Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Prime Minister) petition to Certiorari

2024-07-24 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Ah, what fortune! I'm ecstatic that we are of the same opinion. Therefore, if you wanted to make a MOTION OF NO CONFIFENCE, due to the PM refusing to do any job at all, you have my full support! Currently, I believe I've already extended my own argument against the PM a bit, so I'd rather avoid

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-24 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
ion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 21:36 -0700, 4st nomic via agora-discussion > wrote: > > So, "an action ordinarily reserved for an office-holder as if e held > > the > > office" > > is duty. > > > > Items 1,2,3,5, by s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 9:15 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/24/24 00:13, 4st nomic wrote: > > Sure, but duty is not the term used in the deputisation rule. > > > What I'm calling the "duty" is the requirement to perform the action > referred to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Sure, but duty is not the term used in the deputisation rule. On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 9:11 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/24/24 00:08, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'm confused. What do you mean? > > > &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@ADoP, @Tailor) Bad Prime Minister! BAD!

2024-07-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I'm confused. What do you mean? 2) It would be POSSIBLE for the deputy to perform the action, other than by deputisation, if e held the office. You said it was not possible to appoint snail to Speaker. 5) A time limit by which the rules require the action to be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 9134-9141

2024-07-14 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Fwiw, Imo, that doesn't change anything other than how the rulekeepor reports it and anything else, the single amendment has two parts one of which applies and appends something and another which also applies yet changes nothing because the language is not found to replace. -- 4st putting jesters

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 9134-9141

2024-07-13 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
For the purposes of the geologist, has the rule been amended with no changes, or no amendment made at all? -- Forwarded message - From: Janet Cobb via agora-official Date: Sat, Jul 13, 2024, 2:28 PM Subject: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 9134-9141 To: Agora

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [MAD HATTER] kinda-report

2024-07-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
The green eyeshades are powerful in this one... On Wed, Jul 10, 2024, 6:21 AM juan via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-official [2024-07-09 11:28]: > > The information provided below is an estimation. Remember, you are the > one > > who is actually

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Thesis review (@snail, @Janet, @kiako)

2024-07-09 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
NOMINATE FOR associates in nomic art Overall, it references agoran history, rhymes, seems to keep 10 syllables per line, and has good timing. I'm not sure it follows any meter though, especially because of the commas on the first line seem to indicate a different stress pattern. I don't really

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Victory by Quickdraw

2024-06-27 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
In my defense, I have not read the rules, and snail was the only one who asked. I figured it could not hurt because j don't know how to bang On Fri, Jun 28, 2024, 5:45 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2024-06-27 at 21:34 -0500, secretsnail9 via

DIS: Geologist apology

2024-06-18 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Report's gonna be really late. I get back from a trip July 5th ish. Blot me or deputize, but I fully intend to do the report if it isn't done after I get back. Just giving y'all a heads up. 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] SLR

2024-06-07 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Because you can publish anything public to off, but it's discouraged. I once published a mad hatters report and got dinged heavily for that x) On Fri, Jun 7, 2024, 3:41 PM Matt Smyth via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Then why does it say OFF: at the start of the

DIS: Re: OFF: [rulekeepor] SLR, FLR, ACORN are forthcoming...

2024-06-07 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Note: this failed. The reports therefore aren't official. It's probably fine, better than nothing, and easier when Janet gers back or the next person bc the ruleset repo was updated. On Fri, Jun 7, 2024, 3:13 PM 4st nomic via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I temporarily

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] SLR

2024-06-07 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
No, the report isn't official in any way, that's all that means methinks On Fri, Jun 7, 2024, 3:32 PM Matt Smyth via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Wait, 4st! I remember Janet telling me that I couldn't deputise as > Rulekeepor because she's on vacation, so there's

Re: DIS: (Idea) agoran science pt 2

2024-06-04 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
stamps Maybe stamps just need to have voting power associated Maybe I just need to be the change I Vanna see in ze would... hmm okie maybe I shouldn't be Agora for now but I'll look back on this fondly On Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 7:54 PM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.

