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On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 8:45 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > My understanding is that this is an intentional noncomformance on the part > of mailman. As far as I can recall, it's not a bug. They just decided to > ignore the standard. There are scripts that will transform it to

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On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:30 AM Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Sep 28, 2017, at 4:15 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > > If you're subscribed to the Agora lists (and I'm pretty sure you are), > > you should also be able to log in to the archive here: > >

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> On Oct 5, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:00 AM, Aris Merchant >> wrote: >> >> I love this idea. It seems very practical without sacrificing >> usability for the end users (i.e. the players). I have

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I believe we've had at least one 12-year old playing on the past, but I believe the honor goes to the President, which was a player from the first instant of its (rule-defined) existence. On Fri, Oct 6, 2017, 09:20 Gaelan Steele, wrote: > I just turned 16 about two weeks ago.

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I don’t think I ever accomplished much back then, but I was 13 at the time of my first registration. https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg27158.html Gaelan > On Oct 6, 2017, at 6:19 AM, Gaelan

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I just turned 16 about two weeks ago. I’ve registered in the past—we could find my past registration dates and do the math. Gaelan > On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:03 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I wonder who the youngest Agoran ever has

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I wonder who the youngest Agoran ever has been. Does anyone know? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Oct 6, 2017, at 3:46 AM, Quazie wrote: > > I played agora for the first time as a teenager - learned of nomic in high >

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I played agora for the first time as a teenager - learned of nomic in high school and played for the first time back around 2005 maybe? This was similar timing to my muffin centric blog nomic win On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 00:03 Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wow, I’m surprised. I assumed

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Wow, I’m surprised. I assumed I was pretty young among Agorans, but I guess not. Gaelan > On Oct 5, 2017, at 10:43 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I was hoping to avoid this, but: me too. (blushes) > > -Aris > > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Gaelan

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I was hoping to avoid this, but: me too. (blushes) -Aris On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Hey, I’m not the only one! > > Gaelan > > > On Sep 30, 2017, at 10:06 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > I'm just a random teenager. > > On Sunday, October

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On Sep 30, 2017, at 10:06 PM, VJ Rada > wrote: > I'm just a random teenager. On Oct 1, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Hey, I’m not the only one! For the record, you’re both well-spoken, diligent, intelligent, very

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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:00 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I love this idea. It seems very practical without sacrificing > usability for the end users (i.e. the players). I have a few > suggestions: > > 1. Who annotates. I think giving everyone access to the

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I have. It merits a more thorough response than I’ve been able to give it but with archiving up I can put thought towards it now. I’ll write more tomorrow. -o P.S.: https://twitter.com/derspiny/status/915838104304590848 > On Oct 5, 2017, at 2:21 AM, Aris Merchant >

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o, have you seen this? -Aris On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> This is the first stage of an attempt to create an annotation system >>> designed to formalize

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Hey, I’m not the only one! Gaelan > On Sep 30, 2017, at 10:06 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > I'm just a random teenager. > > On Sunday, October 1, 2017, Gaelan Steele > wrote: > Out of curiosity: is anybody around here *not* a

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On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Out of curiosity: is anybody around here *not* a programmer of some sort > these days? Only in my spare time. > Oh, and no language which thinks that `[1, 2] + [3, 4] == "1,23,4”` is > working fine. I will admit that

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I'm just a random teenager. On Sunday, October 1, 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Out of curiosity: is anybody around here *not* a programmer of some sort > these days? > > Oh, and no language which thinks that `[1, 2] + [3, 4] == "1,23,4”` is > working fine. > > Gaelan > > > On

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Out of curiosity: is anybody around here *not* a programmer of some sort these days? Oh, and no language which thinks that `[1, 2] + [3, 4] == "1,23,4”` is working fine. Gaelan > On Sep 30, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I've used it, and

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I've used it, and indeed use it for most of my scripting. JavaScript is a general purpose language, and it works fine for non-web usages. -Aris On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I have used Node.JS before and I

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I have used Node.JS before and I don't like it because it is using javascript for something it isn't supposed to be used for. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:29 PM, ATMunn . wrote: > > To be honest,

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To be honest, although Python is my favorite language, I really haven't tried many. The only other languages I really know are C# (which I don't really like anymore) and a bit of Lua and Javascript. I have several friends who really like Javascript, (specifically Node.JS) so that's one I have

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On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> This is the first stage of an attempt to create an annotation system >> designed to formalize game state changes by attaching formal descriptions of >> those changes to documents, represented by email messages. At this

