Re: DIS: recordkeeping

2016-06-20 Thread Nich Del
Here's the beginning of a gollum wiki: https://github.com/nichdel/agorawiki If you want to look at it now, you can run gollum on your localhost. In the next couple days I'll look into hosting it on my personal server, it seems lightweight enough to be no burden.

Re: DIS: recordkeeping

2016-06-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Nich Del wrote: > Forgot to add: I'd be happy to start collecting the most recent versions of > reports in a git to get the ball rolling on this. Was there a structure in > mind besides a single folder with each report as its own markdown file? Whatever is support

Re: DIS: recordkeeping

2016-06-20 Thread Nich Del
Forgot to add: I'd be happy to start collecting the most recent versions of reports in a git to get the ball rolling on this. Was there a structure in mind besides a single folder with each report as its own markdown file? On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Nich Del wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 a

Re: DIS: recordkeeping

2016-06-20 Thread Nich Del
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 7:35 PM, omd wrote: > > I suppose we could also require occasionally republishing wiki reports > to a public forum, but I don't think it's necessary. > I think publishing regularly on the forum would be good because 1) it means players don't have to check the wiki if they

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Nich Del wrote: > I also don't know who manages what, wrt the site and the lists, but if we > could use one of the three existing lists (agora-official?) with the new > software that would make the transfer that much less painful. Both the site and the lists (Mail

DIS: recordkeeping

2016-06-20 Thread omd
I alluded to this in my original post, but let me elaborate. I've never really liked the "weekly ASCII email report" paradigm, for a few reasons: - In practice, a week is often too long to wait to be updated on the latest state, so officeholders often maintain a continually updated web copy on th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Nich Del
I'm pretty much 100% on board with either HyperKitty or GroupServer. As for a redesign of the home page, if possible, I'd like it to: 1) Show whichever forum system we switch to, so prospective players can actually see what play looks like without switching between three pages or subscribing. 2) L

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Sprocklem wrote: > Adding reddit will mean one of two things: either I need to remember to > check the Agora subreddit regularly (whereas with email, I am notified > of new messages by my email client), or people will be required to send > a link to (important) red

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Nich Del wrote: > Oh, I should also add my concerns for the non-transparency of deleted and > edited comments. Could complicate > record-keeping and/or allow all sorts of trickery. > Especially with the popularity of scripts that overwrite a users' entire > history when t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Nich Del
Oh, I should also add my concerns for the non-transparency of deleted and edited comments. Could complicate record-keeping and/or allow all sorts of trickery. Especially with the popularity of scripts that overwrite a users' entire history when they wish to leave the site (ex: https://greasyfork.or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Nich Del
I'm still catching up on this discussion because apparently the last week of discussion went to my spam folder, but on the topic of reddit for nomic: I ran a game on https://www.reddit.com/r/nommit for some time. We eventually tried to move to a wikia before falling apart due to few players, but I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Sprocklem
On 2016-06-20 15:30, I wrote: > A quick google search shows that there is a currently active Nomic on > reddit, which may be worth looking at, if only to see how the filtering > is dealt with: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheNomic/. Actually looking at it, it doesn't seem particularly active, so it mi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 2016-06-20 15:20, Brian Greer wrote: > Makes more sense to start a new Nomic there rather than try to migrate > Agora there. As pointed out below, the way it naturally filters would > represent a very different culture. I’m curious how that might develop > from the ground up with something f

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Sprocklem
On 2016-06-20 15:20, Brian Greer wrote: > Makes more sense to start a new Nomic there rather than try to migrate > Agora there. As pointed out below, the way it naturally filters would > represent a very different culture. I’m curious how that might develop > from the ground up with something fre

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Brian Greer
Makes more sense to start a new Nomic there rather than try to migrate Agora there. As pointed out below, the way it naturally filters would represent a very different culture. I’m curious how that might develop from the ground up with something fresh. > On Jun 20, 2016, at 17:14, Sprocklem wr

DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Sprocklem
On 2016-06-20 11:41, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Please do not object, but merely ping/say hi/raise your hand in a > public message to not be included in said deregistration. I'd like to stay. Later, e write: > What are the pros/cons of starting by using a Reddit sub as a > straightforward additional

DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Brian Greer
I would rather not be deregistered at this time. > On Jun 20, 2016, at 13:41, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > (on my "I'm going to do this ... any day now" list): > > I announce my intent to act Without Objection, to deregister each and > every Player who is in a state of having not sent a messag

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Future of Agora

2016-06-20 Thread Weslet Sonheim
I started watching just at the time that the drop off occurred. My plan was to lurk for a while before plunging into the scary culture-water. Ironically, this (possible) revival is starting up just as I'm about to be unable to watch/participate in it for a while. -gp > On Jun 20, 2016, at 4

DIS: Re: BUS: Future of Agora

2016-06-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016, omd wrote: > We have to use methods that will let us reach a large audience of potentially > interested people, not just rely on word of mouth, which will never > work very well in our player count range.  IIRC, at least one of Agora’s big > bursts came after getting linke

DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Jack Henahan
I’ve only been following for a little while, and I'd like to stay, please. > On Jun 20, 2016, at 13:41, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > (on my "I'm going to do this ... any day now" list): > > I announce my intent to act Without Objection, to deregister each and > every Player who is in a state

DIS: Re: BUS: might as well try for a show of hands

2016-06-20 Thread Gaelan Bright Steele
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DIS: Re: BUS: Future of Agora

2016-06-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016, omd wrote: > Does there ever come a time to call a game over, to put Agora out of its > misery? When there's a committed amount of Officers/GMs/a Speaker (or whatever) it works, regardless (almost) of complexity of rules. When there's not, it doesn't matter how simple t

DIS: Re: BUS: Future of Agora

2016-06-20 Thread Noé Rubinstein
FYI, the email arrived in the spam folder of my GMail account :( As for actually reviving Agora, I'm in the category of players who joined the game once or twice, but ended up doing nothing, and I do not really have a suggestion on what to do from here. If there was such a plan to revive Agora, I