I'll add that in the morning when I also correct some typos (already turned off
the computer).
Original message From: Owen Jacobson Date:
5/2/17 00:08 (GMT-06:00) To: Agora Nomic - Discussion
Subject: DIS: Re: BUS:
On Tue, 2 May 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
> Immediately afterward, for each report published last month (in
> chronological order of publication), Agora SHALL pay the
> publisher of the report the Report Rate for the office the report
> is associated with unless paying the
> On May 2, 2017, at 1:01 AM, Nic Evans wrote:
>
> I submit the following proposal.
>
> Title: Granular Paydays
> Adoption Index: 1
> Author: nichdel
> Co-author(s): Aris
>
> Flip the Payrate of every office to 2.
>
> Amend rule 2484 (Payday) to read, in full:
>
>
Given the shape of the scam ais523 claims to be perpetrating, submitting this
just now might be premature. Therefore, for consideration:
Proposal: Pend Tickets (revision 2)
Adoption index: 3
Authors: o
Co-authors: G., Aris
Enact a new rule, "Pend Tickets", with power 1, with the text:
A
I, too, am opposed to any sort of pay cut for the Rulekeepor.
-o
> On May 1, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Quazie wrote:
>
> I am opposed to killing the rulekeepor - that role requires a bit of
> infrastructure and seems like it deserves to be an office. I defer to G.
> though in
I’m going to rearrange ais523’s words, a little:
On May 1, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> The conclusions I draw from this are that I can't let anyone know how
> the scam works until the relevant parts of the ruleset were fixed. I
> was originally planning to do
Not a claim of error, yet, since I _think_ it’s inconsequential, but my weekly
report presumed you had paid those 4 Shinies on the date of your message to the
wrong forum because I missed that it was to -discussion.
Does anyone feel strongly that this is worth correcting? Effective the
On May 1, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Rouillard
wrote:
> If I'm not a player, I register.
>
> ~ Roujo
Welcome back!
You should designate someone to receive your Shinies - possibly yourself, I
think? - before I get around to distributing them for you. It doesn’t
On May 1, 2017, at 10:15 PM, Nic Evans wrote:
> [A GPG-signed message]
Where can I find your public key?
-o
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There's probably no harm in doing all since shinies aren't
super-important right now and most people have a surplus anyway, but it
is worth discussing. The way I see it there's two main possibilities:
-Apply a solid payrate to every office and then a separate payment for
each report. Best for
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Nic Evans wrote:
> A potential compromise: Lower the payrate for all offices and add a separate
> payment for reports published, paid to the player who published it. An
> unproductive officeholder would get some but not much, a productive one
>
On 05/01/17 19:24, Aris Merchant wrote:
> I disagree. The point of offices is that in least in theory they
> provide consistency. The fact that they haven't been doing that lately
> means that we may need to change the incentive system, for instance by
> penalizing tardy officers, or **by
I still officially consider this proposal not to exist, its submission
having been overly ambiguous.
-Aris
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:47 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> TTttPF
>
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 28,
It doesn't, but you can't force through a proposal that hasn't been
distributed. Also, why does everyone seem to have such a low opinion of my
civic mindedness? I don't even want to be a dictator at the moment.
-Aris
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:53 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
Could you explain why this closes the loophole because I see no way in
which this affects one's ability to force a proposal through?
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-05-01 at 00:37 +0100, Alex Smith
I concur with both Quazie and Aris.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Aris Merchant
wrote:
> I disagree. The point of offices is that in least in theory they provide
> consistency. The fact that they haven't been doing that
I disagree. The point of offices is that in least in theory they provide
consistency. The fact that they haven't been doing that lately means that
we may need to change the incentive system, for instance by penalizing
tardy officers, or by creating a direct reward for deputization. It doesn't
mean
I am opposed to killing the rulekeepor - that role requires a bit of
infrastructure and seems like it deserves to be an office. I defer to G.
though in case I'm incorrect on my assumption.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 17:08 Nic Evans wrote:
> I'm considering a more expansive take on
I'm considering a more expansive take on Gigs, where several
report-based offices would be turned entirely into Gigs.
Here's my specific thoughts, which I wanted to share for feedback before
working on the proposal:
-Create Weekly and Monthly Gigs which get paid somewhere around 2-5 shinies.
I'm really interested in this idea, so I'm willing to pick it up.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> If anyone wants to go ahead with the next version of the Gig Economy draft,
> go for it. I'm not following current economic proposals enough to
If anyone wants to go ahead with the next version of the Gig Economy draft,
go for it. I'm not following current economic proposals enough to make sure
the mechanics behind it are in sync with the evolving new system.
I will investigate that change before pending the proposal.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>> Persons wanting a degree MUST request
>> a mentor
I appreciate it, but I did place the updated values in my report.
-Aris
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Nicholas Evans wrote:
> The rules don't specify that anyone needs to announce (until the Promotor's
> next report, at least). They probably should.
>
> The new Pending
For the monthly stipend that applies to players, it's all or nothing. If
there's any money in Agora's balance, everyone gets paid; if there isn't
any, nobody gets paid. Offices, on the other hand, are calculated
individually and can't get paid when there is or would be a non-positive
balance.
I thought we agreed last time that you can't pay in such a way that agora's
balance becomes negative?
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:02 AM Owen Jacobson wrote:
> Date of this payday: Mon 1 May, 2017
> Date of last payday: Sat 1 Apr, 2017
>
>
> As Secretary, it is my pleasure to
On Mon, 1 May 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> ENDORSE ais523, if e votes; otherwise, PRESENT.
Just for the record/for new players, PRESENT is already the default
of conditional votes/endorsement if the conditional can't be resolved
(e.g. if the endorsed player doesn't vote).
On Mon, 1 May 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> wrote:
> > I hereby request TWO consent to deputize for the Herald and award
> > Murphy the patent title, Dean-Continous of Agora, for being the
>
On Mon, 1 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> Persons wanting a degree MUST request
> a mentor from the Herald before having made substantial progress on
> eir thesis.
I really don't like the way this reads as a punishable requirement.
I have a half-finished thesis. Were this
You can always reregister.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Jonathan Rouillard
wrote:
> Ah darn, just as I was catching up on things. >_>
>
> I'm surprised it hadn't happened earlier honestly. Oh well.
>
> ~ Roujo
>
> On Mon, May
Thank you.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Jonathan Rouillard
wrote:
> "The mentor" instead of "The menter", presumably.
>
> ~ Roujo
>
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017, 18:45 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>
Ah darn, just as I was catching up on things. >_>
I'm surprised it hadn't happened earlier honestly. Oh well.
~ Roujo
On Mon, May 1, 2017, 18:51 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> As per my previously stated intent, I hereby act as Registrar to
"The mentor" instead of "The menter", presumably.
~ Roujo
On Mon, May 1, 2017, 18:45 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> What should that say?
>
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:22 AM, Owen Jacobson
What should that say?
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:22 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
>> The menter SHOULD
>
> In addition to the adoption index issue already raised, you’ve got a typo
> here.
>
> Otherwise, this looks good!
>
> -o
>
Oh, sorry about this. I said I'd finish my opinion this weekend,
didn't I? I'll try to get it out fairly soon, although I'm not sure
exactly when I have time... Would it violate tradition to informally
announce my decision before I had my argument's ready?
-Aris
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 11:12 PM,
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