DIS: (Idea) agoran science pt 2

2024-06-04 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
What if there was an office that accepted inquiries, then, a bounty is assigned to an inquiry based on a social agreement, which, the bounty can only be granted by fulfilling that agreement? EG bounty is "what would valid non-numerical assets look like in Agora?" It goes to auction: and the

DIS: Re: BUS: Mick Jagger (@stonemason)

2024-06-03 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:22 PM Paul McDowell via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I pay a fee of 7 spendies to transfer the minty stone to myself. > > I wield the minty stone, specifying myself. > > — literallyAmbiguous I think this doesn't work because the Minty Stone

DIS: Re: BUS: Geology nonsense

2024-05-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
As the Geologist, I object! Stones have nothing to do with the Geologist, I'll have none of it. /j This is the exerpt from the last stonemason's report, from the 26th of May. I believe "the beginning of the week" has since decreased these costs by 1, but also, if a stone was transferred, it gets

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Experimenting with Regulations

2024-05-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Right. However, the proposal gives some rule defined parameters for the operation of crystals, leaving the exact details to regulations. Eg "crystals increase in size when rules are amended or repealed" does not specify precisely how or how much, leaving those details to the regulation. On Sun,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9114-9119

2024-05-25 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
sorry Juniper, this was to DIS, make sure you send votes to BUS On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 6:42 PM Matt Smyth via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote as follows: > > > > > > 9114~ snail 2.0 Grind Stone > > > FOR > > > > > > > > > > 9115~ snail

Re: DIS: Proto: Hats

2024-05-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
This is not the first time I've seen this. Clearly let's make this stick this time peeps!! On Thu, May 23, 2024, 4:49 PM Mischief via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Proto-proposal ("Hats" AI=1): > > [The idea here is to have a playful mechanism that also serves as

DIS: Re: (@Geologist) Re: BUS: [Geologist] Healing Crystals and You: Speedrun Walkthru Guide

2024-05-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
it appears that I just don't want this thing to ratify! Wowie! Thanks for catching that; you should have Crystal 2618 should you need to trade it or anything. On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 8:16 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2024-05-20 at 19:37 -0700,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] The Blotter (and a history lesson @Mischief)

2024-05-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
1 Spendie per ribbon time??! On Mon, May 20, 2024, 7:20 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2024-05-19 at 15:09 -0700, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion > wrote: > > ais523 wrote: > > > > > particular, if a contract would be given a Rest (the

DIS: Re: BUS: Bowing to the Inevitable (attn Registrar, Spendor, Collector)

2024-05-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:49 PM Joshua Boehme via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > I register as a player > > In the past I went by Elysion, but that nickname feels like it belongs to > another era. This time I'll go by Mischief, and for ease I'll be using >

DIS: (Idea) Agoran Science, Education, and Recreation Advancement

2024-05-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Something like "The herald CAN award, with 3 support, a player spendies/patent title/new ribbon. The herald SHOULD only do this for significant involvement in Thesis Drafting, Thesis Review, and/or Tournament Conductation." To incentivize the production of tournaments (to conduct science LIVE),

DIS: Re: BUS: No apathy

2024-05-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I'm not trying to do anything meritorious, I'm just trying to be annoying. :D On Wed, May 15, 2024, 3:13 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Since we have a player named "apathy" now, > > I object to each intent to perform an action described in Rule

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder for Proposals 9102-9110

2024-05-06 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I would also like to help humiliate the so named. :P On Mon, May 6, 2024, 8:01 PM Janet Cobb via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > For each of Proposals 9102-9110, I hereby publish a humiliating public > reminder naming the following slackers: > > Gaelan, cuddlybanana,

DIS: Winpalooza

2024-05-06 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
So ais523 has basically won 3 times, paradox, stones, and radiance, pretty much in a row. Just would like to point that out.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJs 4075 and 4076

2024-04-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
iscussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2024-04-30 at 09:52 -0700, 4st nomic via agora-discussion > wrote: > > I object. > > Per Rule 2576 "Ownership", the asset goes into abeyance as soon as the > > owner is ambiguous. > > The owner becomes ambi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJs 4075 and 4076

2024-04-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 10:03 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/30/24 11:52, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > I object. > > Per Rule 2576 "Ownership", the asset goes into abeyance as soon as the > > owner is ambiguous. > > The owner becomes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJs 4075 and 4076

2024-04-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 9:52 AM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I object. > Per Rule 2576 "Ownership", the asset goes into abeyance as soon as the > owner is ambiguous. > The owner becomes ambiguous at step 2, wherein we are n

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJs 4075 and 4076

2024-04-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I object. Per Rule 2576 "Ownership", the asset goes into abeyance as soon as the owner is ambiguous. The owner becomes ambiguous at step 2, wherein we are not sure if ais523 can take the asset due to the ensuing contradiction. Therefore, both CFJs should be FALSE, as neither party can cash a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9087-9095

