
original's memories. But there may have *evolved* in spite of the
obvious barriers, a means of transferring primary or significant
experience from one organism to another in genetic form... we can
imagine such a thing given this news!
On
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton wrote:
> You can see though how genetic memory encoding opens the door to
> acquired phenotype changes over an organism's life, though, and those
> could become communicable. I think Lysenko was onto something like
> this. Let us hope all those Soviet farmers wou
You can see though how genetic memory encoding opens the door to
acquired phenotype changes over an organism's life, though, and those
could become communicable. I think Lysenko was onto something like
this. Let us hope all those Soviet farmers wouldn't have just starved!
;3
On 12/11/08, Matt Maho
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Eric Burton wrote:
> It's all a big vindication for genetic memory, that's for certain. I
> was comfortable with the notion of certain templates, archetypes,
> being handed down as aspects of brain design via natural selection,
> but this really clears the way for organisms'
by Oswald
Steward or 2) activity causes a specific synapse to be 'tagged' so that
newly synthesized proteins in the cell body are targeted specifically to the
tagged synapses."
Terren
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Ed Porter wrote:
From: Ed Porter
Subject: FW: [agi] Lamarck Lives!(?)
To:
ynapses (see papers published by Oswald
> Steward or 2) activity causes a specific synapse to be 'tagged' so that
> newly synthesized proteins in the cell body are targeted specifically to the
> tagged synapses."
>
> Terren
>
> --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Ed
Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: [agi] Lamarck Lives!(?)
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 10:32 AM
I
To save you the trouble the most relevant
language from the below cited article is
“Whi
the memory trace is still there, but the animal cannot retrieve
it due to damage to neural circuits," she adds. "
-Original Message-
From: Ed Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:28 AM
To: 'agi@v2.listbox.com'
Subject: FW: [agi] L
An article related to how changes in the epigenonme could affect learning
and memory (the subject which started this thread a week ago)
http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/21801/
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