On 04/08/2013 10:27 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
(Professor Quirrell had remarked over their lunch that Harry really
needed to conceal his state of mind better than putting on a blank
face when someone discussed a dangerous topic, and had explained about
one-level deceptions, two-level deceptions, and
On 04/08/2013 12:39 PM, omd wrote:
But to reiterate one last time, after which I will verily shut up and wait for
a judge to be assigned: Agora necessarily must proceed according to
consensus; we have a formal procedure to arrive at a consensus, which is
reasonably fair;
One more CoE: As we
On 6 August 2013 01:25, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
One more CoE: As we see, people appeal judgements out of spite, and I expect
they pass judgements out of spite as well. In fact, in a discussion some
time ago it was already mentioned that this was expected in dictatorship
cases. I think
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
One more CoE: As we see, people appeal judgements out of spite, and I expect
they pass judgements out of spite as well. In fact, in a discussion some
time ago it was already mentioned that this was expected in dictatorship
cases. I
On 03/08/2013 9:47 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote:
The main problem is that you have actively worked to prevent the controversy
from being settled, e.g. by attempting to judge the case yourself.
I've done nothing to prevent the controversy from being settled. You can
surrender anytime!
On 03/08/2013 8:32 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
Indeed, there is a proposal now to fix that issue (and, for some
reason, despite having first proposed fixing ratification, you've yet
to distribute the proposal).
Duuuhh okay 8*b
Translation for others:
a) It's a trap [1].
b) I'm pretty sure Sean
On Sunday, August 4, 2013, Fool wrote:
On 03/08/2013 9:47 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote:
The main problem is that you have actively worked to prevent the
controversy from being settled, e.g. by attempting to judge the case
yourself.
I've done nothing to prevent the controversy from being
On Sunday, August 4, 2013, Fool wrote:
c) Sean, omd, et al. should've known that I'd know it. Come on guys, you
can do better than that! :)
Don't look at me. I don't consider the dictatorship interpretation viable
enough to try to counter-scam (which would've been easy by getting someone
to
On Sun, 4 Aug 2013, omd wrote:
affect by loudly repeating your claims in the form of reports and proposals
and whatnot; and this I consider unfair and
disruptive, and so is my biggest objection to the whole thing.
To be fair, I think the current culture of self-ratification (broken or not)
This danger doesn't even sound plausible to me. Everyone's confused and goes
home, and never comes back? I doubt it.
I won't have a keyboard for a few hours but in short,
Do you have a plan to return your version of Agora to normalcy reasonably soon?
If so, that would be reassuring, modulo
On 04/08/2013 12:45 PM, omd wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2013, Fool wrote:
c) Sean, omd, et al. should've known that I'd know it. Come on guys,
you can do better than that! :)
Don't look at me. I don't consider the dictatorship interpretation
viable enough to try to counter-scam
On 04/08/2013 4:05 PM, com...@gmail.com wrote:
This danger doesn't even sound plausible to me. Everyone's confused and goes
home, and never comes back? I doubt it.
I won't have a keyboard for a few hours but in short,
Do you have a plan to return your version of Agora to normalcy
reasonably
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
reasonably soon? If so, that would be reassuring, modulo other concerns;
my main issue here is that unlike any other dictator I can remember, you
have attempted to break the game without describing any such plan.
It means let the
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
No, the original action itself already included two clauses, I can
dergeister everyone and no other person can register. So if the original
action succeeded at all, then the counter-scam you describe here wouldn't
have worked.
On 04/08/2013 10:19 PM, omd wrote:
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Foolfool1...@gmail.com wrote:
No, the original action itself already included two clauses, I can
dergeister everyone and no other person can register. So if the original
action succeeded at all, then the counter-scam you
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, that's a bit more plausible. But then it means Sean's messages trying
to get me to pass it was still an intentional trap, unless he wasn't in on
this discussion. I think he's on IRC a fair bit though.
(Just because I'm
As the purported only player of Agora, presumably it is incumbent on
YOU to fix things.
Yes, that's fair.
If you're asking for our help, let us play the game again.
Let you re-register before closing the hole? I think not. :)
Well, if you want me to do it without your input, that's fine.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, that's a bit more plausible. But then it means Sean's messages trying
to get me to pass it was still an intentional trap, unless he wasn't in on
this discussion. I think he's on IRC a fair bit though.
(Just because I'm
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
For example, do we think Proposal 7564 is sufficient to plug the hole?
Because I'm not getting what it's supposed to do.