2024-04-18 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think crystal poaching is fine: it's competitive teamwork! I've poached Janet for example. Perhaps coauthors need to be rewarded also? On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 11:01 PM secretsnail9 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > 9094~ snail, R. Lee 1.0 More

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deregistration attempts

2024-04-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Deregistering players, fine But insisting on being a player but not doing much is a little confusing to me On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 6:22 AM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2024-04-15 21:57]: > > I'm confused abou

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deregistration attempts

2024-04-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I'm confused about the reasoning behind doing this...? On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 1:17 PM Rose Strong via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I activate myself. > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 4:03 PM juan wrote: > > > As per rule 2646, for each of the following players, who have been

Re: DIS: Recruiting Github Group Owners

2024-04-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Uh I'm not a player currently but it couldn't hurt? fjsweeney On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 9:13 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/9/24 12:27, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > As you might know, we have a Github Group. Some of the officers use it > > to

DIS: Re: BUS: Cleaning R2578

2024-04-08 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I object on secondary grounds that rule 2578 "currencies" does not contain "entities" On Mon, Apr 8, 2024, 3:43 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 4/8/24 14:52, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > I intend, without object, to clean Rule 2578 by

DIS: Re: BUS: Cleaning R2578

2024-04-08 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I object The possessive and the plural are not typos On Mon, Apr 8, 2024, 11:52 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I intend, without object, to clean Rule 2578 by replacing the sole > instance of "entities" with "entity's". > > -- > Janet Cobb > >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Infraction Reaction

2024-04-08 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 8, 2024, at 3:22 PM, juan via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2024-04-05 19:16]: > >

DIS: Re: [CFJ] Re: BUS: (@Notary, Arbitor) A Broken Promise

2024-04-07 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think it's reasonable for Kate's version of events. After all, how is this that different from any other ship of theseus, just with actions instead of values. On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 12:33 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2024-04-07 at 19:18 +0100,

DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Infraction Reaction

2024-04-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
What does take complete control of Agora mean? Is any statement that is simply "not true" sufficient? Overall I find this to be unsavory. On Fri, Apr 5, 2024, 1:46 PM ais523 via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2024-04-01 at 21:44 +0100, Gaelan Steele via

Re: DIS: Thesis Reviewers Needed!

2024-03-28 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
If a coding-based nomic spawns in the Agoran Discord Realm, will you be sure to notify list please? :) On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 1:02 PM Kiako via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Hi all! > > I've had a thesis in the works for a while now regarding an > implementation of

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: yes, yes, I got the memo

2024-03-25 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Huh. You cannot officially require the referee to investigate a non-player via noting. On Mon, Mar 25, 2024, 12:14 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I create the following proposal: > > --- > Title: yes, yes, I got the memo > Author: Gaelan > AI: 1.7 >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Geologist] Weekly Report

2024-03-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
CoE: I destroyed the crystals in L On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 10:58 AM Sarah S. via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I deputise for the vacant office of Geologist and file the below weekly > report. > > All instability switches are 0 except where otherwise noted. Crystal >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Reconsidering 4069

2024-03-17 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Ah. Then yes, I'd definitely refile the case. On Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 10:38 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/18/24 01:14, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 3/17/24 22:14, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > >&

DIS: Re: BUS: Reconsidering 4069

2024-03-17 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
What evidence do you have that rule numbers and Id numbers are the same? Because arguing that this case is false has definitive disastrous effects, so is there another way to judge this case outside of those two options? On Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 6:52 PM Aris via agora-business <

Re: DIS: (@Janet) Re: BUS: [Arbitor] Judgment Reminder @Kate @Janet @Murphy @Gaelan

2024-03-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
quotes from discord 1. 1:24 PM]Janet: damn you mobile gmail 2. [1:24 PM]4ˢᵗ: i was wondering about the blank message 3. [1:25 PM]Janet: I assume what's happening is it's only sending as HTML, which is being stripped On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 1:30 PM ais523 via

Re: DIS: [draft] CFJ 4069 Judgement

2024-03-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 9:53 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/14/24 17:46, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > PLEASE NOTE, unfortunately, no mechanism is actually provided for the > > Rulekeepor to officially as

DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] Judgment Reminder @Kate @Janet @Murphy @Gaelan

2024-03-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
typo: 4059 is assigned to murphy, 4069 is assigned to me On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:45 AM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > The Arbitor's office kindly asks the following judges to either assign a > judgment, recuse, or file for extension for the corresponding