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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 1:31 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > Fair enough. > > Side note: many claim the the Rulekeepor is a challenging office, but I’d > argue that in some ways it’s one of the easiest. The Secretary has to watch > pretty much every BUS message for a random

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Fair enough. Side note: many claim the the Rulekeepor is a challenging office, but I’d argue that in some ways it’s one of the easiest. The Secretary has to watch pretty much every BUS message for a random shiny spend; all I have to do is post an SLR when I see the Assessor message. Gaelan >

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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 1:18 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I’m kind of curious what the eventual goal here is. Are we trying to build > something with sufficient detail that the gamestate could be reconstructed? > If so, we’d need support for conditionals, which means the

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> On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > You have just reminded me of my (real world) thesis. What wasn't in Excel/VB > was > in Perl. *shudder*. The core parts of perldoc are still, in my view, the sine qua non of good developer documentation.

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I’m kind of curious what the eventual goal here is. Are we trying to build something with sufficient detail that the gamestate could be reconstructed? If so, we’d need support for conditionals, which means the “annotations” may need to support arbitrary code. Is it simply “find me all messages

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> On Sep 28, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > [sits in corner with my Ruby-powered ruleset] > > Gaelan I like Ruby. It and Go pay my rent, and they’re interesting languages. I just happen to like Python more for this specific use case. (I seriously considered

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> On Sep 28, 2017, at 5:52 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I would be happy to help you code or annotate, whoever word you are using, > each message. Thanks, I’ll probably take you up on that. It’s a daunting job. -o

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If I am elected, I would be happy to work with you on developing compatible systems. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 28, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I change my assessor vote to [Gaelan, PSS, G]. If I can’t do

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You have just reminded me of my (real world) thesis. What wasn't in Excel/VB was in Perl. *shudder*. On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > >not using excel sheet formulas like real pros > smh > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >

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>not using excel sheet formulas like real pros smh On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I’ll ty and get one out today. Also, why are there mail headers here? > > Something on your setting that puts full

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I was introduced to it for stats, but now use it for all sorts of things. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I’ll ty and get one out today. Also, why are there mail headers here? Something on your setting that puts full headers in reply? That's definitely not in the copy in my Sent folder. And thanks much for the ruleset!

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I love Ruby. R is my favorite, behind it is Ruby and Python and C and Java > behind them. Yay, another R lover! Rare outside of the straight stats community now that Python is taking over so much. I go R, C, Fortran (2003 or

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I love Ruby. R is my favorite, behind it is Ruby and Python and C and Java behind them. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 28, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > [sits in corner with my Ruby-powered ruleset] > >

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; X-UW-Orig-Sender: mail...@smtp.washington.edu > X-Auth-Received: from [161.55.112.117] by hymn01.u.washington.edu via HTTP; > Thu, 28 Sep 2017 11:01:00 PDT > Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 11:01:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > To: "Agora Nomic discus

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > [sits in corner with my Ruby-powered ruleset] > > Gaelan Hey Gaelan, Is there a chance you will get an SLR up in the next day or so before the end of the month? My reason is specific - I was foolish enough in the Fearmongor proposal to require

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[sits in corner with my Ruby-powered ruleset] Gaelan > On Sep 28, 2017, at 6:38 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > > Sounds interesting. I also see that you're using Python, my favorite > programming language. Nice. > >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Owen Jacobson

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Sounds interesting. I also see that you're using Python, my favorite programming language. Nice. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > This is the first stage of an attempt to create an annotation system > designed to formalize game state changes by

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I would be happy to help you code or annotate, whoever word you are using, each message. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:28 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> This is the first stage of an attempt to create an

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On Sep 28, 2017, at 4:15 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > If you're subscribed to the Agora lists (and I'm pretty sure you are), > you should also be able to log in to the archive here: > Would you

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> On Sep 28, 2017, at 4:15 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > I recommend doing that sort of bulk download rather than trying to > piece together archives from current players. (Older messages, > predating a-b, are another issue and one that may well take some >

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On Thu, 2017-09-28 at 03:05 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Hello, > > As part of a project to mechanize some of my reports (and, hopefully, > others eventually), I will begin archiving public messages to a > Heroku application in approximately 72 hours, unless someone objects > before that time.

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> This is the first stage of an attempt to create an annotation system designed > to formalize game state changes by attaching formal descriptions of those > changes to documents, represented by email messages. At this time, I plan > only to archive messages, but there will be a read element