Well, since Machiavelli voted against it and OscarMeyr mass voted
against, I think it's failing - perhaps I
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, omd wrote:
the
lecturer taking the status quo too seriously, and I have received at
least one such lecture in the recent past.
sorry
On Saturday, August 3, 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
sorry
I was referring to the BlogNomic invasion actually :)
On 02/08/2013 9:42 PM, Max Schutz wrote:
I appeal my own case on the grounds that I HAVE NO FREAKING IDEA WHAT'S
GOING ON despite me being an elder
What's going on is that it turns out NOBODY HAS ANY FREAKING IDEA WHAT'S
BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. You thought you had a ratification system
On 02/08/2013 10:06 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
On Fri, 2013-08-02 at 21:54 -0400, Max Schutz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Elliott Hirdpenguinoftheg...@googlemail.com
wrote:
On 3 August 2013 02:32, Alex Smithais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgement
On 03/08/2013 1:42 PM, omd wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
sorry
I was referring to the BlogNomic invasion actually :)
Wow, this is funny. Maybe I should have given you the recruitment reward
after all!
On 02/08/2013 11:49 PM, omd wrote:
Although it appears to be more difficult than we had previously
assumed to formalize the logic of the rules, there are several
possibilities that have been posited in the last few days - some do
not work, but some do.
I must have missed it then
On 4 August 2013 00:22, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
This danger doesn't even sound plausible to me. Everyone's confused and goes
home, and never comes back? I doubt it.
More likely is that everyone gets sick of you acquiring and
maintaining your dictatorship in ways that go quite strongly
alright through what rule/protocol did fool claim the game
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 4 August 2013 00:22, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
This danger doesn't even sound plausible to me. Everyone's confused and
goes
home, and
On 03/08/2013 7:34 PM, Elliott Hird wrote:
On 4 August 2013 00:22, Foolfool1...@gmail.com wrote:
This danger doesn't even sound plausible to me. Everyone's confused and goes
home, and never comes back? I doubt it.
More likely is that everyone gets sick of you acquiring and
maintaining your
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:03 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote:
You can purportedly keep your dictatorship without purportedly preventing the
normal play of Agora from continuing.
- woggle
Or you can sit around and let us not do anything in -game, letting the
rest of us reconstruct elements
On 03/08/2013 8:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:03 PM, wogglewoggl...@gmail.com wrote:
You can purportedly keep your dictatorship without purportedly preventing the
normal play of Agora from continuing.
- woggle
Or you can sit around and let us not do anything in -game,
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly, I tend to agree with Sean. I'm not sure there is even a normal play
of Agora at this point, independent of my scam.
Oh, I didn't mean I want you to do that, inasmuch as it give us a
better chance of actually defeating your
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Fool wrote:
On 03/08/2013 7:34 PM, Elliott Hird wrote:
On 4 August 2013 00:22, Foolfool1...@gmail.com wrote:
This danger doesn't even sound plausible to me. Everyone's confused and
goes
home, and never comes back? I doubt it.
More likely is that everyone
On 03/08/2013 8:17 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Foolfool1...@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly, I tend to agree with Sean. I'm not sure there is even a normal play
of Agora at this point, independent of my scam.
Oh, I didn't mean I want you to do that, inasmuch as it give us a
On 03/08/2013 8:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
For a scam a couple years back where I deregistered everyone, I did so,
fixed the problem, gave myself and helpers patent titles, and rebooted
back to where we were in a couple messages. If it had been judged
a failure, the only thing that would have to
On Aug 3, 2013 8:28 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/08/2013 8:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
For a scam a couple years back where I deregistered everyone, I did so,
fixed the problem, gave myself and helpers patent titles, and rebooted
back to where we were in a couple messages. If it
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Fool wrote:
I see. I wonder if they came back. When was this, incidentally?
Had to check. Proposal 6959 resolved jan 31, 2011 ( looks like
I lied, it started a few days earlier as it needed a minimal voting
period to resolve).
Incidentally to a parallel discussion here,
The main problem is that you have actively worked to prevent the controversy
from being settled, e.g. by attempting to judge the case yourself.
Sent from my iPhone
I even asked about this. Alex Smith suggested that I had until the
controversy was settled to dispose of my dictatorship. Is
I appeal my own case on the grounds that I HAVE NO FREAKING IDEA WHAT'S
GOING ON despite me being an elder
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2013-08-02 at 21:25 -0400, Fool wrote:
HER FELINE MAJESTY DAVY I
versus
ais523, arkestra, ehird,
On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 02:43 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
On 3 August 2013 02:32, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgement using the mechanism
in rule 911.
I support.
(For anyone who hasn't noticed yet: this is useful in the (quite
plausible)
if this gets my name off that list of guilty then i support it too this is
insane
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 3 August 2013 02:32, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgement using the
On Fri, 2013-08-02 at 21:54 -0400, Max Schutz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 3 August 2013 02:32, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgement using the mechanism
in rule 911.
I
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
(a) provide an alternate consistent explanation that blocks the
Action and show that (b) it also fits the other logical questions that arise
in Agora and (c) it actually does follow from the rules (including R217 of
course)
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