Re: DIS: [draft] CFJ 4069 Judgement

2024-03-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
et post P8914) would be unable to ratify at all, as TRWC105T would exist in that ruleset. Fortunately, I don't think that is in the scope of this judgement, as ID numbers and Rule numbers appear to be different. On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:47 PM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@a

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Birthday Announcement

2024-03-14 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:48 PM juan via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > === > Registrar: juan Birthday Announcement > 2024-03-14 > >

DIS: [draft] CFJ 4069 Judgement

2024-03-14 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
READY FOR A (small) ROLLERCOASTER?!?! Statement to judge: "There exists a rule 105." Short context for this: "Rule number" 105 was repealed and reenacted in 2007, and in 2020, rules were required to have unique "ID numbers". SIGNIFICANTLY, the number assigned to that Rule 105 was not an "ID

DIS: Re: Assignment of CFJ 4069 to 4st [Re: BUS: Overly Effective Identity Theft Protection, Or, Is There A Rule 105]

2024-03-14 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 3:53 PM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/11/24 17:41, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: > > CFJ: There exists a rule 105. > > I number this CFJ 4069. I assign CFJ 4069 to 4st. > > -- > nix > > Also, I do plan to still judge this,

Re: DIS: Request for Feedback: What's the Method Anyway?

2024-03-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 3:49 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > This is related to CFJ 4072, but you don't need to be familiar with all > of the arguments there. > > I just want everyone's reading on one (crucial) element. R105 requires > an "unambiguous and

DIS: Re: (@arbitor, @referee) Re: BUS: A lie

2024-03-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 11:29 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 3/12/24 03:51, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > > >> On Mar 12, 2024, at 2:46 AM, secretsnail9 via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> > >> I confirm,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Covering bases

2024-03-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:47 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2024-03-05 at 14:36 -0600, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 3/5/24 14:24, Rowan Evans via agora-business wrote: > > > After that: If I have granted myself a welcome package 52

Re: DIS: ranting about potential ruleset issue

2024-02-19 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:51 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2024-02-19 at 10:43 -0800, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > fwiw, I plan to vote AGAINST any attempt to ratify the ruleset as the > > ruleset is curren

DIS: ranting about potential ruleset issue

2024-02-19 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
fwiw, I plan to vote AGAINST any attempt to ratify the ruleset as the ruleset is currently as if we had been playing "correctly" this whole time. As it currently stands, a vote FOR would be a vote to maintain the status quo that got the ruleset into its current predicament. The status quo is very

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) No Taxation Without Representation

2024-02-15 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:44 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2/15/24 12:41, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal: > > { > > Title: No Taxation Without Representation > > Adoption Index: 2.0 > > Author: 4st > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9053-9057 [attn. Arbitor]

2024-02-14 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Counterarguments/Gratuitous arguments TRUE: > 1. Does text specify a rule change? > 2. If so, is it unambiguous what the text of the rule to be enacted is? > As to 1, the text makes no mention of a "rule", only "enact[ing]" > something. There is at least one thing other than a rule that can be >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Registrar) Intents to deactivate

2024-01-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think you have to send a message on a public forum to negate it. Nothing in particular is needed in the message, just has to be on a public fora. On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 12:34 PM Kiako via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/30/2024 5:28 PM, secretsnail9 via

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9053-9057

2024-01-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:24 PM Maloney Agora via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote FOR 9054, 9055, and 9057. > I vote AGAINST 9053 and 9056. > I think this needs to be sent to agora-business? (yes the default "reply" option changes replies to agora-discussion)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9053-9057

2024-01-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:03 PM Jimmy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote FOR 9053 > I think this needs to be sent to agora-business? (yes the default "reply" option changes replies to agora-discussion) -- 4ˢᵗ Uncertified Bad Idea Generator

Re: DIS: Re: Intent to register

2024-01-28 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Yep you did just fine, welcoming is fast and loose; I just recommended players grant themselves welcome packages to have them use various rules from the get go. It didn't have to go to Agora business even :) On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 3:28 PM Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion <

Re: DIS: (@Promotor) Spreadsheet votes

2024-01-24 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
The spreadsheet is not actually used by the current Assessor (janet). I think it's appreciated to update it tho. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 4:12 PM Mercury via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I notice most players who voted recently haven't recorded eir votes in the >

DIS: Re: BUS: New Player Registration

2024-01-24 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Welcome! I recommend that you grant yourself a welcome package (that's effectively a stamp of your own type!) On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 3:52 PM Maloney Agora via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > My name is Maloney (he/him), and I would like to register to be a player. >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Geologist] shiny stuff

2024-01-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Just poking fun :) my reports were late which is the problem, despite their dependency. Didn't mean to chew you out at all! On Mon, Jan 22, 2024, 9:08 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/22/24 12:01, 4st nomic via agora-official wrote: > >

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election update

2024-01-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
> > Prime Minister: Jimmy wins > "Jimmy, I demand to see some reductions in taxes!!! You have 1 week. Then... I will exercise my powers of Motion of No Confidence!!!" -- 4ˢᵗ Uncertified Bad Idea Generator

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Dream Keeper, @Absurdor)

2024-01-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I have checked out wow I forgot you are a new player who should nominate emaelf for PM also! Woe On Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 9:02 PM Agora amdw42 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I push the boulder and dream of wealth > > —— > Ben >

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering as player

2024-01-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 4:26 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Jan 10, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Mercury via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > Sorry for previous empty email, I hope it works this time > > Attempting to

DIS: (draft) Emergent Gameplay?

2023-12-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
(Inspired somewhat by https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg43941.html but trying to tone it down to essentials for emergence of complex gameplay from simple rules) { The Knip is an ordered list of players. Morpts are a fungible asset. The Qander is a singleton integer

Re: DIS: Proto: Stamp Specialization v0.9

2023-12-31 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 11:13 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> Amend R2642, "Gathering Stones", to read in full: > >> > >> Grab Cost is an integer stone switch with default value 10, tracked > >> by the Stonemason. At the beginning of each week,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Maze protocol

2023-12-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 3:40 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/12/23 16:42, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > Similarly, creating and destroying a blot in the same message is a little > > "do nothing" thing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Maze protocol

2023-12-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 11:23 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/11/23 14:53, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > Comment: 1. is not restrictive, and permits flipping the activity switch > > for succeeding. > > Response: This is not the only

DIS: @collector @registrar

2023-12-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Hi Liz, and welcome! I grant Liz a welcome package. Don't spend your one stamp all in one place! (Joking!) You are now able to submit proposals, transfer your stamp, reach for stones, and push the boulder, among other things! Ask all the questions you like, we're s friendly bunch! On Sun, Dec

DIS: Art Critique of "Snapshots" by Snail

2023-12-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I want to preface this that feelings are real, and are complicated. Sometimes we know things without knowing them, which is why I agree so whole-heartedly with snail and so desperately want em to earn a degree with this thesis. That being said, there is a lot of feeling here in this thesis.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Degree Decision - "Snapshots" by snail

2023-12-05 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Ah, I misinterpreted the conversation, oops. I apologize, then, this is 100% on me; I was attempting to summarize the unofficial thoughts during the awarding attempt and I made an error. CoE accepted, but I don't know that I can really do much about it other than... this? lol :) On Tue, Dec 5,

DIS: Advent of Code

2023-12-01 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Agora has an unofficial Advent of Code, all are welcome to join nix: If you're not on it go to https://adventofcode.com/2023/leaderboard/private and use code 1035289-1f01749d -- 4ˢᵗ Uncertified Bad Idea Generator

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Anarchist] (@Promotor) Anarchy

2023-12-01 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 3:42 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/1/23 17:15, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > (See proposal 5794, submitted on October 14th, 2008) > > Uhm excuse me, but I am the anarchist, per R2486. > > -- > nix > > mmm, don't see

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9035-9039

2023-11-28 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 11:08 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/28/23 08:56, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-11-27 11:38]: > >> Consider a referendum on an AI 3 proposal A. Also consider a Rule X, > >>

Re: DIS: Proto: Stamp Specialization v0.9

2023-11-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 2:48 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Enact a new rule titled "Stamp Specialization": > > Stamp Specialization is a player switch with potential values "None" > (default), "Any", "Selfsame", "Stone", and "Strength", tracked by

Re: DIS: [Proto] Multiple Dreams

2023-11-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 7:00 AM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 6:28 AM Goren Barak via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> Title: Multiple Dreams >> Author: Goren Barak >> Adoption Index: 1 > > Also Adoption index needs to be at

Re: DIS: [Proto] Multiple Dreams

2023-11-22 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 6:28 AM Goren Barak via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Title: Multiple Dreams > Author: Goren Barak > Adoption Index: 1 > Coathors: > Co-authors (spelling), and also, rude not to include Murphy, snail, and I. (snail had/remembered the idea,

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I think it would be better to just explicitly list the options? I think informal agreements shouldn't be included as part of that list. "unless the provision merely requires em to abide by a contract, promise, or pledge to which e has consented." On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 1:04 PM Janet Cobb via

Re: DIS: (drafts) LIME RIBBON LIME RIBBON

2023-11-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:36 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/21/23 15:31, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > > { > > Title: Thanks Registrar! > > Adoption Index: 1.0 > > Author: > > Co-author: 4st &g

DIS: (drafts) LIME RIBBON LIME RIBBON

2023-11-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
(c'mon I worked hard to find all these! There's 5, and I only need 3 to pass to get a lil limey wimey!) { Title: Public Emergency Adoption Index: 3.1 Author: Co-author: 4st Amend Rule 2614 ("Eclipse Light") by replacing { An emergency message is one whose subject line contains the text

DIS: [draft] (specifically @ Herald) Maze

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
>From my recent in progress data analysis thesis, the y-intercept was about -0.64 awards. I hope that this little "tutorial" can help with that, and also help with "me new, what do" syndrome: { Herald Administrative Regulation MAZE A player CAN award emself the Patent Title "Rookie", if that

Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 8:50 AM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > * Democracy Gem (Assessor): As part of eir weekly duties, the Assessor > SHALL, and CAN by announcement, award 3 Change Gems to each player who > voted FOR on at least half the referenda that

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 3:43 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/20/23 12:04, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > A Rule that purports to designate an action as "unforceable" thereby > > designates that a player NEED NOT comply with any provision

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:05 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > To address some of the holes that befell Agoran't: > > { > > Add (somewhere? enact a new rule? at power 2 or 3?): > > { > > A Rule that purports to designate an action as "unforceable"

DIS: Re: [CFJ] (@arbitor) Re: BUS: Agoran't roles summary

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Any player CAN judge this CFJ without 3 objections, given that our Arbitor is missing. Also... given the complexity of Agorant, and this CFJ, a well reasoned and explained judgement would probably be deserving of at least a J.N. Degree. (at least... in my opinion). Just to incentivize people! On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Something completely obvious

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 3:02 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/20/23 16:17, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > Hi new players who haven't won yet! > > > > This probably won't work, but: > > > > I intend to, without objection, declare apathy,

Re: DIS: [proto] Unforceability

2023-11-20 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
IMO: add to this list "sending a public message" On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:05 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > To address some of the holes that befell Agoran't: > > { > > Add (somewhere? enact a new rule? at power 2 or 3?): > > { > > A Rule that

Re: DIS: Proto: A new economy

2023-11-19 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Fwiw I don't mind incentivizing change nor more blots. If what it takes to win becomes being a super goodie two shoes so be it On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 9:29 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/18/23 11:49, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > *

DIS: Re: (@Assessor, Stonemason) Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] State-sanctioned celebrations (for real)

2023-11-17 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I change my vote on that referendum to AGAINST. I vote AGAINST that referendum. On Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 3:39 AM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 22:02 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > [Oops we forgot to get Royal Assent last

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prime Minister] State-sanctioned celebrations (for real)

2023-11-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I vote FOR also. (Not sure why we're doing this but let's go for it!) On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 7:21 PM nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/16/23 21:10, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >>> On the above decision I vote FOR. > >>> > >> *sigh* > >> > >> On the

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9027-9030

2023-11-13 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
CoE: Rules as items v5 is the proposal with me as the author. That was to be withdrawn, and replaced with rules as items v6. On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 4:13 AM secretsnail9 via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Dear CoEs relevant to the Promotor: everything should be fixed as

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4051 Assigned to snail

2023-11-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I support all intents below. On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 9:27 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 11/13/23 00:26, nix via agora-business wrote: > > On 10/20/23 16:42, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > >> I self-file a motion to reconsider CFJ 4051, and

DIS: Re: (@Stonemason) BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 12 Nov 2023

2023-11-12 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I reach for the anti-equatorial stone. On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 11:28 AM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2023-11-12 at 14:21 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > > THE BILLBOARD ROCK CHART (STONEMASON'S WEEKLY REPORT) > > > > Stone

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9020-9026

2023-11-06 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I vote FOR on all Agoran (not agorant ) referenda. On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 7:42 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I vote as follows: > > 9020~ 4st, ...[1] 1.0 Free Black Ribbons > > AGAINST > > > > 9021~ 4st, ...[1] 1.0 Free

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